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Between Thorpe’s surgical bone spur removal of the elbow …
And Kershaw’s Sesamoiditis of his 1st metatarsal (I’m guessing that that’s what he has) ….
Then MLBTR is well on it’s way to building it’s own Franken-Baseball-Stein-player with all these spare human parts floating around.
Hey, nothing says we can’t have fun with all this ~
Spurgical
The curse of AJ Preller!
A.J Prellar works for the Padres and seemingly did well for them on this one. I’ve ripped him a lot, but he’s very possibly the most prolific trader of my lifetime.
In quantity or success? Because if we’re talking sheer numbers, Dipoto has something like 140 trades in the past 9 years.
“Quantity or success”..A bit of both. I give some credit for quantity but wouldn’t be giving A.J kudos if his trades were mostly bad. When there’s high level players involved, A.J seemingly will always be in play. Where A.J really trumps Dipoto is that he’s always in on the big names. Jerry Dipoto not so much.
Preller traded a bunch of blue-chip prospects for Soto, who didn’t seem to fit quite right in San Diego, and turned Soto into Michael King and Dylan Cease. That’s a heck of a job.
Sucks to hear about Thorpe as a former-Yankee farmhand. I tend to root for guys the Yankees drafted, even though 90% of them are over-hyped to the moon.
King and Cease are the lede. But don’t sleep on Higashioka, Vasquez and Brito.
Higgy has flat out grabbed the number 1 catcher spot and has the Padres getting top 10 power output out of the position. Preller has struck gold in catchers for the third year in a row (Jorge Alfaro, Gary Sanchez, Kyle Higashioka).
Randy Vasquez has shown flashes of brilliance on the mound, and Johnny Brito will also be in the mix as depth for years. Or he is another trade chip.
Preller unwound the Soto deal about as successfully as he possibly could.
Oh good another bust. Thanks Reinsdork
Everyone is saying there’s something wrong with all the pitching injuries and have been saying so for a long time. Manfred does plenty wrong but blaming him for this is just plain stupid.
Especially since the games used to be at this speed in the 80’s and before.
Baseball has always been a “slow” sport because guys were trained to perform in quick spurts of energy. Pitchers were not trained to throw 105 mph every pitch and maximum rotation and velocity on every breaking ball. Then to give them 15 seconds between pitches is madness. Anyone that has ever played the game in the past would not play in this environment now. There’s no regard given for players’ longevity, just squeeze what you can out of them and manipulate the amount of years you keep them on your team under cheap contracts. Then when they’ve totally destroyed them physically, put them on the market and give them $30-$40mil a year to sit on the IL and live off what they did leading up to that huge contract. Anywhere else it would be unsafe and unethical working conditions but since they have the chance at several hundred million if they say the right thing and do as they’re told. Sad state of what used to be a good sport.
Simm. Imagine still videos of entire games from 60’s-80’s on like youtube an elsewhere the internet. Slowing the game came mostly from foot dragging players, having to constantly step out of the box every pitch, adjust gloves, helmet etc and pitchers who had probably no confidence in themselves on the mound and dawdled more whenever any baserunner was on. That is when delays started and can blame umpires for not kicking players in the rear early on and allowing all the delays and 4hr 9 inning games.
Of course nobody complains about the useles theatrics or “celebrations, AKA hotdogging many go into after hitting a HR, driving in runs and celebrate towards anyone looking.
funny part to me, is anything close to these aantics, even 30-40y ago and next AB? That celebrator is going down hard, if not actually hit while at the plate and no more diving over the plate before the pitch arrives either.. Big no-no.
Things have changed a lot, more than the length.
Nomar is probably a top 3 on the batter spectrum. It wasn’t even so much a delay tatic and just a habit by then.
In the meantime, the guy traded for him had a no hitter this season.
Meh, no hitter but would routinely fail to get thru 6.
Dumpster – getting thru 6 isn’t a big deal for a long time in MLB. Check out how many of the 100’s of starters don’t.
He averages 5.6 (2024 IP divided by games – and one of those was a 1 inning rain delay not his fault) so rather close and considering how many other stats have him in top 10 or higher, he is far from meh. Currently on top 10 for Cy Young. Considering this is 2nd year out of 3 in CY consideration.
Meh is not the word to describe DC.
He is brilliant, just not an ace. Decent return for Soto in the long term one supposes but what did the Pods give up originally?
Dumpster, the first trade was not the conversation which was your calling CD “meh”.
That word describes Gore, Abrams (plenty of time to improve though.
If you are going there, don’t forget that SD also received Josh Bell who at the time of the trade, was one of the leagues best hitters – which one of the prospects were for Bell?
Not like there is a guarantee Thorpe is going to go out there and throw 7 innings+ every start in his career. Cease is also the leader in the NL in strikeouts, right in front of Chris Sale ,who the Sox got nothing for and, yeah, many questioned that trade as well as ‘Yawn’ Moncada was a consolation prize as the Sox wanted Devers, and in his time with the Sox he only showed other players how to milk the White Sox for his check while spending most of the time on the IL. Also got Kopech who I think still could be an effective starter somewhere else, but was not going to be with the group of clowns currently mismanaging the White Sox (both in the dugout and in the front office).
Thorpe is likely a #2 in a rotation, but not seeing him as a replacement for a guy like Cease (even with Cease’s shortcomings) To be fair, Thorpe was probably was brought up too soon by a GM feeling like he has to prove something instead of being a good GM.
Sox bringing up another guy that’s going to miss AAA, do you see a pattern. Hell get hurt an Padres will have gotten Cease for free
You must be fun at parties
You know who else had bone spurs? Orange guy who otherwise might have averted a life of crime as flim flam man if he had gone overseas as an action hero
Partisan hack spotted ^
Just sayin’
Just think how much better off the planet would be if Carrottop had passed his fitness regime and had gone on to a life of valor as an airborne ranger.
Yeah.It would be better if we had more war mongers in Congress
LOL! You guys are deranged. I enjoy a good political debate, but I don’t generally try to steer a BB conversation to a political debate.
Huge blow to the White Sox chances.
As hard as this may be to fathom, SOX could have the game’s best young staff by this time next year if they keep Crochet and follow him with Schultz & Hagen Smith in the rotation. Iriarte, Adams, Taylor, Nastrini, Thorpe, and others to battle for two RH starting spots. The two young arm returns from the Grossman & DeJong have been fantastic & figure to anchor the future bullpen along with converted starters like Palette, Burke, etc. Another year of veteran position players to deal for young arms could yield a very deep bullpen, solving the pitching side of things.
However, no clue how they’ll fix the offensive, defensive and culture problems as quickly.
“As hard as this may be to fathom, SOX could have the game’s best young staff by this time next year”
“Could have”…Or have a rotation that gets hammered and the Sox lose 100 games for the 3rd straight year.
You got one thing right: It is hard to believe.
Jairo Iriarte another pitcher brought up by White Sox before he’s ready.