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Phillies Had Reached Out To David Robertson Before Alvarado Suspension

By Anthony Franco | May 19, 2025 at 11:11pm CDT

The Phillies bullpen took a huge hit over the weekend, as José Alvarado was hit with an 80-game suspension after a failed performance-enhancing drug test. Players suspended for PEDs are barred from participating in the postseason that year. Alvarado should return to the Phils bullpen in early August, but he will not be a factor in October.

Relief pitching stood out as a clear target for the Phils even before they lost their closer. To that end, Mark Feinsand of MLB.com reports that Philadelphia reached out to free agent reliever David Robertson prior to the announcement about Alvarado’s suspension. Robertson remains unsigned, of course, and Feinsand writes that initial talks with Philadelphia never seriously developed.

Perhaps the Phillies will look to reengage with the All-Star righty now that circumstances have changed. Robertson, who turned 40 in April, has not provided any indication that he’s retiring. At the same time, he clearly wasn’t motivated to take what he considered below-market money to sign. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale wrote last month that Robertson had sought a $10MM contract during the offseason. That’s not an outlandish number for one season of a high-end setup man.

Robertson pitched for Philly in 2019 and ’22, combining for a 3.30 ERA over those separate stints. He remained a key high-leverage arm with the Rangers last year. He reeled off a career-high 72 innings with an even 3.00 earned run average. Robertson punched out more than a third of opponents while averaging 93.3 MPH on the cutter that has long served as his primary offering. While there’s always a risk that a player’s production will drop off sharply in his late 30s or early 40s, Robertson didn’t show any obvious signs of decline a year ago.

That makes it fairly surprising that he wasn’t able to find a deal to his liking early in the offseason. It’s far more difficult to see him commanding a significant salary on a midseason contract, as teams tend to be up against their imposed budgets (at least until closer to the trade deadline). Alvarado is not paid during his suspension, so he’ll lose nearly $4MM of his $9MM salary. That could theoretically open spending room for the Phils, but Alvarado will return to the payroll for the final two months of the season and it’s unclear whether Robertson is willing to budge at all on his asking price.

The trade deadline is a little more than two months off. The Phils made one of the biggest reliever moves at last summer’s deadline, acquiring rental closer Carlos Estévez from the Angels for a pair of pitching prospects. They might be similarly aggressive this July. They’ll have a tough time pulling off a significant trade within the next few weeks, though.

The Cardinals have long been expected to move Ryan Helsley this summer, but they’ve been one of the best teams in the league over the past month and are within a game of the NL Central lead. The Nationals will probably deal Kyle Finnegan at some point, though it seems unlikely that’ll happen two months into the season. The reeling Orioles have a couple arms (e.g. Félix Bautista, Keegan Akin) who’d generate interest if they’re willing to listen on players who are controllable beyond this year. Feinsand highlights a few speculative trade candidates on the handful of truly rebuilding teams, but those clubs (Rockies, White Sox, Marlins, Pirates) rank near the bottom of the league in bullpen effectiveness.

For now, Jordan Romano is expected to return to the closing role in Philadelphia. The offseason signee has kept opponents off the board in each of his past eight outings. He hasn’t allowed a hit in any of four most recent appearances. Romano’s season numbers are weighed down by a horrendous start, but he’s been dominant since the calendar turned to May. Matt Strahm is an excellent setup option from the left side. They’re light on right-handed options to bridge the gap to Romano, as Orion Kerkering remains inconsistent because of scattershot command.

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  1. DarkSide830

    3 hours ago

    What is bro even looking for at this point.

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    • 16

      3 hours ago

      Hopefully the Porter Hodge injury for Jed to pay up and get David back in Chicago.

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      3 hours ago

      I’d take $4m to pitch half a year. Still not too far off his ask. Of course now the Phillies need a reliever so he should make them pay a premium. $8m would be my starting ask from his perspective.

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      • Tmandolfan

        3 hours ago

        And the appropriate response from the Phillies in that scenario would be to tell him to get effed. He sure didn’t give any money back when he got hurt 7 games in during his first go round in 2019.

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    • mlb fan

      2 hours ago

      “Even looking for”…A desperate team. And it looks like he may have found it, in the Phillies.

      Reply
  2. Captainmike1

    3 hours ago

    A performance based contract might have been a good compromise between Robertson and teams hesitant to pay his demands during the offseason

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      3 hours ago

      If he wasn’t signed I would guess he wasn’t interested. Which is fairly unreasonable. Pretty cool that he represents himself.

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  3. bucsfan0004

    3 hours ago

    He’s a 40yr old, one-inning reliever who doesnt close and was asking for $10M?!? Every team, including the Phils, should pass on him based on the fact he’s a delusional idiot.

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    • Blah blah blah

      2 hours ago

      he was a closer in 22 and 23

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    • mlb fan

      2 hours ago

      “He’s a 40yr old…asking for $10M”..David Robertson has always known how to get guys out. That’s always been fairly important throughout the history of MLB.

      I would pay him his asking price (prorated) and ask all my other relievers to often observe the Robertson process of getting guys out. Where else is Philly going find a viable high leverage reliever on short notice?

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  4. amk1920

    3 hours ago

    Dodgers and Phillies desperately need an arm. It’s his time

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  5. Captain Dunsel

    3 hours ago

    Suarez to the pen makes the most sense. He has succeeded there before, especially in October. Recall Abel when eligible and let Walker take long relief when Nola returns. If Suarez complains about the effect on his next contract, offer to refrain from giving him a QO in return. Flags fly forever.

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    • cpdpoet

      2 mins ago

      Take the day off goodsir.
      Your post should be pinned at the top.

      Reply
  6. MrPeanutHead

    3 hours ago

    6-7 with escalators should get the job done, if he looks good in workouts and physicals. If Philly is offering something close to that and he’s not biting he might not want to go there or maybe he’s closer to hanging it up? Either way they need to get something done. They are a good team and need to strike now while the Mets are floundering.

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    • Rishi

      2 hours ago

      Why is everyone saying $10M is so unreasonable? He has been worth it for 3 straight years. Relievers are underpaid because teams don’t like to take the risk. He doesn’t have to pitch if he doesn’t want to. But he knows someone will come calling and he will stay fresh (which could also hurt him but I doubt it considering he’s a reliever, 40 years old, and an all time great honestly). Jansen and Kimbrel were routinely getting these contracts and weren’t nearly as consistent. Yes, he’s 40. I don’t look at age the same for historically good players.

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      • yeasties

        1 hour ago

        Old players are good, until they aren’t. If he’s like Jesse Orosco and pitch effectively into his 40’s, that is fantastic for him. But from bbref, Jesse was already signing free agent contracts with large performance incentives by his mid 30’s. A guaranteed $10M just seems crazy for a 40 year old pitcher. (Scherzer, Morton, Verlander cough cough)

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        • Rishi

          48 mins ago

          Yes. You take a risk. Teams have likely been thinking that for the last several seasons and he’s panned out each time. The number 40 is not magical. Your own example proves this. Verlander had a very good year at age 40 and Morton was a very serviceable pitcher who threw 160 innings. Hard to compare him to Scherzer when Max was injured almost his entire age 39 season (last year). And you would think that a reliever would have a better shot at this. We only have a handful of examples to go on because guys aren’t usually healthy and effective this long and the way relievers are used today only goes back fairly recently. I’m not comparing him to these pitchers but look at Rivera and Hoffman putting up sub-2 era in their 40s. Surely Wagner could have pitched again at age 39 after a 1.4 era season. Modern relief pitching has only produced a handful of examples to base anything on. Most relievers are done way before 40. But he isn’t. So we can’t really compare him to many people

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  7. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    2 hours ago

    1.7 WAR pitcher who only pitches 1 inning a game and doesn’t pitch every game is a very valuable pitcher per outing and a lot of high leverage pitchers with consistent track records get $10M+ on one year deals at this point in their career.

    I don’t think Robertson was wrong to ask for $10M, but I wonder if he sat it out because he wasn’t getting offers anywhere *close* to $10M- I am sure if he was angling for $10M and wound up with $6M or more, he’d have made that deal- but I get the sense that he wasn’t getting more than $1-2M offers, which, at this point in his career with over $100M in career earnings pre-taxes/agent fees (though I know he is now self-represented and has been for a few years) it isn’t worth the slog of a full season of ramping up with work outs, training, the travel, etc.

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  8. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    2 hours ago

    I’d call the Rockies about Scott halverson that kid is under the radar and horribly mismanaged by Colorado

    Alas, the Rockies never trade their guys they just let them rot

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      2 hours ago

      Whoops meant Seth

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    • St.Philly

      1 hour ago

      Well, the Phillies should have driven his trade value down tonight.

      Reply

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