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Rafael Devers To Start Work At First Base With Giants

By Darragh McDonald | June 17, 2025 at 11:50pm CDT

The Giants held a press conference today to introduce Rafael Devers and one key question about his future in San Francisco was answered. The Giants plan to have him serve as the designated hitter but also as a first baseman going forward. He’ll start taking grounders in preparation for the position change in the next few days. Alex Pavlovic of NBC Sports Bay Area was among those to relay the news.

“They’re the men in charge,” Devers said today, per Chris Cotillo of MassLive. “I’m here to play wherever they want me to play.”

It’s obviously a notable shift from where things stood with the Red Sox. Devers had been almost exclusively a third baseman coming into this year, though he has been considered a poor defender. Over the winter, the Sox were connected in rumors to third basemen like Nolan Arenado and Alex Bregman. Members of the Red Sox such as chief baseball officer Craig Breslow and manager Álex Cora downplayed the possibility of Devers being moved off the hot corner.

The Sox eventually signed Bregman, but even in the initial wake of that deal, the club didn’t firmly declare that Devers was done as a third baseman. “He’s a Gold Glove third baseman,” Cora said of Bregman in February. “He hasn’t played second base in the big leagues. I do believe he can be a Gold Glove second baseman, too.”

A few days later, Devers spoke to the media and was adamant about not moving. “It’s my decision,” he said at the time. “My position is third base. Whatever it is they want to do is what they want to do. But my position is third base.” He had apparently been promised he could be a long-term third baseman when signing his ten-year extension in 2023, though Cora dismissed that promise. “That was under Chaim,” Cora said, referring to previous CBO Chaim Bloom. The Sox fired Bloom late in 2023 and later hired Breslow to replace him.

As spring training went on, it became clear that the Sox intended to have Bregman at third, with Devers moved to a DH role. While Devers was clearly frustrated and reportedly considered asking for a trade, he eventually relented and accepted his fate. Whatever emotions he was feeling were not impacting his performance, as Devers has hit .272/.401/.504 for a 148 wRC+ this year.

The situation with the Red Sox grew even more complicated in early May when first baseman Triston Casas suffered a season-ending knee injury. Devers taking up that spot seemed like a logical next step, as many subpar third basemen have successfully moved across the diamond over the years. Doing so also would have helped the Sox with positional logjams elsewhere. Outfield prospect Roman Anthony has been blocked in Triple-A for most of the season but an open DH spot would have helped the club find more playing time for him and others.

The Sox did indeed ask Devers to consider a move to first base, but Devers refused and also seemed offended that he was even asked. “They talked to me and basically told me to put away my glove, that I wasn’t going to play any other position but DH,” Devers said of the conversation during spring training. “So right now, I just feel like it’s not an appropriate decision by them to ask me to play another position.” He went on to seemingly take a shot at the club’s brass in the process: “Now I think they should do their job essentially and hit the market and look for another player (to play first base). I’m not sure why they want me to be in between the way they have me now.”

The Sox went on to try other options at first, including utility players like Romy González and Abraham Toro. Rookie Kristian Campbell also started some pre-game work at first, though he has yet to appear there in actual game action.

All of this drama seemed to lead to this weekend’s shocking trade which sent Devers to the Giants. Back on May 10th, it was reported that Breslow, owner John Henry and CEO Sam Kennedy all flew to Kansas City to meet with Devers and discuss the situation as the Sox played the Royals. In the wake of the trade, Giants president of baseball operations Buster Posey said that he had been discussing the deal with the Sox for three to four weeks. In other words, not long after that Kansas City meeting.

Breslow also spoke to the media yesterday and said that “It’s the willingness to step up and sacrifice at times of need and essentially do whatever is necessary to help the team win,” speaking broadly about successful teams he’d been a part of during his playing days. “I think that’s the identity, this relentless pursuit of winning, that we’re looking for.”

Looking at how Devers fit onto the roster in San Francisco raised similar questions to his time in Boston. Matt Chapman is currently on the injured list but is one of the best defensive third basemen in the league and is under contract through 2030. The club’s top prospect is Bryce Eldridge, a first baseman who recently got promoted from Double-A to Triple-A.

Given the standoff in Boston, it was fair to wonder where Devers fit but now there’s an answer. Eldridge will continue playing first base in the minors, per Pavlovic, though Devers will learn the position in the meantime. If Eldridge succeeds as a major leaguer, the two could share the roster for a long time. Devers’ contract goes for eight more years after the current season. Eldridge will be under club control until he accrues six season of service time.

Eldridge might still be the long-term first baseman and Devers the long-term DH, though at least having Devers as a viable player at that position is obviously valuable. It will provide more flexibility if Eldridge ever needs a stint on the injured list during his career, or perhaps doesn’t pan out. As heralded as he is, even the top prospects don’t always succeed when promoted to the majors.

The shift in tone from Devers will naturally lead to questions about why. It’s possible that he bore a grudge against the Sox about the broken promise or perhaps didn’t like the way they went about communicating their plans to him. Perhaps he just wants to start this new opportunity on the right foot, as opposed to kicking it off with another dispute.

That’s all speculative, though that’s all that can really be done unless further reporting sheds more light on the subject or Devers decides to open up about it. “I’m moving forward from the situation in Boston and looking forward to being a San Francisco Giant,” Devers said today, per Cotillo.

In the short term, Devers will presumably need some time to feel comfortable at first, having never played there in his career. The Giants recently moved on from first baseman LaMonte Wade Jr. and have been using Dominic Smith there, with Wilmer Flores in the DH spot. Devers is DHing tonight with Smith at first and Flores on the bench, though Flores has first base experience and could factor in there as well. Though Chapman is currently on the IL, the club doesn’t plan to use Devers at third, per Justice delos Santos of Mercury News.

Flores and Smith are both impending free agents. If Eldridge starts thriving in Triple-A, perhaps he gets called up later in the year, with Flores and/or Smith becoming trade candidates prior to the deadline. In the long run, it seems the Giants hope for a Devers/Eldridge duo in the first base/DH mix, though that will naturally depend upon Devers taking to the new position and Eldridge developing.

Meanwhile, Boston fans will be left with the hypotheticals. If playing first base wasn’t really the problem, then was there a way this could have all played out differently? What if the club had asked Devers to play first base back in November, prior to signing Bregman, and given him a full offseason/spring to prepare? What if they held him through this year and then broached the subject again ahead of the 2026 season? Those questions are all moot now as the club once again grapples with a star player leaving Boston for California.

Photos courtesy of Dale Zanine, Gregory Fisher, Jerome Miron, Sergio Estrada, Imagn Images

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  1. beyou02215

    3 weeks ago

    Eldridge to the OF?

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    • Baseball77

      3 weeks ago

      Probably going to be traded.

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      • GabrielMorenoSuperfan

        3 weeks ago

        Doubt Eldridge gets traded; more likely Devers gets moved when he gets called up.

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        • Van Lingle Mungo

          3 weeks ago

          Moved to DH or traded? Not critiquing, just clarifying.

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        • paddyo furnichuh

          3 weeks ago

          Well, he’s 20 yo, trading Eldridge now seems a bit premature with his ceiling. SFG don’t have a lot of holes now with Devers, maybe add to the pen at deadline.

          I look forward to an even more competitive 3 (or 4?) team NL West race.

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        • cooperhill

          3 weeks ago

          An un tradeable contract has already been moved once, nobody else would touch it!

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        • DBSFG25

          3 weeks ago

          If Devers had been shopped there would have been 5-8 teams willing to take him and his contract lol

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          Except there weren’t. Red Sox said they reached out to teams and besides the Giants only 3 would even take their call.

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        • Buckner

          3 weeks ago

          @the Boston Red Sox organization:
          ha Ha HAH

          You guys completely mishandled ALL of this!
          Communications skills over at Yawkey Drive: zero

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        • O'sSayCanYouSee

          3 weeks ago

          cooperhill — Reporting indicated that the Padres, Cubs, and Blue Jays all called Boston about Devers too.

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        • kidbryant

          3 weeks ago

          Cubs had no interest in Devers contract

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        • justkidding

          3 weeks ago

          Maybe because no such place as Yawkey Drive exist in Boston?

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        • Buckner

          3 weeks ago

          What-evs.
          And now there’s no chance there will ever be a Devers Drive either! Do you think Breslow survives?

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        • fearthecub

          3 weeks ago

          Yep. And Cubs have said they are content with their core of hitters and will likely focus on pitching upgrades.

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        • SportsFan0000

          3 weeks ago

          I read that Boston had the Giants offer and then called/shopped it around MLB to try to get another team to beat the Giants offer. Padres are definitely not looking to take on a long term 250M DH contract. Padres would like to shed a few of those and are seeking younger, cheaper producing players for LF.

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        • Dag Gummit

          3 weeks ago

          Goes to show that no contract of a .900 Ops hitter is untradeable.

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        • GabrielMorenoSuperfan

          3 weeks ago

          I meant moved to DH

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        • Joemo

          3 weeks ago

          Buckner – Breslow will be out in 2 years when the Sox go through their 4 year cycle with CBO/GMs.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          DBS – Absolutely! He’s on a path to being a HOF’er with 3,000 hits and 500 homeruns.

          When it comes to player relations, Red Sox are among the worst in MLB.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Buck – You know what drives poor communication?

          Arrogance.

          From top to bottom, Red Sox management is extremely arrogant. That’s why so many star players have had acrimonious exits.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          O’s – Every report I’ve seen said Braves, not Cubs.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Buck – I think Cora gets removed as manager before Breslow gets fired. Neither will happen during the season though.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Dag – Yep, it was embarrassing to see some people here months ago saying the Sox would have to release Devers or eat nearly all of his contract.

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        • Chasefor28nyy

          3 weeks ago

          The Redsox said lol. I wouldn’t trust anything that front office says

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        • robw5555

          3 weeks ago

          They wont spend that kind of money.

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        • robw5555

          3 weeks ago

          I would hold off on all that stuff. One thing for sure is that he will be difficult to deal with. You never know how a player ages. Calling for 500 HRS and 3000 hits is bold.

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        • GarryHarris

          3 weeks ago

          Devers went to the media first?

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        • GarryHarris

          3 weeks ago

          Other than the Angels, who?

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          3 weeks ago

          Calling and agreeing to take the full contract as part of the return are not the same. Not many were willing to fully absorb the contract at this stage of the season. We’ll never know the full truth so let’s see what Henry, et al. does with the money. As for Devers, it sounds like his agent finally so with him and advised on how to start a new chapter.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          3 weeks ago

          Not even going to get close in SF.

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        • Tigers3232

          3 weeks ago

          SF definitely won’t help him with any shot at 500 HRs. As for 3000 hits, not sure how one can say hes on pace. Hes in age 28 season and at best could get half way in his age 30 season. This from a guy who although a very consistent hitter has only once had 200 hits in a season.

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        • BobGibsonFan

          3 weeks ago

          Cubs had no interest in Devers contract… maybe the Cubs were looking for the Red Sox to pay a portion of the contract. Red Sox took the team that took on the entire contract.

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        • Landini

          3 weeks ago

          Like who? I know my Tigers wouldn’t want him.

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        • danumd87 2

          3 weeks ago

          Isn’t it by definition tradable then?

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        • 'Tang It

          3 weeks ago

          That’s not exactly true. They may have had interest with a better return but they likely didn’t want the full contract. Boston wasn’t moving him while eating money. For better or worse.

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        • avenger65

          3 weeks ago

          If the cubs won’t sign Tucker for the going rate, why would anyone assume they would take on Dever’s contract?

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        • bag o ballz

          3 weeks ago

          or they split time – there is a DH and 1b spot there that both can split in order to keep their bats in the lineup together. Smith has been a great seat filler but he obviously isn’t a long term plan and flores is on his last year and even though he can still hit getting up there in age. other than that there is no 1b depth in the org at all so having 2 guys that can split duties at 1b and DH isn’t really a logjam. The question as far as the young guys go is more what happens to all the OFs and how do they fit in since you have luciano, meckler and mccray all on the 40 man and at least this year nowhere to play and next year only one spot opening up if ya is gone (he has been having a good year but he is also getting up there in age so anything more than a 1 year deal is a risk)

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        • 86mets

          3 weeks ago

          Oh so Devers throwing a 4 year old style hissy fit is justified? I understand being upset over losing the 3B role. I can see some reason to be a little upset over seemingly being yanked around. But Devers handled the 1B situation as badly as one could handle it. He pouted to the media and called out his bosses publicly instead of handling the whole thing like a professional. Losing the bat will be a short term loss for Boston but in the long run, the team will be better off without the drama and unprofessional behavior.

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        • GhostofThomasHamilton

          3 weeks ago

          Most championships this century. No wonder you’re so salty

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        • burntwood

          3 weeks ago

          Hopefully the cubs keep Tucker on the roster.

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      • Mynameisnoname

        3 weeks ago

        Still only a coin flip chance he ever makes enough contact to tap into his power, so I can see the logic at moving him at potentially peak value with Devers now on board.

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        • dezpoo

          3 weeks ago

          Yeah I’m sure the Giants will just cross that bridge once Eldridge is hone in on his offense.

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        • Unclemike1526

          3 weeks ago

          So NOW he wants to play 1st Base. If he would have just done that in the first place they wouldn’t be here.

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        • WaitTil2026

          3 weeks ago

          He was upset with the Red Sox front office, and chose that way to express it. It was never about first base but about his desire to punish the team for what he felt was a betrayal.

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        • paddyo furnichuh

          3 weeks ago

          It seems like the request may have been all about the guy requesting.

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        • CardsFan57

          3 weeks ago

          He’s making the same being here. He’s also on a team with a good chance of making the playoffs. I don’t know what happened in Boston. I doubt anyone of us do. Devers is just fine no matter what happened with Boston.

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        • BaseballGuru69

          3 weeks ago

          0. 0 logic in moving Eldridge. none. zilch. he will not be moved.

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        • Mynameisnoname

          3 weeks ago

          @Uncle He was promised third base when he signed the contract. He could be a better teammate but it wasn’t about 1st base as much as it was perceived dishonesty.

          His bat would have had teams lining up to give him 300 mil when he signed that extension as a 27 year old, so I don’t agree with the monies aspect to conformity when it was his talent which allowed for such a large commitment.

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        • King. Of. Cards

          3 weeks ago

          He was probably angry with the Red Sox for how they handled his move off of 3b and the signing of Bregman.

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        • WaitTil2026

          3 weeks ago

          Definitely angry about that, King. But it was a necessary move. Better to trade him like this than to continue running him out there at third base.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          He sure punished them. The betrayal was on Devers part. He betrayed his team and his teammates.

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        • Fred K. Burke

          3 weeks ago

          A change of scenery sometimes works wonders.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          $300 million as a DH? Are you f’ing kidding me?

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        • King. Of. Cards

          3 weeks ago

          I like the deal long term for the Red Sox. And I like it short term for the Giants. My concern on the Red Sox end is they are supposed to be playing to win in 2025 and I don’t think they made their team better with this deal. I suppose they could take on a bunch of salary at the deadline if they do that then ok maybe they will improve overall.

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        • WaitTil2026

          3 weeks ago

          We”ll see… As my name implies, I’m more focused on getting the prospects up to speed and ready for 2026. A playoff appearance would be nice but isn’t the primary goal.

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        • Buckner

          3 weeks ago

          @cranky uncle mike:
          pay attention!

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        • King. Of. Cards

          3 weeks ago

          Haha yeah i hear you. Coming into 2025 i thought the Red Sox should take 2025 off so to speak and aim for the future. But then they traded for Crochet and signed Bregman so they were kinda going for it at that point. They still look to have a good future but they are clearly also in the 2025 playoff hunt so I think they need to take the Devers money and spend it on upgrades to the 2025 roster.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          Breslow said it is the primary goal

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          It should help the Red Sox. Can’t wait to hear the comments from Boston players after this weekend’s series is over.

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        • mlb fan

          3 weeks ago

          “He’s making the same..I doubt anyone one of us do”…A very good point. None of us really knows the full details of all that transpired between Raphael Devers and the Boston Red Sox.

          All we know, is what a biased, agenda driven media chooses to tell us. From what I’ve seen, it appears it was time for Devers to move on and sometimes a break is what’s best for both sides. Devers seemed fairly happy at his introductory S.F news conference.

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        • LaFleur

          3 weeks ago

          The saga gets even weirder

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        • Boston’s Alignment

          3 weeks ago

          It’s just that simple…
          Ummm. No.

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        • Armaments216

          3 weeks ago

          Obviously the Giants discussed this with Devers and his reps to make sure he was on board before they agreed to the trade.

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        • stymeedone

          3 weeks ago

          He pouted.

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        • SportsFan0000

          3 weeks ago

          Baseball experts expect Juan Soso to be a fulltime DH in 4-5 years with with over 500M still owed to him.

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        • SportsFan0000

          3 weeks ago

          The Red Sox periodic tanking after contending was coming to a close. They expect big things from grabbing all those early draft picks from the total tank.

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        • SportsFan0000

          3 weeks ago

          When this sort of thing happens on a regular basis with an MLB ballclud,. then that Ownersip Group, Front Office, Coaching Staff has some serious issues.: Mookie Betts, Xander Bogaerts, Rafael Devers and many more all disrespected, mistreated, offered promises the team never intended to keep, then tossed aside like trash. And, don’t get me started on the mistreatment & mismanagement of Red Sox Front Office personnel in Boston:
          Epstein, Cherrington, Dombrowski, Bloom, Hazen and more…

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        • Buckner

          3 weeks ago

          Wait, did you just write “baseball experts”???
          What in the world is that?
          An 11 year with an AOL account?

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        • kcmark

          3 weeks ago

          The previous GM signed him to that extension. The current GM was not a Devers fan nor a fan of that contract.

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        • kcmark

          3 weeks ago

          The Red Sox are not playing to win this season. They’ve brought up all of their top prospects. They’re in transition.

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        • kcmark

          3 weeks ago

          No, they need to get Bregman healthy and unload him at the deadline before he ops out.

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        • kcmark

          3 weeks ago

          The Red Sox front office treats free agents like royalty. Their homegrown talent not so much.

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        • lfcredsox

          3 weeks ago

          some betrayal, paying him $313 MM to play a game, he should do whatever the hell they tell him to, that’s his GD job, he’s a giant baby, fitting he went out to San Fran, the Sox front office F-ed this up bad too, you don’t trade your best player once you finally start to play good ball, it’s so silly, I’m surprised Cora has quit in protest, he’s really the one who was betrayed

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        • lfcredsox

          3 weeks ago

          some betrayal, paying him $313 MM to play a game, he should do whatever the hell they tell him to, that’s his GD job, he’s a giant baby, fitting he went out to San Fran, the Sox front office F-ed this up bad too, you don’t trade your best player once you finally start to play good ball, it’s so silly, I’m surprised Cora hasn’t quit in protest, he’s really the one who was betrayed

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        • lfcredsox

          3 weeks ago

          exactly right

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Mike – Cause and effect.

          If the Red Sox didn’t do Devers dirty, he never would have been traded.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Wait – It’s called accountability.

          Raffy held the Red Sox accountable.

          And you know what? Breslow yesterday admitted he misbehaved in his handling of Devers, and he pledged to learn from the experience and treat players better in the future.

          So really Devers should be thanked for teaching Breslow and the Red Sox a lesson.

          The whole purpose of punishment is to correct bad behavior, is it not?

          How did YOU correct your kid’s bad behavior? I’m guessing by holding him accountable with some sort of punishment.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Wait – Or they could have platooned Raffy at first base since the start of the season, which would have made him happy because he enjoys playing in the field.

          Absolutely nobody is surprised the Giants in 48 hours have already accomplished what the Red Sox were too incompetent to accomplish.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Wait – Even if guys like Roman and Marcelo become stars and Crochet stays healthy, do you really have confidence in the front office to make the decisions necessary to reach the World Series?

          Sorry, the Sox have been following a similar path to the O’s for a while now ….. I wouldn’t be surprised if they repeat the O’s winning a lot of regular season games the next few years but crapping out every postseason.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Arm – Raffy is a super chill guy that will go along with anything asked of him.

          Just don’t do him dirty, it’s as simple as that.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          stymee – Funny thing is most people believe this was a revenge move by Breslow because Raffy wouldn’t bow down to him.

          Wouldn’t it be ironic if both Raffy and Sale complete their HOF careers while Breslow leaves Boston within 2 years.

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        • Unclemike1526

          3 weeks ago

          Fever Pitch guy- How did the Red Sox do Devers dirty? They had a chance to improve their team and took it. Devers acted like a pathetic little man-child and cried himself into a rage about nothing. So he’s willing to move to 1B now, And I think it’s FREAKIN hilarious that Breslow traded him to another team who has a better 3B than him so now he has to move or DH. I think Breslow did it on purpose. In fact there are probably 20 3B who are better fielders than him so he should have just taken his 300 million, Shut his mouth and moved over, Like he’s gonna do anyway. What an A**.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Sports – I wasn’t a fan of Bloom, but what the Red Sox did after he got fired was absolutely disgusting.

          Literally a day after his firing, news breaks that Bloom had turned down a trade offer of Sale to the Rangers for prospects. The Sox announcers ON A LIVE BROADCAST were mocking Bloom for failing to make that trade.

          Even Bloom knew Sale was due for a strong comeback.

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          Fever, all we’ve got is he said she said.

          Supposedly the sox asked devers to take 1B reps the spring and he refused during his ‘I’m the 3b. I’m only a 3b’ phase…

          *if that’s true, and Raffy refused, undercuts some of what you say.

          *IF*

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          Fever, that’s giving bloom too much credit. The list of guys bloom refused to trade was long and distinguished

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          kc – Well, yes and no.

          Ownership never intended for Raffy to play out the entire contract in a Red Sox uniform. Raffy was just a stopgap until Mayer and Anthony (and Teel) arrived.

          Everyone knew it was an overpay at the time, and there was no way they were gonna give that amount of money to a DH. Therefore the plan all along was to trade Raffy eventually, which is why the Sox refused to give him a no trade clause.

          So yes Breslow wanted Raffy gone, but ownership also wanted to get out from under that contract.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          kc – Exactly! Kennedy even said that last year, they never intended to try and win until the rookies became established MLB stars …. which means 2026 at the earliest.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          kc – They won’t unload Bregman unless they are more than 6 games out of the WC at the deadline.

          They really need his bat right now, without Raffy the Sox have scored a total of just 2 runs on just 6 hits in 18 innings with 22 strikeouts.

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        • andymeyer

          3 weeks ago

          Or do what is asked for your team when situations arise, handle it like an adult and play ball. Pretty simple if you’re a good teammate.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          lf – I do agree with you on trading your best player when they had finally started to play well.

          As reserved and professional as the players were about this trade, they still admitted they were shocked he got traded right when they were playing their best ball.

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          I think Buster put a time limit on the offer, now or never. Breslows comments about even he wished the timing were better, but, sometimes you can’t choose… makes me think it was narrowed to a set of parameters, and, had to be then and there

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Uncle – Something tells me you’ve already seen articles like this one detailing the chain of events, but in case you didn’t ….

          blogs.fangraphs.com/the-red-sox-are-pulling-the-wr…

          “When asked during the Winter Meetings about rumors that Devers might be moved off third, manager Alex Cora said, “I don’t know where that comes from. I haven’t talked to Raffy about that. I have never talked to his agent about that. People talk about his defense. Actually, I thought last year, he did an outstanding job, especially to his left…. And I guarantee you we haven’t had those conversations.” Clearly, the last sentence was true, but there’s no universe in which Cora was unaware of how much Devers’ defense hurt the team last season. Maybe his willingness to say something so obviously untrue should have been a sign.

          Cora doubled down on those comments just a few weeks later. “Rafael Devers is our third baseman,” he told NESN. “I always envisioned Alex as a Gold Glover second baseman.” Even when Bregman signed, the Red Sox indicated that he would play second base, as a source told ESPN’s Jeff Passan on the day the news of the deal broke.

          Then all hell broke loose. Two days after Bregman agreed to his three-year, $120 million contract, with opt outs after either of the first two seasons, Cora and chief baseball officer Craig Breslow did exactly what they’d been saying for months that they wouldn’t do. They asked Devers to move to designated hitter.”

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        • SportsFan0000

          3 weeks ago

          You kidding?! Cora is all about Cora, not the team.
          It was Cora’s job to be have a better relationship with his POBs , GMs and players so things don’,t. continually, get this messed up.

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        • all in the suit that you wear

          3 weeks ago

          Sounds like Fever Pitch Guy has a bigger grudge against the Red Sox than Rafael Devers!

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        • SportsFan0000

          3 weeks ago

          Low class move leaked from Red Sox Front office or Cora,

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        • SportsFan0000

          3 weeks ago

          Bloom is easing in as the new POB for the St. Louis Cardinals.
          Running is own Front Office, Bloom will bloom in St Louis.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          GaSox – I agree, gotta consider the sources. I know we’ve talked about this before, but a classic example was the rumor that Raffy was supposedly upset because Campbell supposedly volunteered to play first base.

          It turned out to be 100% false. Cora confirmed that not only was Raffy not upset, but also that Campbell didn’t even volunteer …. Cora asked him to learn first base.

          BTW – What do you think of the coaching staff publicly teaching Roman how to field ground balls in the outfield?

          There’s reports it was a revenge move because the front office was criticizing the coaching staff for all the team errors. Honestly I don’t know what to think about that one, if true then the organization is even more dysfunctional and fragmented than what I thought.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          GaSox – Point taken :O)

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        • Unclemike1526

          3 weeks ago

          I don’t really care about who said what in some stupid article. The fact is Crap happens, No matter who said what circumstances changed, They had a shot to make the TEAM better and took it. We can debate all year about whether it was a good baseball move, But the facts are the team showed immense loyalty to a player by paying him 300 million bucks and he repaid their loyalty by acting like a horse’s a**. He’s all about the team? He showed his true self. Sorry but to me he’ll always be a pathetic loser. Woe is me they asked me change positions. Here let me wipe these crocodile tears away with this 300 million dollar pay stub. I wanna be traded or I’ll pout! I swear I will! Are you freakin kidding me.

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        • Unclemike1526

          3 weeks ago

          And if we’re talking about articles I seem to remember reading one at the time where Bregman said he was willing to move to second base if it was a problem. So I guess we all can see who the real team player was. And it’s not Devers.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Mike – Honest question, are you in management? Most management believes employees should always do what they are told and accept mistreatment. I’m in the minority though, I’m in management, but because of past experiences I believe in treating subordinates as colleagues instead of servants. It’s helped me empathize with employees like Raffy.

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        • Unclemike1526

          3 weeks ago

          I believe when you sign your name it means something. And if it doesn’t you’re pretty much worthless. Both as an employee and a human being. Because if your name is worthless so are you. You signed a deal to be part of a TEAM. A contract is a contract and it doesn’t matter to me if it was for 300 million or 300 bucks. It’s just that freakin simple. Did any of his checks bounce? Then management’s signature meant something. Truth is I was never in management. But whenever the company asked me to do something I did it if I was able or I tried. And if you don’t like it go somewhere else.

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        • Tigers3232

          3 weeks ago

          @Wait Are you kidding me a betrayal? The guy received a contract worth $300M+ that in no way is a betrayal. Numerous big name players have switched positions throughout MLB history. A team player and a clubhouse leader does so with no qualms if it is best for the team.

          Some of these comments are laughable, I’ve read some accusing BOS using media to viliify Devers. What they completely miss with those accusations is it was Devers himself in front of media.

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        • Tigers3232

          3 weeks ago

          @Mynameis He was promised $300M+ when he signed contract. He had no contractual language cementing him at 3B. Now his ego might have perceived it as such, but the only things guaranteed are those stipulated . As a MLB player he is guaranteed the fully guaranteed all $ which is more than most pro sports players in other leagues receive.

          As for MLB players, only a select few have/had received contracts in excessive of $300M, so trying to spin this as poor Devers is really hard to support. It seems most comments in support of Devers are coming from those who have it out for BOS front office and Henry. Im sorry but trying to make a martyr out of Devers just weakens this stance not bolster it.

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        • Tigers3232

          3 weeks ago

          It wasnt biased agenda driven media, it was Devers being interviewed. Now I agree it was definitely time to move on, but this was no smear campaign. He chose his stance and stated it publicly.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          GaSox – Disagree. Buster was actively pursuing the trade since the Kansas City meetings about a month ago.

          Why would he put a time limit on the offer? There’s still 6 months to the trade deadline and 2/3 of MLB teams are still in contention for postseason spots.

          It’s not like Buster was prepared to pivot to some other trade opportunity.

          Breslow’s comment was just damage control after several players including Duran were upset about the timing of the trade.

          Trust me, I know the thinking of the Red Sox front office on the timing.

          1) Raffy kills Yankee pitching, wait until the 6 Yankee games have been played

          2) Fanbase is very happy and excited about the 5-game win streak, makes it easier for them to accept the trade. Imagine if it was done after a 5-game losing streak, would have been brutal.

          3) Fanbase is very happy and excited about the promotion of Roman and the reuniting of the Big Three, makes it easier for them to accept the trade.

          4) The start of a long West Coast trip, gives the fans and media time to process the trade with no games at Fenway and the team playing in a different time zone

          The timing was 100% calculated on the Red Sox end.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          paddyo – Exactly, and how it was requested.

          I’ve been saying for a long time how dysfunctional the Sox front office is, and the inevitable divide that is occurring between Breslow/Cora/others. This is a great article from a reputable writer that supports it:

          sports.yahoo.com/mlb/article/inside-the-absolute-s…

          “Meanwhile, Breslow has grown increasingly insulated. Multiple sources within the organization describe a front office losing cohesion. Staffers who helped build four championship teams — veterans of the Theo Epstein, Ben Cherington, Dave Dombrowski and Bloom regimes — now feel shut out of the operation. The collaborative spirit that once defined Red Sox baseball operations has frayed.

          The discontent intensified in May 2024, when Breslow brought in sports consulting firm Sportsology to conduct an organizational audit. The stated purpose was to streamline baseball operations. In practice, it triggered a wave of firings and accelerated the marginalization of some of the longest-tenured voices in the building, characterizing the cultural shift to align more with Wall Street efficiency.

          The internal strain has bled into how the Red Sox handle their players, too.

          The coaching staff has grown frustrated with the state of player development, specifically how much emphasis is placed on swing mechanics and hitting data, often at the expense of fundamentals. That imbalance, coaches believe, traces back to the Bloom era and has only accelerated under Breslow. One example cited is rookie Kristian Campbell, who has made a string of routine errors at second base since being called up. He’s not alone; as a team, the Red Sox lead all of baseball with 64 errors, one more than the Colorado Rockies and 17 more than the third-place Los Angeles Angels.

          Another error came during Roman Anthony’s debut, when he misplayed a ball in right field. The next day, Anthony was sent out to run outfield drills in front of the media. Multiple people in the organization noted that under previous regimes, that kind of instruction would’ve taken place behind closed doors. This time, it felt like a message from the coaching staff to the front office. One team source described the message as deliberate: “This is what we still have to teach, at the big-league level.”

          Ownership, meanwhile, has grown increasingly hands-off. Since Epstein’s tenure, Red Sox owners have often acted as active stewards of baseball operations — meddling at times but always deeply invested. But now, multiple sources say there’s a growing sense that John Henry delegates the day-to-day operations of the Red Sox to team president Sam Kennedy. That detachment has created an opening for divergent priorities across Fenway Sports Group’s portfolio. Case in point: Just days before the Devers trade, FSG made headlines in England by spending a record £116 million ($157.7 million) on German star Florian Wirtz at Liverpool. Meanwhile, in Boston, they were preparing to offload their franchise star.

          The optics are staggering. On a picturesque Sunday afternoon, the Red Sox swept the Yankees. Hours later, they traded Devers. No farewell. Just silence. One staffer described the situation as “an absolute s*** show.”

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Uncle – Well at least we’ve established that you don’t care about facts. LOL!

          Nobody is arguing about Devers being moved off third base, we all knew it needed to be done at some point.

          It’s HOW they handled it that was horrific.

          Mutual respect and trust is vital in any employee/employer relationship. You seem to disagree about that, which is your right. But I assure you, it’s not the 1970’s anymore ….. you can’t treat employees like crap – especially your best employee – and not expect it to have a negative impact on your business.

          You equate a paycheck with loyalty?

          Here’s how it goes:

          The employer has something the employee wants and needs – a job.

          The employee has something the employer wants and needs – the ability to perform well in said job.

          End result, the employee/employer relationship is nothing more than two people using each other to get what they want.

          Kinda like marriage ;O)

          BTW – The Red Sox refusal to give Raffy a no trade clause is clear evidence they didn’t intend to keep Raffy for the life of the contract. I seriously doubt we will EVER see this ownership group hold onto any star player for their entire career.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Mike – Bregman said that to make himself more marketable in free agency.

          You DO realize he and Cora are BFF’s, right?

          Bregman knew the Red Sox were hellbent on replacing Raffy at third base. Him saying he would be willing to move to 2B was just for show.

          You are waaaaay too trusting of management.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Mike – Again, signing your name to a contract doesn’t mean you are now the employer’s slave. It doesn’t mean the employer can mistreat you as much as they want and you have to tolerate it.

          If some company signs you to a 10-year-contract to be their latex salesman, and then 2 years later they decide they want to get rid of you so they re-assign you to cleaning toilets all day, are you honestly gonna accept that change?

          You keep mentioning checks like employees are paid slaves. That’s a very outdated mentality. Employees today demand to be treated with respect. If you as an employer don’t, then you’re gonna have a really really hard time finding new hires and retaining them.

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        • Landini

          3 weeks ago

          Not sure moving to first base and getting 30+million a year is comparable to cleaning toilets. Come on. More and more players are trending to playing multiple positions. It’s the way the game is trending.

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        • Tigers3232

          3 weeks ago

          Asking a player who is under contract for $300M+ to play an opposite corner IF is akin to slavery?!?!? That is just an absolutely ignorant and over dramatic claim.

          A player was hurt and the teams needs changed. Trying to spin this as though Devers was mistreated is laughable. They were not trying to arbitrarily move him around. It was out of necessity triggered by another event. The fact that Devers turned the whole thing into just him is telling in itself…

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Whoops …. obviously I meant 6 weeks to the trade deadline, not 6 months. LOL

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        • Unclemike1526

          3 weeks ago

          FPG- Uhhh signing a contract means EXACTLY that. If it doesn’t, it’s just toilet paper.

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        • WadeBoggsWildRide

          3 weeks ago

          Cora is not the best.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Mike – We will have to agree to disagree.

          You see a specific job posted.
          You apply for that job.
          You sign a contract to get paid for that specific job, which is reflected in the job title on the contract.

          If the employer suddenly decides to change your job without even discussing it with you first, there will be problems.

          There is absolutely no point in retaining an employee who is unhappy with a job change, even if you legally can. Their performance will likely suck, which benefits nobody.

          Did you know in some states like Cali, if your employer changes your job, you can choose to resign and are legally entitled to a large severance.

          Employee rights have come a long way since the 1970’s.

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        • WadeBoggsWildRide

          3 weeks ago

          That yahoo sports article pulled no punches.

          It kind of sounds like Breslow should have just clean slated the entire office when he came aboard.

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        • Unclemike1526

          3 weeks ago

          Judging by what was said at the end of that Zoom call, He probably still should.

          FPG- Yeah his specific job was to play baseball. Not whine like a 2 year old about nothing. Most contracts these days might as well be toilet paper. Because once yo get paid you can become a pain in the A** for no reason.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Wade – Yeah I agree. Regardless of how good or bad Breslow’s approach to baseball ops might be, it’s important that everyone is on the same page.

          But realistically, immediately replacing an entire front office is not possible.

          And as we all know, Breslow didn’t have the authority to bring his own manager and was forced to extend Cora last year.

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        • Unclemike1526

          3 weeks ago

          FPG- Yeah he was signed for one job. To play baseball. Pretty sure that contract didn’t stipulate he would play 3B. If you can prove otherwise, By all means blow me away.

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        • WadeBoggsWildRide

          3 weeks ago

          It seems like he came in and tried to see what he could make work with the staff on hand. Then kept everyone too long. If they have the level of petty crap going on that the article points out they need to get rid of a lot of people. I have liked Breslow’s moves on the acquisition side but this really makes me wonder how poor his people management is.

          You need to quickly assess who is competent and trustworthy. Find out where people’s strengths are. Then start purging the cancers. Culture is probably the most important thing in any human endeavor and it can be very difficult to fix.

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        • WadeBoggsWildRide

          3 weeks ago

          That extension is a killer. You need to be in line with your manager. Cora should be the communicator that bridges the gap to the players and coaching staff.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Mike – He knew he would be transitioning off 3B before the extension expires.

          He was verbally told that wouldn’t happen for a very long time.

          Not one rational person would call 2 years in “a very long time”.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Wade – Yeah, typically when a new boss comes in – especially one with zero experience – the first season is an assessment year. They assess what they’ve got, who is strong, who is weak, yadda yadda.

          And as the article stated, he did hire an outside consultant to perform an audit.

          But i agree with you, changes should have been made last offseason.

          And his hands were tied with not only Cora, but plenty of other longtime employees who are favorites of Henry.

          Let’s put it this way, people like Kennedy and Cora aren’t leaving the organization as long as Henry is running the show.

          And yeah Breslow’s social/people/managerial skills are weak.

          I see this so many times in corporate America, people get promoted to management because of their knowledge with total disregard to their lack of managerial skills.

          People skills should be a top requirement for any management position.

          BTW – Firing the scouting supervisor who badmouthed him was absolutely the right thing to do.

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        • Unclemike1526

          3 weeks ago

          FPG-Then if you’re admitting that, And he supposedly knew that, Then I have no idea what your whole point is. You admit he knew it wasn’t forever, The time limit means nothing, A better plan became available and the Sox made it happen sooner. So I guess you’re right. We’ll NEVER agree about this EVER. And I’m completely dizzy about what Cora has to do with ANY of this. He’s just a Manager who is taking the players he is given by management and putting his best team on the field like any other manager. You know, Like his basic job description.

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        • NEsports

          3 weeks ago

          Sox fan for 50:plus years. I lost respect for Devers he is an employee, has never felt like a team player. Been in the show for a while and still interviews in Spanish?

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        • all in the suit that you wear

          3 weeks ago

          Wait is saying that Devers viewed/felt it was a betrayal, not that it actually was which I think is spot on.

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        • Newms22

          3 weeks ago

          If Devers was loyal to the Red Sox by doing what he was asked to do and keeping his mouth shut, he would not have been traded. After he publicly trashed his bosses and then called out KC for being willing to play 1B, the Red Sox had no choice. Saving all of that money on his contract is just a bonus.

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        • all in the suit that you wear

          3 weeks ago

          Tigers3232: “Asking a player who is under contract for $300M+ to play an opposite corner IF is akin to slavery?!?!? That is just an absolutely ignorant and over dramatic claim. Trying to spin this as though Devers was mistreated is laughable.”
          ===============
          This is what Fever Pitch Guy repeatedly does here. He spins things and makes things up to try to bash the Red Sox as much as possible.

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        • Newms22

          3 weeks ago

          Devers is the “kid” in this situation. So you’re saying he was justified in holding his parents accountable?

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        • Newms22

          3 weeks ago

          … and the kid taught Devers how to handle the situation by saying he would do anything to help the Red Sox win.

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        • Newms22

          3 weeks ago

          You’re using a lot of words to say the same thing, and no one really is buying it, FPG. We love our Sox with all of their flaws and failures. So, go jump on a different thread and trash another team for a while, preferably the Yankees.

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        • Joemo

          3 weeks ago

          Newms – Cora refutes the rumor about KC: masslive.com/redsox/2025/06/red-sox-alex-cora-debu…

          Devers doesn’t have to be loyal to the Red Sox, he just needs to go out there and he a baseball like one of the best in the game.

          The Sox, in addition to the behavior this year, surrounded him with a horrible team for the majority of his career. They did him no favors.

          The last time anyone feared the Red Sox was 2018. In 2021 the pitching was awful and Bloom did nothing to improve it at the deadline.

          Loyalty is a two way street. The Red Sox treated Devers horribly by lying to him multiple times. He was one of the few bright spots on the team since 2018 and they took the first opportunity to ship him out of town. This is a pattern with the Red Sox. See Manny, Tito, Mookie, etc.

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        • Unclemike1526

          3 weeks ago

          Look I love FPG and most of his comments are very good. But on this matter he’s talking out of both sides of his mouth. He says in one post Devers was promised to play only 3B and in a post a couple of lines down he says that Devers knew they were going to move him off 3B at some point. So which is it? You can’t say in one post the Sun rises in the East and then in the next say the Sun rises in the West. Both things can’t be true. That’s just a fact. So I’ll say I disagree with him as obviously as a fan he has some kind of emotional connection to Devers. As an outsider I can say he’s a clod. We just have different perspectives is all.

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        • 'Tang It

          3 weeks ago

          They didn’t change the job. We’re not talking about a CFO being asked to be a janitor. We’re talking about CFO being asked to handle financials in a different manner. Job responsibilities change all the time.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          Not sure what “experts” you are reading. Can you provide us with the sources of that “wisdom”?

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          There is a reason that most people have muted FPG

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        • 'Tang It

          3 weeks ago

          I don’t think they let him. Hence the problem. I think breslow probably is difficult to work with, but when you’ve had two front offices in a row that have botched similar things, I tend to believe the idiots that are still there are the problem, not the new guy. I think breslow wants change and the others left over are the hindrance. I take those reports with a grain of salt.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          No, we have actual press conferences with Devers on camera being a petulant child.

          He refused to play DH even when he was not physically able to even take ground balls at 3B or 1B. He arrived at spring training on February 10th overweight and injured to the point that not only could not take infield practice, he could not even hit in a spring training game until March 15th. His job is to go do what gives his team the best chance of winning more games. His refusal was an affront to his teammates and baseball as a whole.

          ALL of the problems are on him.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          When FPG first appeared on this site he did say he was a Yankees fan.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          Leaked? They had a 48 minute press conference. Where have you been?

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          Its FPG, what do you expect? Logic? Living in reality? Mute him if you want either of those.

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      • chiefnocahoma1

        3 weeks ago

        He’s been making starts in the OF already. I think they’ll hold on to him.

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      • BaseballGuru69

        3 weeks ago

        LMAOOO no.

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      • Boston’s Alignment

        3 weeks ago

        They are not trading a hitter.

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      • GarryHarris

        3 weeks ago

        Even with his enormous contract?

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    • m34josh

      3 weeks ago

      Posey said they are going to keep giving Eldridge reps at 1B

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    • BaseballGuru69

      3 weeks ago

      hes a natural outfielder. Posey said he’ll continue to get reps at 1b. When that problem arises they’ll figure it out. Could also alternate Devers and Eldridge between 1b and DH to keep both fresh and in the lineup. Wouldn’t surprise me if Eldridge comes up next year as an outfielder and in 3-4 years moves to 1b with Devers being the everyday DH.

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      • goob

        3 weeks ago

        Can a 40 grade runner be a “natural outfielder”..?

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    • _balderdash_

      3 weeks ago

      He’s not a great 1B and an even worse OF (which is why he was moved to 1B to begin with). He’s young though, so improvement wouldn’t be surprising.

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    • GarryHarris

      3 weeks ago

      I think Devers will still DH. It makes sense SFG works him out at 1B as an experiment. Teams find versatility more useful than set positions and SFG is no different.

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  2. murphy8

    3 weeks ago

    NO WAY. Making I statement I guess. Clearly didn’t like Boston anymore

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    • paddyo furnichuh

      3 weeks ago

      Cue the Bill Burr comment about Boston from about 15 years ago.

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      • Gwynning

        3 weeks ago

        Burr loves Boston, did you mean his complete undressing of Philadelphia?

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        • paddyo furnichuh

          3 weeks ago

          @gwynning…Nah not that one, it was just a joke he made about Boston on the Green Room w/ Paul Provence. I won’t repeat what he said because the tone won’t come across. I was kind of joking by mentioning it.
          My comment was just a tad dated.

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        • paddyo furnichuh

          3 weeks ago

          Paul Provenza*

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    • Drasco0366

      3 weeks ago

      Exactly. Breslow treated Devers like dirt. I hope Devers helps the Giants win the division

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      • JackStrawb

        1 week ago

        Yes, and it’s good to see Devers responding well to being treated reasonably, as of course he was always likely to.

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  3. cryaboutit

    3 weeks ago

    I can feel the Red Sox steaming right now.

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    • WaitTil2026

      3 weeks ago

      Nah, you are welcome to him. He’ll be good for you.

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    • GhostofThomasHamilton

      3 weeks ago

      More like breathing a sigh of relief.

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        3 weeks ago

        Ghost – Sam “Mr Burns” Kennedy couldn’t keep the creepy grin off his face during Monday’s Zoom press conference.

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    • Pads Fans

      3 weeks ago

      Why? He has been working out at 1B for a month for the Red Sox. The Red Sox just no longer needed him to play 1B because Toro and Gonzalez are back and playing extremely well.

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      • Van Lingle Mungo

        3 weeks ago

        He wouldn’t even take grounders. WTF are you talking about?

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    • soxshortstop

      3 weeks ago

      NOWWWWWWWWWWW, we’re willing to play 1B after making a jerk of himself.

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    • Boston’s Alignment

      3 weeks ago

      He’s a terrible fielder. Skip the steam.

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    • nukeg

      3 weeks ago

      What surprises me is that Devers did not have a no trade clause in that size of contract.

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      • GASoxFan

        3 weeks ago

        Devers was literally on the cusp of 10&5 rights. Figured he wouldn’t need it, thinking he wouldn’t get traded in year 2 of the extension. Next season he’d have full no trade rights had he remained in boston

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        3 weeks ago

        nuke – The Red Sox refused to give him even a partial NTC …. because they never intended to keep him the full 10 years.

        Raffy was nothing more than a stopgap until the prized rookies arrived. They had to extend him because they shoved all the other stars out the door by then, except for Sale who was hurt.

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        • SportsFan0000

          3 weeks ago

          Red Sox fans were in open revolt over the Sox business plan of tanking after every successful run.

          The Devers signing was in direct response to heavy criticism about how Ownership & the Front Office completely botched the Mookie Betts and Xander Bogaerts signings as those players signed with LA and San Diego.

          Fitting that Devers went to San Francisco.

          Next Red Sox free agent to either Seattle or Arizona?!

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        • Cora the Destroya

          3 weeks ago

          And how has Bogaerts worked out?

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        • lamars

          3 weeks ago

          While Bogaerts was overpaid by the Padres the Red Sox never gave him a realistic offer.

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        • WadeBoggsWildRide

          3 weeks ago

          Seattle can’t afford a can of beans let alone Boston’s cast offs. Arizona maybe!

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        • Cora the Destroya

          3 weeks ago

          How do you know what they offered Bogaerts? If the Padres offer was “reasonable,” then Chaim Bloom did it right for once. Anything less than what the Padres gave is “unreasonable” to most fans, and he ended up being a dud

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    • JackStrawb

      1 week ago

      They deserve it. You don’t deceive an employee, play the “that guy? He’s no longer with the team” garbage, and get anything other than what you deserve.

      Devers isn’t a serf, and he did well not to tolerate being lied to then stabbed in the back in the press by the Sox’ FO

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  4. murphy8

    3 weeks ago

    Just read the whole thing following my first comment, DH and first base lol. Refused to play there in Boston tho.

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    • Iasounis

      3 weeks ago

      He probably refused because he didn’t like the how the team handled the Bregman signing. They probably lied/kept him in the dark about their plans. He may have been more open if he didn’t feel blindsided.

      With that, he kinda shoulda offered to allow the team to move him to 1B (granted, by then, he already felt disrespected). At this point, he’s already got his ‘career money’ so he should be less interested in what he wants (go his contract) and maybe do whatever the team asks; as he is doing in SF.

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      • kcmark

        3 weeks ago

        He was told to leave his glove at home so he did.

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          We don’t know exactly what he was told, or, how his translator altered the adjectives and verbs in translation. I haven’t seen any video of the actual meeting where this happened.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          3 weeks ago

          From the press conference, it looks like Devers can understand English very well; he just can’t speak it that well. Maybe I am wrong, but I did not see the translator translating questions, only Devers’ answers.

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      • all in the suit that you wear

        3 weeks ago

        They probably lied/kept him in the dark about their plans. He may have been more open if he didn’t feel blindsided.
        =====================
        The Red Sox are not obligated to keep players abreast of their plan. One reason is plans may never come to fruition.

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        • Calvin25

          3 weeks ago

          You also don’t want to telegraph your strategy to your opponents.

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  5. farscott

    3 weeks ago

    It is not always about the question, but how the question is asked. It appears the Giants carefully made their request versus what the Red Sox did.

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    • dezpoo

      3 weeks ago

      Melvin followed up by saying that they’ll work him in there slowly since he hadn’t taken the field all season. They’ll play it by ear but they won’t rush him until he’s comfortable.

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    • VegasMoved

      3 weeks ago

      Doesn’t really reflect well on Devers, either way. Is his ego that fragile?

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      • gbs42

        3 weeks ago

        Also doesn’t reflect well on Red Sox management. Are their communication skills that poor?

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        • WaitTil2026

          3 weeks ago

          Yes and yes…

          There was a lot of weird stuff happening under Bloom/Kennedy. Breslow has been trying to clean house, to reshape a losing organization, but of course he is getting blowback for that. See the Post article today…

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          It’s definitely both.

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        • Paleobros

          3 weeks ago

          Both

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          gbs – Their communication skills are horrific, because of their arrogance.

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        • Cora the Destroya

          3 weeks ago

          You can’t really blame the Sox for changes under a new regime… but you can blame Devers for not being a team player, yet easily being a team player for the Giants. Sox still got themselves in trouble with the way they handled it, though, and could have done better.

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        • WadeBoggsWildRide

          3 weeks ago

          Wait- Hit it on the head. All the egos were too big and none of the communication was adequate.

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      • BaseballGuru69

        3 weeks ago

        The Giants had a similar issue under the Kapler / Zaidi era with Giants franchise player Brandon Crawford. They signed Carlos Correa without keeping him in the loop or notifying him he’d be moving positions. He was pissed off at them too. Thankfully the Correa deal fell through It’s not just Devers. most players react this way. It’s a sign of respect to a player who has done a lot for your organization.

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        • Ernie Riles

          3 weeks ago

          Not completely similar. The difference is that Devers is in his prime and Crawford was at the end of the line.

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        • Boston’s Alignment

          3 weeks ago

          And Crawford’s offense was terrible.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Guru – You get it … excellent post!!!

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      • stymeedone

        3 weeks ago

        Yep!

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        3 weeks ago

        Vegas – More importantly, Raffy’s self-respect is intact.

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        • cdchi

          3 weeks ago

          I doubt if he has the respect of his former teammates,the guys in the dugout. Yeah, maybe you where lied to and mislead,but moving to 1st will help the TEAM. THey may never admit it , but how can they not have some animosity towards someone who would not help the team.?

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    • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

      3 weeks ago

      Feels like the nine figure contract is a pretty solid way of saying “pretty please”.

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      • gbs42

        3 weeks ago

        66,

        That nine-figure contract also came with a “promise” Devers would be their 3B for a long while. He deserves a share of the blame, but both parties ruined this relationship.

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          The problem is that they never should have had to make him that promise in that first place.

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        • stymeedone

          3 weeks ago

          Contracts contain clauses, not promises. Where was his agent?

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          If I’m a GM and an agent comes at with me with a line in a contract requiring a terrible defender to remain at a critical defensive position, I’m laughing him out of the building.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          no – They repeatedly promised Raffy all offseason he would be the starting 3B this year.

          It’s not about just the promise they made when he signed the extension.

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          It’s a promise they should never have made but it’s a promise he had no business asking for. If he wants to play 3B so bad he should have been better at it.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          no – Huh????

          He was repeatedly told, often without asking, that 3B was his this season.

          He didn’t “ask” them to promise him, they promised him all on their own.

          All he wanted was to be told what the hell was going on, which he had a right to be told.

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          Why would they EVER make that promise if he didn’t ask them to? Have you seen him play third base?

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          no – Read the chain of events please.

          blogs.fangraphs.com/the-red-sox-are-pulling-the-wr…

          Cora: “People talk about his defense. Actually, I thought last year he did an outstanding job, especially to his left”

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        • Cora the Destroya

          3 weeks ago

          Why do you always hate on the Sox, Fever? No matter what the issue is, you argue against them and add side-step arguments into other irrelevant issues just to poke at the Red Sox. You call yourself a fan?

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        • Poolhalljunkies

          3 weeks ago

          I think fpg may be the biggest red sox hater on this site his comments are 90% negative and when they do something good he can’t help but taking a sarcastic shot at them should even acknowledge it

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        • Cora the Destroya

          3 weeks ago

          Ironically, he can’t read any of my posts. He had banned me previously, but somehow I can read his

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        • Poolhalljunkies

          3 weeks ago

          Lol same..pretty sure he muted me for calling him out on his bs

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      • CarverAndrews

        3 weeks ago

        Just came on here – saw the headline – had a good laugh. What a freakin’ comedy. Devers is a little boy, which is in keeping with the popular approach these days. Everyone has a grievance, and life is terribly unfair so let’s blame everyone else and get our nose out of joint rather than wear big boy pants. Very much like the toddler in the oval.

        The Red Sox mishandled things but you are spot on – the nine figure deal is quite the grievance curative.

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        • gbs42

          3 weeks ago

          So, “We’re paying you, so do whatever we tell you” is how things should work?

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        • CarverAndrews

          3 weeks ago

          @gbs42 – Minor adjustment to your phrasing.

          “we are paying you over $300M for ten years to play the game of baseball. You were a terrible defensive 3B and we decided to get a GG 3B there instead. I know that it hurts your ego but you have teammates and fans that are counting on you to buckle your britches. And things change in the game, so stay tuned as we need you to be a team leader”.

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        • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

          3 weeks ago

          They didn’t ask him to walk the streets and hand over the cash. They asked him to play baseball.

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        • gbs42

          3 weeks ago

          Carver,

          Cut the unnecessary shots about his terrible defense, ego, and “buckle your britches,” and that’s a reasonable comment.

          What’s the point of being insulting and confrontational to a high-performing employee? It reflects poorly on the organization and demonstrates a lack of maturity on the part of the person saying it.

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        • stymeedone

          3 weeks ago

          @GBs42
          Its called the employer/employee relationship. The Red Sox could have suspended him/moved him to the disqualified list for refusing to play. Devers could have demanded/requested a trade.

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        • CarverAndrews

          3 weeks ago

          @gbs:

          1. His defense was bad. Demonstrably bad. When a team looks to improve a weak area, they are doing the right thing.
          2. His own comments and sulking point out the ego issues.
          3. You are a bit confused, as I am not his employer, nor even a fan. I am a Phillies fan, and a fan of the game in general.

          Buckle the britches? Colorful, but unnecessary and I truly hope that he is not reading my comments as that one was disrespectful. I will call the hotel and ask them to add an additional chocolate on the pillow.

          Being serious for a moment – the amazing effort that is being put in by a number of you RS fans to champion a guy that has truly handled this issue in an immature fashion is numbing. Sure – y’all don’t like the front office and I am sure that they have made plenty of mistakes including with Devers. Realistically however not a single one of you really and truly knows what went on behind closed doors.

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        • reflect

          3 weeks ago

          We gotta stop acting like baseball players are enslaved. He is free to quit MLB at any time if he didn’t like the obligations of his MLB contract.

          So yes. That is how it works and how it should work.

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        • youngliam

          3 weeks ago

          They “got” a 3B who might only be there for one day. A short deal with opt outs after every season. Devers was set to be with them for over a decade, should have made sure he was comfortable with a move.

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        • youngliam

          3 weeks ago

          *year

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        • kcmark

          3 weeks ago

          “And you told me to leave my glove at home because I would be needing it”.

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        • kcmark

          3 weeks ago

          And the MLBPA would have filed a grievance. You cannot make a player play a position he’s never played before. So if they demanded he catch that’s okay?

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          Is that in the CBA somewhere?

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    • Pads Fans

      3 weeks ago

      Posey told him he would play there if needed, but would start at DH. The Red Sox asked him if he would play there. He has been working out there for the Red Sox for a month. The Red Sox just had other good options with both Toro and Gonzalez back and hitting really well.

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      • WaitTil2026

        3 weeks ago

        i had heard he was taking ground balls on the left side of the infield, but not first base. Do you have a link for that, Pads?

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          Boston Globe. Chris Cotillo on Twitter and MassLive. Others. For a month now. Started about 10 days after Casas went down with injury.

          He has not taken any infield practice at 3B though. Not a single thing I can find that says that.

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        • WaitTil2026

          3 weeks ago

          Shortstop, not third base… No mention of 1B here?

          masslive.com/redsox/2025/06/why-is-red-sox-rafael-…

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          LMFAO. He didn’t work out as a shortstop, he took a few grounders there on two occasions. He can’t play 3B, let alone shortstop. He did take infield practice at 1B.

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        • WaitTil2026

          3 weeks ago

          Yeah, I know that!!! I do realize he was never going to play SS.

          Still looking for a reference on that infield practice at 1B. I’ve been out of the country for two weeks, so probably missed it. Still catching up.

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        • justkidding

          3 weeks ago

          I heard it mentioned on a tv broadcast, but hadn’t seen it print. but I don’t follow the local boston guys.

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    • redsoxu571

      3 weeks ago

      We can’t know for sure, but reading between the lines Boston has been treating the Devers defensive situation with kid’s gloves for YEARS. Many fans have said he should have been moved years ago, and yet he wasn’t, and when approached with that this spring he declared it was “his decision” and that he is a third baseman.

      It doesn’t take much of a leap to infer that Devers has ALWAYS held that stance, and that this is about his stubborn desire to stick with 3B rather than about how Boston or anyone else approached him regarding a position switch. Even if he felt he had been approached poorly, he had a chance to put his entire team and teammates first in the wake of an unfortunate injury by trying 1B and he basically thumbed his nose at everyone else.

      Again, that proves nothing, but the odds do seem to firmly lean in the direction that he’s one of an uncommon but not super rare group of baseball players with strong positional preferences.

      We also can’t rightly figure that SF simply approached him better about this, as his reaction in the wake of being traded obviously is apples to the oranges of how he responded in the past to a positional change suggestion when sitting comfortably in the only org he’s ever played for.

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      • gbs42

        3 weeks ago

        571,

        I’m confused. If Devers only wants to play 3B, and we can’t say SF approached him better about this, why is he open to playing wherever SF wants him to?

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          Spite.

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        • youngliam

          3 weeks ago

          You’re reaching

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          gbs – 571 isn’t informed about the chain of events, and isn’t even clear when he says “moved”.

          Moved to what? DH? First base?

          FTR – Red Sox Nation wanted Raffy to be a platoon 1B and eventually take over 1B from Casas. That’s where Raffy belongs, Red Sox scouts have been saying that since he signed as a teenager.

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      • noquarter89

        3 weeks ago

        His resistance to changing positions could be justified when it could have affected his earning power. 3Bs get paid better than 1Bs and 1Bs get paid better than DHs. But after he signed that contract, he had no reason other than his ego to continue hurting the team with his terrible defense. Maybe Boston handled the situation poorly, but the fact that it was ever a situation in the first place falls on Devers and his ego.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          no – Prior to this season, WHEN did the Red Sox ever ask him to move to first base? Or even allow him to take reps there?

          But sure, put all the blame only on Raffy if it makes you feel better.

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          I don’t follow them enough to know. They should have done it in the minor leagues. Doesn’t matter. For him in the first place to demand assurances that he wouldn’t be asked to change positions is ridiculous.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          no – Would YOU sign a 10-year contract without knowing what job you’d have for the majority of the contract? And I’m talking about a normal Average Joe $100K/yr contract.

          If he knew they’d demote him to fulltime DH within a couple years, he would have waited until he was a free agent before signing with any team.

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          Well if the only other jobs they would possibly put me in are easier but I’m still getting paid the same and my salary is guaranteed for 10 years? Hell yes. Sign me up.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          no – I think you need to experience having to do a fulltime job you hate in order to understand money isn’t everything.

          I personally found myself in two different jobs I hated, and I left soon after for better jobs that I really enjoyed.

          Why would ANYBODY choose to do a job they dislike when they have other options that allow them to do a job they enjoy?

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          Does he hate baseball? First base and DH are still baseball.

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    • Fisk27

      3 weeks ago

      Immediately after they signed Bregman – he said he was not moving off 3B. This is NOT about how the question was asked. This is about Devers ego. When Papi calls you out — that’s a problem.

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        3 weeks ago

        Manny Ramirez just now blamed the FO so I guess it evens out

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        3 weeks ago

        Fisk – Ortiz has a lifelong contract with the Red Sox. He works for the Red Sox. Influencing the fanbase is literally part of his job. He did what a paid employee is supposed to do, support the employer.

        Meanwhile Manny, who is NOT on the Red Sox payroll (except for the deferred payments from his playing days), absolutely ripped the Red Sox a new one.

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  6. showmebb

    3 weeks ago

    Not worth the money.

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    • TigersLoveCinnamon

      3 weeks ago

      You’re right, but he’d get much more if he were a free agent in the off-season

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      • JackStrawb

        1 week ago

        Doubtful, as he’s hardly being underpaid and he’s really only a DH.

        Still, 4 WAR players even at DH are hard to come by.

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  7. sherlock_

    3 weeks ago

    Yeah we got the funniest timeline BY FAR

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  8. Joemo

    3 weeks ago

    I for one am shocked how things can be different with the right communication. Wow.

    Breslow should hit up Posey for notes.

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    • Joe says...

      3 weeks ago

      Or, as a Yankees fan, I say don’t. Along with the Gerrit Cole household, I’m quite happy to see Devers long gone from Boston.

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      • Joemo

        3 weeks ago

        Cole got the best present from the Red Sox on father’s day ha!

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        • Reggie Smith

          3 weeks ago

          How would anyone know what “communication” was different. Sounds like another Red Sox management hater.

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    • GhostofThomasHamilton

      3 weeks ago

      Ok, you’re just trolling now. Later.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      3 weeks ago

      Not every player is bipolar like devers…

      Bad communication makes devers freak out and good communication makes him reasonable

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    • redsoxu571

      3 weeks ago

      Right communication, or the knowing response to being traded suddenly by the only pro baseball org he’s ever played for, yeah, that’s tomato tomahto obviously!

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      • Joemo

        3 weeks ago

        How many more times do the Red Sox need to run a star player out of town before you realize they are the issue?

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Joe – Exactly! This is the umpteenth time the Red Sox have tried to place the blame on a departed player.

          And yet you NEVER see this sort of thing with other organizations, which is precisely why Pedro recently praised the Yankees for the way they conduct themselves.

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    • noquarter89

      3 weeks ago

      That or he’s just doing it out of spite hahaha

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    • BaseballGuy1

      3 weeks ago

      Hilarious! You are naive if you truly believe that. Giants to Devers… we will trade for you and you will do whatever we need done on the field… and you will not vent to the Media with your opinions. Be forever thankful we got you out of Boston. Boston is thrilled to have the full salary relief and the problem child Devers off the payroll. That contract will not age gracefully, give it two years and it will be upside down.

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        3 weeks ago

        Baseball – He’ll be only 30 in 2 years, and only 36 when the contract expires. Please get informed before insisting things like “contract won’t age gracefully, will be upside down in 2 years”.

        I bet 28 teams would choose the Raffy contract over the Vlad contract.

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  9. freddiemeetgibby

    3 weeks ago

    “He doesn’t even like Mexico”

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    • VegasMoved

      3 weeks ago

      deep cut

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      • freddiemeetgibby

        3 weeks ago

        Yay! Someone got the reference!

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  10. bigbatflip

    3 weeks ago

    That cold, foggy air in SF is going to bring his numbers down, it will be interesting to see how big the impact is.

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    • atuck_sfg

      3 weeks ago

      How so?

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      • redsoxu571

        3 weeks ago

        Fenway is a locked-in top 5 park in terms of most offensive factors, and the career splits for Devers reflects that. He’ll likely see a drop in BA, OBP, etc.

        There are a lot of parks that would have set him up for a HR boost (Fenway quietly not being a great HR park, further indicated by Devers having a good chunk more road HRs than home HRs in his career), but SF suppresses them even more. So he might have traded some measured for more HRs going to most other parks, but SF might put a hit on him across the board.

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        • Jean Matrac

          3 weeks ago

          redsoxu571, You probably won’t see much of a drop in his BA. Factor in singles for LHHs, and both Fenway and Oracle have a PF of 105. For 2Bs, Fenway has a huge advantage, over every park (24 points better than 2nd place PNC), with a PF of 143, to Oracle’s 97, But Oracle is much better for 3Bs with a PF of 126 to Fenway’s 93.

          And if there’s not a big drop in BA, then you probably won’t see one in OBP for obvious reasons. I do expect a slight down turn in HRs. Though Fenway is not as you say much of a HR park, ranking 22nd overall for LHHs, Oracle ranks 27th.

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    • JRamHOF

      3 weeks ago

      He seemed to be okay hitting in Boston in the early spring

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      • Pads Fans

        3 weeks ago

        Devers didn’t hit at all until March 15th, more than a month after he arrived at spring training.

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        • JRamHOF

          3 weeks ago

          I’d be okay dealing with a slow first week of the season if it means the player ends up with a .900 OPS overall

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    • Appalachian_Outlaw

      3 weeks ago

      This is off the MLB site, but I found it interesting as to where Devers would rank if he had played in SF the past few years with the Giants:

      Giants hard-hit rate leaders (plus Devers), 2015-present

      56% // Devers, 2025
      55% // Devers, 2023
      53% // Devers, 2024
      52% // Devers, 2021
      52% // Pederson, 2023
      52% // Pederson, 2022
      51% // Devers, 2022
      49% // Devers, 2019
      48% // Matt Chapman, 2024

      So, I don’t think his HRs will take a huge dip. He might lose some doubles and points off the BA and SLG, but I don’t think it’ll be pronounced.

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      • CardsFan57

        3 weeks ago

        He muted me over the loss of cable revenue not being a good thing so I can’t respond to him. He didn’t hit until March 15th in spring training. Is that a serious comment?

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          Devers didn’t not take the field.in a live ST games for mose of the preseason, that is correct. I don’t know the exact date, but it was late.

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  11. Super2

    3 weeks ago

    That’s what a great teammate and clubhouse guy does!

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  12. Pads Fans

    3 weeks ago

    He has been taking infield practice with the Red Sox for nearly a month. He was the worst defensive 3B in the game, so he will mostly DH. Is any of this a surprise?

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  13. DodgerDan

    3 weeks ago

    Giants ownership asking the right way and not the dumb way Boston handles star players

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    • GhostofThomasHamilton

      3 weeks ago

      The same words were asked either way ya dope. Devers is apparently a very sensitive gentleman.

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        3 weeks ago

        So then what’s changed Ghost?

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          He’s doing out of spite haha

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      • King. Of. Cards

        3 weeks ago

        Its not the words its that the Red Sox went and signed Bregman. Once they did that Devers was mad.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          Devers arrived at spring training on February 10th overweight and unable to play any position because of injuries to both shoulders. He couldn’t even hit in a game until March 15th, let alone play a position.

          The Red Sox signed Bregman partially because Devers was injured and would be unable to start the season at 3B. The other part was that Devers absolutely stunk at playing defense at 3B. Worst in MLB.

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        • King. Of. Cards

          3 weeks ago

          Yeah he was so hurt that he hasn’t missed a game all year and has performed great.

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        • redsoxu571

          3 weeks ago

          Did you black out during the start of the regular season when he struggled mightily? Began 0-for-19 with 4 BBs to 15 Ks, and had a .657 OPS on April 24th. To little surprise, he got going and has been great ever since, but he definitely had to get over the lingering effects of how spring training went for him.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          At DH. Do you enjoy being wrong all the time Joel?

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        • King. Of. Cards

          3 weeks ago

          He’s having a season that’s better than his career average. Thats his SEASON numbers not some cherry picked numbers like you came up with.

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      • Boston’s Alignment

        3 weeks ago

        90% of communication is non verbal.
        What up dude?

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  14. Mustard Tiger

    3 weeks ago

    What a dick. Good riddance, loser.

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    • Steinbrenner2728

      3 weeks ago

      The Giants currently have a better record than the Red Sox…

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      • dirtyjog

        3 weeks ago

        OK….what does that have to do with Devers being a loser

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      • GhostofThomasHamilton

        3 weeks ago

        What does that have do with with Devers being a enormous man baby?

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        • dirtyjog

          3 weeks ago

          Oh I agree – I’m just saying Giants record has nothing to do with Devers being a turd

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      3 weeks ago

      Maybe Devers wanted a shot at the post-season?

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    • gbs42

      3 weeks ago

      Mustard,

      Which member of Boston ownership/front office are you referring to?

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  15. AL B DAMNED

    3 weeks ago

    Will take reps at 1st base but
    No longer take batting practice!

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  16. damascusj

    3 weeks ago

    Watch, Xander bogaerts 2.0

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    • straightuphonestguy

      3 weeks ago

      Not even close, sadly. I’d take Devers > Bogaerts ten times out of ten, even if Devers was only DHing.

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  17. MeowMeow

    3 weeks ago

    Lmaoooo

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  18. StudWinfield

    3 weeks ago

    I guess Boston didn’t give him the proper reach around when they asked him.

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    • Boston’s Alignment

      3 weeks ago

      Describe proper reach around! I am unfamiliar with such activities.

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      • StudWinfield

        3 weeks ago

        Alexa or Siri can help you with that.

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        • TigersLoveCinnamon

          3 weeks ago

          Alexa told me she’d rather not answer that

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      • AL B DAMNED

        3 weeks ago

        He should have asked to play SS or 2nd.
        If he’s playing 1st or 3rd and does a reach around, there is a coach behind him.
        If he’s playing SS or 2nd, he can
        reach around himself!

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  19. HopefulTwinsFan

    3 weeks ago

    So he cries about playing first in Boston but happily moves forward with it in San Fran? Must’ve just been a damaged ego about Boston bringing in Bregman all along… Who the heck knows? Dumb.

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    • Joemo

      3 weeks ago

      It’s almost like Devers would have done the same in Boston if the front office didn’t repeatedly throw him under the bus and lie to him 😱

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    • redsoxu571

      3 weeks ago

      Perhaps his ego was damaged by the trade? That’s a very human reason to do an about face like this.

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    • AL B DAMNED

      3 weeks ago

      What if the Giants go after a
      1st baseman at the trade deadline?

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  20. AngryRacoon

    3 weeks ago

    Devers is a piece of crap. I don’t care how good he is. He was asked by the Red Sox to work out at first and he refused. Not a team player. I hope he fails miserable. Good riddance.

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    • Steinbrenner2728

      3 weeks ago

      Apparently the Giants knew how to request the position change more than the Red Sox did. Glad he left Boston, if he stays good, even better.

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      • GhostofThomasHamilton

        3 weeks ago

        Or apparently Devers is a big pouting man baby.

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      • redsoxu571

        3 weeks ago

        You either don’t know what the word “apparently” means or else you have to brush up on your deductive reasoning skills, because there is nothing apparent about this situation.

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    • Boston’s Alignment

      3 weeks ago

      You’re angry ✅
      You don’t know how to spell raccoon ✅

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      • foppert3

        3 weeks ago

        Ha ha. That’s very good. Well done.

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  21. VegasMoved

    3 weeks ago

    On one hand, I respect the troll. On the other hand, makes me moreso side with the Red Sox on this one: Devers was deliberately being difficult out of spite. Childish behavior.

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    • Mets Era Thumping Soto

      3 weeks ago

      Yes the Red Sox did act childish on how they treated their star player.

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    • GhostofThomasHamilton

      3 weeks ago

      Makes me far more psyched he’s gone. Fat, dumb and petty is no way to go through life,

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      • Mets Era Thumping Soto

        3 weeks ago

        Isn’t your comment just as petty?

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          Mets – Ghost is semi quoting/paraphrasing what Dean Wormer said… if you get the reference, you know.

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    • redsoxu571

      3 weeks ago

      I land in between on this one. I think he’s always been a bit selfish about wanting to stay at 3B, which is why Boston has seemingly always handled the talk about that with care. Understandable, though not the team-first mindset fans prefer to see.

      Maybe he cared more than anyone realized and was petulant in even his initial response to being approached to finally make a positional change, or maybe he was approached less than ideally (e.g. too bluntly), but either way it never would have been a problem if he didn’t put his personal positional desires first, right?

      It’s rather presumptive to just assume that some of his response isn’t justified (which would keep this from being childish), but somewhere along the way he definitely has his part to blame in this – and it’s possible that the whole blame lies with him, though that too is far too big a leap to fairly presume.

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      • noquarter89

        3 weeks ago

        If he cared so much about playing third base he should have been better at it.

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          No quarter- or, you know, get something in writing….

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          Any GM would laugh Devers’ agent out of the building if they tried to contractually require him to stay at 3B.

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        • Cedric Lee

          3 weeks ago

          Sure but looking at what cora said, they acknowledge that they made that promise to him but are now saying it’s not valid cuz the old GM got fired. That’s not right or at least not the right way to say it. They spend all off-season telling everyone that he’ll play third and said bregman would play second if they signed him. They sign bregman then all of a sudden they tell devers to stfu and dh. He eventually agrees then they tell him to play 1b. Not that these are outrageous requests given the circumstances, but they’ve been jerking him around for the last 4-5 months and trashing him in the media for a dumb situation that they created with poor communication and lies. It should be expected that he responds in kind.

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        • all in the suit that you wear

          3 weeks ago

          David Ortiz said Devers still should have put his ego away and done what was best for the team. I’ll take his word for it.

          “As a player, sometimes you’ve got to put your ego aside and understand that once you get paid, you’ve got to find a way to do what you’re told.”

          nesn.com/2025/06/how-david-ortiz-reacted-after-red…

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Noq – Yeah the only thing funnier would be if a team gave him a $300M third baseman contract! Hahahaha!!!!

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          There’s no such thing as a “third baseman contract.” He got a contract to play baseball.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 weeks ago

          Noq – Obviously I didn’t mean it literally. The size of the contract was clearly based on the assumption he would play 3B, even Cora said so.

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  22. ueckerlele

    3 weeks ago

    I love this level of petty.

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    • braveshomer

      3 weeks ago

      That’s exactly how I took it at first lol….Clearly being next level petty and it’s pretty funny

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  23. HiredGun23

    3 weeks ago

    “Insubordinate…and churlish”

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  24. m34josh

    3 weeks ago

    Got to meet Barry Bonds, has a huge smile on his face, and is going to wear Joe Montana’s number. Going to be a fan favorite, and jersey sales are going to be through the roof! #BeatLA

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    • goob

      3 weeks ago

      Also: #BeatSnakes and #BeatPriests

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  25. ArianaGrandSlam

    3 weeks ago

    Do we have Sox vs Giants series left this year?

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    • elmedius

      3 weeks ago

      This weekend

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    • m34josh

      3 weeks ago

      Yep, starts Friday

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    • chandlerbing

      3 weeks ago

      in boston tho?

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  26. hiflew

    3 weeks ago

    The only thing I regret is that when the Giants play the Red Sox this weekend that it will not be in Boston. I know Red Sox fans will still boo the hell out of him next year in Fenway, but it could have been one of the loudest boos of all time if it happened this week.

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    • Joemo

      3 weeks ago

      Any Sox fan booing him isn’t an actual Sox fan.

      Boo the front office for trading another superstar for peanuts.

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      • hiflew

        3 weeks ago

        But no problem with that superstar refusing to do something with Boston, but doing it immediately with his new team?

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        • Joemo

          3 weeks ago

          Nope. Red Sox dug themselves into this hole.

          All they had to do was communicate with Devers.

          “Hey Raffy, we are adding a great RHB and gold glove winner. He plays 3B. We’d like for you to be the primary DH, and keep your glove ready so we can filter others through the DH spot while keeping your bat in the lineup.”

          They lied to him about being the long term 3B. Lied to him about being the full-time DH. Lied to him about not playing defense anymore.

          No reason to defend the team when they keep doing this kind of thing.

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        • andymeyer

          3 weeks ago

          And no reason to defend a ball player who wasn’t mature enough to keep it in house. And no reason to defend a ball player who refused to do what was best for the team at the time. Both parties blew this one

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          Joe – to be fair, we weren’t there to know exactly how things were said. We’ve got qualifiers added to things filtered at least twice by interpreters.

          If Casas wasn’t hurt, I can guarantee nobody was asking him to try learning 1B mid-season. There’s a difference between being lied to, and, business needs changing due to unforeseeable events. The approaching about 1B, in private, was the latter. And, the team dropped it when Raffy refused. It was Raffy that blew it up with the press, not the front office…

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        • Joemo

          3 weeks ago

          GA – it’s the FO’s job to be prepared for these “unforeseeable events”. They should be planning ahead and constructing a roster in such a way that it can deal with injuries, or that they have the ability to acquire players to fill the holes that come up through the season.

          Why not have Devers learn 1B during the off-season, when there’s ample time to do so?

          If he’s so bad at defense that the team says he’s not playing defense again, why would they suddenly ask him to play defense again? They should find someone who they think is better defensively.

          And just like that Devers smokes one into the gap. Let’s go.

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        • andymeyer

          3 weeks ago

          It’s also the ballplayer’s job to be prepared to step up and help the team wherever necessary, regardless of his defensive shortcomings.. More so when you’re paid to be the supposed face of the franchise. “It’s my position”. As selfish as it gets

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          Joe, there’s reports devers was asked to take 1b reps and refused. Is it accurate? Who knows. We don’t know of everything devers said is accurate either.

          Breslow has been working to undo the incredibly unbalanced roster he inherited, that’s for certain. But you can’t just dump everyone and print new money, trades require takers, and, slot of deals were badly underwater where even shipping a guy out wouldntve freed the necessary payroll to bring in the balanced upgrade.

          It was so poorly managed at the mlb level it’s going to be a 2-3 year project to get sorted, and, we’re finally seeing some daylight

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      • redsoxu571

        3 weeks ago

        Makes blanket declaration for how fans need to operate – troll check one.

        Blatantly exaggerates about the return in the trade – troll check two.

        If it looks like a troll and sounds like a troll!

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      • Appalachian_Outlaw

        3 weeks ago

        BoSox fans are going to boo him because that’s their team, and they’re going to support their team even when the team is partially to blame for this; which is their right.

        Breslow is an absolutely awful communicator though based on numerous things that have come out, and that is going to hurt that team in the long run. Players aren’t going to want to play there unless it’s an overpay on the contract.

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    • lamars

      3 weeks ago

      You’re an idiot if you think Sox fans would boo Devers. The fan base is already in an uproar over the trade.

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  27. cooperhill

    3 weeks ago

    Hitting the treadmill would help, too!

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    • Steinbrenner2728

      3 weeks ago

      At least he can play at that weight unlike yourself.

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  28. gbs42

    3 weeks ago

    Amazing how so many are ready to put the blame solely on Devers. Sure, there’s plenty of blame to go around, but Boston’s front office and ownership deserve their fair share.

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    • WaitTil2026

      3 weeks ago

      “But then, I guess we know there’s blame to share
      And none of it seems to matter anymore”

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    • Pads Fans

      3 weeks ago

      Only blame belongs on Devers.

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      • Boston’s Alignment

        3 weeks ago

        No. The front office continues to fail at the single most important thing. Leadership.
        There is a never ending leadership void.

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    • redsoxu571

      3 weeks ago

      That’s a ridiculous claim, given how many people are dumping most or all of the blame on the Red Sox.

      There is an avenue here in which the Red Sox are an equal partner to blame in this, certainly. But even if then approached this poorly, none of it happens if Devers has the team-first mindset that we celebrate with many players and is fair to expect when a guy gets paid the big bucks.

      But there is also an avenue here (and we’ll never know for sure) in which Devers IS entirely to blame. If he’s always been selfish about staying at 3B, that means there was no good way for Boston to approach this, and that also would mean his stubborn initial reaction and then petulant response to considering 1B when Casas got hurt was all of his making.

      If we’re left guessing between a mixed bag of blame and primarily/total player blame, yeah, the player should get the greater focus. But it is unfair of anyone to straight up dump all the blame on him.

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  29. dirtyjog

    3 weeks ago

    I was devastated Sunday (and at the game!), but more I read the more I understand it. Still think the contract is a relative bargain in comparison to other mega contracts, but also happy to be out from under it. Mayer-Story-Campbell-Casas infield next year, Duran/Anthony/Abreu outfield (barring trades).

    I’m happy with that core, as long as the plan isn’t to string us along the next 3 years and then trade Anthony….

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    • WaitTil2026

      3 weeks ago

      That works if Casas can get healthy and stay healthy.

      Arias might be the next infielder coming along? Or Blaze Jordan if he can make good.

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    • Pads Fans

      3 weeks ago

      That is kinda stupid. $29.2 million AAV for a DH is insane.

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      • Boston’s Alignment

        3 weeks ago

        Not for SF it isn’t.
        The Devers deal is infinitely less risky than both Machado and Bogaerts deals.

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        • Pads Fans

          3 weeks ago

          No. No its not. Devers is fat. That doesn’t age well. ALL he can do is hit. His defense was the worst in baseball at 3B. He injured both shoulders and that prevented him from even swing a bat until Mid March.

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        • straightuphonestguy

          3 weeks ago

          Devers’ deal is less risky in total value than Machado’s, but also far less upside through their early-mid 30s. No one should be defending the Bogaerts deal at this point.

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    • redsoxu571

      3 weeks ago

      FYI, the contract isn’t a relative bargain. Some have tried to sell that claim, but they’re misrepresenting the value of Devers’s bat to do so.

      A good example: the career high OPS+ for Devers in a full season is 142. Juan Soto, meanwhile, has been perceived as having a down year for him…a down year that is still good for a 144 OPS+, better than the career high for Devers. Last year, Soto lapped the Devers best with his 179.

      In other words, Devers is a true “elite” bat, but not the “superstar” bat some have tried to assign to him. He’s more a reliable excellent middle-of-the-order guy than a true monster, which is precisely why Soto got paid that much more (we’re talking career 159 OPS+ versus career 129).

      That he’s a reliable high-end bat is why it wasn’t crazy to give him that contract. That he’s not a superstar bat AND has negative defensive value is why that contract should have been easily passed by better hitters/players.

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  30. YankeesBleacherCreature

    3 weeks ago

    I’m glad Devers found his gloves.

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  31. Ezpkns34

    3 weeks ago

    It’s moves like this that will get someone into the Trolling HOF

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  32. foppert3

    3 weeks ago

    Good work, Raffy. Get in tight with the boys and let’s go !

    Early days, but the more snippets I hear about the Eldridge defence, the more I suspect DH might be on the cards.

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    • m34josh

      3 weeks ago

      Or move him back to the OF where he used to play

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      • foppert3

        3 weeks ago

        Ok. Didn’t know that was in his history. Wonder why they didn’t go there from day 1

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        • goob

          3 weeks ago

          His footspeed is below average…not good for an outfielder.

          I think the kid is going make himself a good 1st baseman. But it’s going to take time and a LOT of reps – especially since he’s both very young and learning the position for the first time as a pro.

          From what I’ve heard, he’s confident – and very determined to master the position. I think he will.

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      • John Bird

        3 weeks ago

        He was even worse in the outfield.

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  33. TooToughToScuffle

    3 weeks ago

    Man with the ego is John Henry. It’s not Devers fault Boston has had one playoff appearance since 2018

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    • redsoxu571

      3 weeks ago

      How is that about anyone’s ego?

      Boston missed the playoffs in 2019 despite bringing most everyone back from the 2018 championship. Can’t fault ownership there.

      The franchise clearly wanted to rework things, which takes a few seasons, and that led to one ALCS and 3 missed playoffs (a couple of which happened in some all-time-loaded divisions). Ego, or just being willing to pull back temporarily in the hopes that it pays off?

      Things were supposed to be on the uptick by 2023, and that that didn’t happen is probably why Bloom was fired. Is it ego to look to a guy to do something and then fire him when that doesn’t seem to be happening?

      The team started to form identity and have some players emerge as potential core guys in 2024 in Breslow’s first year, but a number of bad breaks prevented a potential step forward in W-L record. Still not seeing the “ego” here, just a reworked process that hasn’t yet blossomed (and might not) but currently has the franchise stocked with a lot of young talent and a solid overall team and financial flexibility, which could easily be the foundation of the next winner.

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  34. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    3 weeks ago

    It astounds me when players like Devers are clearly a liability on a short sighted mega contract and then some other team just willy nilly takes that player off the hands of the team that made that bad decision in the first place.

    8 years left on what is a bloated deal- even with the 10 years and $75M in deferrals….

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    • foppert3

      3 weeks ago

      The only mystery is why fans think it’s a mystery the Giants would take on that contract. Have you followed the Giants history in trying to get a player like that ?

      The other point of note is that it ends when he is 36. Not at 40. The deal is fine in general. For the Giants needs, it is positively outstanding.

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      • Boston’s Alignment

        3 weeks ago

        BULLSEYE!

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      • redsoxu571

        3 weeks ago

        Right. Most teams would balk at taking on the full contract of an imperfect player who was having a problem with his prior team, but SF has been hunting the big name add for years. Plus, they really really could use the sort of bat with the power to defy the drag of their ballpark. Devers isn’t a slam dunk, but it makes all the sense in the world for SF to take this shot.

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        • SportsFan0000

          3 weeks ago

          And, if Devers is happy an dproducing in SF, then it opens the door to attracting other significant free agent players,

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  35. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    3 weeks ago

    Hockey players dive face first in front of 100 mph slapshots for their teammates and teams.

    No sale on the “they didn’t ask him NICELY enough” stuff.

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    • Steinbrenner2728

      3 weeks ago

      Hockey players wear padding and helmets in an indoor environment.

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      • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

        3 weeks ago

        And it’s played on ice.

        Safe to say you missed the point.

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  36. chandlerbing

    3 weeks ago

    “They’re the men in charge,” Devers said today, “I’m here to play wherever they want me to play.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    • GASoxFan

      3 weeks ago

      He learned a lesson or two this spring… finally.

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    • Pads Fans

      3 weeks ago

      That is because Posey doesn’t put up with any garbage. He is likely to have told him straight up, “we won’t put up with that garbage you pulled in Boston. You will play where we ask you to play or you will hit the restricted list”.

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      • foppert3

        3 weeks ago

        Ha ha. Oh dear. The ignorance. Ummmmm…… that’s not likely at all.

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      • lamars

        3 weeks ago

        LOL! Yeah bro, that’s not how that works. – Nice story though.

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      3 weeks ago

      Chandler-I came here to see this. Wish it was the first comment. “I just do what the boss tells me”HAHAHAHAHA

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  37. cheesemanforever

    3 weeks ago

    Listen for the sound of Sox fans’ heads exploding

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  38. aLifetimeOfDefeats

    3 weeks ago

    LOL

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  39. Astros_fan_in_Aus

    3 weeks ago

    He can’t field ground balls at third, how is he going to scoop low throws at first ? This is going to be hilarious.

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    • foppert3

      3 weeks ago

      Geez. Let me think. Got it. He’ll work at it until it’s comfortable. If it doesn’t get comfortable after a certain period of time, he won’t play there. Unless you get to there practice, I don’t think you are going to get to laugh.

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    • GASoxFan

      3 weeks ago

      He can block them like a hockey puck.

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    • goob

      3 weeks ago

      @Astros_fan_in_Aus

      Devers might well have thought the very same thing.

      Its not inconceivable to me though, that with enough practice, a guy who struggles at the hot corner could learn to scoop throws to 1st base.

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    • noquarter89

      3 weeks ago

      Plenty of bad defensive 3Bs move across the diamond to be decent 1Bs. It’s not uncommon.

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    • all in the suit that you wear

      3 weeks ago

      Devers may mess up his shoulders again by diving for ground balls.

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  40. Primitive Screwhead

    3 weeks ago

    This is so goddamned funny.

    “Play first for us, please, Casas’ leg exploded.”

    “Get rekt.”

    “Play first for the Giants?”

    “OK”

    Pretty clear Boston had to move him, the relationship was completely poisoned.

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  41. Poolhalljunkies

    3 weeks ago

    I hope he plays 1b vs Boston Friday and one of his former teammates punches him in the face at his new position.

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    • larkraxm

      3 weeks ago

      I hope that happens as well, and the lack of discipline or direction in Boston is further on display as one of their players is arrested and booked on assault charges. It’s clear that Boston is not the place to sign a FA contract.

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      • Poolhalljunkies

        3 weeks ago

        That might happen..and you seem to not know much about free agents..they like big markets and always take the money…well except SF.but yeah sure lol charge someone with assault for a baseball fight ..lol you are a joke for going there

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        • larkraxm

          3 weeks ago

          Punching somebody in the face at 1B is not a “baseball fight”. That is assault. The joke was you suggesting that would be in any way justifiable.

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  42. Steelers 6x

    3 weeks ago

    Nothing a couple fastballs in the back won’t take care of over the weekend. Just keep the ball below the head, take the ejection and win a couple games BoSox.

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      3 weeks ago

      That would be pretty telling. Nothing says good riddance like drilling a guy in the ribs. If he was playing first someone could slide into first and cleat him. Ty Cobb style.

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  43. semut

    3 weeks ago

    Red Sox Devers: “I am here to play 3rd, I don’t want to play 1st, I don’t want to DH. This org screwed me over, I signed to play 3rd etc etc

    Giants Devers: I am willing to play wherever they need me, it doesn’t matter to me at all. I will give 100% wherever

    lol

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    • O'sSayCanYouSee

      3 weeks ago

      Red Sox : We need to sign you to the largest contract extension in Team history before you become a free agent.

      Devers : I like to hear that, but I wanna play 3rd base.

      Red Sox : Yeah dude, totally. Anything you want. You’re our future. You’re on a HOF track, and after Mookie…well, anything you want. Just don’t become a Free Agent, spend your whole career with us!

      Devers : Heck yeah! (Signs extension)

      (Red Sox start looking for 3rd basemen in 2year of extension.)

      Devers : We good fellas? Need me to practice 1st base?

      Red Sox : No! What?! You’re our 3rd baseman. Bregman gonna play 2nd base. Our word is gold, trust us.

      Spring Training

      Red Sox : Just kidding, no 3rd or 1st, just DH.

      Devers : Bro, you’ve had every chance to work with me, your top paid player in Franchise history, and now not playing in the field at all??

      Red Sox : Hey, you act like you have a choice. Contract baby. Shut up and Red Sox, baby.

      Devers : Okay…I got ya’. Cool cool. Appreciate that.

      Red Sox : Umm….about 1st base.

      Devers : oh yeah?! Want me to wear a tu-tu also??

      Red Sox : We paid you 300 million, so, actually, yeah, the tu-tu is a nice touch. Now you get it sucka!

      Devers : ….

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      • goob

        3 weeks ago

        Well played!

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      • WadeBoggsWildRide

        3 weeks ago

        You really have to go deep into the comments to find the gems.

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  44. runningwithnailclippers

    3 weeks ago

    I think the worse thing about Devers is that he chews tobacco. When will they ban that crap in the dugout or on the field? It’s gross and causes cancer. Plus, I am surprised MLB ownership hasn’t banned it in the dugout, too. It doesn’t look good for the game (as they seem to be focused on the games “image” nowadays). I should also list his postives to keep it fair: he plays sterling defense at third base and has led the league there in errors since 2018. 🙂

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      3 weeks ago

      Mom I told you to stay off the baseball message boards you’re embarrassing me.

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      • runningwithnailclippers

        3 weeks ago

        ChickenMan/WadeBoggs: When are you going to finally clean your room? Do you need grounded?

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        • WadeBoggsWildRide

          3 weeks ago

          Aw Mooooooooom!

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    • semut

      3 weeks ago

      They did ban it in 2016 or 2017 for new players. Existing players are allowed to still chew though as long as they were already in the league by 2016.

      That being said, I highly HIGHLY doubt it’s ever enforced mom

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  45. Rsox

    3 weeks ago

    So Breslow and Cora were supposed to kiss his a** but Posey and Melvin are “the men in charge”? Good riddance…

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    • Acoss1331

      3 weeks ago

      Honestly, 31m a year for 10 years, you just play along. Look at Trout and Baez moving positions, made themselves look good in front of their teammates.

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  46. straightuphonestguy

    3 weeks ago

    I’m late on this whole thing, but LMAO. SF made a great pickup. The Sox do get a lot of financial flexibility back, but that means very little in 2025.

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    • straightuphonestguy

      3 weeks ago

      Also, why didn’t Boston trade him in 2023? I know people will say Betts, different PBO, etc., but he’s still functionally the same player he was back then. It speaks to a lack of organizational vision from ownership. They seemed scared to wear the black eye again when trading another homegrown star away, but they weren’t that high on him, either. Strange dealings.

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  47. ccsilvia

    3 weeks ago

    You’d like to think his reasoning for now being open to 1B is that he’s been humbled by the trade. But it’s much more likely that he’s continuing to be a petulant child and spiting the Red Sox by doing so.

    Either way, not Boston’s problem anymore. Hopefully they use the savings wisely.

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    • Reynaldo's

      3 weeks ago

      Good point; everything he’s done thus far points to being a petulant child who hasn’t emotionally matured, with bad character makeup and low IQ.

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  48. hunteralan

    3 weeks ago

    “Devers was insulted that Campbell volunteered to step up and do that work, “interpreting it as a slight to his own stature”

    That says it all. Fragile ego prima donna, but he knew he was in the wrong.

    Along with the reports that the youngsters couldn’t approach him for advice/help/support, Sox had no choice but to dump him. Man, the Sox screwed up this whole Betts/Bogaerts/Devers situation.

    Personally, I hope Devers crashes and burns.

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    • straightuphonestguy

      3 weeks ago

      This is the one item that made him look like a jackass. I get him feeling jerked around by the team, but you don’t get to play the solidarity card when holding out, and it’s especially rude to do it to a young rookie.

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    • noquarter89

      3 weeks ago

      Yeah this snippet destroys any possible sympathy one could have for Devers if true. Your job is to WIN GAMES and you expect other players to deliberately hold out of playing a needed position out of solidarity to your ego? That’s next level diva behavior.

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      • straightuphonestguy

        3 weeks ago

        I still sympathize with him for the slowplay and backpedaling from Boston management, but I’m not about letting that spill over toward your teammates.

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          Boston handled the situation poorly but the fact that there was a situation in the first place still falls on Devers. As soon as he signed that contract he should have happily volunteered to move across the diamond.

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        • straightuphonestguy

          3 weeks ago

          I disagree. If the PBO promises him a position at the time, that’s on the PBO, or in this case, the rest of the ownership/leadership, for not properly managing expectations. It feels like lip service when barely into Y2 of the extension, they pull the rug on the guy. They sign a 3B, assure him it’s nothing (“he’ll play 2B”), tell him he sucks at 3B (valid baseball decision, btw, just conveyed terribly) and the rest of the field so now you’re full-time DH, and uh, whoops, the 1B just went down, can you take the field now (“forget what we just said”)! Just unbelievably bad messaging sent from the top. Why not shift him to 1B and bump Casas to DH initially? There were so many better ways to handle this.

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          My point is, it’s a promise he had no business asking for. He plays some of the worst defense in the league at one of the most important positions on the diamond. Position changes are a part of baseball, bad defensive 3Bs get moved across the diamond all the time. His resistance to the change was justifiable when it could have affected his earning power, as 3Bs get paid better. But once he signed that contract the only thing stopping from immediately making the team better by moving was his ego.

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          To answer your question… Casas knew and was established at 1B. Devers had never touched it.

          Why would you bump the experienced guy for an unknown quantity except to massage an ego? (Which, shouldn’t be the focus when dealing with constructing a lineup.)

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          Also true…. though it would have also given them the flexibility to shop Casas for pitching which they need desperately. He would have been a valuable trade asset before the injury.

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        • GASoxFan

          3 weeks ago

          They shopped Casas without having made the move. They couldn’t get a taker they wanted, closest was SEA offering Castillo for him, at which point breslow wanted to include yoshida due to the lower quality return.

          Then it fell apart.

          Their bargaining position would actually be *weaker* when Casas had less fit.

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        • straightuphonestguy

          3 weeks ago

          Casas is a 2 win guy over 900 PAs in 4 seasons. He’s a worthwhile bat to keep around, but if DHing him keeps Devers happy, I would live with whatever runs I lose at 1B (and Casas isn’t a good defensive 1B).

          Boston flubbed this by not negotiating in good faith. If they had been upfront with their plans for Bregman from the get-go, maybe they could’ve salvaged this. Maybe they just wanted to get out from under the contract? You would know better than me.

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        • straightuphonestguy

          3 weeks ago

          For all we know, it was a handhake agreement for the negotiated terms. You obviously can’t stipulate a position/refusal to change positions contractually, but maybe something like that greases the wheel in a small way (AAV/deferrals amount). It wouldn’t be enforceable, but Devers probably thought he deserved to be treated better after being in the org for over a decade.

          You can look at the whole position change in SF being spiteful, but maybe he would’ve done it in Boston if management communicated its intentions upfront. They peed on his leg and told him it was raining w.r.t. Bregman signing.

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        • noquarter89

          3 weeks ago

          They improved one of the team’s biggest weaknesses with the Bregman signing. If Devers cared so much about playing third base, he should have been better at it.

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  49. Alan53

    3 weeks ago

    L, as they say, OL.

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  50. Quinnap89

    3 weeks ago

    “They’re the guys in charge” I’ll play wherever is needed. Wow I guess that attitude changed when he hit California lol

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    • noquarter89

      3 weeks ago

      He’s just being petty lol

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      3 weeks ago

      It’s the bright sun and blue skies.

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  51. Fisk27

    3 weeks ago

    When you’re the worst defensive third baseman in the ML and a team signs the best – you move. His ego didn’t allow it. Take a look in the mirror my man. You’re not good over there.

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  52. jakeabbey05

    3 weeks ago

    “I’m here to play wherever they want me to play.”
    What a team-first guy, that Devers. (cough,cough).

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    • rocky7

      3 weeks ago

      Yet when the Sox signed him to a massive extension….did they ever bring up that they might want him to move to DH or 1b or didn’t value his defense at 3rd……..no…but Dever is the bad guy here….

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      • GASoxFan

        3 weeks ago

        Rocky, didn’t know you sat in on the meetings between the sox and devers agent. What else did you see firsthand?

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      • Free Palestine

        3 weeks ago

        Rocky they don’t have to bring it up when they pay him millions of dollars. That’s how teams work in all team sports. You do what’s best for the team. His defense sucks he should move. Everyone knows that end of story. If he was good defensively, he would have an argument, but he’s not so he has no argument. Not when you make hundreds of millions of dollars

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  53. casualfan

    3 weeks ago

    What a jerk. Glad the Sox got rid of him and somehow managed to not only dump the entire contract buy got more then magic beans in return.
    Sox will take the $20 mil or so saved(less the contracts coming back) and lock up one or two of the young guys for a few years or reach out and grab some more pitching.

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  54. noquarter89

    3 weeks ago

    His xwSPITE is 100th percentile!

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  55. R.D.

    3 weeks ago

    My biggest takeaway- Breslow seems like he has the charisma of a saltine

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  56. Reynaldo's

    3 weeks ago

    Is Devers the Jimmy Butler of the MLB?

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  57. yankswang

    3 weeks ago

    Red sox fans crying

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  58. SportsFan0000

    3 weeks ago

    Another completely botched player relationship by the Red Sox Ownership.

    The Red Sox Devers royal screw up has John Henry, Sam Kennedy and Alex Cora written all over it.
    Memo to Red Sox Ownership,(John Henry) Front Office(Sam Kennedy) and Manager (Alex Cora)

    You cannot blame: Theo Epstein, Ben Cherrington, Dave Dombrowski, Mike Hazen, Chaim Bloom etc…for this major mismanagement of and alienation OF ANOTHER Red Sox star player etc…

    Bad player relations and ham handed handling of player relationships seem to be the ‘MO” for the Red Sox ballclub.

    But, the backbiting and passing the buck on Devers has already started with Alex Cora openly trying to blame Chaim Bloom instead of taking some responsibility for what has happened.

    Next up, the Red Sox Media and PR machine will try to make Craig Breslow the next Red Sox scapegoat?!

    Too Much drama in Boston.

    Free agents will look at this and not be putting the Red Sox at the top of their lists for long term free agent signings and career destinations,

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    • HBan22

      3 weeks ago

      Management handled this badly, but so did Devers. Both things can be true.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        3 weeks ago

        It’s pretty much what David Ortiz said and he didn’t mince his words even though he owns fractional shares of the Red Sox. He even called out his buddy ARod.

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  59. RickEO

    3 weeks ago

    Clown. Lazy one at that

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  60. ghostofmookiebetts

    3 weeks ago

    “I think that’s the identity, this relentless pursuit of winning, that we’re looking for.”

    Perhaps breslow and the rest of the front office should lead by example. I would call his tenure thus far hardly relentless.

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  61. SportsFan0000

    3 weeks ago

    Phillies owner John Middleton expressed gratitude for the Boston Red Sox firing Dave Dombrowski, stating it led to Dombrowski joining the Phillies and ultimately contributing to their success. Middleton was puzzled by the Red Sox’s decision to let go of Dombrowski, especially after he led them to a World Series title. He specifically mentioned that he needed to reassure Dombrowski that he wouldn’t be treated similarly in Philadelphia

    That is the Red Sox known “MO”.

    Mistreat valuable/key employees.
    Damage the relationship.
    Force a resolution (Trade, Firing, Requesting Trades, Walking away from Red Sox etc…).

    Then, Scapegoat, Trash, Blame the vicitims of the mistreatment by the Red Sox.

    Rinse, Repeat etc…

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    • andymeyer

      3 weeks ago

      “Mistreat valuable/key employees”

      Yes, my heartaches for $300 million dollar ball players when they complain about being mistreated and lied to. Grow up

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      • SportsFan0000

        3 weeks ago

        Money is only part of the equation. It is also about the relationships, the teamwork, the pride in working towards a mutual goal and more. It is built on trust, integrity, mutual interests. If the player finds out that you lied and then have an organized media campaign to blame the player for all the problems and drama, then it is not unreasonable for the player to feel betrayed, pissed off and not want to continue with that org.

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      • Steinbrenner2728

        3 weeks ago

        I sense a hint of jealousy from you, andymeyer.

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        • flamingbagofpoop

          3 weeks ago

          Stop projecting

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      3 weeks ago

      I love seeing dumb Philly fans call Dombrowski Dumbrowski and complain about having one of the best GMs in baseball leading a winning organization sustainably for years. At least Dodgers fans know they have a gem in Friedman.

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  62. Informed Sportsball Discussion

    3 weeks ago

    “They’re the men in charge,” Devers said today, per Chris Cotillo of MassLive. “I’m here to play wherever they want me to play.”

    Lol. He’s trolling the Red Sox now. That’s pretty funny.

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  63. goob

    3 weeks ago

    I think RS fans are going to end up being very happy with the return on this trade…even though it may a year or two to get there.

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  64. Well said.

    3 weeks ago

    What you have is a story about compliance. The Red Sox were paying the big bucks and they expected a team player who will do whatever they ask for the good of the team. Had he done that he would still be in Boston. He’s lucky that he had a big contract otherwise he might be Colorado or Miami. If he had any options left he should have been sent down for an attitude adjustment. Time will tell how this deal works out but I expect the Giants to regret it at some point.

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      3 weeks ago

      Red Sox: here’s $300M

      Devers: I just don’t see myself as a leader.

      Red Sox: uh oh …

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  65. JayRyder

    3 weeks ago

    WIN !!!!!!!

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  66. angt222

    3 weeks ago

    That’s ironic.

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  67. Cornhusker262

    3 weeks ago

    Devers is a flat out scumbag. Gary Sheffield version 2.0. No desire to be a team player

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    • HBan22

      3 weeks ago

      Yeah. As a Sox fan, he’s my new least favorite player in the league. He may have single handedly crushed our shot for at least this year with his selfishness and immaturity. There is plenty of blame to go around for the entire mess, but there is no doubt that a lot of it is on him.

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    • SportsFan0000

      3 weeks ago

      Funny that he was the face of the franchise and widely popular with the team and the fans until ownership, the front office and the team oriented media started trashing him and totally changed the terms of his employment that motivated him to sign the big contract.

      He could have gone free agency and signed anywhere for the same or more $$$$

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  68. HEHEHATE

    3 weeks ago

    I told y’all buster and devers had the night of their lives.

    This is pure gold but he has to accept it yes.

    You might not like Devers

    But understanding him

    Only the real ones get that

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    • HBan22

      3 weeks ago

      “What in God’s holy name are you blathering about?” – Mr. Lebowski

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  69. cleveland_spider

    3 weeks ago

    Now fatty McGee is willing to? lol

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    • DerekBellsMoistMoustache

      3 weeks ago

      Your mom is willing to what?

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  70. dlj0527

    3 weeks ago

    I never look at fielding stats so when I finally saw and read that Devers has led AL in errors every year of his career, I was shocked. I actually thought he was good defender. Not great, just like good or average at 3B.

    If Red Sox’s new future core and this group of Giants can bring home a couple WS rings through 2032, it will be rare good trade for both sides.

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  71. HalosHeavenJJ

    3 weeks ago

    This had it irk bahstun fans so I love it.

    I’m willing to bet Posey talked to him like a man. Looked him in the eye, talked about learning first base, and assured him they’d help him not just trot him out there.

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  72. thecrocusesareinbloom

    3 weeks ago

    If you’re a Red Sox fan, I have no idea how this information doesn’t tarnish your view of Devers forever. Suddenly acting like a loyal soldier willing to suit up at first base isn’t some kind of retroactive “own” against ownership or against Craig Breslow, who have now succeeded in recouping a misplaced investment in Devers and (if the last decade of Red Sox baseball is any indication) couldn’t care less about the negative PR. The only people it twists the knife into are a) Boston fans and b) Devers’ former teammates. Mercurial, holier-than-thou BS at its finest.

    For my own petulant part, I now feel confident in saying that I profoundly dislike him, and I hope his career ends in ignominy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . No ill will towards the Giants, though, y’all were robbed in ’21 and it would be awesome if you toppled the Dodgers and the Padres.

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      3 weeks ago

      I can’t up ote this because of the last sentence.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      3 weeks ago

      I don’t disagree with you but people used to say that about Machado and Harper and now they’re beloved. People can change and mature. Red Sox were hoping that he grew into a leader but he has no desire to be one. Not everyone wants to be that guy and that’s ok. Perhaps this was Devers’ wake-up call.

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      • thecrocusesareinbloom

        3 weeks ago

        @Yankees, that’s a fair point. I will say though that even at the height of their status as baseball divas I have a hard time imagining either Machado or Harper pulling a stunt quite like this one. Machado willingly bounced around between positions a few times throughout his career even when he was the sport’s #1 villain. But maybe Barry Bonds will talk some sense into him.

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  73. Rick Face

    3 weeks ago

    Can’t make this stuff up

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  74. olmtiant

    3 weeks ago

    Cyndi Lauper song it best( and only I think) “I see your true colors shining through “….. Conversation in KC….Henry.. “Raffy there is no I in team”… Raffy… “ yes but there is a ‘ME’….

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  75. letitbelowenstein

    3 weeks ago

    “They’re the men in charge,. I’m here to play wherever they want me to play.” Talk about spitting in Boston’s face and burning bridges. Loser.

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  76. gr81t2

    3 weeks ago

    “They’re the men in charge”. Where was this attitude in Boston? He’s still at first base

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  77. Cora the Destroya

    3 weeks ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Devers gives them issues later onlike he did the Sox… he’s just very immature and has a low baseball IQ other than being a big hitter.

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    • Teamspirit

      3 weeks ago

      Hopefully, this has been a maturation process for him and the Giants beat the Dodgers.

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      • Cora the Destroya

        3 weeks ago

        I would apreciate your comment more but I am a Red Sox fan, so it doesn’t really apply.

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  78. TroyVan

    3 weeks ago

    I wonder if he’s on the spectrum. Autistic folks sometimes have a hard time dealing with change.

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    • Old York

      3 weeks ago

      @TroyVan

      I guess that applies to the American electorate? Each side can’t seem to get over change.

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  79. CO Guardening

    3 weeks ago

    Hopefully this will be a maturation process for Red Sox fans, very low baseball IQ other than having an incredible stadium.

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    • olmtiant

      3 weeks ago

      And 4 WS Championships in 21 century….

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  80. Rishi

    3 weeks ago

    Gotta be impressed by this player’s willingness to do what’s best for the team by trying a new position.

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  81. reflect

    3 weeks ago

    This is the baseball equivalent of of the girl who hits the gym after someone breaks up with her for not hitting the gym

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  82. Old York

    3 weeks ago

    Guy’s on a baseball team. He should be playing every single position if he’s actually a professional athlete. Shouldn’t be making such large sums of money if you’re only able to play one position. I’d like to see Devers work on pitching and catching as well.

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    • Rishi

      3 weeks ago

      In his spare time I’d like to see him study to assist the team physician. At the least he should be preparing to lend a hand with the Giants Espanol radio broadcasts.

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      • WadeBoggsWildRide

        3 weeks ago

        For $300M he should be using his bat to hit more than baseballs. He should be bashing Ulner ligaments back into place to help the pitching staff. He could be knocking hot dogs and t-shirts into the stands. No need for a cannon when you have Raffy making that money. When he is done with that he can just look around for any loose nails and give them a few taps.

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    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      3 weeks ago

      Derek Jeter says hi

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  83. Bob Sacamano 310

    3 weeks ago

    Red Sox should have started that in Spring Training

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  84. Bobby smac9

    3 weeks ago

    From this day forward I will be a model citizen.

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  85. Chuck from Uniontown

    3 weeks ago

    That quote from Devers is hilarious.

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  86. CarolinaCubsandKush

    3 weeks ago

    Sounds like his agent told him exactly what to say this time lol. Predictable but still very funny.

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  87. TunaNoCrust

    3 weeks ago

    Devers acts like one of those toxic females

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  88. joew

    3 weeks ago

    Hahhahhahahhaahahah… That is pretty funny.

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  89. Dumpster Divin Theo

    3 weeks ago

    All they had to do was ask nicely

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  90. sss847

    3 weeks ago

    the whole devers/boston FO position switch standoff reminds me of office space where lumbergh keeps making milton move his desk

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  91. whyhayzee

    3 weeks ago

    2 out of 3 ain’t bad.

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  92. ArianaGrandSlam

    3 weeks ago

    l can’t tell if everyone is going to boo him when he comes back to Fenway.

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  93. jgsd12@yahoo.com 2

    3 weeks ago

    Good luck to Devers. SF needs a major spark. Too many players have low batting averages that mean an easy unproductive out. Adamas, .207. Baily .193. Koss, ..217. The list goes on and on. Would be nice to see SF start winning and make a run for first place and the playoffs. And, that will help full up the stands too. As a Giant fan for some 70 years, I never get tired of seeing an exciting season.

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  94. Bobby smac9

    3 weeks ago

    Of course he’s willing to work out at 1b. of course.

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  95. PessimisticRedleg

    3 weeks ago

    I’m just here for Red Sox fans getting all salty.

    And let me save you the trouble. Yes, I know the Cincinnati Reds suck. (Although we didn’t in 1975. And I think you would like our manager.)

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