The seven-year contract extension Ketel Marte signed with the Diamondbacks last April included a five-team no-trade clause, which adds an interesting wrinkle to the trade rumors that have swirled around the former NLCS MVP in recent weeks. As reported by The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal, the Athletics, Cardinals, Giants, Pirates, and Yankees are the five teams included on Marte’s current list, which can be updated every offseason.
There are any number of reasons why a player may include a particular team on a no-trade list, and it is worth noting that Marte could still ultimately approve a deal to any of these clubs. There is no obvious geographic link between the five teams, and while the Yankees were the only member of the group to reach the 2025 playoffs, the Giants, Pirates, and even the A’s are all looking to compete in 2026. The Cardinals are in rebuild mode, so it is safe to say they weren’t in the running to acquire Marte anyway.
Interestingly, the Pirates and Giants have been linked to Marte’s trade market. Now that Pittsburgh has landed Brandon Lowe from the Rays in yesterday’s big three-team swap, the Bucs may feel their second base needs have been addressed, though there is a world where Lowe could be a primary DH and Marte could still be brought aboard. Still, there’s such a hefty amount of money remaining on Marte’s contract that a trade to the budget-conscious Pirates always seemed like an imperfect fit, and Marte’s no-trade list might well underline his own reservations about joining a team with just one winning season in the last decade.
San Francisco has also topped the .500 mark only once in the last nine seasons, but the Giants have been much more willing to spend in their bid to return to consistent contention. While ownership is wary about making another long-term financial commitment, Marte’s deal could be viewed as a relative bargain, since he would land way more than $102.5MM on a six-year deal if he was a free agent this winter.
Second base is a need position for the Giants, though perhaps not as pressing as the club’s need for more rotation help. Making a big splash in acquiring Marte might not be as big a priority, in that case, plus there are the added obstacles of Marte’s no-trade protection and the Diamondbacks’ probable reluctance to move the All-Star to a division rival. San Francisco is considered to be one of the favorites to pry Brendan Donovan away from the Cardinals, so that might end up being the Giants’ big move to address the keystone.
The Giants and Pirates each play in pitcher-friendly ballparks, which might factor into Marte’s reasoning for including the teams on his list. Sutter Health Park is extremely hitter-friendly, yet it is fair to wonder if Marte just doesn’t want to play in a minor league stadium for at least the next two seasons while the A’s await the construction of their new ballpark in Las Vegas.
The A’s have a big hole at second base, and acquiring Marte would add another top-tier bat to a lineup that already includes Nick Kurtz, Brent Rooker, Tyler Soderstrom, Jacob Wilson, and Shea Langeliers. While the A’s have been a bit more willing to spend over the last year, Marte’s remaining salary would represent a new spending frontier for the traditionally low-payroll team. Hypothetically, Luis Severino could be included in a Marte trade as salary offset, but that assumes Arizona (who needs rotation help) has any interest in Severino in the wake of his uninspiring 2025 season.
The Yankees are the most interesting inclusion on Marte’s list, as one would think he would welcome a chance to join a perennial contender. Jazz Chisholm Jr. is already playing second base in the Bronx, but Chisholm is a free agent next winter, so Marte would represent a longer-term answer at the position. Purely speculatively, any kind of Diamondbacks/Yankees trade involving Marte could see Chisholm going the other way, to give Arizona a one-year stopgap at second or third base.
Re-signing Cody Bellinger is thought be the Yankees’ top offseason priority, though New York might pivot to other backup plans should Bellinger sign elsewhere. Landing Marte would certainly qualify as a substantial Plan B, yet his no-trade clause might make any potential trade a moot point.
Amidst all of the reports and speculation, it remains unclear if the Diamondbacks actually will trade away a star player who received such a lengthy contract extension less than a year ago. With Lowe now in Pittsburgh, however, one big second-base trade chip has been removed from the board, leaving other teams in need of keystone help perhaps more open to meeting Arizona’s demands for Marte. Beyond the Pirates and Giants, such teams as the Mariners, Rays, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Phillies, and Tigers have all reportedly shown some degree of interest in a Marte trade this winter.

He hate me!
What’s he got against San Francisco and St Louis? Atheltics, Pirates, and Yankees I can understand. But what a random list
With SF, it may be that he doesn’t like hitting in that ballpark. With STL, it may be that he doesn’t like that they’re entering rebuild mode.
I don’t know when the update deadline was, but if I were him I would have picked 5 contenders I was actually linked to (maybe SF, TOR, SEA, BOS, and DET) for leverage purposes. Get a couple years tacked on or continue playing in the Arizona climate.
Yeah but then you would get traded to the Pirates.
Word for word this was going to be my reply hah
STL – 100% understandable why no one wants to be traded to the Cardinals. Long rebuild going on. Going South the last three years and going nowhere with Marmol as manager.
If Ketel Marte were to be traded to the Cardinals then this would certainly mean the Cardinals have abandoned any “rebuild mode” plans wouldn’t it??
A lot of players choose teams with large payrolls for negotiating power and not just teams they dont like. But then you might wonder why the Dodgers or Mets or both arent there. Some balance of both? Or maybe none of that. Fans dont typically get explanations about this sort of thing, but Im always curious about it also.
SF is a terrible place to hit. He may want to put up better numbers in a hitter friendly park. And STL won’t be good for at least a couple years. Make perfect sense to me.
Could just be that he thought SF was not likely to contend. I recall that Giancarlo Stanton vetoed a trade from the Marlins to SF for that same reason about a decade ago. Though, to me, the Giants don’t seem any less likely to contend than the D-backs.
His numbers are bad in San Francisco. It’s also a miserable place to play for a position player. Summer nights are mostly cold and the park itself plays like a graveyard as it’s very difficult to hit HRs there.
They’re teams who have struggled to find a 2B at some point in the last 2-3 years. Of those 5 teams, only the Yankees are ranked 15th or higher in 2B fWAR in 2022-2024. He probably doesn’t hold anything against any of the teams, but given they’ve struggled to find a 2B, they may be the teams most interested in him, and he can use that as leverage in negotations.
St. Louis isn’t really a contender right now and Busch Stadium has also been a tough place to hit in recently.
No such team as the Atheltics, Athletics, no matter how you spell it.
Pittsburgh has one of the two best pitchers on the planet, a great stadium and some interesting young players. Marte isn’t ruling out teams based on competitiveness, or else Colorado, Miami and the White Sox would be listed. My guess is there are executives, managers and players he’d like to avoid.
My guess is he really doesn’t like the Bay Area and the taxes there, he doesn’t like how Pittsburgh and St. Louis will probably be bad, and doesn’t want the New York spotlight and taxes
Keep in mind he has been in Arizona for a while now so he is used to not giving up an arm and a leg
sad mariners fan,
That’s solid logic, but why not add Mets or dodgers or marlins or
It’s not necessarily that a player doesn’t like those cities. It could be many things.
Sometimes, it’s cost of living. Maybe, he will get the Yankees to kick in a few more bucks to play there. Maybe, it’s the part of the country that’s harder on his family. Maybe, it has to do with the manager or ballpark. You never know why.
Don’t assume a player hates your favorite team or city.
The game with limited no-trade lists is almost always to figure out the 5 teams most likely to trade for you.
First, because it’s a pain to move all the time: Ketel Marte is probably settled in Arizona for the season and happy there with his family.
Second, because if one of them does make the trade, Marte has leverage. He can accept the trade if he wants or not, but he may also get something (money or perks) in exchange.
I doubt that Marte has particular animus towards any of the 5 listed cities, which is one reason his contract allows him to change it once a year. His team may well have figured out they were the 5 likeliest or the 5 Marte liked least of the likely destinations….
I am not THAT guy, but taxes in California can be rough on professional athletes. Playing on a non-winning team can make it hurt a little more. He only had 5 teams to choose from so it makes sense from that perspective.
If the list can be updated every off-season, is this the updated list or can the list still be updated?
I’m here for the answer to this
I’m wondering the same. You would think the deadline has passed by now, though.
Looks like this is the current list
I doubt it can be updated every season.
Contracts are formally signed legally binding documents. It’d be a huge nuisance to allow an amendment every year.
Pretty sure the article states he can update it every off season. Wouldn’t be difficult, just put a deadline date on there.
Right, my bad. Missed that.
I wasn’t sure if the article got updated with that info or if it was in from the start. That happens a lot
It’s not an amendment to the contract. The contract is already amended by the limited no-trade provision. It would simply be a permissible and anticipated adjustment to the amendment of the contract which was bargained for.
I feel like there should be a mom joke in here somewhere.
It feels like Arizona wants to trade Marte, even if publicly they are saying “why would we?” IF they trade him, they need to get a haul. I don’t think they will need to get him to waive his No-Trade.
His list definitely seems more “teams I don’t want to play for” more than just the usual leverage list players usually go after.
Joe says..–
You have no way of knowing that. Players often put teams on their list for a variety of reasons, sometimes to up the anti if they’re traded there, so they get additional $$ to go there.
Pete that’s why I said “seems”. Meaning that I am not 100% sure.
“ante”
Lefty
Let me amend your statement to better align with the facts…”It feels like the media, specifically this rumor site, really wants Arizona to trade Marte.”
Hazen has repeatedly said that there is zero in the works and zero that has changed since he said that it was extremely unlikely that Marte would be traded.
It’s ok I don’t want Ketel here either.
That’s ok,we don’t want you Marte either..I’d rather stick with Jazz.
Considering there’s less than 30 5 WAR players every year I’ll take every one my team can get. I’m not picky when it comes to scarce and elite players on cheap contracts.
I’m very picky of players who add my team to their no trade list. If you don’t to be here, I dont want you here. Chances are your performance will reflect this.
Might just be financial in some cases. Taxes and cost of living higher in NY and sf so wants that bargaining power to add extra year or something to contract to waive the no trade. Or he doesn’t get along with some of their players…
If that was his concern then why wouldn’t he list the other California teams or the other New York City team?
Seems to me like he picked the teams that would most need him, so that he doesn’t get traded at all. And also he hates St Louis, which is reasonable.
Does it? I feel like Boston and Seattle, maybe even Toronto, should be on his list then.
Those three teams have 2B spots Marte would control. A trade to Toronto likely soft. The assets they control won’t be market leaders and they also have Bichette’s FA. Seattle could be less interested in paying the contract so this has question marks. Boston’s front office has got a reputation for being annoying in trades despite the trades so far, it’s hard to say which way it flips but that depends on the relationship between the front offices.
So leaving those three teams out of the no-trade might not be a problem for Marte’s team. The other places might’ve been more inconvenient landing spots for Marte too. Toronto, Seattle, and Boston all have more open 2B situations, so maybe he wouldn’t be as worried about his job security.
Cleveland:
So to combine your two statements regarding Boston:
Youre saying Marte is picking teams that he thinks he’s going to, to prevent a trade. Then, you say Red Sox have a “reputation”, which I agree with.
But, would Marte honestly factor that into his thought process? Imo, I doubt he said “I wont pick Boston, because Breslow will be tough for Hazen to negotiate with and it will save me from being traded”. Players dont analyze Front Office personalities when creating their No Trade Lists.
I assume their agents help them with those strategic decisions or do them for the player.
Reggie Smith — Marte’s agent would be factoring these aspect into their play if they are worth their salt. With the goal of influencing the situation for Marte’s interest.
However, this is only part of the game. The management of preference for new destinations also is displayed. Marte probably would be fine going to these three teams because the playing situation isn’t bad: playoff hopes, limited position competition, good home park factors etc. line up fairly well.
At the moment it is just not clear what Marte really prefers.
I believe the cities that are on Martes list does not want to play stems from his own stats as a hitter, he may just not hit well in those ball parks. So, to play 81 games at a ballpark you just don’t feel comfortable as a hitter, would be the means for a long season.
desertdawg — that definitely is part of the equation. A’s clubhouse infrastructure sucks. Pirates and Cardinals aren’t winning teams. Giants don’t play in a hitter friendly field. And Yankees have Chisholm already.
myaccount
You have forgotten or never knew that Marte was traded to the Dbacks from Seattle.
Scottaz — great point about this relationship. Mariners and Dbacks trade frequently between each other.
The big drawback on a deal would be the money going to Seattle. Unless they will absorb it, the prospect capital will be steeper.
There was rumor the ask from the Dbacks was controllable starters. This could play into Seattle favor; it just isn’t clear how much, considering how strapped the Red Sox are with controllable pitchers.
“considering how strapped the Red Sox are with controllable pitchers”
What? Red Sox have too many controllable pitchers. They need to reduce the number
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“playing situation” as a factor
I doubt the best 2nd baseman in baseball is worried about it. For example Chisholm in NY has only one year left on contract. He would certainly be bumped to 3b for a season, without a problem.
I meant strapped as in armed/loaded up. In hindsight, I didn’t realize how important the ‘up’ was to the understanding of the meaning.
Yankees see Chisholm, like everyone else as a 2B. If I were Marte, I wouldn’t want to deal with that situation and would rather avoid fighting a younger guy for the keystone. In the next free years, Marte will be moving out of physical prime and having Chisholm there means there would be something to solve.
I agree. St Louis sucks. Their baseball fans are the worst. In Chicago you can walk down the street wearing any hat you want and noone says anything. But there, people make.stupid.comments when I wear a Cubs hat. Of course they always back down – a bunch of wusses!
Keyboard warrior is what you are. Hyping the myth that it matters what hat you wear at any park.
Eh, I was in St Louis enough to say their fans aren’t the worst, far from it. Overall, Philly fans. I’m sorry Philly fans, I’ve seen them play in a few different cities over a few years and each time it was the Philly fans who were doing more harassing that who ever the home team fans.
Top four worst are in some of the largest cities and largest fanbases. Philly, NY, Boston. And I say this as a Red Sox fan who feels anger and shame at my own fanbase every time I hear some horrifying story.
@ Sabermetric Acolyte And how are these four worst teams decided, by you?
Who made you ruler of the worst fans decision?
Is that decision based on heckling players?
Or heckling opponent’s fans?
Is that decision based on fans not showing up for their team home games?
Or not showing up for their team away games?
Is that decision based on those fans players opinions?
Or based on opposing team players?
Is that decision based on the fans knowledge of the game and players?
Or is that decision just solely based on your how you felt treated by opposing fans?
Go ask the players that play for each team who they feel are the best fans… for supporting them, showing up for their home and away games, packing the stadium every game, are buying a lot of their merchandise, their team’s owner believes in their fans and loves the team as much as the fans and are very knowledgeable of baseball.
Go get all these questions answered and then report to us who the real four worst teams are. I bet your decision will be wrong.
To be fair Philly is kind of common knowledge.
@ayeah, because I am the ultimate authority on everything… and if you believe I meant that seriously, then that’s on you not me.
Would it have made you feel better if I had said, “in my opinion” or “in my experience”? Because honestly, I figured on a topic of “worst fanbases” that unless I was actually using some stats that back it up, the words “in my opinion” were assumed to be implied. I was not writing an essay for peer review.
Why did I choose those four? Experience, general stories, history of the franchise and its success (arrogance factor) and frankly size of fanbase (larger the fanbase, the more jerks and more hardcore jerks).
You may have a different list. But I have a funny feeling you too would have to start with “in my opinion.”
Wrong. It would not be based on my opinion. Mine would be as said, player’s opinions or even managers, coaches and umpire opinions. They would be the only one’s who could truly say which teams fans are the worst. Because they been to each team’s field and have first hand experience how bad each of those team’s fans.
Fans or broadcasters have nothing to say with which teams are the worse fans.
Did any Phillies fan brutally injure an opponent fan? Dodgers fans did. Why aren’t they #1 for worst fans…on your so-called list? You were never at a Dodgers game? Try going to one there sometime.
Are you truly being ‘fair’ utilizing broad generalizations based on anecdotal evidence?
As a Philadelphian living in the Bay Area, I’m calling bullsh¡t.
Cant be worse than red sox fans
It is well deserved, lowly cub fans.
The Yankees have a 30/30 guy at second so cross the Yankees off of your “teams that need him” list….
SF is a terrible hitters park and the weather is often uncomfortable to play in. Plus the Giants aren’t good. Probably the teams on his list are teams that haven’t been competitive or he doesn’t like the city or playing in their ballpark.
Not for contact hitters and much better for every hitter now that the fences have been reconfigured and the public’s RF access has been tempered.
@AcidHead PNC Park, T-Mobile Park, Kauffman Stadium, Comerica Park, Progressive Field, are all worse hitters parks.
And the Giants are not bad. Apparently you’re not paying attention. Maybe it’s the acid?
😂…. From the article:
“The A’s have a big hole at second base…”
Is that called a big A-hole?
IDK, but hey Clip, you feel like there is any truth to the trade rumors around Jazz? He had a good year in 2025.
I don’t think so. My opinion, although unpopular, is to trade Jazz and replace him in FA with Bo. I believe they will keep Jazz this year, but I doubt they will re-sign him.
Free agent at next seasons end and not someone they are likely going to commit a 7-10 year deal to, so i could see the rumors being true. Yankees have George Lombard Jr. Who should be ready by the end of this season, if not the beginning of ’27. Jazz is not likely to be around
@rememberthecoop
I know I wasn’t invited to this conversation so forgive me for budging in. I think the likelyhood of Jazz getting traded is pretty small. The Yankees are going to try to win, as always, whether their actions (or lack there of) show that or not. Jazz makes the Yankees better. Personally, I think the only way they give him up is if they get offered a massive overpay with pieces that could make them better in 2026. I think there is more smoke than fire here. Who knows, I could be proven laughably wrong. Good day gentlemen!
@Yankee Clipper,
Yes, and his name is John Fisher.
Athletics, Cardinals, Giants, Pirates, and Yankees.
Nuff said.
The Mariners are the most obvious destination.
Seattle has the leverage, whether Arizona wants to admit it or not. The M’s can also trade for Donovan or do nothing. Marte will earn full no trade rights shortly after the season starts with 10/5 rights; Arizona is on the clock.
The Mariners probably don’t want to pick up his contract. Doesn’t that nullify some leverage they’ve got built with their prospects and hunt for Donovan?
Why would the Mariners have the leverage in a Marte centered deal? The Dbacks don’t need to trade Marte. There is not current log jam for prospects as Lawlar hasn’t proven he can hit consistently yet.
I don’t think the full trade rights mean much in this day’s game. He’s still hitting really well and his defense keeps improving. The deal isn’t hugely expensive either and the Dbacks fans love Marte. I don’t think they’re on the clock at all, but if the Mariners are going to give up some really great pitching, they gotta do it.
That would be so Jerry. He will trade better pieces to Arizona. Than he got for, that same player he traded to Arizona.
What are you talking about? Jerry has a track record of doing very well when making trades and anyways the original Marte trade was ten years ago, so a lot of things change in ten years to the point where they are not even comparable.
Marte is a great player, offensively & defensively. However, the fact that Arizona is considering trading him makes me wonder how bad all of those clubhouse issues really are. If there is truth to that, then I don’t lnow that I’d want to add a person like that. Clubhouse chemistry is important.
Believe the reason the Backs may trade Marte has more to do with Hazen’s inadequate team structure than any clubhouse concerns. Marte is a solid defender and batter and that is putting it mildly. Hazen sees trading Marte as a way to offset his blunders regarding never putting together a solid bullpen or looking down the road for replacement of key players. Team has so many needs and little key to acquire more talent and if traded, Hazen can turn that into a better pitching staff and maybe a third base/first base/outfield position upgrades.
Marte can play for the giants and not live in sf he can live in santa clara,los Altos or Atherton with are beautiful cities
I think the rumors of SFG interest are bogus. Why pursue a player that doesn’t want to play for you ? Makes no sense.
San Francisco is also a beautiful city, of course.
I don’t believe the trade rumors are driven by the D;Backs but by teams and fan that don’t see why their team can’t have him. And if they’re not going to compete wouldn’t Arizona trade him?
Generally speaking Arizona’s management and owner believe they can compete. Even if arm chair GM fans believe they cannot.
That a long word way of saying I don’t believe he’ll be traded.
They want young, controllable pitching and Freddy Peralta is the best starter on the trading block. The Crew has exactly what the Diamondbacks want. Marte is the perfect fit in our lineup between Contreras and Vaughn. Peralta, Pratt or Ortiz, and a top rated young pitcher should be better than anything others offer. Otherwise a Peralta for Jazz Chisholm Jr. straight up could work. The farm is too stacked not to try and make a trade.
rebuild Maybe
Freddy is a FA after 2027. So they trade Marte for only 2 years of 29 year old Peralta? I doubt that.
Peralta is a FA after this year and thanks for recognizing that I also included 2 young, controllable players with that trade.
Jazz would be trouble in term of team quemistry and administration philosophy investments.
Mariners can beat your trade pieces. The main problem is Peralta is a free agent after 2026 so Phoenix would only have him for one season. That ain’t gonna ride. Also Marte’s contract is way too big and long for Milwaukee to stomach. They wouldn’t touch that contract with a ten foot pole. It’s safe to say that the probability of Marte being traded to the Brewers is exactly 0.00%. No more, no less.
You seem to know so much! Thanks for your know everything response. I am exactly 125% smarter for reading your opinion. No more, no less.
Sorry if I came across that way. Wasn’t my intention. Your comment made me laugh though.
Maybe he takes the no trade seriously as teams he doesn’t want to play for; not as trade leverage as the author states?
A’s have a terrible stadium, SF has well known issues as a city, Pirates have been terribly run for a long time despite the best stadium in the sport, and the Yankees are loathed by many people.
– A’s are in a mess of their own with a terrible owner and terrible situation
– The Giants are division rivals and he may not have been hitting well at Oracle Park
– Pirates are cheap
– Yankees have 2B filled
Fixed all of your points.
Steinbrenner – probably the best rationale I’ve seen yet on this page for Marte’s list. It’s been very interesting reading the various ways people interpret why these particular cities got chosen. Most of them say more about the poster than Marte for sure lol.
SF is a beautiful city, and a great place to walk around. I suggest going there and seeing it for yourself sometime, as opposed to letting your opinions be formed by media narratives.
Lived in the Western Addition for a very long time. Good to know SF is still thin skinned on any civic criticism.
No. need to be defensive. I’m guessing it was a long time ago.
Anyone know where the relationship between the Red Sox and Diamondbacks front offices stand?
Hazen used to work for the Red Sox. Whether that’s good or bad is anyone’s guess.
The two teams have only ever made one major trade with each other and that was 22 years ago. I wouldn’t say it’s either good or bad, they just aren’t frequent trade partners
Hazen seems aware enough of what the Red Sox are doing, having sat behind those doors. Feels as if they aren’t ideal partners unless Hazen gets what he wants.
Marlins need to get the ball rolling here. Good player already signed a long-term contract. I think this is an easy trade for the fish. Miami sends Norby, Cabrera and low 15 prospect for Marte. Marlins get Marte. The fish lineup will be one to reckon with. Time to put some serious team on the field with all that pitching talent on hand. Bendix need to do something about this opportunity.
How much money is Arizona willing to eat? The Marlins are not the type of team that just adds a $15 million dollar salary like it’s nothing. Alcantara is the team’s highest paid player at $17.5 million, the next highest; Cabrera at $3.7 million. That’s a very large difference.
Actually it would be approximately a 12mil salary. Carreras 5, Norby 2 minus 17.5. 11.5. Long term Cabrera and Nirby will exceed Martes annual salary. So, if Arizona eats some.money it will be a heck of a deal. Just do the numbers long term. Cabrera alone will cost way more than 80 mil just in the next 3 seasons.
The Marlins are the only team that could beat the Mariners in a trade package, but I highly doubt the Marlins would take on that contract.
No real connection to his no trade list.
So write a long article that doesn’t have any real reasons why these teams are on his no trade list.
Would make sense if they discovered a reason.
Simm–It makes for very hilarious reading in the comment section. I’m glad they posted this article. Says more about MLBTR readership than it says about Marte.
I think the Diamondbacks know they made a mistake with his current deal and are desperately trying to move him before he earns full no-trade protection starting mid-April 2026 via 10-and-5 rights.
Marte’s inclusion of the yankees makes a little sense from a money perspective. Someone correct me if I’m wrong but the select team no-trade clause isn’t set in stone the moment the contract is signed.I believe it can be shifted at some point… beginning of the year, beginning of the off season, something. But only once a year. If the list was devised recently then it makes a lot of sense.
You have four teams that may want help but he wouldn’t want to be part of the rebuilding process. Then the yankees who might want the addition but who would have to promise to make his incentives part of his base salary or extra incentives or change his 2031 cheap player option into a a less cheap guarantee.
One other thing to note. If the Diamondbacks feel an incentive to trade him, they have to do it now while they have any leverage. According to Cot’s, Marte gets 10-5 rights in April. At that point h has a full no trade clause.
BTV has Marte’s trade value at $69 million
That’s more than Skubal ($60 million)
He’s a valuable player
BTV can be wildly inaccurate.
GBS
Provide evidence to support your statement
Here’s the evidence that it’s generally accurate
“Number of trades: 64
Number accepted by the model: 57
Acceptance rate: 88%
Average value variance per deal: 3.5”
baseballtradevalues.com/articles/2025-trade-deadli…
Your move.
Surprise me and have a least a bit of substance
He can’t
@gbs42 you have a valid point.
RSH
Here we have one if the many problems in the world today
One point is supported by objective data, the other point is just someone saying something with no support at all, and a certain type of person thinks the second point is the better one.
JUJH
It is true that BTV can be inaccurate, whether anyone wants to acknowledge that or not. I don’t know why you’re taking it personally, it’s not about you.
RSH
What did I say that you interpreted as me “taking it persoally”?
Also, this
“BTV can be inaccurate”
is not what he said
This
“BTV can be wildly inaccurate.”
is what he said
Can you see the difference in those two statements?
Also, since GBS didn’t see fit to do so, can YOU, provide evidence that BTV is wildly inaccurate (I need a laugh)?
“BTV can be inaccurate”
“BTV can be wildly inaccurate.”
Are literally saying the exact same thing, one with a slight embellishment to flair, for effect.
– “can YOU, provide evidence that BTV is wildly inaccurate (I need a laugh)?”-
Nobody said that it “IS wildly inaccurate”, just that “It CAN be inaccurate”. Do you not see the difference in those two statements? Again, I don’t understand why you seem to take that statement so personally. It’s not about you personally, unless you work for or own BTV.
(Thanks for the laugh.)
Muted
Thanks for the laugh again 🙂
He’s had issues with the clubhouse and gets full NTC in a few months, it makes sense to move him if they get a good offer. The Yankees fans upset because he doesn’t want to play there is funny. “He’s too soft because he cries when you insult his dead family” “Can’t handle the big market” maybe NY fans should take a look in the mirror at their collective behavior. Some of their fans take pride in the market being horrible to their players. There’s plenty of big markets who don’t have the reputation NY does.
He doesn’t seem to have anything against the city of NY, or else the Mehs would also be on the list. Seems like he just doesn’t want to play for the Yankees. Which is understandable imo.
Much rather Giants get Hoerner than Marte. Hoerner’s a much better fit
I was on the fence about the Red Sox trading for him but now that I know he’s got the Yankees on there, I say let’s dance!
Really no reason to trade him, however it’s possible the teams on the list are there so if a trade does materialize they would be open to giving him some incentive$ to approve it. $$$$$$
Or…instead of giving up the farm for Marte who is definitely a valuable player make a deal with a team who has a glut of players at 2B like the Tigers (Torres, Keith, McGonigle, McKinistry, Anderson, Lee, Jung). They have Torres there this year with McGonigle likely to take over next year. Max Anderson and Hao Yu Lee are blocked as starters and Anderson especially has huge potential. Someone like the A’s would be better served to go that route anyway. Lots of other options, other than Marte that will cost less.
You can always trade less to get lesser players.
I wonder what San Fran is offering for Marte? Jazz on a one year deal maybe a better target for San Fran but this would have to be a 3 team trade. For example if Cubs were involved and they sent Nico Hoerner to Yanks and San Fran sent players to cubs? That’s if San Fran values Jazz a perennial 30/30 all star 2nd baseman who could have been 40/40 if not injured over Nico Hoerner who is more of a contact oriented leadoff hitter?
SF is in on a possible Hoerner trade too.
But Jazz is a free agent after 2026. San Fran only want Jazz for one year ?
Buster isn’t going to bring Jazz in. He says no thank you to head cases, free spirits or whatever you can call Jazz. Doesn’t seem like his head is in the game at times. Talent definitely a plus but attitude is shaky. And I believe his defense is iffy. He fits the Yankees the best and I believe he stays there. All just my opinion though.
I feel like Marte will be the most talked about trade piece that doesn’t actually get traded. Unless Hazen has to move him i don’t think the demand is as big as the supply the media is selling. Especially with Bichette, Bregman, Suarez, Murakami, and Okamoto still free agents and Donovan, McNeil, Paredes and others available through trades
But from your list I can only see Bo and Donovan as being realistic second base options. And Bo is going to require a large contract; which will take many teams off the board. It’s really just Marte vs. Donovan in many respects. (Yes Bregman & Paredes can play second, but I don’t realistically see that ever happening.)
Bichette’s poor defense might be alleviated some by moving to 2B by whoever signs him. But usually bad defense can’t be hidden too easily except for someone moving to DH full time. I believe he is Toronto’s 2B of the future. The Jays know better than anyone if they think his offense makes up for his weak defense and will proceed based on that belief.
Rsox: If Marte gets traded it will most likely have to do with his clubhouse demeanor or lack thereof. Lots off supposed negatives from last year’s supposed vacation after the all star break. I keep saying supposed because I don’t know if anyone other than the D-backs really know what if anything happened and whether teammates were ticked off about it or not. I think if he gets traded it will answer that question. And if it didn’t happen or was much ado about nothing I believe Arizona keeps him because he’s very talented at a decent salary. I’ve wanted the Giants to acquire him for years now. And still would even if he’s put them on his no trade list. There are many ways of fixing that. Gut feeling is he stays with the D-backs.
The A’s are pretty obvious, but aren’t the other cities relatively cold in April and September?
Chester. The bay area’s best weather is August and September. That is SF’s version of summer. I really don’t think the weather in SF is a factor in signing or trading for anyone. Very seldom rains and doesn’t really get too cold as some cities early in the season. With the large amount of posts speculating on reasons for being on his no trade list, it’s entirely possible no one is correct at all. Too many possibilities.
August, September and *October.
Damn … after reading a lot of the comments I actually forgot what the article was about. Oh yeah, no trade clause that’s it.
The only dumber thing on here than Yankee fans, heretofore the pinnacle of stupidity, are the idiots who feel it’s necessary to tell everyone how bad San Francisco is compared to everywhere else. Pathetic.
why?
Where do people who insult entire groups of people based on the team that cheer for rank on the dumb scale?
Because that’s pretty dumb
You might be a Yankee fan, but the other point he made was valid, no matter who you root for.
RSH
I’m not a Yankee fan.
And what they said about Yankee fans was at least as bad as the thing that they were complaining about
That might be subjective.
RSH
Almost everything is subjective
Like this
“the other point he made was valid,”
for example.
Certainly that was subjective too, although I believe there was factuality in it.
RSH
what is the fact that was in it?
This:
-‘the idiots who feel it’s necessary to tell everyone how bad San Francisco is compared to everywhere else.’-
Considering that half or more of them have never even been to SF, but just form their opinions based on things they see on a screen, such as others of the same ilk, or politicians propaganda.
Seems like he just threw darts. There is no commonality between these teams.
Johnny Dickshot
Snuffy Stirnweiss
Orval Overall
Urban Shocker
The Only Nolan
Many others…
Often players include the Yankees and other teams in their “no-trade” clauses to gain leverage, not because they don’t want to play for that team.
Sounds like he is admitting that he wouldn’t survive the pressure of playing in New York. Enjoy playing in the boring desert of insignificance. Just another Hall of Average players.
The Mets aren’t on the list. Last time I checked, they are still in NY…..
But, but,… That’s the other NY!
IF two huge things happen, then Marte will be traded. The likely hood of both things happening is close to zero.
1. The Dbacks sign Bregman, and
2. The Dbacks get a huge return of young, controllable major league ready pitchers and position players.
What would have to happen first, the chicken or the egg? Bregman getting signed , or Ketel getting traded? The Diamonbacks have more leverage if Ketel is traded first. They lose trading leverage once Bregman is signed.
This is getting exhausting…
I’m shocked he wouldn’t want to be traded to the playoff caliber Pirates .
Protection…like he’s got on a cond*m or something…. to protect himself from NY.lol
Be jolly! Embrace the Season’s Spirit!
No trade Clause….
His agent might see the teams on his list as a way to get extra money to waive the no trade
Giants ownership said specifically that they would be very cautious about signing pitchers in particular to $100+ million, 6+ year long contracts. Not that they wouldn’t spend.
Ramos: Marte doesn’t pitch, is already signed and 2B is a position of need. If they were to trade for or sign a solid 2B it would make the Giants one of if not the best infields in baseball. Devers 1B, Donovan,Bichette, Marte and others 2B, Adames SS and Chapman 3B. Pretty solid group. As it stands now they have 3 infielders capable of 30 HR’s. 2025 is the first time since Bonds that they had just one player accomplish it. Adames. Devers hit over 30 also but not all with the Giants
I never suggested signing Marte. They’ve been in trade talks about him. I agree about the 2B spot, but I think Schmitt would be fine there too, especially with Washington as IF coach. He’s been getting better every year, and has 25+ HR power himself.
I also agree about the solid IF group. If Eldridge works out well, then make that 4 IF who can hit 30+. Devers hit most of his HR with the Giants this year, but I know not all. I watched it happen.
As Susan Slusser has pointed out, Ramos also has big power, capable of hitting 30+ HR.
The only reasons they’ve only had one player accomplish it since Bonds, is the type of players they’ve prioritized. The championship teams didn’t prioritize any big bopper, just a lot of 10-20 HR guys.
Brandon Belt undoubtedly would have hit 30 in 2021, if he hadn’t gotten injured. And he was a LH hitter FWIW.
Add Twinkies in list to stay away from they can’t add that high anyway!
Martel for Jazz. Who says no?
Would love to see Ketel Marte in middle of Phillies lineup wow. Exactly what we need offensively anyway and his contract is below market imo
-the Giants have been much more willing to spend in their bid to return to consistent contention. –
This is very true.
I’ve posted a few times now about how I believe Schmitt is going to have a breakout season next year as long as he is healthy and gets off to a good start of the seasons. And he needs as long a leash as they gave Fitzgerald last.