12:29am: The Cubs are sitting on multiple proposals for Lilly, tweets Rosenthal. The Dodgers are in the mix, but the two sides are still apart on money and players. He adds that the Dodgers find themselves in a similar position with the Pirates' Paul Maholm.
11:49pm: It's unlikely that the two sides get a deal done tonight, but talks are moving in a "positive" direction, a source tells Jayson Stark of ESPN (via Twitter).
10:53pm: The Dodgers and Cubs are closing in on a deal, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney (via Twitter).
10:37pm: The Cubs are discussing two possible scenarios with the Dodgers, according to ESPNLosAngeles.com's Tony Jackson. One would send Lilly to LA and the other would send Lilly to LA along with teammate Ryan Theriot. FOX Sports reported early this morning that the Dodgers could acquire Theriot. ESPN.com's Jayson Stark confirms that the Yankees are in on Lilly and notes that they also inquired on Theriot (Twitter link).
10:21pm: The Cubs continue discussing Lilly with the Yankees and Dodgers, according to Ed Price of AOL FanHouse (Twitter link).
9:49pm: The only thing preventing the Cubs from sending Lilly to the Dodgers is money, according to ESPN.com's Jayson Stark (via Twitter). The clubs can't agree on how much money the Cubs would take on, but it could be enough to prevent a deal from happening.
8:59pm: The Yankees are still in on Lilly, according to Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times (Twitter link). The Padres had discussions about Lilly, but nothing is imminent, according to Dan Hayes of the North County Times (Twitter link).
8:24pm: The Dodgers remain active on Lilly and seem intent on acquiring him or Pirates lefty Paul Maholm, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter link). Click here for the latest on Maholm.
3:18pm: The Reds have a "remote" chance of obtaining Lilly, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (Twitter links). The clubs haven't spoken in recent days, but the Reds are not on Lilly's no-trade list.
2:10pm: The Tigers still aren't out on Lilly, reports ESPN's Jayson Stark. He adds that a mystery team is in the mix. Hard to pin down a reasonable match, with the Padres not interested.
Rosenthal tweets that the Dodgers are more inclined to get Lilly without Theriot.
2:05pm: The Dodgers are talking to the Cubs about a multiplayer deal that would include Lilly and a position player, tweets Dylan Hernandez of the L.A. Times. Hernandez does not believe Theriot would be the position player. By the way, Tom Krasovic of AOL FanHouse tweets that the Padres are not a fit for Lilly.
11:58am: The Dodgers are waiting for Lilly's cost to come down, tweets Yahoo's Tim Brown. He notes that they're also monitoring Paul Maholm and Jason Frasor. The Pirates are willing to move a starting pitcher for the right price, GM Neal Huntington told Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
7:10am: The Dodgers and Cubs are discussing a trade that could send Ted Lilly and Ryan Theriot to Los Angeles, report Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. They say it's not known whether a deal is close. The Cubs would need to kick in cash – Lilly has $4.3MM remaining and Theriot has $933K.
Theriot received a $2.6MM salary for 2010 after losing an arbitration case to the Cubs in February. He's under team control through 2012; the FOX writers see him taking over at second base for the Dodgers. It doesn't seem to be the strongest need for them, with Blake DeWitt currently outperforming Theriot and Jamey Carroll and Ronnie Belliard also on the roster.
There aren't a ton of great matches for Lilly at this point, as action with the Tigers, Twins, and Mets has cooled and the Phillies are out of the mix. I wonder if we'll hear anything about the Cardinals and Padres looking at the lefty.
Wow, that’s strong.
I’m gonna miss that Ted Lilly, I tell ya.
Who would the Dodgers trade??
My guess would be James McDonald, Travis Schlitting, Corey Wade etc. The Cubs would probably wan’t near major league ready pitching. Plus some A ball bats.
I don’t see them trading Dee Gordon for those kinds of players and I don’t see the Cubs wanting Xavier Paul with their OF already a logjam.
Disclaimer: I’m probably wrong, but I think that those type of players would be logical.
If Ely was dealt to the Northside, his dad may just fall short of disowning him
I’d hope they’d trade from a list consisting of guys like McDonald, Elbert, Ely, Troncoso, Wade, Link, Leach, Schlichting, Hu, DeJesus Jr., Hoffmann, Paul… and nothing more valuable than those guys.
I’ve been hoping from the get go that the Cubs would do some sort of “Casey Blake” trade where they’ll kick in the cash for an improved prospect. We’ll see if it actually happens…one thing about this bothers me, though…
Doesn’t this just remind you of the ole Pirates trades Hendry has made? Getting Aramis Ramirez & Kenny Lofton or (to a much lesser extent) John Grabow & Tom Gorzellany. Doesn’t feel as good to be on the bad end of these things — hopefully we get something good on this.
I would love to see the Cubs get Jerry Sands (AA 1st baseman) in this deal!!
Can anyone give info on some of the decent minor leaguers in the Dodgers farm system? Pardon my ignorance of it…I’ve heard they have good pitching, not much beyond that.
Holy crap, Jerry Sands looks like a beast with how he has played thus far.
Yes, Jerry Sands would be a major coup for the Cubs, if they could make that work! Dee Gordon is another really good position player (Tom “Flash” Gordon’s son) but pretty much untouchable.
Sands is an older player, playing over his head at a level that he should dominate. Think Jake Fox. I’d target one of their arms like Withrow, Miller, or Martin. Gordon will be a tough get from LA, so perhaps go after a young position player like OF J. Garcia.
“Sands is an older player, playing over his head at a level that he should dominate. ”
Ah … Jerry Sands is 22 years old. He hit 19 homeruns in 2009, and has 29 homeruns this year. This kid is the real deal!
That’s why I brought up Fox – good minor league stats don’t always translate into a good major leaguer. Compare their stats relative to how far along they were in the minors, and consider how Fox has done in the majors. Not saying Sands can’t buck that trend, but color me skeptical.
You really don’t know what you are talking about. Sands started the year repeating Low A ball, but completely dominated. People were skeptical because at his age that success at Low A was less meaningful. He stayed at low A up until playing in and winning the Midwest league allstar game MVP. Then he was promoted skipping high A and going all the way to AA, a real challenge. Thing is his production has not suffered, in some ways it has in fact improved. A 22 year old dominating AA is not a bad thing, far from it. At the rate he is going Sands could see time in AAA next year if not the Majors and definitely seems like he would be ready to hit the majors at 24 in 2012. Lilly is not worth even close to a prospect like him, but I am just letting you know that your Jake Fox comp is way WAY off.
Fox never showed the patience, speed, or hitting ability Sands has shown and definitely not at 22 in AA. Sands has more power as well.
“good minor league stats don’t always translate into a good major leaguer.”
Genius. And often they do translate.
I’m going to say that a 1.019 OPS in AA as a 22 year-old is actually pretty good.
That’s why I brought up Fox – good minor league stats don’t always translate into a good major leaguer. Compare their stats relative to how far along they were in the minors, and consider how Fox has done in the majors. Not saying Sands can’t buck that trend, but color me skeptical.
@dbreer23: WTF Man? I think it must be a case of mistaken identity. Either that or you really are 13 years old.
Nope, 36 y.o. thanks for asking.
Nice try. He’s young. How old are you calling 22 old? I better go shop for a cane.
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I will miss these guys dearly if they are moved, however I realize it is for the best and have been pushing for these types of moves for the last couple months. Both ted and theriot have worked their tails off for this club and deserve nothing short of a honorable send off by us cubs fans. In a way it is sad because there are so many bad apples on this team and we are sending off two (of the few) guys that are hard working, competitive and simply shut their mouths and play. I guess it is fitting for the Jim Hendry era. Hopefully we can get something of value back, especially if we are covering a portion of Lilly’s contract.
I want to trade with Ned Coletti.
With all of the middle infield injuries the Phillies have had and it appears that they are gearing up for a run, I’d offer Lilly and Theriot for Jason Werth! Since both Lilly and Werth are free agents after this year, maybe it would work?!?
I think that the Victorino injury essentially pulls Werth off of the market.
Why on Earth would you want a rental player if you’re the Cubs? They’re not going to win this year, and it’s going to cost a small fortune to bring him back. The Cubs’ outfield is expensive enough, not to mention overcrowded. If anything, we want to be LOSING an outfielder, not gaining one.
The only way I would ever consider this if I were Hendry is if I had a deal in place to flip Werth for some good prospects.
I think you may be a bit delirious in your estimation of Ryan Theriot’s abilities. He is Augie Ojeda.
No wonder you’re a Sox fan and I think you are more than delirious if you think Augie Ojeda holds a match to Theroit. The most hits Augie Ojeda has had in a season was 65. Theriot passed that about 50 games ago. If you’re going to undervalue Theriot, at least make it comparable, using Ojeda just exposes your southside bias and lack of baseball knowledge.
I think you may be a bit delirious in your estimation of Ryan Theriot’s abilities. He is Augie Ojeda.
Can any Dodger fan tell me what the deal is with Blake DeWitt? He seems like a nice player from afar, but the Dodgers seem to want to put up a roadblock to keep him out.
Is my impression wrong?
He is not the strongest defensive 2B in the world. Other than that I don’t get it either. Theriot is a good addition to any club, he can play both MI positions.
lets just say if you looked up the word serviceable in the dictionary his face would be their
Thanks. “Serviceable” isn’t really all that bad for a player making minimum.
They need some rotation help more than they need infield help.
i never said it was im just saying they might want someone better. idk the dodgers just dont care for him he just hits 270 with like 5 hrs and 40 rbis in a season and he plays AGAIN serviceable defense if you want to win hes not the best second baseman around.
Thanks. “Serviceable” isn’t really all that bad for a player making minimum.
They need some rotation help more than they need infield help.
DeWitt is a better fielder at 3B, where he naturally plays. In order to keep him in our system, and give him playing time (after they signed Casey Blake), they moved DeWitt to 2B. To answer your other question, re: “roadblock” – don’t you know? That’s the Dodgers way of doing things…block your younger, better, cost controlled players & bring in crusty, over-paid, washed-up veterans, because that’s what Ned Colletti & Joe Torre get a hard-on for.
I did not know he was a position switch. That explains a lot.
DeWitt is a better fielder at 3B, where he naturally plays. In order to keep him in our system, and give him playing time (after they signed Casey Blake), they moved DeWitt to 2B. To answer your other question, re: “roadblock” – don’t you know? That’s the Dodgers way of doing things…block your younger, better, cost controlled players & bring in crusty, over-paid, washed-up veterans, because that’s what Ned Colletti & Joe Torre get a hard-on for.
Only way we’d pick up Theriot too is if we’re flipping DeWitt elsewhere…high doubtful.
DeWitt is an elite defensive 3B, but his bat plays better for 2B. He got screwed around last year while trying to learn 2B in the minors, so he has been forced to learn on the go in the majors… again… this year
I’m really disappointed in the mets… they are basically saying “pack it in guys we have no shot at anything.” which just is not not true. Oswalt makes the phillies good but they still have a major problem with bullpen and two really bad pitchers at #4 and #5. If omar doesn’t go out there and get ted lilly or jeremy guthrie or jake westbrook i will be pretty upset.
problem is that the cards don’t have much in the farm anymore. also you would need a major return from them because in case they offer arbitration to lilly and he declines, your division rival just got two high draft picks.
please—PLEASE, get rid of Theriot. Just can’t take him anymore out there, killing rallies. He’s the epitome of ‘average’, and you just can’t live with average at 2B and SS.
please—PLEASE, get rid of Theriot. Just can’t take him anymore out there, killing rallies. He’s the epitome of ‘average’, and you just can’t live with average at 2B and SS.
The Dodgers need to call it a season and sell. Furcal, Kuroda and Broxton (free agent after 2011) could all bring back very nice returns. Retool for 2012. With this ownership, I think it is safe to assume that no major acquisitions will be made this off-season to keep the team competitive in 2011.
Unfortunately, McCourt will never sell. He will continue to pretend this team has a shot at contending this year, add non-impact players and insist they’re great additions, and when the Dodgers fail to make the postseason we’ll hear how he tried to acquire Oswalt, Lee, etc. but that the Astros and Mariners were asking for too much…
There is still two months left of season yet. We have enough time to catch up. If we were playing in the AL then yes we should sell but since we not that much out of the wild card there no point in thinking the season over. heck we still have a ton of games left against the Padres so we still got time.
Also Manny & Kuroda are free agents after this season so that means we got over 20mil+ to spend.
Assuming Frank McCourt will spend it is setting yourself up for disappointment.
Not necessarily. The Dodgers will be on the hook for $8.3 million to Manny (deferred money) next year and they have several guys eligible for raises/arbitration – Loney, Billingsley, Kuo, Martin…
The Dodgers need to call it a season and sell. Furcal, Kuroda and Broxton (free agent after 2011) could all bring back very nice returns. Retool for 2012. With this ownership, I think it is safe to assume that no major acquisitions will be made this off-season to keep the team competitive in 2011.
Unfortunately, McCourt will never sell. He will continue to pretend this team has a shot at contending this year, add non-impact players and insist they’re great additions, and when the Dodgers fail to make the postseason we’ll hear how he tried to acquire Oswalt, Lee, etc. but that the Astros and Mariners were asking for too much…
God, I hate to let Lilly go. I think he is underrated. If he ends up in LA, he can join another of my favorite players…..Reed. Gotta love their attitudes and work ethic.
If Sands gets traded (which he SHOULDN’T), it will be another idiotic trade for Ned. Personally I’m ready to stick with the team we’ve got and maybe trade off Blake, Manny, possibly Kuroda (though I’d be sad to see him go), and wait for next year.
how can you trade off manny ram hes making 10 mil plus and not a single team wants him to ruin the chemesty hes injured half the time and what could we get for him we are better of offering him arbitration at the end of the year and getting two prospects. as for kuroda we need him hes out 3rd pitcher and if we get ted lilly we will have a solid 5 man rotation when anyone ever says the dodgers need a 5th pitcher they are wrong we need a 3-4 pitcher and push say pidilla back to the 5th spot a good trade for us would to trade casey blake and a couple of prospects over to the cubs for ted lilly we could have jamie play second becuz hes played a great second this yr as back up and hes also hitting 280 plus dewitt could go back to third base and do better.
kershaw
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lilly
kuroda
padilla
solid
weeeeeeeeeeeee neeeeeeeeeeeeeed ttttoooooooooooo scccoooooorrrrrrrreeeeee rruuuunnnnnsssss nooooowwwwwwwwww
“weeeeeeeeeeeee neeeeeeeeeeeeeed ttttoooooooooooo scccoooooorrrrrrrreeeeee rruuuunnnnnsssss nooooowwwwwwwwww ”
Oh, I see how Ted Lilly helps us do that.
If Sands gets traded (which he SHOULDN’T), it will be another idiotic trade for Ned. Personally I’m ready to stick with the team we’ve got and maybe trade off Blake, Manny, possibly Kuroda (though I’d be sad to see him go), and wait for next year.
I don’t get the need for Theriot here.. could this mean something is going to happen with DeWitt? Or maybe he’s getting moved to 3rd to replace Blake’s horrible offense this year? Though I think Blake’s power makes up for his average when it comes to DeWitt’s lack of power this year. And I can’t imagine Theriot of the bench would be much better than Beliard off the bench so its no upgrade there. And if Ely gets included in a trade to the Cubbies that’d be a huge slap in the face (grew up in Chicago, huge Sox fan. Dad wouldn’t even go to his start against the Cubs in Chicago). So does DeWitt get included in this deal? Moved to third? Is Raffi going somewhere? Blake? Pretty confused by this but wouldn’t mind seeing Lilly in a Dodger uni at the right price.
Talks of replacing Casey Blake from anywhere in the organization is ludicrous. Yeah his production is down a little but he’s still clutch and stabilizing at third–gloves been good. Don’t even understand why I am taking the time to have to type this (Summer Friday, phones die down at work) but, crazy man, crazy.
Not saying it’d be a good move just trying to make sense of the Theriot throw in.
Blake could be replaced by Dewitt, who is not much worse with the bat, especially going forward, but is far superior defensively. Russ Mitchell in AAA is likely his equal with the bat going forward not sure about his D but it’s not like Blake has been good this year in that respect. Blake is becoming a bench player as he hits his 37, 38 age seasons.
Not sure what either team gets from the Theriot throw-in. DeWitt is at least as good as Theriot, so confused as to why LA would want him (unless fancy baseball types are seeing something beyond the #s).
Are the Cubs sick of him somehow? Feeling like they get the same production from Fontenot/Baker? Seems unlikely. And unless he’s some sort of Jeckyl/Hyde he is, for all appearances, a great “team” guy.
I like Theriot. Don’t love him. Maybe the Cubs just want him off the books so they can go after a bigger name at 2B?
Dewitt is not as good as Theriot.
Younger, Cheaper, better hair style. – 2 of those are top 2 qualities for Vegas dancers.
the dodgers are out for this year no matter what’s you trade for.
3.5 gb for wild card? 7 gb from weak division while we hold best division record in baseball? 10 games left against the leading Padres? Please…this is an easier come back than 2008 was against the DBACKS.
we talk after 3 games vs. S.F. and 4 games vs. S.D. o.k.?
this is true.
the only way i like a deal like this is if we get a bigger name like ramirez or lee beause our offense needs a little boost right now.
lol we can’t even afford Lilly’s contract, ramirez or lee is def. not happening.
Haha. It needs more than a little boost. It needs a serious kick in its ass.
Maholm: the more I look and see his name, the more I realize LA doesn’t need him, unless the price is more that right, beings he’d fill the 5th slot anyway. Lilly wouldn’t be earth shattering, but would be better than Maholm.
how is lilly a fifth starter if his era is like 3.70 thats a 3-4 guy
dude, era doesn’t determine where a guy belongs in a rotation. our #2 currently has a 4.00 era.
i completly get u but he has shown that he could be a 3-4 guy this yr right?
I know how the conversation between Dodgers and Cubs went…
Ned: Hello, we’ll take Lilly and 4M
Cubs: We’ll take DeWitt + prospects
Ned: What about our 2B?!?
Cubs: We’ll throw in Theriot.
Ned: Well played sir, well played.
framework complete. We’ll know within 24 hours.
haha are you the same guy on the dodger message board? because i saw this on the dodger message board.
yup! lol
haha. calistyle right?
haha. calistyle right?
probably lilly and nady here,nady has no where to play with the cubs with the emergence of colvin,and he makes sense for the dodgers can back up at first and the outfield.
Can’t see Nady at all to LA; They have to shake Garrett Anderson when Manny & Reed Johnson comeback as it is.
Plus the league-wide ban on having more than one Xavier on the same team at the same time, with the controversy surrounding the correct pronunciation throws another wrench into that proposal….
lmao on ban to funny…..i had forgotten about reed,garret hasn’t done to much and my biggest consideration was nady could back up loney….buy if not nady or theriot who might be the position player,may hill not sure
I don’t believe that the tigers aren’t out on lily. It would make no sense for tigers to go after him.
i might be right, a position player thats not theriot. it would be nice if it was aramis ramirez.
totally we need that contract or perhaps dewitt, casey, prospects for lilly rameriez and money!!!?!?!?!
totally we need that contract or perhaps dewitt, casey, prospects for lilly rameriez and money!!!?!?!?!
Uh, OK. So we get TED. Great. Another good arm, another well pitched game…
We may need to shake it up a bit more than that to make up 7 games in the standings. I hope the Dodgers can land some solid offense soon as well to make the good pitching stand up. Will this be the ELY-LILLY trade? Pun intended.
Mystery team = Cardinals or Angels. Bank on it.
No way the Cubs trade anybody to the Cardinals.
No way the Cubs trade anybody to the Cardinals.
Actually. I take that back, Angels are out of it.
cmon just do it….
ELY-LILLY?
HA! My wife works at Eli Lilly!
ELY-LILLY?
Tigerlilly, hmmm…. Built in marketing ploy…
Tigerlilly, hmmm…. Built in marketing ploy…
Hmmm. Now Ted could become a Red? Is the Dodger deal dead? Hey Ned?
Clev-uh!
Clev-uh!
Hmmm. Now Ted could become a Red? Is the Dodger deal dead? Hey Ned?
I will be suprised if the Twins dont make a strong play for lilly now that the chisox and shown they are getting aggressive with the E jackson move which will equate to them picking up dunn and eventually meyers to bolster their rotation. The chisox are looking strong for the stretch!
Ouch. I know how you feel – The same way I do when I have to compliment the Angels.
I will be suprised if the Twins dont make a strong play for lilly now that the chisox and shown they are getting aggressive with the E jackson move which will equate to them picking up dunn and eventually meyers to bolster their rotation. The chisox are looking strong for the stretch!
send dewitt to detroit 4 a fringe prospect or salary relief?
To Detroit for whom?
idk maybe a catcher so then they can non tender martin in the offseason nd have him contend with ellis 4 the job? nd then thers also salary relief
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maybe the dodgers could also chip in sherrill nd ino it may not make sense but with zumaya gone they need another reliever plus shrills been in the AL nd sherills pretty if not really good agenst leftys, so maybe its a fit?
plz tell me is this a good deal
casey blake blake dwitt prospects for aramis rameriz ted lilly and money$$$$$$$
we will have carrol play second he can do fine
we will have carrol play second he can do fine
i no most dodgers fans will hate this trade option/opinion but what if the dodgers traded with the braves sending matt kemp 2 them
Braves Get:Kemp(who recently with andre,martin nd anderson have been killing a bunch of rallys)
Dodgers Get: Melky Cabrera(not an uprade but maybe playing under joe torre can comfort him)
Kenshin Kawakami(ok he’s having an awful yr. but he was great in japan,kills the need 4 a starter, nd if he nd kuroda form a friendship maybe that can help dodgers keep kuroda past this yr.)
OR kris medlen(he can elimenate the need 4 a starter nd/or a reliever)
nd MONEY which we all no dodgers need!
is this a good deal or what?!
why are all you braves obsessed with matt kemp?! you guys can have him, we get hanson of course.
why are all you braves obsessed with matt kemp?! you guys can have him, we get hanson of course.
Hell no
If being good in Japan always translated to being good in the majors, then we would have a lot more Ichiros here in MLB.
im sorry but just the worst deal ever and i was going to give it a chance after you said the thing in the beggining but just terrible idea why trade aay kemp who is a five tool guy or either who had 31 hrs they are both streaky guys who will pick it up dodgers!!!!
i no most dodgers fans will hate this trade option/opinion but what if the dodgers traded with the braves sending matt kemp 2 them
Braves Get:Kemp(who recently with andre,martin nd anderson have been killing a bunch of rallys)
Dodgers Get: Melky Cabrera(not an uprade but maybe playing under joe torre can comfort him)
Kenshin Kawakami(ok he’s having an awful yr. but he was great in japan,kills the need 4 a starter, nd if he nd kuroda form a friendship maybe that can help dodgers keep kuroda past this yr.)
OR kris medlen(he can elimenate the need 4 a starter nd/or a reliever)
nd MONEY which we all no dodgers need!
is this a good deal or what?!
Yankees remain interested? They’ll probably swipe in and steal em at the last second.
Maybe they got Berkman and had the Astros pay a bunch of his salary so that they can flip him over to the Cubs for Lilly? :)~
I hope you’re right!
nah i love loney but how about loney prospects aand dewitt for prince??
and yes i know it will nvr happen
The Cubs better not let a few bucks determine whether or not Lilly/Theriot get shipped out for some young players. Wouldn’t look good in the least for the new ownership to cheap out on this. Theriot is good but it’s time to go. We need a lefty bat at second next yr, the only other regular who hits LH is Colvin.
So the Dodgers, whose owner will go through a messy divorce and likely sell the team in the near future, can afford to get Ted Lilly but the Mets can’t? Great….
Pointless move unless it’s just for stabilizing the rotation in 2011 when Kuroda and Padilla will be gone. This season is rapidly approaching its end for the Dodgers. They should sell.
It is not stabalizing LA’s rotation for 2011. Lilly is a FA at season’s end.
Ah. You’re right. I was thinking Maholm.
Utterly useless move, then.
Frank McCourt must sell the Dodgers. He’s completely in hock and the only thing of value he has is the Dodgers – who’s value he has to split with his soon to be ex. How does he get the most value out of his team – make the playoffs? He will try, even if it means wiping out what is left on the farm and what little cash he does not have. However, the divorce will probably drag on for 6 months and they’ll have to dump payroll next spring. I look forward to it.
well kuroda,ichiro,matsui,kawakami(last yr),park, kuo,saito,etc. hav been good players from asia but anyways the dodgers trading 4 lilly would be a huge waste with him bing an free agent after the season nd with the dodgers likely not makin the playoffs so if anything maholm is a better choice GRANTING the asking price imagine plus the dodgers can maybe get lilly in the offseason which sounds dumb but with 20 million plus cuming off of manny,12 plus million cumin off of kuroda,4.5 million cuming off of sherill,around 5 mill if u non-tender martin. this cud give dodgers quite a big of flexibility. imagine
1. Kershaw
2. Lilly
3.Billingsley
4.Maolm
5.Ely,Mcdonald,Monasterios,screw ovr colleti signs,lindblom
the rotation looks solid, u can sign a catcher 2 replace martin(barajas im hoping),keep podsednik 2 play LF if he does well, nd sign a lefty lik (beimel) 2 replace shriil nd overall the dodgers COULD look tuff 4 next yr.
the pirates will pick up the money owed to Maholm
not all of the money…am i the only 1 dat thinx manny sherril nd anderson killed the season? well,its tru. y is it tru?
1. it seem lik manny goes on the dl or has an ”injury” evry month
2.well manny did sumthing smart here, he exercised his 20 mill when the dodgers cud have gotten pinero with his money.think about it pinero had a solid yr. with the halos in a semi-pitchers park as opposed 2 dodger stadium a pitchers park,he’s pitching in the AL a much better hitters league then the NL,nd finally maybe if he’s with the dodgers he dusnt get injuered!
now to anderson
1 i cant blame him 4 signing with LA,he was trying 2 keep his career alive,an LA so his was getting a win-win,its not lik he’s rusty as opposed 2 typical bench players,BUT u cant blame him 4 that believe it or not its TORRE’S FAULT…..AGAIN!
then theres sherill
i didnt hav a good feelin when he came,when JOE TORRE OVERUSED HIM nd when he came in a fatty 2 camp
nd now the honorable mention RONNIE BELLIARD!
the guys got off 2 a good start the first 2 weeks or so nd the only big hit he got since then is a homer off andy pettite but i think thats been his only hit since
more honorable that probably killed this season. the ortiz’s,martin,torre,colleti,McCHEAP ETC.
If you thought it was hard enough for the Cards to get someone from the Astros, I can’t imagine what it would take for the cubs to trade to them. I think they still have the sour aftertaste of “Brock for Broglio” in their mouths.
Well, I would be angry if Ted Lilly ended up there. The “Best Fans in Baseball” booed him at the All Star Game. At the freakin’ All Star Game! He took it in good nature, with a tight little grin, but I bet he put them on his list of teams he can’t be traded to after that.
Lilly is beloved in Wrigleyville. They would burn the place down if he ended up with the Cardinals for anything less than Albert Pujols. I don’t see a Cub/Cardinal deal here at all.
I’ve been wanting the Reds to get in on Lilly. The Reds rotation is not as deep as people suggest. Volquez is still finding himself. Bailey is up and down as it is, but is recovering from injury. Leake is approaching his innings max. Wood has never pitched more than 167, so his effectiveness will be so-so once he hits 167. Harang is AWOL. It wouldn’t hurt to get more certainty in that rotation.
Oh, and Cubs fans never boo anybody, right? Aaron Miles ring a bell? Please.
Oh, and Cubs fans never boo anybody, right? Aaron Miles ring a bell? Please.
I was at Wrigley the day the fans threw water bottles at the players…hilarious…but overall I love Cub fans more than most other baseball fans..
Good point. Good pitching in the post season is key for success. I would like Lilly in the rotation. First thing is first, WE NEED A CLOSER!!!! A closer has to be a team’s most consistent reliever. Cordero is the opposite.
You don’t need a pitcher but you say you should have traded for one last year?
It was an All Star Game! Ted Lilly was ON their side! It was classless. Yeah, Cubs fans might do the same-and I’d complain about that too.
Cards fans have been mad at Lilly for sliding (hard) into Molina in a game last year. Molina just didn’t know that Lilly isn’t scared of a collision at the plate. He isn’t scared of anything on the field. He gets the most out of his ability of any player this side of Livan Hernandez.