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Marlins Do Not Intend To Trade Sandy Alcantara In Offseason

By Anthony Franco | August 14, 2024 at 5:54pm CDT

The Marlins have informed Sandy Alcantara that they will not trade him during the upcoming offseason, reports Craig Mish of SportsGrid (X link). Mish writes that the Fish are hopeful that the 2022 NL Cy Young winner will be ready to take the ball for them on Opening Day.

Alcantara missed this entire season after undergoing Tommy John surgery in October. That was the first major blow in what has turned out to be a very difficult 12 months at loanDepot Park. Eury Pérez went down with a Tommy John procedure of his own a week into the ’24 season. The Marlins got 12 inconsistent starts out of Jesús Luzardo; his season is over due to a stress reaction in his back. A finger injury has interrupted what might have been a step forward from Ryan Weathers. Lefty Braxton Garrett is currently down with a flexor strain and has made all of seven starts. Edward Cabrera lost a couple months in the first half.

A rotation with a fully healthy Alcantara, Luzardo, Pérez, Garrett and Weathers would probably be a top 10 group in MLB. The Marlins have instead lost them all for significant chunks of the season. Between that brutal stretch of starting pitching injuries and one of the worst lineups in the majors, the Marlins have had a nightmare of a year. They started 0-9, never got back to .500, and are fully amidst a rebuild. Miami shipped out Jazz Chisholm Jr., Luis Arraez, Josh Bell, Trevor Rogers, Tanner Scott, Bryan De La Cruz and a few others as part of a roster overhaul. First-year president of baseball operations Peter Bendix has begun to reshape the front office, and it’s widely believed that manager Skip Schumaker and the organization could part ways at season’s end.

That upheaval means there aren’t many players whom the Marlins would probably steadfastly refuse to discuss in trade talks. That said, it never seemed especially likely they’d deal Alcantara next winter. He’s rehabbing a major arm procedure that at least clouds his trade value. While there’d surely still be interest if the Marlins shopped him, other teams would presumably want to price in some kind of discount in case Alcantara doesn’t regain his pre-surgery form.

There’s little reason for the Marlins to entertain diminished trade offers. Miami signed Alcantara to a $56MM extension the year before his Cy Young campaign. He’s under contract for another two seasons and the team holds an option for 2027. Alcantara is making $9MM this year. His salaries will jump to $17MM annually for the next two seasons; the option is valued at $21MM and comes with a $2MM buyout. (He’d also receive a $1MM assignment bonus if the Marlins trade him at any point.) From here forward, it’s a two-year, $36MM guarantee that comes with a third-year club option.

Despite the surgery, that’s good value for a pitcher of Alcantara’s caliber. Bounceback starters like Frankie Montas, Jack Flaherty and Luis Severino signed for between $13MM and $16MM in free agency last offseason. They all inked one-year deals, but that allowed them all to retest free agency in search of a much bigger contract if they returned to form. Alcantara is coming from a higher baseline than that trio of pitchers. If he looks anything like his old self, the final guaranteed season and the club option would be well below market value.

It’s a relatively costly commitment by Miami’s standards, but the Marlins have little else on the books next year. They owe the already released Avisaíl García $17MM between his $12MM salary and a $5MM buyout on his 2026 option. They’re responsible for $10MM annually to the Yankees between 2026-28 on the Giancarlo Stanton contract. Minor league reliever Woo-Suk Go, who is owed $2.75MM next season between his salary and a ’26 option buyout, is the only other player on a guaranteed deal beyond this season.

Luzardo, Jesús Sánchez and Garrett headline what’ll be a relatively light arbitration class. The Fish aren’t likely to do much in free agency after spending all of $5MM last winter on a one-year deal for Tim Anderson. Even with Alcantara’s salary rising by $8MM, they could open next season with a lower player payroll than their approximate $92MM mark this year (calculated by Cot’s Baseball Contracts).

If Alcantara performs well in the first half, he could be one of the most in-demand players at next summer’s deadline. Even if all their starters come back healthy, Miami will be hard-pressed to compete barring a major lineup overhaul. The Marlins still may not want to move Alcanatara with the amount of time remaining on his deal, but that’d be a more interesting question for the front office than it would to sell low on him over the offseason.

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  1. Rudy Zolteck

    10 months ago

    Well, yeah. Why on earth would they sell at the bottom of his value?

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    • Blackpink in the area

      10 months ago

      You never know what the bottom of his value is until after the fact.

      I think waiting until he proves he’s healthy and the pitcher he used to be makes a lot of sense. But there is risk in that.

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    • Goku the Knowledgable One

      10 months ago

      They’d technically be selling high.

      Even with the missed time, I think his trade value is still top of the market

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      • Blackpink in the area

        10 months ago

        If he comes back healthy and like he pitched before his value would go up no doubt. But if he doesn’t then his value goes down from where it is now. It’s a risk but theoretically he should bounce back.

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        • Goku the Knowledgable One

          10 months ago

          I think they could trade him for a top package without even throwing another pitch

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    • drasco036

      10 months ago

      “We are not trading Juan Soto”

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    • Pads Fans

      10 months ago

      Rudy, you are exactly right and I came here to say basically the same thing.

      Coming off a TJ, until he actually shows he can pitch he has next to no trade value. They are HOPING he will be ready by opening day, but as we have seen with TJ surgery recovery that is no guarantee.

      Now at or before the 2025 trade deadline, after he has come back and pitched a dozen games or so, he is definitely gone.

      He will make $17.3 million in 2025 and 2026 with a $2 million buyout on a $21 million team option for 2027 and the Marlins are not going to pay him $36.6 million to be on a team that even Bendix knows has no shot at contending while Alcantara is under contract.

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  2. User 4245925809

    10 months ago

    Should have taken that same stance with Gallen. Fish fleeced the Cards in the Ozuna deal, grabbing Alcantra + Gallen, then themselves got fleeced giving away gallen for that problem Chisholm.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      10 months ago

      Chisholm still was the face of the franchise for a few years and made it on the cover of the show and got a nice return from the Yankees

      But they would have been better if they had gallen for last years playoffs…

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      • Big Smoke

        10 months ago

        They still would’ve been swept by Philly, so no

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  3. Rishi

    10 months ago

    Duh

    Reply
  4. Blackpink in the area

    10 months ago

    I imagine Luzardo gets dealt sometime between spring training and the trade deadline next year. He has 2 years of control left Alcantara has 3 so he goes first then they deal Alcantara sometime after. I really like what the Marlins did trading away so many guys. The future looks bright.

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  5. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    10 months ago

    Alcantara was one of my favorite pitchers before he went down, always pitching into the 7th inning and making complete games look routine

    I doubt the marlins will let him go to 200 innings again

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    • rct

      10 months ago

      You’re probably right but partially because I think they will trade him next season, either at the deadline or after the season.

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  6. GONEcarlo

    10 months ago

    Would love to see him finish his career in Miami, but not sure that any player’s ever gonna be able to do that

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    • laynestaley2002

      10 months ago

      Jose Fernandez finished his career in Miami. Too soon?

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      • letitbelowenstein

        10 months ago

        Thing is, Fernandez would, in all likelihood, been dealt as he neared free agency. And I find it hard to believe he’d be 32 now.

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        • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

          10 months ago

          He’s still be relatively young right now, god knows what his career stats would look like right now

          R.I.P. would’ve been HOFer

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      • Bauer Poutage

        10 months ago

        @layne. I thought it was okay to joke about his death the moment the news came out he was twice the legal limit, high on cocaine, and would have been liable for involuntary manslaughter and vessel homicide if he survived.

        Like when Lenny Dykstra dies jokes are okay before the casket even drops.

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  7. ArianaGrandSlam

    10 months ago

    Too bad he does want to get traded.

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    • Big Smoke

      10 months ago

      Source: trust me bro

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  8. YankeesBleacherCreature

    10 months ago

    So there is a chance that the Dodgers trade for him and give him a five-year extension?

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      10 months ago

      Nah because they already are going to sign Burnes and Snell this offseson. With I would say a couple of deferrals for good measure.

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  9. Rsox

    10 months ago

    No reason to sell low on a former Cy Young Award winner with a very team friendly three years of control over the winter. Next July though is a whole ‘nother story

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  10. This one belongs to the Reds

    10 months ago

    They shouldn’t deal him either.

    What is it that the Marlins think they have to keep clearing the deck? You’re in Miami, for crying out loud. LeBron took his talents there, you know.

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  11. 3768902

    10 months ago

    Sources say that they haven’t ruled out accidentally trading him, however.

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  12. seth3120

    10 months ago

    I’ve hated them ever since they decided to hire a president of baseball operations when they had a gm who built a consistent winner with a shoestring budget. They can’t do anything right. You build a stadium it usually creates a buzz and you get some fringe fans who buy tickets for the new amenities for awhile. Whoever signed off on the plans for that stadium had to be on some type of hallucinogenic when they did. I remember seeing that stadium for the first time and even the commentators were cracking jokes. Terribly run organization

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  13. BannedMarlinsFanBase

    10 months ago

    Gosh darn it! And I was so looking forward to trading Sandy for the bargain trade returns that certain posters were wishing for on here.

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    • Pads Fans

      10 months ago

      Don’t worry. You will get your wish. You will just have to wait until he can actually pitch so they can trade him. Marlins are not spending $36 million on him in 2025-2026 just to lose and they have no chance of winning. He is gone as soon as other teams are sure he can throw a baseball and get people out.

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  14. BetterMuppet:JUDGEorKERMIT?

    10 months ago

    Does anyone else feel like if the Marlins say they won’t trade him in the off season then they are definitely going to trade him in the off season.

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