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Blue Jays Acquire Rajai Davis

By Tim Dierkes | November 17, 2010 at 4:24pm CDT

The Blue Jays added to their outfield mix today by acquiring speedster Rajai Davis from the Athletics for minor league relievers Danny Farquhar and Trystan Magnuson.  The Jays also released righty Shawn Hill, according to a press release.

Davis, 30, became more expendable for Oakland after they acquired David DeJesus from the Royals.  Davis slipped to .284/.320/.377 this year in 561 plate appearances for the A's, playing all three outfield positions but mainly center.  It's not clear how the Jays will employ him, but capable center fielders are a rare commodity.  We named him as a trade candidate back on October 25th.  Davis is arbitration eligible for the second time this winter and potentially under team control through 2013.

Farquhar, 24 in February, posted a 3.52 ERA, 9.3 K/9, 4.9 BB/9, and 0.82 HR/9 in 76 2/3 Double-A innings this year.  Baseball America ranked him 14th among Jays prospects heading into the season, noting that he effectively uses multiple arm angles to keep hitters off balance.  The Blue Jays reportedly offered him to the Marlins as part of a deal for Dan Uggla.

Magnuson, a 25-year-old righty, posted a 2.58 ERA, 7.7 K/9, and 1.2 BB/9 with only one home run allowed in 73 1/3 Double-A innings this year.  Heading into the season BA had him 22nd among Jays prospects.

Hill, 30 in April, has undergone Tommy John surgery twice in his career but was solid in 15 pro starts this year.

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports first tweeted the deal was close, while MLBTR added Magnuson's inclusion.

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  1. Moebarguy

    12 years ago

    Just a really good move by AA.

    Reply
    • coachofall

      12 years ago

      i’m hoping this is sarcasm….giving anything of value for a arbitration eligible 4th OF is hardly a good move

      Reply
      • BlueJays45

        12 years ago

        The Jays get the lead-off man they need so badly…plus an avid base stealer. And what are you saying 4th outfielder? We gave up a 25 and 24 year old prospect for him…and Farquhar had a bad season last year, I don’t see him doing very well in the bigs, and Magnuson definitely isn’t closer material. If the Jays are planning on making a playoff run, this rounds their team out well, and they didn’t give much for him either.

        Reply
        • oleosmirf

          12 years ago

          i wouldn’t call him a 4th OF but a .320 OBP for a leadoff hitter is fairly low.

      • mozelpuffski

        12 years ago

        unless you dont have faith in what you gave up or you have a lot more people ahead of them on your depth chart; you fill a need with a quality player. not sure what is wrong with this trade at all. he is only a stop gap measure.

        Reply
      • Moebarguy

        12 years ago

        Rajai Davis is better than a 4th outfielder. He stole 50 bases last year and can play all outfield positions. The Blue Jays needs a leadoff man, and surrendering two mediocre “prospects” for it is a solid trade.

        Reply
    • sherman

      12 years ago

      yea and why would the jays possible need to add to their group of 5 or 6 outfielders fighting for a position.

      Reply
      • Brendon Corbett

        12 years ago

        really? Jose Bautista moves to 3rd now and Davis is the starting right fielder? Lewis is number 4 for sure… if he’s even offered a contract. otherwise Darin Mastroianni fills in as number 4

        Reply
        • mozelpuffski

          12 years ago

          if anything he will be in left field and snider will be at 1st. bautista will stay in right. that is where he wants to be. otherwise davis is the 4th. lewis wont be a jay after this off season. wise is already gone. they are not sold on any one of their more mlb ready o/f.

        • FriedCalamari

          12 years ago

          we just acquired a guy who can steal 35+ SBs when was the last time Jays had someone like that? Shannon Stewart? I don’t think he’ll be our 4th… his SB decent BA hell even above average OBP on our team is far more valuable for us for him to play everyday vs 4th outfielder

        • mozelpuffski

          12 years ago

          he wont surplant wells snider or bautista. and yes i do believe jose will be in rf – that is unless we trade snider then davis will be in left.

        • FriedCalamari

          12 years ago

          you may be right, the offseason has just started. If AA doesn’t acquire a 3B and puts Bautista there and Davis into RF opening day, I wouldn’t be too upset. 2011 is still a building year and I think Davis could have a very positive affect for our offense. Regardless I’m very excited as to what AA plans to do during this off-season.

      • renegade

        12 years ago

        What 5 outfielders fighting for a spot exactly? If Bautista moves to third, there’s a shortage of outfielders (pre-Davis trade). Dewayne Wise and Fred Lewis are not going to be on the team next year. Travis Snider is guaranteed in Lf, Vernon Wells is guaranteed in CF. So where are these 6 OF’s coming from exactly?

        Reply
        • Mark S

          12 years ago

          Uh, why would Vernon Wells stay in CF when Davis is a much better one?

        • renegade

          12 years ago

          Because I don’t think Vernon will be happy about moving. Note: just an opinion.

        • junior ballbag

          12 years ago

          Vernon Wells has the least room to complain than any person on the face of this earth.

        • Mark S

          12 years ago

          Am I the only one who sees nothing wrong with having to change from CF and RF? It’s not like you are getting your playing time diminished or being benched. You are literally just moving over.

        • Sniderlover

          12 years ago

          If Tori Hunter can do it for a rookie… Wells should do it as well. Hunter is a better defender as well and personally, it should help him and take some pressure off him.

        • mozelpuffski

          12 years ago

          because vernon is a better centre fielder. anyone on this site that thinks otherwise needs to watch more games and stop writing about what they do not know.

        • Jon Stark

          12 years ago

          Really? umm…. anybody want to take care of this?

        • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

          12 years ago

          can’t you tell that he’s being sarcastic?
          i mean, he has to be. right?

        • mozelpuffski

          12 years ago

          you dont actually think davis is a better cf then vernon do you? seriously now dude is 30 and cant get a ft role in oakland. wheels are one thing but owning cf is another. vernon has one of the best eyes in the game. watch him snag flyballs dude knows where the ball will land, when it will land, and when he needs to get there to catch it. Vernon only gets so much flak cause ppl are jealous of his contract or they expect more from him cause of what he is paid.

        • Jason_F

          12 years ago

          561 plate appearances sure seems like a full time role to me. Davis is absolutely better than Wells in CF. It so so happens that wheels are very important when considering a CF’s prowess on defense. Wells has gotten progressively worse in the field over the past several years. Not that UZR is the be all, end all of fielding metrics, but they say to have an accurate portrayal of someone’s defense, you need three years of data. The past three years, Wells measures in at -21.8, -18.4, -7 UZR/150. Have you ever even seen Davis play in CF? He’s very good.

        • Jason_F

          12 years ago

          561 plate appearances sure seems like a full time role to me. Davis is absolutely better than Wells in CF. It so so happens that wheels are very important when considering a CF’s prowess on defense. Wells has gotten progressively worse in the field over the past several years. Not that UZR is the be all, end all of fielding metrics, but they say to have an accurate portrayal of someone’s defense, you need three years of data. The past three years, Wells measures in at -21.8, -18.4, -7 UZR/150. Have you ever even seen Davis play in CF? He’s very good.

        • The Secret Inspector

          12 years ago

          I’ll tell you why: $23,000,000.

      • Moebarguy

        12 years ago

        If the Blue Jays actually had such group of outfielders, I’d agree. Given their actual situation, I don’t agree.

        Reply
    • HipNip2009

      12 years ago

      The offensively challenged Giants found Davis lacking. That should be a hint.

      Reply
      • Moebarguy

        12 years ago

        They must have thought Joe Nathan was worthless too–just because they traded him.

        Nice logic (<<<—–sarcasm)

        Reply
      • Terry L

        12 years ago

        You realize that was about 2 season ago? In 2007-08, he played in 69 games for the Giants.

        In 369 games with the A’s since 2008, Davis had 116 steals. That should be a hint as to why Toronto wants him

        Reply
  2. not_brooks

    12 years ago

    Two guys who could potentially step into bullpen roles by the end of 2011 for a fourth outfielder.

    Nice.

    Reply
    • TJ Green

      12 years ago

      mediocre bullpen arms are a dime a dozen… Finding an athletic center fielder who can steal bases is not… Another solid move, very similar to the Wallace for Gose trade where a much harder to find type of talent is acquired for quality, but replaceable talent that is easy to come by.

      Reply
      • renegade

        12 years ago

        Only problem being that Davis is 30 years old and Gose is like 21 but I get your point.

        Reply
      • coachofall

        12 years ago

        He’s not a centerfielder! he’s a fast 30 year old baseball player. Not a starter on a good team, and about to get more expensive than he is worth through arbitration. There is no way the Jays intend on making him their full time starter let alone in CF

        Reply
        • renegade

          12 years ago

          He can play CF. He posted a 8 UZR in 2009 (although -8 in 2010). Lol.

        • baseballz

          12 years ago

          I agree ! And why not wait until after the deadline to offer arbitration ? Davis was a lock to be non tendered and then we could have picked him up for nothing. Its not like the A’s don’t have 8 outfielders of their own to find spots for(yes i know im exagerating). Still, just because the Marlins didn’t want these guys doesn’t mean they were useless.

        • Moebarguy

          12 years ago

          If Davis had been non-tendered, there’s a good chance many teams would have tried to sign him. Giving up two minor league relievers to avoid competition is a solid risk for a team to take.

        • alxn

          12 years ago

          not really for a player of this caliber

        • Moebarguy

          12 years ago

          Teams wouldn’t be interested in a plus defender with 50 SB on his resume?

        • alxn

          12 years ago

          I’m probably overvaluing the prospects the Jays gave up. Davis is definitely a decent player but not a starter on most teams. He’s expensive for a 4th OF too.

      • not_brooks

        12 years ago

        Agreed on the “replaceability” of bullpen arms, but there’s no way Davis is going to play center with Wells’ contract out there.

        And we all saw first hand that Davis isn’t a capable starter when he put up a .320 OBP when given a starting role last year.

        In the end, this is a very even trade. Magnuson and Farquhar are both interesting bullpen pieces, but they’re both still minor leaguers and Davis is a solid athlete, but he’s still a fourth outfielder.

        Reply
        • TJ Green

          12 years ago

          yeah but his .280 avg is better than anyone else on the team (now that buck is gone) all he needs to do is improve his walks, which with good coaching can help. And yes, of course he won’t be playing center.. In AA we trust, has he made a bad move yet?? Obviously he has something up his sleeve to make these relievers replaceable

        • Jason

          12 years ago

          You don’t think the coaching staff in Oakland tried to help him with pitch recognition and laying off pitches?

        • not_brooks

          12 years ago

          86 walks in 1455 big league plate appearances = 6% walk rate

          246 walks in 2732 minor league plate appearances = 9% walk rate

          I’d love to meet the hitting coach who can fix that. Maybe that coach can take a look at Corey Patterson as well. If Raj was 23, I’d be on board with you, but at 30, he is what he is.

        • mozelpuffski

          12 years ago

          he wont walk more but his hr slg and ops are going to go up. skydome is a more friendly confines to hit in… he is a better dwayne wise. he will spell our o/f throughout the season and pinch run.

        • Andy Mc

          12 years ago

          +1

        • TJ Green

          12 years ago

          i didnt mean he was replacing him, simply he is of CF quality, which is not nearly as easy to come by as a reliever

  3. pastlives

    12 years ago

    hmm a couple interesting bullpen pieces going to Oakland, now I’m REALLY curious to how the Jays plan on (re)building a bullpen this year.

    Reply
  4. pastlives

    12 years ago

    Also, this seems like a pretty balanced trade, I have no clue who’s going to win out on this.

    Reply
  5. Brendon Corbett

    12 years ago

    Jays badly needed some one to lead off, and had some spare bullpen arms… seems like the trade made sense for both sides

    Reply
    • not_brooks

      12 years ago

      Good luck with Rajai leading off. He’s got speed to burn, but he can’t take a pitch to save his life.

      Reply
      • renegade

        12 years ago

        He posted a .360 OBP in 2009, 2007 which is pretty good by Jays standards.

        Reply
      • ukJaysfan

        12 years ago

        He doesn’t need to. Dwayne Murphy will have him swinging from the heels and he’ll hit 35 home runs in 2011…..

        Reply
    • kimofromkauai

      12 years ago

      Assuming that Davis will make about $3M in arbitration and was a non tender candidate in Oakland after Crisp was resigned and DeJesus was acquired I think that Toronto way overpaid for for Rajai. He is not a good leadoff man or center fielder.

      Reply
  6. Ian_Smell

    12 years ago

    They should call themselves the Blue Jais.

    Reply
    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

      12 years ago

      or we could call him Rajay Davis

      Reply
    • Kb

      12 years ago

      lol good one

      Reply
  7. renegade

    12 years ago

    First trade that AA hasn’t won.

    Reply
    • pastlives

      12 years ago

      haha give it time man, let’s let either of the 2 RPs actually do something in the majors first

      Reply
    • TJ Green

      12 years ago

      by whose standards?

      Reply
    • Sniderlover

      12 years ago

      It’s just 2 ok relievers that aren’t really worth much. Davis isn’t worth much either but at least he gives this team something: speed which has been lacking for years. I don’t think he’ll leadoff unless he somehow manages to get around .350 OBP but he is still a decent player who will fit in nicely.

      It’s not a mind blowing trading but a good trade for both sides.

      Reply
    • moonraker45

      12 years ago

      he didn’t lose either

      Reply
    • FriedCalamari

      12 years ago

      you serious? why is so many people QQing over 2 minor league relievers? When AA just acquired somebody who can potentially have a significant impact on the dynamic of our offense next year? an OF who can steal 30+ for two relievers who haven’t touched the majors..? I’d make that trade anyday. His BA and OBP are above average for Jays standards too

      Reply
  8. j96

    12 years ago

    good move AA is going to have to build bullpen now i bet he pulls off a few trades and sign a big free agent

    Reply
    • PJaysW

      12 years ago

      i don’t understand this sentiment. please tell me which of Farquar or Magnusen was definitely going to be in the Jays bullpen next year?

      Reply
      • mozelpuffski

        12 years ago

        neither

        Reply
      • johnsmith4

        12 years ago

        25 year old AA relievers are not good candidates for the bullpen. Maybe he picks up some 22 year old AA pitchers through Rule 5 drafs.

        Shame JP never held onto Randy Wells

        Reply
  9. Jon Walsh

    12 years ago

    … Not sure why Hill was released. Is Alex planning a big run on the Rule 5 draft or something?

    Though I’ve always been a little irrational in my liking of Shawn Hill, since he’s from my hometown.

    Reply
    • Craig D

      12 years ago

      I was a bit confused about the Hill thing as well.

      Reply
      • Dan Gorgone

        12 years ago

        +1 on Shawn Hill. Just the type of reclamation project I can see Theo Epstein taking a look at.

        Reply
        • PJaysW

          12 years ago

          lol nothing like an absolutely ridiculous way to hype theo.

    • PJaysW

      12 years ago

      is that mississauga or georgetown? they always seem to tout him as being from one of those two places. I’m pretty sure he went to E.C. Drury or Bishop whatever in Milton, so that complicates it further. I grew up in the ‘saug, but now i’m in georgetown.

      Reply
    • moonraker45

      12 years ago

      he’s not a BAD pitcher by any stretch of the imagination, he could easily be a middle of the rotation starter if he can stay healthy, I dont get the release either.. Unless ofcourse he asked for it so he can go find a job as a starter somewhere.

      Reply
      • Sniderlover

        12 years ago

        I’d assume that’s what he did and I think AA was nice enough to grant him that. He would likely be a reliever here which wouldn’t be a bad thing considering his arm.

        Reply
  10. Craig D

    12 years ago

    AA has something up his sleeve. He always does.

    Reply
    • Jason

      12 years ago

      Arms. And we all do.

      Well most of us anyways (sorry to any one or no armers out there)

      Reply
      • smokinjays

        12 years ago

        No worries, most no-armers can’t type.

        Reply
      • Andy Mc

        12 years ago

        AA definitely has a few quality arms up his sleeve(s).

        Reply
  11. braincapers

    12 years ago

    The Jays have potentially 10 SP ready for the show. So five need to play somewhere.

    Reply
    • moonraker45

      12 years ago

      more like 7, 10 is a little much

      Reply
      • Andy Mc

        12 years ago

        Morrow/Romero/Marcum/Cecil/Drabek /RZep/Stewart/Mills/Richmond/Litsch/Ray

        Reply
  12. 14 Rocks

    12 years ago

    Looks like a great deal for the Jays. A lead-off hitting, base stealing CF for nothing but a couple of minor league relief pitchers.

    Reply
    • not_brooks

      12 years ago

      To another uninformed Jays fan, good luck with Rajai leading off. Just because a guy has speed doesn’t mean he’s a leadoff hitter.

      Reply
      • renegade

        12 years ago

        He posted a .360 OBP in 2009, 2007 which is pretty good by Jays standards.

        Reply
        • not_brooks

          12 years ago

          I’ll give you 2009, but he had only 190 at bats in 2007.

        • eviola1

          12 years ago

          Whatever, he was basically free.

        • alxn

          12 years ago

          you still have to pay him, which is probably why the A’s got rid of him. they probably wouldn’t have tendered him a contract anyways

        • johnsmith4

          12 years ago

          He posted .320 OBP in 2010 which is also pretty good by Jays standards for a right-handed batter.

  13. TheodoreRoosevelt

    12 years ago

    The jury is out on this one. Rajai looks to be a bit too inconsistent and there’s no way of telling how the prospects will turn out; could swing either way. Certainly not a slam-dunk win for either GM at this point.

    Reply
  14. Mack Williams

    12 years ago

    This trade to me says the Jays will move Bautista to 3rd and Lewis/Davis split time in RF.

    Reply
    • renegade

      12 years ago

      There is absolutely NO WAY that Fred Lewis will play half the games in RF for the Blue Jays next year.

      Reply
      • Brendon Corbett

        12 years ago

        Lewis’s defense is just horrible, and he’s not that fast. Rajai is a way better defender and base stealer

        Reply
      • Mack Williams

        12 years ago

        Well I think Davis is more of an everyday player than Lewis. Davis starts 130 games or so? I’m just saying that we all know Wells is stamped in CF. Snider in LF. There could be some games where Bautista plays right while McDonald plays 3rd. Or, AA isn’t done making moves.

        Reply
        • renegade

          12 years ago

          AA isn’t done making moves and I’m positive that he won’t bring back Lewis. Lewis is just bad.

        • Mack Williams

          12 years ago

          I’m not disagreeing with you. I would like to get an everyday 3rd baseman and keep Jose in the outfield. But that’s just me.

        • baseballz

          12 years ago

          What I’m worried about with all these guys the jays are dfaing is why hasn’t Lewis been released yet ??? I would have sworn Hill would have been much more valuable then Lewis is, but it looks like AA knows something.

  15. Dev0

    12 years ago

    I think AA won this deal, he got a MLB player for 2 guys who likely won’t make it or might be one of those injury callup types. The jays have lots of Pitchers who can go to the pen because they won’t win starting jobs.

    Reply
    • johnsmith4

      12 years ago

      Let’s see how Farqs and Maggs does in the PCL.

      Reply
  16. Kid Canada

    12 years ago

    I’m OK with this as a Jays fan. It’s November. Let’s see how the rest of the pieces of the puzzle shake out. If they’re counting on Davis to be their every day leadoff hitter and starting left fielder, I’ll be a bit concerned, but who knows what the plan is as of today. Davis is an OK piece.

    Reply
  17. blackandorangepride

    12 years ago

    the A’s are taking a huge risk with their team they’re gonna have the most fragile outfield next year,they seriously need to find durable players.

    Reply
    • Jon Stark

      12 years ago

      wait? Who are the fragile outfielders?

      Reply
      • Terry L

        12 years ago

        Coco Crisp, Conor Jackson, Ryan Sweeney. And with the A’s history of injuries, I wouldn’t be surprised if David DeJesus went on the DL this upcoming season.

        Reply
        • blackandorangepride

          12 years ago

          I wouldn’t be surprised either if they non-tendered Jackson it would be a mistake they need depth in the OF.The loss of Rajai doesn’t make sense to me because he was one of the few durable players the A’s had and if they get injured early Michael Taylor would have to be rushed.

    • alxn

      12 years ago

      They have Michael Taylor waiting in AAA

      Reply
      • blackandorangepride

        12 years ago

        I know but the A’s outfield is so fragile Sweeney had a season-ending injury, Crisp played only 75 games spent half the season on the DL, if DeJesus gets injured too Taylor may be rushed to the majors. I wanna see him take his time and be ready when he comes up.

        Reply
        • alxn

          12 years ago

          I definitely see your point but a team doesn’t have enough roster space to keep 5 or 6 OFers around just because some of them are injury prone. It is unlikely that ALL of them get injured anyways.

  18. AsFanDFW

    12 years ago

    I’m trying to wrap my head around all of the A’s moves so far: Give up Rajai and Mazarro and get back two Minor League Relievers and David DeJesus.
    Davis and DeJesus are a wash (especially when you consider that DD will cost 3-4M more this year) and that leaves us with Mazzaro for to MiLB RP’s. I haven’t disliked any of the A’s moves so far this year, but they don’t seam to be in our favor when you put them all together.

    Reply
    • Mark S

      12 years ago

      Don’t forget Edwin Encarnacion! (Despite the fact that you might want to)

      Reply
    • jpkinney7

      12 years ago

      DeJesus =/= Rajai Davis… not even close.

      Reply
  19. myname_989

    12 years ago

    The A’s are going to have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball for several years to come.

    Reply
    • renegade

      12 years ago

      Both these guys are relievers.

      Reply
      • evan

        12 years ago

        …And what do you think a reliever does?

        Reply
        • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

          12 years ago

          relieve?

        • johnsmith4

          12 years ago

          himself?

      • junior ballbag

        12 years ago

        Might’ve made sense had he said ‘starting.’

        Reply
  20. BeenThereDoneIt

    12 years ago

    These were guys that AA was looking to move (offered one of them in the Uggla trade). Davis is a good option for left feild and Snider is going to move to right. Bautista becomes an everyday 3rd baseman. Now all the jays need is a first basement and a couple of good bullpen arms and they are set for 2011.

    Reply
    • junior ballbag

      12 years ago

      The Blue Jays need to catch up. The Rangers are already working on their 4th basement.

      Reply
      • moonraker45

        12 years ago

        i’ll never forget my first basement, it had a futon

        Reply
    • johnsmith4

      12 years ago

      plus a left fielder.

      Reply
  21. Backup_Slider

    12 years ago

    This is more like the Maybin for Webb+Mujica deal. However, in this case, Davis has proven that he can hit big league pitching (though not tremendously) and the two relievers sent Oakland’s way haven’t retired a hitter north of AA ball (no, that doesn’t mean Alex Anthopolous ball). So on a relative scale the Jays made off far better than the Padres did.

    Reply
  22. samrob08

    12 years ago

    4th OF – PR for Manny?

    HAHA

    Reply
    • Andy Mc

      12 years ago

      yes x2

      Reply
    • johnsmith4

      12 years ago

      Who fields LF better – Lind or Manny?

      Reply
      • FriedCalamari

        12 years ago

        Snider

        Reply
  23. sheldonman14

    12 years ago

    Fine move. Other than Shawn Hill release. Maybe AA saw something we didn’t.

    Reply
  24. Alex Grady

    12 years ago

    Hill’s probably going for another tommy john.

    Reply
    • moonraker45

      12 years ago

      he does them himself now, he has a home kit

      Reply
  25. Chris Solberg

    12 years ago

    Bullpen arms are easily replaceable…. – Josh Byrnes

    Reply
  26. 2UGGLA2BINTO

    12 years ago

    …on second thought I would rather have uggla…soon to be overpaid fourth outfielder…strikes out all the time…and has no power…first bad move by AA

    Reply
  27. Steveospeak

    12 years ago

    I don’t think the Jays got hosed by any means but I like this deal from the A’s perspective. Farquhar and Magnuson are more valuable than Mazzaro and Marks whom they gave up for DeJesus. Sure Davis would have been around more years, but DeJesus is obviously better. I think the A’s win both moves (though more so the DeJesus trade), and look really good in the grand scheme of things.

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  28. O971

    12 years ago

    Meet the Jays next 50 HR man.

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  29. Matt Crichley

    12 years ago

    Rajai will run wild on whomever Boston & NYY have behind the plate.

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  30. moonraker45

    12 years ago

    Hard to be upset about this deal either way, both relievers are ready for the majors, AA’s willingness to give them up suggests he may be in the midst of signing a few free agent relievers.

    That being said I don’t see Davis starting, I see him as a late inning pitch runner. Maybe start 1 or 2 games a week and have Wells DH and what not. . He basically replaces what Wise did last year.

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    • Andy Mc

      12 years ago

      Magnuson was Rule 5 eligible, and both pitchers were repeating double A at 24-25 yrs old. Davis is a great 4th OF, which is what he’ll be in Toronto.

      Reply
      • Jayson Miller

        12 years ago

        Magnuson was a 5th yr senior sign and jays unsuccesfully tried to convert him to SP. He went back to SP the last 2 seasons and dominated. The other reliever is 23.

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        • SneakyLongBalls

          12 years ago

          Magnuson has NOT started since 08 when he went 0-9 with 5.40 ERA. He has dominated, but as a relief pitcher.

  31. moonraker45

    12 years ago

    Also I don’t see Wells moving over.. I mean if we aquired Rasmus, then your talking, but i doubt very much he moves over for Davis..

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    • PJaysW

      12 years ago

      i like the idea of Rasmus, but I still have to think someone is asking Wells to take to RF if they’re intent on giving Davis the opportunity to bat leadoff every day.

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      • moonraker45

        12 years ago

        perhaps if Davis is given the opportunity to play every day, then maybe.. but he might have to earn that right. .. guess i’ll wait to see the roster filled out

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  32. RobbyG77

    12 years ago

    Not sure how anyone can disagree with this deal from a Jays perspective? AA gives up two RP that have never pitched above AA, and are both in their mid 20’s. The Jays need some more team speed as mentioned by their new manager, and wanted to do different things besides hit HR this year. This gives them a speedy STARTING outfielder who could leadoff, what other option do the Jays have? Last year Snider was their leadoff hitter at times…. Davis is definitely an upgrade, and will be a starting OF, Guaranteed.

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  33. phillipmike

    12 years ago

    Very good move by AA. We finally have some one who can steal…

    My guess is he struck out on plan A and went to plan B.

    Plan A: Acquire Uggla for 2B, Move Hill to 3B and Leave Bautista in RF
    Plan B: Acquire a RF, Leave Hill at 2B and mmove Bautista to 3B

    At least thats what i got, but AA is alway a tricky guy. He said he would only move Bautista or Hill to 3B if he acquired an impact player at one of their positions to justify a position change. Is Davis an impact player? Maybe Hill or one of the OFs are on their way out.

    If not i really like the addition of Davis… He has speed and thats what the Jays need, 30 – 50 SB will be huge for us… Either way i am not getting too excited, i sitll expect the Jays to finish no higher than 4th. But at least i can watch a good game or two down at the Rogers Centre.

    RF: Davis
    2B: Hill
    CF: Wells
    3B: Bautista
    1B: Lind
    DH: Manny?
    LF: Snider
    SS: Escabor
    C: Arencibia

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    • grownice

      12 years ago

      hill 2nd??? no no no, escobar 2nd… have u seen his bunting skills? and manny for dh is a joke lol

      Reply
    • patrice brisebois

      12 years ago

      when will Jays fans finally understand that Aaron Hill is NOT a number 2 hitter?

      Reply
  34. Mike

    12 years ago

    I’m THRILLED to have Davis out of the AL West. He KILLED Texas the last few seasons. I’m surprised Oakland traded him away. They say they wanna upgrade their offense, then trade away 50-60 stolen bases. Makes no sense.

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  35. alxn

    12 years ago

    The most significant part of this deal is the money that Davis is going to make. You can’t just look at it at face value and say the Jays got the better deal. The A’s would have probably non-tendered him. Davis will be a great 4th outfielder, but also a very expensive one at around $3M.

    I’m not saying this trade favored one team or another. I see it as basically even. Just trying to explain why this isn’t the Jays getting a player for peanuts.

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  36. The Nicker

    12 years ago

    Y’know there is a middle ground between “lead-off hitter” and “4th outfielder” everyone.

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    • deere5800

      12 years ago

      Yeah, like a far better guy to stick in the nine hole than Snider…I like the trade, at worst he’s a great fourth outfielder and at best a decent lead-off hitter. With all the money coming off the books the Jays can’t be worried about paying $3 million or whatever for a bench player.

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      • grownice

        12 years ago

        280 avg and 50 stolen bases is hard to do from the bench… lewis seems better fit for 4th outfielder. let davis run crazy on the base paths who cares if his obp is 330 for his career, if h’se still stealing 40-50 then hes obviously making the most of his chances while still hitting for a solid avg. and not to mention with escobar hitting u could get pretty creative with hit and runs etc.

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  37. patrice brisebois

    12 years ago

    Still on the fence about this deal. Davis is arb eligible, 30 years old, and way too similar to fred lewis for me. Sure Fred’s garbage on defense and can’t really steal, Davis does both those things but look at their offensive numbers. Lewis is a better hitter. Period. So while Lewis cost the Jays $75k, Davis costs the Jays two specs in a bullpen that is looking really raw next year anyway, plus Davis’ contract. I get what Davis brings to the table, the defense, the speed, the potential to lead off etc. Look at his splits though, sub .700 ops against RHP? 3 full seasons in the majors at 30 years old? Only one of those seasons was actually good? It’s a questionable move for me and I’d love AA to prove me wrong by finding Davis steady playing time so he can get those 50 steals. However, if he flops, this move, as well as missing out on Dan Uggla will be a couple nasty stains on an otherwise impressive young career by a GM I like alot.

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  38. The_Silver_Stacker

    12 years ago

    Its moves like these that the casual fan shrugs off, but are the ones that reward a team more than acquiring a big name player

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