The Reds’ excellent rotation was the biggest reason behind the team’s return to the playoffs in 2025, and rival teams have taken notice of this talent and depth. The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal writes that Cincinnati is still getting trade inquiries about its starters, and while the Reds “remain open to the possibility if the return improves them for the present and future,” this high asking price might scare off a number of suitors.
Indeed, it might be that not much has changed on the pitching front since October, when president of baseball operations Nick Krall said he “wouldn’t say no” to the idea of dealing from the rotation. As Krall added, however, “when you trade pitchers you’ve got to go (back)fill them somehow. We all know how it works, where you run out of innings at some point in the season, guys get hurt, things happen.”
A few weeks later, both Krall and manager Terry Francona further downplayed the idea that Hunter Greene in particular would be available at the right price, with Krall noting “That’s a hard one to actually say, ‘Hey, we’re going to trade the guy that has a chance to be the ace of your staff and top-of-the-rotation guy going into the postseason.’ We’re looking to figure out how to get better, but right now that’s not on the table.”
Continuing that thread, Rosenthal writes that “rival clubs doubt their big arms are truly available,” in reference to Greene, Nick Lodolo, and Andrew Abbott. Greene is signed to an extension through at least the 2028 season, Lodolo has two years of arbitration control remaining, and Abbott is controlled through 2029 and is still a year away from reaching arbitration eligibility. Brady Singer has been more widely mentioned as a potential trade chip since he is a free agent next offseason, but Rosenthal feels the Reds would want both an MLB-ready starter and a bat for Singer’s services, which seems like a tall order.
As good as Cincinnati’s rotation was in 2025, the group is already down a couple of arms since Nick Martinez and Zack Littell are free agents. Chase Burns is one of baseball’s top pitching prospects and is penciled into the fifth starter’s role for 2026, and another top-100 prospect in Chase Petty is in the mix. Beyond these top six starters, however, the Reds have more young depth but a lot of injury-related question marks. Forearm and oblique problems limited Rhett Lowder to 9 1/3 minor league innings and no time in the majors last year, and Julian Aguiar and Brandon Williamson missed all of 2025 while recovering from Tommy John surgeries.
Like Krall implied, the “you can never have enough pitching” mantra might alone be enough to make the Reds wary about trading any of their starters and depleting the team’s clear strength. On the flip side, moving a starter (even one of the top three arms) for a premium return would allow Cincinnati to address multiple roster holes, particularly within the team’s lineup.
The Reds haven’t done a ton to upgrade their average-at-best offense, as the team has added JJ Bleday and Dane Myers while trading Gavin Lux. Cincinnati’s pursuit of Kyle Schwarber was an outlier based on Schwarber’s status as a local product, so the team’s limited payroll will likely preclude any more major expenditures unless some other money is moved off the books (i.e. Singer’s $12.75MM salary for 2026). For now, the Reds are primarily counting on internal improvements for lineup help, which is a risky endeavor in an NL Central that keeps getting more competitive.
Hunter Greene for Jackson Merrill
Not enough power but he’d fair well in cincys ballpark !
I feel bad sometimes, for Tim, for the writers and for this site. There is NOTHING to write about some days!
The baseball offseason is pretty painful.
Maybe a story about how close the Ted Williams for Joe Dimaggio trade actually was. Never get tired of that one
Not if you are a baseball fan – this is pretty typical.
Hunter Greene for Will Warren, Elmer Rodriguez, and Ben Hess.
Unless the first words out of their mouth were Spencer Jones and Jasson Dominguez, I am hanging up.
He’s got three more years of team control with an option year and at a cheap salary.
Might as well get what you need if you are moving him.
@Reds- Not happening, unless you wanna expand the deal with Ella de la Cruz. Then I would consider trading you Jones and Dominguez. If not then I’m hanging up the phone. I doubt de la Cruz is staying in Cincinnati, if he gets to free agency anyway. So you might as well get what you need, if you have to move him.
or Ben rice
This is the dumbest thing I have ever read.
Condoleezza
I wouldn’t do it for jones and Dominguez. That’s not nearly enough for Greene
Now this whole comment section has gone crazy! No way am I trading 12 controllable years of Jones and Dominguez for three of Greene. Then throw in 18 years of controllable arms for one season of De La Cruz? Yankees would hang up the phone before the end of this proposal and the exact reason small market teams are struggling to compete.
@Goetta
Nope, that would be my guy two posts above you who says they would consider a Spencer Jones and Jason Dominguez package for Greene only if EDLC were included. They would consider it 😂😂😂.
That’s what I meant!
You are right freak25! The reason small market teams struggle to compete is they continue to trade their stars for flawed prospects from the large market teams. Some on this site don’t know the 26 man rosters and even more don’t go past the 40. Proposing trades from only the limited list of players they know, without knowing what the needs are of the team they are trading with, ends up with some ridiculous results. There is no reason to think that Greene or de la Cruz would be available from the Reds. Poor defense makes Dominguez suspect, and strikeouts make Jones moreso. Keep them.
One season of Dela Cruz? He’s not even arbitration eligible yet. He’s controlled until 2029
That loud clicking sound you just heard was the Yankees hanging up….don’t get too carried away with the team and commenter hype….Green has potential, only made 19 starts last season, but he’s not Cy Young yet….
Then we’ll be happy to keep him.
You are not getting another Chapman trade here.
Rocky
If the Yankees would not trade Jones and Dominguez for Greene, the. They are not very bright. I think Yankees would do that deal and Reds would say “no way”.
Reds would want maybe Rice and Gil and Rodriguez, and to that deal Yankees would rightfully decline.
Hey you guys want Chappy back? If so call the Red Sox.
That comment said “first words” implying that even more would be required to get Greene….that’s what I relied against….The Martian and Jones might work, but I’d still be inclined to trade the Martian and a lesser prospect simply based on him only pitching in 19 games last season….is he hurt and will it re-occur….
Not a chance I’d trade Greene for Dominguez and Jones. For the RS, I’ll open up the bidding at Duran (or Abreu) + Tolle (or Early) + a 3rd nice piece.
I don’t think the Red Sox need to do that.
The Yankees would need to add a DECENT 3rd piece or a couple of better lottery tickets (aka low A teenager &/or recent draft pick fr ’24 or ’25) with real upside.
10.6 bWAR the last 2 years is past the potential phase, son.
@mlb
I don’t get why ppl still bake Gil as if he’s still a prospect instead of an mlb pitcher that’s thrown over 200 IP, striking out more than 1 better per inning with a mid 3 ERA. He does have done health concerns (same as Green) but has the Dame 4 years of control but for a whole lot less then Green. Why would the Yanks even consider a Green for Gil straight up when the idea is to add to the rotation not swap guys out?
What??? There’s no way the Reds would even consider trading him for Gil, with his 5.2 BB/9 and his shiny 1.40 WHIP. Lol. Gil is probably headed for the bullpen soon with his control issues.
@Hammerin
Please show me where I suggested the Reds wanted to make that trade? Please read again. I said why would the Yanks make that trade when A) Gil is a good pitcher in his own right B) Is less expensive than Greene C) The idea is to ADD to the rotation, not swap guys out. Now Gil is far from complete and regressed with his walk rate coming back from his injury but in 2024, his rookie season, he led the AL in walks yet still managed to sport a 3.50 era? How ? By striking out far more than 10+/9 IP and allowing 6 his/9 IP. A lot of pitchers have been successful with higher than desirable walk rate. But imagine if he gets that his control together and stays healthy? That’s an ace and the Yanks will give him enough chance to figure it out. But in the two years he’s been in the league he’s preformed at a mid 3 clip thus stop this nonsense like he’s an unproven prospect. Greene is more developed by Gil has FOR stuff and has had great results this far
Dominguez isnt an all star and Jones is a prospect
I don’t think the Red Sox need to do that.
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We don’t have to, but Greene is probably the second most valuable pitcher in BB. While I agree with Rocky that he is not a lock, he has top-10 talent and a great contract. In a world where your #4/5 SPs are Gray & Bello, I think we’d have be something close to a .600 team.
Why would the Yanks even consider a Green for Gil straight up when the idea is to add to the rotation not swap guys out?
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It’s almost too ridiculous to discuss. Gil had a 41/33 K/W last year. If Gil was the price, the RS could offer up Bello. Cincy would be too shocked to even laugh at us. Gil is not in the same ballpark as Greene.
He isn’t available now, and really won’t be once he wins the award.
You stankee fans are so delusional
Oh really….and Red fans are treating Greene as if he’s Cy Young re-incarnate……every teams fans are delusional…..you should know…..
Jasson Dominguez is an average left fielder and hitter and Spencer Jones is striking out over 35% of the time as a 24 year old in the minors.
Meanwhile, Hunter Greene’s ERA is 2.75 over his last 280 innings.
The Reds aren’t even answering the phone for a Martian/Jones package lmao.
Yep no way that’s enough.
Lol the most delusional fans are Yankees. Complete dbags
I still remember when Yankee fans said Clint Frazier or Miguel Andujar were way too much to give up for Luis Castillo
There is probably a Cy Young Award or two in his future. He’s elite.
@casey
You have to stop listening to internet rumors. Had that rumor come out in 2017-2019 when Andujar had a .855 rookie season with 27 homers and Frazier was tearing up AAA with a .950 OPPS then the Yanks would be justified considering Castillo hadn’t established himself then. But it didn’t come our then. It was some unsubstantiated internet rumors that came out in 2021 after Andujar had m major surgery in his 2nd season missed the entire year and came back and struggled with injuries and hit bat and had to go back to AAA and Frazier was now 26 on his 2nd or 3rd concussion struggling to just make it to the field..Cashman wouldn’t personally driven those two to to Cincy in winter of 2021. Ppl often bring up those two as if Frazier wasn’t a top 20 mlb prospect when he was with Indians and then traded to the Yanks or as if Andujar didn’t have a monster rookie season with 27 homers, a .300+ batting average and a .855 OPS at age 22 at a position they were desperate to fill. These things happen with prospects and to ignore that or act like it doesn’t happen to all teams is sad.
Jones is a walking red flag and the Martian was so good the Yankees are looking for more outfielders. I do think Dominguez will be a decent player but not Jones.
Almost everyone seems to be missing the point here. The Reds are still trying to field a competitive team. They’d need a huge overpay to pry away one of their top arms. They’re not out there looking to trade someone for fair value.
players: draft, trade, free agent.
they need offense to be competitive. they didn’t get any free agents of note, draft won’t help 2026, so..trade one of the 12 pitchers they have for offense. they are really staring at 2028 anyway.
I wonder if people in the Yankees front office have the same attitudes as their fans because that would explain A LOT. Next season is going to be pretty ugly for them..
@99
You are out of your mind..
@Judge
That’s an interesting choice. Merrill has like 7 years of control at a reasonable cost but Greene is a below market SP with FOR talent. I think both teams would have reservations unless other prospects were added to overwhelm them but I don’t see that happening.
@Knicks- yeah no way I’m trading Merrill for Greene if I’m San Diego. I hear Greene doesn’t want to play in NY anyway. He’s probably like Sonny Gray and scared of NY.
@99
I didn’t mention the Yanks at all. Just the trade suggested by someone for Greene for Merrill.
The Yankees are scared whenever they face him, lol.
what do the Yanks have to do with it fam?
No he just knows NY is a hellhole.
“NY is a hellhole.”
Unintelligent statement.
Plenty of people live there and l love it. Millions of people visit every year.
Maybe it’s not for everyone, but it’s objectively not a hellhole
@ekrog
When your broke, yeah but when your worth tens of millions it incredible. And honestly…. I’ve spent a lot of time in Cincinnati. They should stay in their lane… driving from downtown north on Race St is like driving thru hell. And Google “Springfield Township + meth pipe + racoon + traffic stop”. Yeah.. THAT happened, so hush Cincinnatians.
with the crime rates rising in the city, I would be too. enjoy that socialism.
Maybe it’s not for everyone
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That’s the crux of it. Some people don’t get it, and I understand that entirely. But for those of us born into it, there is nothing better.
@dpsmith22: “with the crime rates rising in the city”
This is objectively false. The murder rate is as low as it has ever been. There were 303 murders in the entire cityof New York in 2025. In the 70s, 80s, and 90s it was well over 1,000, topping 2,000 a few times, with far fewer people living there.
You’re just scared and pathetic because you get all of your news with an extreme bias. Same way you’re weak and scared of ‘socialism’, which I doubt you could even properly define.
More like a 4 team trade
Dodgers receive Hunter Greene, Paul Skenes, Tarik Skubal and cash
Tigers receive 50 year supply of Little Caesars pizza
Reds receive a cooking lesson from Guy Fieri and Gordon Ramsay on how chili doesn’t go with spaghetti pasta
Pirates receive 1 million terrible towels but have Pirates on them instead of Steelers
Tarik also is immediately offered the largest contract for a pitcher in MLB history. 25 years and 1 billion dollars since he’s 29 it’s really a 9 year deal. 15 years deferred
Tigers decline trade due to lack of crazy bread.
Crazy bread is included. Figured that went without saying. They’ll receive more crazy bread than Pizza.
*and a 2-Liter to be named later
“Tigers receive 50 year supply of Little Caesars pizza”
Interesting that they’d need to trade away Skubal just to get something from their parent company. This whole MLB set-up is too confusing for me!
It keeps the parent company in business for 50 years, ensuring they keep ownership of the team.
That part
I like Cincinnati “chili,” even if the name isn’t fitting. Skyline >>> Gold Star.
Greene for Skubal and Liranzo.
I think the Tigers should check with Milwaukee about Peralta and grab a couple minor leaguers from Milwaukee’s system to even it out. Gasser and Pratt maybe. Peralta is a step down from Skubal but not a massive one and keeps them competitive this year, the two prospects have good potential for this year and beyond. Peralta would be cheaper to sign long term.
Sorry but not enough for Greene.
For two years the Reds have not been able to add a legitimate power bat to their lineup. That is the only way I would consider breaking up this rotation. Jaren Duran, Teoscar Hernandez, Yandy Diaz could help.
I’m sure they are getting a lot of flack at Redsfest for their ineptitude at spending for a big bat and are putting this stuff out there trying to save face.
Good thing the fo doesn’t listen to the drunken rabble.
Spending on a big bat is kinda weird now with a Dodger market giving a guy like Tucker 60 per. Whats the make Bellingers ask? Royals have been looking for an OF power bat too. Crickets
@redhaze There has been limited options in free agency and the top bats seem to be getting a premium and then some.
Aside from making a push for Beli and adding the yr(s) NYY won’t, a trade seems their only option. Id assume thats the whole premise of trading a SP.
What you don’t think Jeimer Candelario was a good use of resources!?
Lowder for Alec Burleson
None of those three are nearly good enough to headline a package for Greene. Duran has some value though.
TBH, I’m not sure what we could offer them to make it fair. According to MLB, we have three top-100s after the promotions-Arias, Tolle & Witherspoon, and I am pretty sure the Reds ain’t going for that.
The Reds hit 1 more HR than Milwaukee and they won 97 games. Francona needs to run like they did before he got there. The Reds stole 100 less bases in 2025 than they did in 2024 despite hitting 14 points higher as a team
The difference between the Reds and Brewers is Milwaukee plays better defense and hits for average.
Hunter Greene for Vientos, Sproat and Mauricio
Can’t imagine the Reds would even consider that. Mauricio has literally zero value and Vientos is pretty close behind. Sproat is a solid prospect but you’re going to want more than that for Greene.
Not sure why people think vientos is useless after a soph slump that followed a terrific first full year. Plenty of players go through that. I can see him bouncing back nicely this year w the bat.
I expect a bounce back, but no glove a huge Ks, he has limited value. I’d like him for the RS, but only to back up Mayer at 3rd, and as a short-side platoon with Yoshida.
@Ma4170: I don’t think he’s useless but his trade value is almost zero. As a Mets fan, I would rather keep him than sell low.
@Ma4170
You can see that, but the Mets, who know him better, have given up on him. He has no position other than bench. That’s why he has no value.
I know he’s definitely not a headliner right now for an upper tier player, but i think his bat will play again. He played 1b at times in the minors, and in his limited looks there in MLB, he’s been fine. His lack of range doesn’t hurt him as much there.
A classic “our failed prospects that no longer have value for a top player” trade proposal.
The conversation has to start with benge or they hang up
Probably has to start with McLean.
@oppo
I don’t see why. Mets have other top 100 guys w big upside. Jett, tong, sproat… and other soon to be top 100s im sure in ewing, santucci, pena
They don’t need to include mclean or benge in deals bc they have a lot of quality depth. In fact, Baty should definitely get the Reds’ attention in a trade.
@ma4 if it wasn’t Greene I’d agree and I mostly said benge because the reds biggest weakness spot is the outfield.
You have to be a Mets fan.
You need a strong rotation and depth, for when starters go down. The Reds should NOT give up any rotation pieces. I’m pretty happy with their lineup, They’ll have a healthy De La Cruz, a full season of Noelvi Marte, Sal Stewart, an improved (I hope) McLain, a deep and skilled rotation and an improved bullpen. They picked up Bleday and Myers to form a platoon for LF. I would prefer them adding Austin Hayes, Miguel Andujar or Harrison Bader, to play LF. None of these three would break the bank. I just don’t think that Bleday and Myers can contribute enough with their bats to improve last year’s sorry production from our LF position.
Is this someone in the front office? You were actually happy with their lineup last year and you think it’s somehow going to be better this year by adding Austin Hays? Austin Hays is great, but not an improvement to last year, because he was like, on the team already.
Hays is good but the reason he doesn’t break the bank is because he’s seen to be most effective as a platoon hitter, and unfortunately one who has a tendency to get hurt. Otherwise he’d probably be signed by now.
I agree with about everything you just said.
I agree they shouldn’t give up a starting pitcher and keep the rotation in tact. On offense you do realize that Marte was 99 ops+ last year which is not quite an average hitter. In fact we only have 3 players returning that had a better than average 100 ops+, EDLC, Friedl & Steer. Stewart also had an above average ops + but in fewer than 100 at bats. “An improved McLain I hope”. A hope is not a plan so plan on Mclain & Hayes both being sub .700 ops for the season unless they are .900 at the all star break. Players are what they are until they are something different.
I have been at Redsfest all weekend and get the feeling we are going to with what we have at this point for the most part. Our best chance to add a left handed power bat which is what we need was a missed opportunity. Since the rays ended up with lux they must have also wanted him a month ago when they traded Brandon Lowe to the pirates. We should have traded lux and a top 10 prospect along the lines of maybe petty or a former prospect that has not been able to stick yet like CES for Brandon Lowe. Lowe would have fit our budget, has a career 123 ops+, averages 34 home runs per 162 games. We could have also signed Ryan Ohearn who would have fit the budget as well although not as good as Lowe.
No left handed power bat free agents left that would move the needle other than bellinger and reds can’t afford him. I can’t think of any that might be on the trade market either.
It would have been fun to see Lowe hit in Great American.
Though my o’s still need to add a top of rotation arm, if I’m the reds I keep my rotation intact unless they get a ridiculous offer from someone. You can literally never have enough pitching as mentioned above.
It sounds like they pretty much said that as they should. If they want a solid big leaguer, they need to offer some that gets your attention.
Hays is good but the reason he doesn’t break the bank is because he’s seen to be most effective as a platoon hitter, and unfortunately one who has a tendency to get hurt. Otherwise he’d probably be signed by now.
Sorry, posted my Hays comment in the wrong place.
That Reds may want something from the O’s like Jackson Holliday, Coby Mayo and Samuel Basallo for Hunter Greene. That’s just me speculating and honestly, even though it’s too much, it’s not hugely off the mark.
I’d say Mountcastle for a starting pitching prospect (they have a few) would be a good deal for both considering their issues.
That doesn’t help either team now. The O’s have a few strong pitching prospects, one of whom, Trey Gibson, made Fangraphs top 100. He may make the team at some point in 2026 but the O’s need a top arm now. Likewise the Reds need big bats now. Mountcastle can help the Reds but he’d be a small piece.
Eldridge and Ramos for Greene.
Would.
I’d be excited for everyone concerned !
Giants fans desperately seeking ANY trade at this point.
I’d even throw in a young pitcher. Greene is good. Dominated us.
I think if Buster was gonna trade Eldridge we would’ve seen it before now. Literally every team’s first ask.
I’m thinking the sellers are riding it out to the death.
Certainly looks like it.
The “aggression” seems to not have worked yet anyway..
Should have said hoping instead of thinking. At least they appear to be at work on the trade front. See what happens.
Apparently people missed the part about the top three starters off the table.
This is a whole lot of nothing because nothing is going to happen. They’ve done all they are going to do and fans will be disappointed in the results again.
A waste of a lot of good young guys careers once more.
If the Reds could spend even a little, Geno or Bader would help that offense and both wouldn’t require too many years to sign them. I’m not saying going bonkers, but just a little bit of spending and they can at least get a Wild Card spot.
Both are requiring 3.
Neither have gotten three. Two might be most they get.
I’ve always had an unhealthy bro- crush on Miggy Andujar. In the last two years he’s absolutely manhandled lefty pitching while also holding his own vs righties. He can hit eithe2r but would be an excellent choice for a team with an open DH opening and maybe a good counterpart for a LF platoon partner if you don’t mind less than stellar defense. I don’t think you want him at 3b for anything other than an emergency if he’s as questionable as I remember.
Hunter green should only be traded for a top 2 pitching prospect from some team plus a top 5 pitching prospect plus a top 20 pitching prospect , the first one from triple A and the other two from double A and single A . Otherwise keep him until trade deadline of his final controllable season.
@Yellow
Who do you think he is Chelsea Clinton?
J’mon Lee!
People always want to bring up Green or Singer. Lodolo seems to me to be the best candidate.
He’s arguably the best pitcher when healthy. Of the three, he’s the one I would like to keep because he would bring back a below value return. Greene is an ace with more control and has the reputation of being an ace and would bring back a huge return.
Wow…down boy….know from your moniker that you’re a Reds homer but “reputation of being an Ace” is a bit of a stretch…even Francona said he has a chance at being an Ace and a TOR guy….but he has to pitch more than 19 games to earn that moniker around the league….
Rocky7 I’m a bit confused – What pitcher are you talking about? Hunter Greene and Nick Lodolo have each started more than 19 starts most of the years they have been active.
I agree that he needs to put up innings before he gets the ace level, and he’s not bulletproof. But at 250 IPs over the past two seasons, he ranks #7 in ERA. Even without the IPs, I think he has to be considered a #1.
But more importantly, he has four years left. How many times do you have an opportunity for a #1 with 4 years left?
@ rocky He’s already an ace, dude.
I was speaking directly about Greene who started 19 games last season….who cares what he did 2-3 years ago….when you’re orchestrating a trade for the capital that you Reds fans think Greene is worth, his most recent history matters a lot more than the past…..that’s what I was speaking about…
Joe…agree, he may be the Reds #1 but he needs to show he can be a horse as far as carrying the load in starts before we all start comparing him to Cy Young like some comenters on this site are doing….
Yeh…a 19 inning Ace…you need to up your standards dude
I think you meant 107-150 inning ace.
who cares what he did 2-3 years ago…
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If you only care about last year, then Dominguez is a 0.5 bWAR player.
Rare pitchers get 200 innings a season now. I agree he needs to get 162 innings a season to increase value but instead of trading him why not keep him and get the 162 innings out of him? If he pitches 162 it puts him in the running for stats like era & era + which he likely would be top 3 in the league along with top 3 in strikeouts and the potential to put up a lot of wins if he can get run support which is not given with the reds lack of signing a big bat. However if he can get 162 innings he could win a cy young and at least finish top 5 in voting for it.
I thought sure they were gonna do a deal with him and the Red Sox for Duran or Abreu
They need more than either. Duran is a leadoff or #2 hitter. Abreu has the potential for power but not a proven commodity yet IMO. The reds need a proven cleanup hitter that has put up multiple 30+ home run seasons, bats left handed and whose contract or commitment from the reds out past age 33. I am beating a dead horse here and another metaphor the ship has already sailed…Brandon Lowe was all of that and due $11.5 million in 2026. The reds let the pirates get him from the rays for a couple of prospects. The rays evidently wanted Gavin lux and i can’t figure out why the reds didn’t send lux and a prospect for Lowe last month.
I am expecting Cincinnati to trade all their pitchers by the end of today. It would be a bold move that may actually pay off.
This is the kind of comment that I wish we were allowed to post gifs on here. There’s only one gif that would be perfect for this. One Pepper Brooks from dodgeball. One of Jason Bateman’s most underrated roles.
A roster built around pitching in a hitter’s park, clever.
@raulp
Framber Valdez or Marcus Stroman would both be good for that ballpark. Both are above average GB pitchers.
Nobody is going to give both a bat and starting pitcher for Singer.
Yeah I have to wonder if they meant either or
Both would be lottery tickets.
CIN Hunter to LA
LA Ships off Josue De Paula, Zyhir Hope, River Ryan, Bobby Miller and/or Freeland or Ferris
Unless there is a major league ready slugger involved, there is no sense in dealing him three years early and they hang up.
That’s the most decent proposal yet
That is a well thought out trade suggestion
Sub in Pages so you get your guy who can help this year. LA has Edman to cover his spot.
I think it’s either De Paula or Hope.
Hope, Ryan, Miller, Freeland, and Ferris.
However that’s light so you have to add in.
Any of those hit 30 home runs last year? No then no thanks.
Did I not say it’s light?
Elly for over 225 mil and now he’s regretting it
He’s definitely not regretting that. He could triple that.
He’ll get more, way more.
if the reds trade Greene or singer, they will need to start with
a bat that will give eilly protection in the lineup and also, I know they have plenty, but a sp that will eat innings.
I wouldn’t be too concerned about Cincy’s “average at best” offense. The average age of the batting lineup will be 26 on Opening Day. They’re young and talented, and I expect to see some collective ascendence with improvements from Elly, McLain, Marte, and a full season of Sal Stewart. These four have the potential to be a really strong core of the offense.
five years….stuck on my eyes. five years,..what a surprise. five years..my brain hurts a lot. five years…that’s all we’ve got
Honestly, their lineup low-rolled in 2025. They can run that same unit and easily expect 10% more in 2026. I’d be more worried about the bullpen.
What about the bullpen concerns you?
Well, the closer pitched better than usual in his walk year and they re-signed him. He’s due for some regression, for one thing.
You had me in the first half
No *sh—“ Sherlock…
The Reds have one of the worst ownerships and front office in the league,you know teams will want to mess the over again
Pitcher FGDC projection, BTV
Greene 3.90 3.6/184, $86
Burns 3.68 2.6/124, $73
Lodolo 4.04 2.4/154, $31
Singer 4.35 2.3/176, $10
Abbott 4.63 2.0/168, $39
Lowder 4.51 0.7/64, $20
Petty 4.85 0.2/18, $10
Take those with a grain of salt. At the end of the year, you will see what really happened. Then you can assess the accuracy of these projections.
wh
Have we had this conversation before? Are you just repeating yourself?
Just say that you don’t understand what projections are.
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Skills: Strong analytical, mathematical, and problem-solving skills, plus good communication.
STATS, Inc. (now Stats Perform): In 1991, five years after becoming a Fellow in the Society of Actuaries, John Dewan left his career at Aon Insurance to found STATS, Inc.. The company pioneered real-time, in-depth sports database technology and was later sold for $45 million to Fox News in 2000.
Baseball Info Solutions (BIS) / Sports Info Solutions (SIS): After his non-compete expired, Dewan started Baseball Info Solutions (often referred to as Sports Info Solutions or SIS). This firm specializes in in-depth baseball data, including the development of “Defensive Runs Saved” and The Fielding Bible. SIS now provides analytics to over 25 Major League Baseball teams and has expanded into football.
Prediction Machine: Paul Bessire, a former actuary, co-founded Prediction Machine to provide predictive analytics and, as CTO/Chief Data Officer, helped transition these skills into the sports space.
TeamRankings.com: Mike Greenfield, who has an background in data analytics, co-founded this sports analytics site.
TransferLab: Bart Huby, an actuary, helped develop the TransferLab football analytics software in collaboration with Analytics FC.
But the point of life is projections. I could tell you happened in 2025, but there is no point to it.
Actually, there is.
Past data inform predictions. They are integral to the process. They are the essential starting point. Without information, predictions are merely guesses.
There’s just no need to rush a SP trade by Cincy. The sellers market for SP will only become more intense as injuries mount. Reds will know a lot more about what they can deal as well as what they need in return come May or even July. It is possible and I think likely that several of th Reds starters will command more trade interest and higher returns a little later.
I agree at this point. They could have traded Greene at the beginning of the offseason then reinvested those dollars but might as well ride this lineup and rotation out and see what develops
Krall is lying or a fool.
He needs offense and he has major league pitchers and pitchers coming. He has to deal from a position of strength and get some bats.
And Leon’s getting larger!
Duran and Bello for Hunter Green
Damon’s last year with the Red Sox: 95-67
Damon’s first year gone: 86-76
Ellsbury’s last year with the Red Sox: 97-65
Ellsbury’s first year gone: 71-91
I don’t understand the rabid desire to trade Duran.
I am NOT comparing these three players, ONLY their role in the Red Sox lineup. When you get rid of your top of the order guy, who helps your offense, you take a step backwards,
Hunter Green for Red Schoendienst, Devon White and Vida Blue.