1:40pm: Bench coach Ryan Christenson and third base coach Matt Williams tell Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle that they will not be returning to the team in 2026, either. Both were with the Giants in those roles from 2024-25.
11:35am: The Giants announced Monday that they’ve fired manager Bob Melvin. They’ll spend the early portion of the offseason looking for a new skipper.
“After meeting with ownership, I met with Bob today to inform him of my decision,” president of baseball operations Buster Posey said in a press release. “On behalf of the organization, I want to express my appreciation to Bob and for his dedication, professionalism, and class. I wish him all the best.
After a careful evaluation, we determined that making a change in leadership was in the best interest of the team. The last couple of months have been both disappointing and frustrating for all of us, and we did not perform up to our standards. We now turn our focus to identifying a new leader to guide us forward.”
As recently as July 1, things looked quite different. The Giants announced at the time that they were exercising their 2026 club option on Melvin, who’d spent the first three months of the season with no guarantees beyond the current campaign. At the time, Melvin’s Giants were 45-40, firmly in the mix a National League Wild Card berth. They played at a disappointing 36-41 pace down the stretch, finishing the year with a .500 record that landed them 12 games behind the NL West-champion Dodgers and two games behind the Reds for the final postseason spot. Despite Melvin being under contract on a guaranteed salary, the Giants will cut ties and look for a new dugout boss.
Melvin is one of the most decorated managers in the game today — and in MLB history. He’s currently 20th all-time in managerial wins. A three-time Manager of the Year who’s won that honor in both the American League and National League, the 63-year-old Melvin has 22 years of managerial experience and a winning 1678-1588 record. That includes an 853-764 record in 11 seasons as manager in Oakland, despite perennially operating clubs that had one of the game’s lowest payrolls (if not the lowest in a given season). He was 161-163 in his two seasons at the helm on the other side of the Bay.
As the Giants slipped down the stretch, Melvin’s job status became a source of increased speculation. Just yesterday, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale suggested that, in the wake of a playoff miss, Posey might look to move on from Melvin and try to bring his own former manager, Bruce Bochy, back to San Francisco. Bochy’s contract in Texas is up and, as with Melvin, there’s been plenty of speculation regarding his future following a second straight disappointing season in Arlington.
Anyone with a résumé as prolific as that of Melvin will figure to get looks at other managerial vacancies as they arise around the sport. The Orioles, Nationals and Rockies already have interim managers after midseason dismissals of Brandon Hyde, Davey Martinez and Bud Black. Braves manager Brian Snitker has said he’s yet to decide whether he’ll retire or continue managing. Bochy’s contract in Texas is up. A handful of other managerial vacancies could very well emerge, too, and there are surely no shortage of clubs who’d be interested in bringing someone with Melvin’s acumen board in an advisory capacity, if he doesn’t want to jump right back into the rigors of helming a club for 162 games.
As for the Giants, Melvin’s ouster all but guarantees substantial turnover on the coaching staff. It’s commonplace when a manager is let go for his coaching staff to be given the green light to explore opportunities with other clubs. Incoming managers typically want to have say in the coaching staff at their disposal, after all. Melvin’s dismissal should be the first of several shakeups to the dugout staff at Oracle Park.
Quick hook!
Golden Gate goodbye
Craven – Worst part about getting fired is he won’t have a chance to manage Raffy for a full season, what a bummer. They would have made the postseason with a full season of a healthy Devers.
I hear you FPG
Devers is one player, giants have too many roster holes to be better than all of the wild card teams right now (except maybe the reds)
It’s not posey’s fault because he inherited a horrible roster from Farhan but if it’s still like this in 2 years then it will be posey
lol
Totally agree with you 9 players and want to blame on one ,7 players hitting below 240 and 8 pitchers with the ERA over 4.50
Not only will he miss his chance with Devers without Melvin they’ve got zero chance of getting Sonny to waive his NTC
Sounds like a Giants championship caliber team with a manager like Bochy
Only bochy can win it all with scraps AJ hinch or pat murphy might be the next
They need to fill second base and right field. Maybe Torres at second, not sure if they would be lucky enough to land Tucker also. Either one would be great.
Fever Pitch Guy
Maybe.
I don’t think there’s enough budget for Tucker and because he’s left handed, I’m not sure he’s the best use of $$. But Torres makes sense.
Tucker is by far and away the best FA on the market. And I’ll let the team worry about the budget. But Torres absolutely makes no sense. The Giants still play in a pitcher’s park where defense carries a premium. The last thing they need is one of the worst fielding 2B in MLB
Please, such blasphemy. Posey won’t fail.
Would rather have Schmidt than Torres. Casey actually has been improving each year.
Tucker’s splits are actually pretty even. They have the money. It the injuries that concern me. Can’t see spending money on Torres.
No, Schmidt is a utility guy. We need an everyday player at second. Same for right field. I would rather go all in on Tucker. Maybe find a second baseman in a trade.
I’d like to see the Giants acquire Brendan Donovan from the Cards. He’s an above average fielder with a much bat than Schmitt.. And it’s too soo to tell, but I’m liking Koss a little better than Schmitt as a utility guy. Koss can play all 3 IF positions. Not sure how much I’d trust Schmitt at SS.
Definitely too early to tell on Koss but I too like his output defensively. Schmitty can play some 3 bag pretty well, but no on SS. What’s your thoughts on Albies? Might be a little expensive if they are willing to let him go. Grab him and Tucker.
I don’t like Albies very much. He’s about the same as Torres with the glove, and I think 2B is too important a defensive position. I don’t watch a ton of Braves games, but when I have, Albies seems to chase a lot of pitches out of the zone.
It wasn’t the manager’s fault, but the front office has to blame someone.
Almost nobody enjoys a Melvin or a wedgie.
Now he just needs to manage the two Los Angeles teams and he’ll have California bingo.
Because the front office never fires itself.
With the FO only having been in place for less than a year, it would seem hasty to fire themselves at this point
The word “never” being operative.
My point was that your comment was a non sequitur, since even if FO did fire themselves, it would make no sense for that to take place here
Because the front office never fires itself.
Let’s keep it going!
This is kind of a strange use of the non sequitur concept. When a front office fires a manager it follows that they are blaming him at least in part for their own failings, especially these days when front offices are also responsible for the analytics that define so much of the game planning. In this case, the front office built a .500 roster and it was managed to exactly a .500 finish. But they alway fire the guy with a number on his back.
I don’t disagree with your argument but this front office has been in place for less than 1 year, so I believe that is not enough time to evaluate their work. Give them time to succeed or fail. If Posey isn’t 100% that Melvin is the guy, (IMO) don’t waste another season figuring it out.
A team that fires their front office in back to back years is objectively terribly run (intentional misuse of objectively). There is a reason that does not happen
No matter how long this front office has been on the job, they started the season with a .500 roster and ended with a .500 record. Little (aside from the obvious, Devers) was done to change those expectations. Blaming the guy in the dugout when the expected happens is pretty much SOP in baseball. This way, the FO never has to admit to having not done a great job assembling a roster. I can evaluate that part of their work now.
The Giants now have a roster with many fast players (Lee, Ramos, Gilbert, Chapman, Adames, Koss, McCray, Matos).
Why didn’t they bunt more, attempt more steals? TYhat’s on the manager and his coaching staff.
Analytics frowns on bunting and stealing.
It depends on your definition of “front office.” The owner never fires himself (or herself), but GMs get fired all the time, and even Presidents of Baseball Operations will be let go on rare occasions.
Fair enough. Owners who should fire themselves (are you listening, Arte Moreno?) never do, though some will sell the team eventually. But even with the qualifications, you are more or less making my argument. The first person to take the hit is nearly always the one with the number on his back. The further up the management food chain you go, the less likely it is that they will be sent their walking papers.
“Owners who should fire themselves ( are you listening, Arte Moreno?)… Also Bob Nutting.
I think your statement is correct, and will continue to be so many years into the future
Hard to say it wasn’t deserved. Bob was brought in to specifically prevent what happened this season.
Prevent a mediocre batting lineup from being exactly that?
Haha Bob freaking Melvin was brought in to bring that team to the playoffs and then they gave him a mighty, mighty weapon early in the season to get that done. Everybody expected better. This wasn’t a ramp up year for the future. This was a win today move. Bob expected to win and so did management. Then he didn’t. He’s not a spring chicken man. How much longer is this team supposed to sit around and wait for Bob to connect with the team.
June 15 there’s around 76 to 85 games left – not exactly “early “ in the season
A month and a half before the deadline. An out of nowhere signing probably stolen out from under several interested teams?They gave him a loaded weapon and he fired it into the air several times and then gatling gunned himself in the crotch. He was not hired to go .500 and miss the playoffs twice. No matter how hard you squint you will never change what were very clear expectations for a veteran manager with a front office willing to spend.
Injuries and trades are the biggest reason why the Giants missed the playoffs. That’s a depth issue and front office problem; not a manager issue.
Yes a manager issue. Stephen Vogt was available two years ago. Look at his situation and then tell me Bob had it worse. Bob was an underperforming manager with a front office willing to buy him talent.
The Giants had the LEAST amount of WAR (Fangraphs) lost due to injury in all of MLB.
lol gatling gunned himself in the crotch, classic
Actually, a big issue is that they play in the same division as the Dodgers, Padres and D’Backs. Another issue is that they play in a ballpark that free agent hitters are disinclined to choose. Neither of these things are the manager’s issue. But Melvin knew them coming in, and he didn’t say: I’d love to manage, but you can’t expect better than .500. So he’s two games under .500 in two seasons, with payrolls approaching $200 million. Since Posey has to worry about his job, I’d say that at this point he is entitled to pick his manager.
Dude!!!!! BOB LEFT THE PADRES FOR GIANTS!!!!! They poached him to avoid exactly this scenario lololol This comment of all of them absolutely kills me.
It seems like a ridiculous metaphor.
“They” didn’t poach Melvin. Preller was happy to have a graceful off-ramp for him after only two seasons, the second of which was mediocre with a very expensive roster. And it wasn’t this managemnt team that hired Melvin, who is from the Bay area and wanted to go home, it was Zaidi’s. Melvin is well decorated and well respected. But he’s managed for 22 seasons and has never been to the World Series. I don’t know what scenario you’re suggesting “they” wanted to avoid, but I do presume they wanted to win, and Melvin didn’t win enough to reain under new management, . .
Injuries?? Giants were fifth lowest in number of injuries in MLB. So don’t say injuries . All teams have them and Giants had them less than 25 other teams. Look at the Dodger and Padre injuries alone in the NL West!
How exactly do you measure WAR Lost Due to Injury when the whole problem is that injured players can’t accumulate WAR in the first place?
Is this actually Projected WAR Lost Due to Injury, or Prorated WAR Lost Due to Injury?
Devers is overrated. Bad move with all that money left on the deal
i think hes been pretty good
adames, devers, chapman, lee, ramos aren’t mediocre, they preformed mediocre or inconsistent this year
Funny, this. Back in March the Giants were projected for a breakeven season, based entirely on their roster. So when their season ended at precisely breakeven, it must be the manager’s fault. I mean, obviously! Funnier yet, managers these days are more than ever extensions of the front office.
This is a perfect example of what I said before: front offices never fire themselves.
Stop. Bob and the Giants set the expectations when he fled his previous position for what they both presumed were greener pasteurs.
Uh, what? If only wishes were fishes…
His hook could be more than about the team’s expectations and performance, there could be myriad other reasons (interpersonal etc…) that we don’t know about. I can imagine a few…. first and foremost is that new GMs often want to have their own guy. But this is about the maximum amount of thought I feel is worthy of my time.
You need to consider the way the .500 happened. Inconsistency is a bad look.
They didn’t have Devers in March. Expectations went up
BlueSkies_LA, Trying to come to a conclusion by comparing prediction with result is useless. Every single year, some team, and even teams, are labeled with the same prediction as what was predicted for the Giants, and prove it wrong. The Royals, or Tigers in 2024, eg. It’s completely wrong-headed to say, see, they were predicted to do such and such, and it’s proof because that’s what they did.
What were the predictions this season for the Braves, Orioles, Mets, Astros, and D’backs? This illogical post isn’t like you. Normally you seem to be able to make thoughtful, logical posts, but you swung and missed this time.
Statistically they hit the middle of the bell curve, AKA, the mostly likely result. The fact that some teams perform on the north side of the bell curve and others on the south side of their projected performance curves (AKA, less likely results) does not prove that the projections were wrong, only that randomness is real. This is what statistics are meant to show. In fact, they can show only this.
My post is entirely logical, but it does require an understanding of basic concepts in statistics.
No, you’re still conflating opinion with fact. It’s your opinion they started with a .500 roster. There were predictions about multiple teams this year that proved to be just incorrect opinions, including, but not limited to, the ones I mentioned. Are you suggesting the opinions on those teams predicted to contend for the PS but didn’t, were just unlikely outcomes, but your opinion was proof of something? There are far too may factors in the outcome of a team’s season which is why so many predictions are wrong. Opinion carries zero weight
Definitely not. My “opinion“ is based entirely on the PECOTA model. If you don’t understand the basic concepts of probabilities and statistics then perhaps this isn’t the right discussion for you.
PECOTA: Projected 92 wins for the 2025 Braves. The Orioles and the Rangers projected for 89 wins. PECOTA had the Cubs, with 91 wins, dethroning the 81 win Brewers, and the Twins winning the ALC. Plus the 87 win D’back a WC team and the Padres, with 82 wins, not. The Jays 3rd in the ALE with 84 wins. The Tigers 4th in the ALC with 74 wins. The Mariners 3rd in the ALW with 86 wins. The Phillies 3rd in the NLE with 88 wins. The Reds last in the NLC with 74 wins.
And yet you seem to think PECOTA predicting 78 wins, to the actual of 81, has value. I understand the concept of probability and statistics as a flawed predicter of future performance. I think perhaps it’s you that doesn’t quite understand.
Sorry, no part of your response has the slightest connection to anything I said or even a remote connection to statistics. Apparently you don’t understand any of this all.
Then it appears that you’re obtuse. And what you apparently don’t understand is that using a flawed prediction system as some sort of fact to base your opinion on is selective, and completely wrong-headed.
I am sorry that you have no comprehension of basic statistical methods and sorrier still that you have no interest in acquiring this knowledge.
I understand what projections are based on, and I understand the difference between actual statistics and those that are projected. I’m sorry that you’re confused about the relationship between projections and reality, and your not realizing that one compared with the other is a useless rationalization for an opinion. Nor does it appear this confusion is ever going to clear for you.
A little surprised by this since Buster picked up the option on his contract for 2026 mid-season. I thought he’d be on a short leash, but if Buster lost confidence in Melvin, probably best to get it over with and start fresh
Might as well have resigned apparently. Can never trust a new GM/POBO when you were hired under the previous GM/POBO.
He would not get paid for 2026 if he resigned. Would be a silly ego-driven move if he had done so
@johnrealtime
Forgot about that part. You got me.
Takeaway is he was fired manager walking.
And forfeit his 2026 salary????
@Adrian
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@Soto
Yes, you’re very clever.
Didn’t think I’d see Melvin get fired before Marmol in STL tbh
Please. I’m hoping bloom goes scorched earth with a whole new staff. Clapp and Jay would be the only guys I keep. The players say they like brown but I don’t really see the results as most players have regressed in batting.
Would love to see Jon jay replace marmol, or maybe pry skip from Texas if bochy doesn’t retire
@big
Walker and Gorman regressed because they may not be able to hit in the majors. They’ve never truly proven otherwise and are probably on their way out.
Nootbaar has regressed, despite having a legit chance to hit and has been healthy. His walks are way down and frequently takes crummy at-bats, so I’ll give you that.
Nado regressed once his injured shoulder became known…and may just be too old.
Who else has regressed?
Burly, Herrera, Donovan, and Saggesse have all progressed. Winn is the same. Contreras is the same. VS2 is a rookie and has always been a glove-first fielder with limited power. Looks like Pages isn’t really a hitter. Pozo seems to have a nice bat, despite not having a major-league quality arm.
I think Brant Brown should stay.
I thought going scorched earth was the only way to get rid of the Clapp…
You can also pop a Warner if you can get a prescription for it.
With the Giants fire Melvin, Can the Cardinals follow suite and fire Mormal?
If they don’t, I don’t see how we can expect different results as the last couple of seasons
In a season when many–most?–teams were streaky, the Giants might have been the streakiest. The best managers find ways to stop the bleeding. Melvin did not, and the Giants are probably right in letting him go.
Yes they do. It’s key. Streaky is bad for a manager.
Marmol could easily go, but the Cardinals now have brand new FO and will be embarking on full youth movement. Which means that any experienced manager would be less likely to apply for Cardinals manager position. If the Cardinals let Marmol go, then his replacement would most likely be a first time manager. I am curious if Cardinals fans are willing to sit through growing pains with new manager for at least 2 years.
We will if it’s Yadi.
Skip Schumaker, David Ross, or Yadi.
On the bright side, they have a solid three true outcomes DH now for full seasons going forward along with his albatross contract.
Full seasons of Devers can be great to watch. His strike zone discipline is getting better, even if his K% is going up. The power is obviously still there.
3? 2 really edridge and devers, i don’t know who the 3rd true outcome guy you mean
I assume the third is Adames.
adames really isn’t a DH 3 true outcome guy though. he is a totally serviceable (and this year pretty good) defender and also puts the ball in play a lot with a pretty average level of strikeouts –
Knuck – His plate discipline was the best of his career by far, he was leading MLB in walks for a while. I think it regressed slightly after the trade because he felt pressured into carrying the offense. He’s always been excellent at driving balls that are out of the strike zone.
For those unaware of 3 true outcomes, this is about Devers Walking, Striking out, or Homering. The outcomes are the three that remove fielding from the equation, not that there are 3 hitters that are DHs.
Not a Giants fan do objectively: Your lineup and your rotation aren’t elite. Borderline playoff quality. Devers is a huge impact bat but conditioning and attitude are questionable, to say the least. We’ll see if Posey in front office material. Not sure he is
The – Don’t believe the stuff haters have posted here, read the articles from credible sources about him. His “attitude” was excellent and well liked by everyone for 12 years, until the Red Sox did him dirty early this year.
When he gets into his mid-30’s yes his conditioning could be an issue, but you do realize he played 163 games this season …. right?
And you do realize he played the most innings in MLB at 3B from 2019-2024 than anyone except Chapman …. right?
He plays every day and as you probably witnessed personally this season he even plays hurt.
Just wanted to set the record straight.
What’s more, he plays 1b pretty darn well. He’s not a liability there as he may have been at 3b.
It was strange, he managed the Padres to the NLCS in 22. Then the next year it was expected that this would be the team to beat. But the 23 team never showed any life and seriously underachieved. I know there were things like Hader only wanting to pitch in certain situations, and I’m sure there were more demands like that. It was no secret that him and Preller were not seeing eye-to-eye. Every game he just looked like he would rather be anywhere else. SD fans started calling him “Sleepy Bob”. I understand he was clearly not happy with the situation, but it seemed like he stopped trying and it rolled down to the players and staff.
I didn’t watch a ton of Giants games the last 2 years. I don’t know if it was similar there or not.
I was ecstatic when he was hired to replace Jayce Tingler. I thought BoMel was going to provide stability and credibility as the skipper. It started off so well before dovetailing in 2023.
Dovetailing? Apparently you don’t know what means.
lol at reminding people that Padre fans stole a trumpism !
Ha ha. Eeeewwww. Do you feel dirty ?
James Midway —
It was to the extent that he never looked animated or even happy. With a team as young as the Giants, they need someone that manages with fire and the aggressive approach to bunt, steal bases, take the extra base. Melvin and his coaches did not provide that.
When Bob started daydreaming about being back in the Bay area while he was still managing the Padres is when he started to burn the bridge in San Diego.
Why would you preemptively exercise his option just to fire him before the option year has even started?
Picking up the option avoids a lame duck tenure that can become a media distraction. It’s an optics thing; Giants pay a few million to take heat off the clubhouse.
Because the front office doesn’t know what they’re doing.
it was to provide stability – the team was trying to stop a slide and made a move to show confidence in the team but it didn’t really help
I get all the speculation that SF may try to bring Bochy back as their next move, but the man is now 70, and he already retired once from the Giants in 2019. How much longer would he be able to manage? I think it’s time to head in a new direction, and I’d love to see them land Skip Schumaker.
Bob Melvin does his best work when expectations are decidedly low. When expectations are elevated and high, Bob Melvin is probably not your guy.
He did really good with the As when he manager.
“Good with the A’s”…I think you just proved my point.
Apologies, I was reaffirming your point.
He got the A’s to the playoffs 6 times. That is no easy feat even with really good teams
Yeah it doesn’t look great when you are on a 3 year run with the 5th, 8th and 12th highest payrolls in the game playing essentially .500 ball.
I imagine, like Padre fans these past two years, Giants fans will be very happy with his replacement whoever that may be.
This Giants team was one of the worst I’ve ever seen at fundamentals. Historically the Giants teams that succeeded didn’t do so because they were blessed with the most talent, but the ones that could execute correctly.
This change needed to be made. Love seeing the decisiveness from Posey.
Not sure this falls into “decisiveness” for Posey. Exercised the 2026 option less than three months ago and now he’s out the door. Unless the owner said “yeah, throw the dog a bone and show our “confidence” in him… maybe he gets them in the playoffs and if not just cut him loose”. I guess that’s one way to run a payroll. Regardless, I understand most of the team underperformed and next season their division will likely remain very competitive. Not sure the path forward will improve much but perhaps acquiring some additional arms for the pitching staff would improve their odds.
You should watch the Mets
No you shouldn’t.
Maybe Melvin can replace Mendoza in Queens…
“You should watch the Mets”
I will… next year.
The Posey decisiveness has been impressive. Devers. It happens now or it doesn’t happen. Trade Deadline. Not good enough. Selling. Now Bob. He isn’t afraid of the new job.
Idk about that. He reupped Bob, sold at the deadline and now complains they didn’t finish better.
Hell it was a miracle the giants were as good as they were after the deadline. Best pen arm went down for the year and traded the second and third guys.
I’m not a Bob fan but posey talk out of his rear.
Where has he complained ? Can you send me the link ?
They all reup them to quell any mid season noise. It’s worth the cash. It’s the right thing to do.
Selling was very decisive. Many many many would have stood pat. He had the balls to make that call and improve the farm by the most any farm improved at the deadline. Decisive.
If you think Posey talks out of his rear, then you either don’t listen to him speak, or you are a stupid, biased Padre fan. Your pick.
They do extend manager on their final year but rarely during the season and then fire them. So guess that was a mistake.
Talking out of his rear saying they didn’t finish strong when he sold at the deadline. If he expected them to compete for a spot then why did he sell.
Why didn’t he buy? You can’t sell then be disappointed in not competing as well as he would have liked.
I agree selling was the right decision but don’t complain about not being good enough when you do.
Again, where has he complained ? Why are you using that word ?
They didn’t buy because they weren’t worthy of further investment .
Absolutely you can expect them to still compete. You should expect the players you have to compete and be disappointed if they don’t. He isn’t a fan. In periods, Giants showed they had what it takes. The slumps cost Bob his job. Other than people’s imagination, there is no problem with Posey anywhere. Logical folks see the opposite. 1
Year in and dude is impressing.
Weird as hell to pick up a future option year mid-season and then fire said option receivee mere months later.
Seems strange to say Posey is impressing a year in when he took a .500 team to a .500 team. All while spending 600m on Chapman, Adames & Devers between the two seasons. Usually you want to see some positive momentum when that kind of money is spent.
It was his first year. He locked in Chapman. Got Adames. Got Devers via trade. You know, the type of guy they have been trying to get for years. Improved the farm from 27ish to 17ish at the deadline and still had them fighting into wc contention until the last week or so.
You people are so weird. It’s like reality doesn’t exist.
I guess we’re at that point in the comments where players like Chapman, Adames & Devers are comparable to the likes of Ohtani, Judge and Harper.
Ones reality is a special place not to be taken for granted.
Who is comparing them ?
The point was he has done plenty. It was a list of the highlights. First year. Never done it before. Pretending he hasn’t impressed is just weird.
Here is hard arse, not happy at all Posey explaining why he did it.
youtu.be/SoQYYhand38?si=FrYrrYcHBQglbbu4
They won 1 more game in 2025. They scored 12 more runs. They gave up 15 fewer runs. It took some good fortune finishing the season with a sweep of the Rockies (the team with the worst run differential since 1899) and with the Dbacks getting swept by SD to not finish in 4th place again.
Just because someone is inexperienced in a role doesn’t make the outcome impressive if the improvement is so negligible.
2025: 81-81
2024: 80-82
2023: 79-83
2022: 81-81
Dumb and weird.
That Arson Boone!
Maybe he can manage the angels. He knows what to do
… Tsk. I realize that it’s optics, but they might have negotiated a more conciliatory resignation.
“I realize its optics..conciliatory resignation”..A Whitman sampler? A stadium video tribute? A last stadium hotdog? What exactly do you give a guy you’re about to fire?
A thank you and the door….
Posey & Co. are paying Melvin millions to sit at home. Can’t get any better than that….
Yessss! Dude is a tool
Bochy with a successor on the bench with him.
Bring back Timmy,,,,
Bochy and bench coach Pence, Crawford, Belt or Hundley. Posey already knows so hopefully we’ll know soon. Posey won’t wait around.
Seen speculation they might offer Nick Hundley the job, He was Posey’s backup a couple of seasons. Melvin had a solid reputation but maybe the game has passed him by. Still thought they would give him another year but obviously felt a new approach was needed.
Loved Hundley when he was with the Giants. Same with Vogt. Both guys seemed destined to manage. Ditto for Hunter Pence.
Pence loves his broadcast gig too much to give it up. Can see him replacing Krukow when Kruk retires.
as a dbacks fan I would love to see torey fired
he couldnt hit the inside fastball
Meanwhile, Snitker will stay on to bozo his way through another Braves’ season.
I think the Giants made the right move in letting him go. Other teams like the Dbacks, Mets, and Braves should follow suit.
Hunter pence time
Had to be done! now lets see if Posey hires correctly or decides to go with “friends of posey”
Not great, Bob!
Now for the Mets to fire Carlos Mendoza.
Shocked that NY is keeping Mendoza. I don’t know the history but the Mets collapse had to be one of the worst in years. Tigers was a major collapse this year too, but they still made the post season.
Now is the time for the Cardinals to get rid of Marmol and replace him with Black.
The lows were too low. You move on. Thanks Bob. Feel for the guy. Sounded like SF was where he wanted to be.
Hate to see Melvin gone but I understand why. Posey would rather have a manager his regime hires. The Giants collapse probably did Melvin in. I would’ve liked to see him manage next year with a full season of Devers, a full season of Adames being Adames, a full season of Chapman healthy and a full season at 2B of Schmitt. We’ll all be patient as to who Posey hires. Wouldn’t be surprised if Bochy comes back as he was forced out by Zaidi. I think most Giants fans know Bochy wasn’t appreciated by Zaidi’s regime. I hope Chapman isn’t super pissed because him and Melvin were pretty close for years.
Bochy is no longer the man for the job. Giants need to go younger, more aggressive, witth coaches who can teach bunting, contact, base running and stealing.
He’ll be hired by the Mets.
Mel…vin!
I was really hoping this would’ve turned out differently. I recall being excited when they hired him.
Went to high school with Melvin, he was a hotshot freshmen catcher when I was a senior first baseman riding the pine on varsity. Those were the glory days !!!
M-A represent!
OzZy Guillen!!!!
Boch? I believe his contract expired at season’s end. One year plus a manager option? He’ll probably retire but that magical year in Texas in 2023 is still pretty fresh and I know he’d like to have one more chance to get his lifetime record over .500 despite 4 World Championships and 2252 wins he’s still 14 games under .500. Still a shoo-in hall of famer.
I think both Brandon’s should be considered. Both were great team leaders. Would Posey consider a dual role? It’s going to be interesting.
Certainly NOT Belt. Crawford’s an interesting take.
“4 World Championships” of Murica, F#&k Yeah!
Melvin mismanaged the Giants. Wrong lineup. Wrong choice of reliever. Time and time again. Our group would scream at the TV or radio at his moves.
Just leaving in Hicks alone cost the Giants a Wild card berth.
I just hope it’s not Matt Williams or Bruce Bochy.
Williams was fired too, so I think we are safe from that one
Williams has already said he’s not coming back. Bochy is not the guy either.
Posey gave Melvin a Melvin
A double Melvin.
Everybody is kung fu fighting but with words.
I hope the Nats don’t go after Melvin when they get to hiring a new manager.
Bochy heads back to SanFran for a farewell tour, the Rangers name Schumaker their new manager, and everybody (me) is happy. For a little while. Maybe.
Mistake in my opinion but what I’m more interested in is who they pick to replace him and does Melvin manage again?
I see them giving Ramon Vazquez and Luis Rojas a look
I could see Skip Schumaker as well
Bob Melvin will not be unemployed long as he’ll be the first manager hired by another team (other than the Colorado Rockies) who has an opening..
Melvin has proven himself to be a good manager. Not sure if he’d want to step into this dumpster fire, but I’d love to have him here.
Buster trying to act quick before the Mets thro $20M/year at bochy
I have always thought Melvin has done a solid job given the talent level of the rosters he’s been given. In 2024 you could argue he managed them up after their pitching got decimated early in the year. What doomed him I believe was the very sloppy defense in 2024 that was much improved in 2025 but at times and really in a lot of the Verlander starts costs them games when they didn’t have that kind of margin for error.
I think what cost Melvin his job was they get Devers are playing well and look to be buyers at the trade deadline and then have some historically awful homestands ending up as sellers at the deadline. Good on Posey to be decisive there.
So Kapler was one end of the manager spectrum, Melvin the other and my hope is the Giants build a roster with depth so whomever they hire can operate somewhere in the middle. Adames loves to play but if you want him for a deep October run he can’t play 160 reg season games, Chapman was similar exiting really only due to injury.
Second base is an obvious position you can upgrade, A playoff team has players like Schmidt, Koss and or a Fitzgerald on their bench drawing regular starts.
Catcher, gotta find a partner for Bailey who finished strong but sometimes you need to take Sept stats with a grain of salt and you a lot of rookies/ AAAA pitching happens in September.
Sort out a plan for Devers, can his off season plan be take a majority of his AB’s 1B/DH but take spot starts at 3rd? Ditto Bryce Eldridge, if he’s on the roster a majority of his AB’s 1B/DH but in select road ballparks be capable of taking spot starts in outfield corners.
Sort out an everyday a corner OF that pushes Gilbert into a 4th OF role. It stinks that Encarnacion’s season was ruined by injury, at times he’s demonstrated he can make very loud contact. At worst he likely assumes the Wilmer Flores role though is OF optionality is a +
What a good Giant Flores has been, I’m shocked he wasn’t moved at the deadline and I wonder if he asked not to be and the Giants respected his wish. Ditto, there’s likely conversations to be had with Verlander who I wonder if he hasn’t considered a return to DET who could have used him this year.
It’s likely a Bochy return, the timing is right for it as the Giant’s exiting the season roster talent is as high as it’s been in easily a decade. If you plan on playing in October, he sort of debukes the small sample nature of the post season.
Posey is clueless. Maybe fire him?
Bochy’s winning percentage as a Giants manager: .500 (two-games under, actually), Melvin’s: .497 (also two games under) Kapler’s: .543 (47 games over). Of course, Bochy was 19 games over in Giants playoff games!
It appears that Buster Don”t Play!
And queue Posey to become Manager/GM.
What did they expect when they threw a bomb into their team chemistry by trading for Devers?!
Huge gift to the Red Sox and huge self-inflicted move on Posey’s part
Ha ha ha. Looked like they loved Devers. Chemistry looked great.
You’re just making stuff up so it can suit your narrative. Ha ha. Did you think people wouldn’t notice that ?
wifflemeister, Obviously you saw no Giants’ games after they acquired Devers. It was obvious that he fit right in. Anytime the camera went to the dugout I saw more smiles, talking and joking than I’ve ever seen before. A lot of that was because of Adames, but Devers was clearly interacting positively with his teammates. Your chemistry disruption claim is totally false, and obviously so to Giants’ fans.
We will see how things play out in the coming season. Hopefully it works out
Maybe you haven’t seen the stats for Devers play in SF—on both sides of the ball. You’re probably a BoSox fan, and I get it, but maybe Boston’s front office messed up the communication, cause Rafi’s been great here.
It was going well until they decided to go with the Buster Posey Rule: give out an extension before the contract had even been completed.
no more Williams stopping a runner from scoring….
so is Rocco Baldelli now.
The Giants are wild, their fanbase and front office eternally feel like they have a world series roster regardless of the players they are actually running out there.
Yeah, there was some of that. Roster definitely wasn’t nearly good enough.
Though I’m not a Bob fan, so getting rid of him was the right thing in my eyes.
Bob likely got run because of how they finished and he came to SF off a pretty abysmal showing with the 2023 Padres. The Giants 2025 record is right where their talent should’ve landed them, but Bob didn’t have alot of goodwill in the bank.
It might also be important to consider that Melvin wasn’t brought to SF by Posey. It’s a nervous time for a manager to inherit a new GM who wants to re-shape the team.
Regarding 2023 in SD. Melvin seemed to isolate himself from FO and players in a way I’ve never seen before. He’s a good baseball guy, but has a stubborn streak and maybe that contributed to his short stay in SF as well.
He’s a good baseball mind, but at this stage in his career he might fit best in a FO rather than as a manager.
That’s not wild at all. It’s totally understandable. Look at the Giants WS history. There is precedent.
I mean if you just want to ignore the names on the roster every opening day then sure, it’s understandable. But reality says they’ve had exactly 1 season out of the last 9 that ended above .500 and every year the fanbase is disappointed/ shocked that they can’t keep up in the West and/ or missed the playoffs. It’s like FantasyLand out in SF.
Maybe. I’ll take positivity any day of the week. Much more fun.
I’m not in SF, yet I think they put together a playoff roster and adding Devers was a great message from ownership.
The Braves and Mets and Diamondbacks also had impressive rosters in 2025, but for various reasons teams encounter issues, or underachieve. Happens every year (especially to the Mets?).
Those here strongly blaming Posey (or Melvin for that matter) for the outcome of this season are being a bit extreme. Reality is always more complicated than sound-bite opinions can encompass, and the blame game is a convenient option to those who prefer the ease of judgement in black and white.
LA Angels need to hire him please
Not surprising since Buster didn’t hire him. The Giants not making the playoffs just made firing him easier.
Didn’t hire him but did pick up his option after the season had started. Which then is giving him at least part approval of bob
Time to hire Ron Wotus
The Lineups were bad all year. Bullpen mismanaged. Starters did ok, but poor performance at times for sure.
– To me the Lineups were horrible.
No surprise but he was a hell of alot better than Kapler.
It seems to me Kapler did a whole lot more with a whole lot less talent..
Kapler completely lost the club. He was too busy lathering himself in coconut oil and writing vacuous speeches to the media.
You still upset that he has an awesome rig and a polished style ?
With the additions of Adames, re -negotiating Chapman contract then acquiring Devers and paying his entire contract that is a huge payroll right there. Melvin had to at least get these three into the playoffs this year to save his job. he did not and the door he was shown. As far as the Giants signing any big FA’s this off season can’t really see that either. I do think they need to build a offense similar to the Brewers contact hitters and speed on the bases with good defense.
Why can’t you see them signing any big FAs? Well, maybe they won’t, but they’ll certainly pursue some. The Giants are as wealthy as any MLB team except for maybe the Mets. Over the past few years they’ve gone hard after guys like Judge, Ohtani, and Yamamoto.
With Posey, as a part-owner, willing to do what it took to extend Chapman, sign Adames, and take on all of Devers’ contract, suggests he’s not going to operate in the frugal manner that Zaidi did.
He is the memory making business. I’m thinking he will be in there throwing punches.
Melvin needed to go. Bochy is not the answer (the Giants were brutal to watch from 2017 to 2019). Need younger leadership to help light a spark in the dugout, a younger version of Ozzie Guillen.
I feel he was vastly undervalued and would have done much more if Zaidi had made post-All Star break moves for playoff push. Melvin got Devers, Kapler got Paul DeJong.
Kapler wasn’t fired because of wins and losses. He rubbed some players the wrong way, and it wasn’t a happy clubhouse.
Midwest fan, don’t see a lot of giant games. Poor manager? Seems like he’d be a great leader. I guess a few wins short cost him his job? I mean it’s a pretty mediocre roster
Wasn’t kapler there last? New school didn’t work, old school didn’t work. You’re probably going to steal our bochy back, which is a crazy ranger misstep
If Bochy is not where they are going then I think Rocco Baldelli would be a great fit. This is a now roster, they cannot bring in someone who has ZERO MLB experience.
He’s young, MIN ownership got f’d in the Diamond sports bankruptcy and that team has had to reboot. Lot of manager vacancies however the SFG job is a really good one He doesn’t have any West Cosst_ SF connections that I am aware of, i just like the fit and how his Twins teams played as whole before ownership decided to sell.
There shouldn’t be a comma before “either.” And there shouldn’t be a comma before “too.” What a poorly written piece.