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Will Cards Trade For Pitching?

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We discussed this just a week ago, but the St. Louis Post Dispatch is again questioning whether the Cardinals might trade for a starter.

The focus is again on Jon Lieber, Carl Pavano, and whoever the Dodgers might give up (Mark Hendrickson?)  The Cardinals don’t really need any of these guys, but rumors will probably float about all spring because much of their rotation is unproven.  I say, trust the youth!  PECOTA has Reyes at a 3.89 ERA, Wainwright at 4.00.  Thus the team has one ace, two very solid youngsters, a nice project in Kip Wells in the #4 slot, and a host of solid candidates for the last.  I know there’s a faction of Cardinals fans who think their rotation is better than last year’s.  I agree.

The article also mentions that Walt Jocketty will attempt to sign David Eckstein to an extension this spring.  PECOTA says $21MM for 2008-10.  Shouldn’t be a problem. 

One more Cardinal-related note: Phil Rogers has a source saying Kenny Rogers was using "the tacky adhesive used by trainers in wrapping ankles."

Will Cards Trade For Pitching?

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We discussed this just a week ago, but the St. Louis Post Dispatch is again questioning whether the Cardinals might trade for a starter.

The focus is again on Jon Lieber, Carl Pavano, and whoever the Dodgers might give up (Mark Hendrickson?)  The Cardinals don’t really need any of these guys, but rumors will probably float about all spring because much of their rotation is unproven.  I say, trust the youth!  PECOTA has Reyes at a 3.89 ERA, Wainwright at 4.00.  Thus the team has one ace, two very solid youngsters, a nice project in Kip Wells in the #4 slot, and a host of solid candidates for the last.  I know there’s a faction of Cardinals fans who think their rotation is better than last year’s.  I agree.

The article also mentions that Walt Jocketty will attempt to sign David Eckstein to an extension this spring.  PECOTA says $21MM for 2008-10.  Shouldn’t be a problem. 

One more Cardinal-related note: Phil Rogers has a source saying Kenny Rogers was using "the tacky adhesive used by trainers in wrapping ankles."

Pavano On The Trade Market

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Pretty much anyone you ask would tell you Philip Hughes is likely to outpitch Carl Pavano this year.  Any projection system or scout would tell you that the Yankees will win more games with Hughes as the fifth starter than Pavano.  Why then is Pavano, and not Hughes, penciled in as the team’s fifth starter?  The reason is that Pavano is due $23 million over the next two seasons. The Yankees want to get something out of him.

Best move for everyone would be to trade him.  Jon Heyman of SI.com tells us that the Rockies wanted the Yankees to cover $15MM of the $20MM remaining on his deal.  (Although I do believe Pavano is owed $23MM if you include his buyout).  Maybe that means Colorado would take Pavano at the price of $8MM over the next two seasons?  Who wouldn’t?  Ramon Ortiz just got three mil.  However, at this point the Rockies don’t need any more starters.

Heyman goes on to say that if Pavano can show promise this spring, the Yanks might get a team to take on $12-13MM of the money owed to Pavano.  So, the team would pay $10MM over the next two seasons.  Still not too bad, especially for an NL club looking to get creative (Cardinals?) 

Pavano is on a rigorous workout regimen in hopes of returning to a Major League mound and redeeming himself.

Pavano On The Trade Market

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Pretty much anyone you ask would tell you Philip Hughes is likely to outpitch Carl Pavano this year.  Any projection system or scout would tell you that the Yankees will win more games with Hughes as the fifth starter than Pavano.  Why then is Pavano, and not Hughes, penciled in as the team’s fifth starter?  The reason is that Pavano is due $23 million over the next two seasons. The Yankees want to get something out of him.

Best move for everyone would be to trade him.  Jon Heyman of SI.com tells us that the Rockies wanted the Yankees to cover $15MM of the $20MM remaining on his deal.  (Although I do believe Pavano is owed $23MM if you include his buyout).  Maybe that means Colorado would take Pavano at the price of $8MM over the next two seasons?  Who wouldn’t?  Ramon Ortiz just got three mil.  However, at this point the Rockies don’t need any more starters.

Heyman goes on to say that if Pavano can show promise this spring, the Yanks might get a team to take on $12-13MM of the money owed to Pavano.  So, the team would pay $10MM over the next two seasons.  Still not too bad, especially for an NL club looking to get creative (Cardinals?) 

Pavano is on a rigorous workout regimen in hopes of returning to a Major League mound and redeeming himself.

Will Cards Trade For A Starter?

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The Cardinals’ rotation consists of Chris Carpenter, Kip Wells, Anthony Reyes, Adam Wainwright, and some combination of Mark Mulder, Brad Thompson, and Ryan Franklin.  Why is this any worse than rotations of past excellent Cardinal teams?  I think Thompson is quite underrated and could be one of the league’s better fifth starters.  Health/durability risks will require depth, which I think the Cardinals have. 

Still, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch mentions the Cardinals will "sift through the trade market this spring."  Trade candidates include Jon Lieber, Brad Penny, and Carl Pavano.  I assume the Cards wouldn’t have interest in Mark Hendrickson.  I suppose if they could snag Liebs or Pavano for a couple of autographed Fernando Tatis jerseys, it’s worth it.  But the Cards don’t really have a surplus of anything to use to acquire a front-line guy like Penny.   

Will Cards Trade For A Starter?

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The Cardinals’ rotation consists of Chris Carpenter, Kip Wells, Anthony Reyes, Adam Wainwright, and some combination of Mark Mulder, Brad Thompson, and Ryan Franklin.  Why is this any worse than rotations of past excellent Cardinal teams?  I think Thompson is quite underrated and could be one of the league’s better fifth starters.  Health/durability risks will require depth, which I think the Cardinals have. 

Still, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch mentions the Cardinals will "sift through the trade market this spring."  Trade candidates include Jon Lieber, Brad Penny, and Carl Pavano.  I assume the Cards wouldn’t have interest in Mark Hendrickson.  I suppose if they could snag Liebs or Pavano for a couple of autographed Fernando Tatis jerseys, it’s worth it.  But the Cards don’t really have a surplus of anything to use to acquire a front-line guy like Penny.   

Buehrle Expected To Leave White Sox

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At SoxFest yesterday, there was an amusing back-and-forth between Kenny Williams and Mark Buehrle.  While they were in the same room, they exchanged barbs through reporters.

Buehrle feels Williams said directly that the southpaw would not be back with the Sox in ’08.  It seems that Williams alluded to that in a more roundabout way, however.  Bottom line: both parties seem to agree that Buehrle will price himself out of the White Sox’s range.

The lefty needs a major bounce-back season to snag the huge deal he seemed in line for before 2006.  He posted a 6.44 ERA in the second half of ’06.  He’ll probably give the Cardinals a decent hometown discount and eventually work something out with Walt Jocketty.  Still, would he take less than five years and $60MM?

The Cardinals could easily be Buehrle’s third team, as Williams might want to exchange Buehrle for some nice prospects before 2007 ends.  A lot will depend on the development of young pitchers and the team’s place in the standings.

Jeff Weaver Info

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Viva El Birdos has some inside info concerning free agent Jeff Weaver.  Larry writes that Scott Boras plans to hold out for 4/40, but Weaver really wants to return to St. Louis and is getting antsy.

The Mariners or Dodgers could still make a play for Weaver as well.  The Dodgers would really be stacked in the rotation, but maybe it would be to complement a trade.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch mentions this morning that the Cards have a two-year offer out to Weaver and expect a decision on that this week.  Joe Strauss adds the Mets to the list of other possible suitors.

Cards Still In On Weaver

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UPDATE: Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch says negotiations have "intensified" between Weaver and the Cards.  Walt Jocketty indicated that Weaver is the only possible addition to the rotation at this point.  His limit for Weaver is two years.

With Carpenter, Wells, Reyes, Wainwright, Thompson, Mulder, and Franklin, I think the Cardinals can cobble together a respectable rotation in the NL Central this year.  However, Walt Jocketty said today that he’s still in conversations with Jeff Weaver’s people.

On one hand, the Boras group drives a hard bargain.  On the other, St. Louis may be the best place for Weaver to get his career back on track.  My guess?  Jocketty probably wants him for something like two years and $16 million.

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