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Red Sox Open To Offers For Matsuzaka, Others?

By Luke Adams 2 | March 12, 2011 at 7:51pm CDT

7:51pm: One Red Sox official has called the ESPNBoston story "false," tweets Edes. According to Edes, however, his source was describing scenarios he'd been told by another Sox official. GM Theo Epstein also disputed the report, writes John Tomase of the Boston Herald.

5:49pm: The Red Sox moved a little closer to finalizing their Opening Day roster today by reassigning a number of players to minor league camp. Before April 1st rolls around, however, the club appears open to making more significant roster moves. Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston reports that the Red Sox "have let it be known" they'll listen to trade offers on a number of players expected to start the year with the team.

According to Edes' source, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Tim Wakefield, Mike Cameron, Darnell McDonald, and Marco Scutaro would be available in the right deal. Some of those players would likely draw more interest than others. Matsuzaka, for instance, in addition to having a full no-trade clause, is owed $10MM this season and has struggled so far this spring. So while Edes writes that the Red Sox would move the right-hander if they could "add to their young catching inventory," finding a deal that works could be tricky.

Cameron and Scutaro have been identified as potential trade candidates previously this winter, given Boston's depth at their respective positions. As for Wakefield, Edes' source says the 44-year-old is "on the bubble" and could be available for a left-handed reliever. Though his 2011 role with the Sox is up in the air, the knuckleballer said earlier this week that he can't imagine playing anywhere besides Boston.

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  1. piro18

    14 years ago

    Ill take Scutaro on the Phillies. Could make up for the lose of Chase Utley a bit. Plus he is in the final year of his contract I believe.

    Reply
    • Ryan

      14 years ago

      According to b-r.com, Suctaro was worth 2.2 WAR for the Sox last year at $5M, or $2.25M per win. Wilson Valdez was worth 1.7 WAR at a salary of $381K, or $225K per win despite only playing half of the season. Therefore, Valdez on a WAR basis is at least 10x’s more of a value at his price than Scutaro is at his.

      In layman’s terms, no thanks.

      Reply
    • Ryan

      14 years ago

      Ok, since my previous comment apparently had to be approved by a moderator first, I’ll summarize.

      I would much rather take Wilson Valdez’s 1.7 WAR at $400K over Scutaro’s 2.2 WAR at $5M. By WAR metrics Valdez is 10x’s the value on a $ per WAR basis.

      Reply
      • notsureifsrs

        14 years ago

        lol

        Reply
        • Ryan

          14 years ago

          lolzzzzzzz!!!

          Reply
      • xfipMachine

        14 years ago

        You go ahead and take Valdez’s career .240/.289/.326. Smart.

        Reply
        • Ryan

          14 years ago

          On which planet is the difference between Wilson Valdez and Marco Scutaro’s worth $5.5M?

          I get it, you don’t like the WAR/$ analysis. But you better do better than quoting Valdez slash line before I think about adding $6M for a guy who hasn’t played a meaningful 2B since 2004.

          Reply
      • Kyle Haker

        14 years ago

        its not about that when you are trying to win. It’s just who is better. If the want to win why wouldnt they take a better player?

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        • notsureifsrs

          14 years ago

          crazy talk!

          Reply
        • Ryan

          14 years ago

          That’s fine, I agree that Scutaro is the better player. Now as soon as the Sox are wiling to eat about $5M of the $6M Scutaro is owed in 2011, I’m sure Amaro will be more than happy to put together a mutually beneficial deal.

          Otherwise, I’ll stick with Valdez.

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          • RedSoxDynasty

            14 years ago

            Yup and good luck finding a taker for Blanton cuz by you’re logic the Phils are gonna have to eat about 14 of the 16 remaining on his contract too cuz he sux!

            Reply
  2. mrjjbond

    14 years ago

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say Wake won’t be dealt. He says he can’t imagine playing anywhere else and he has 10-5 rights.

    Reply
    • wickedkevin

      14 years ago

      You beat me to the 10-5 rights. I doubt he approves to leave.

      Reply
      • User 4245925809

        14 years ago

        Not to mention I’d rather have him as the #5 over Matsuzaka anyway. No other reason? In the AL Wake can throw a masterpiece every 3 games or so and give just as many innings as Matsuzaka can every time out.

        Matsuzaka needs to be in the NL anyway..He moves over there and his game improves vastly.. A Blanton type x2 stuff wise.

        Reply
        • qbass187

          14 years ago

          Wake was baaaaaddd all last season and is looking bad this spring.
          I’ll take Dice-K over Wake, right now, any day of the week .

          Reply
          • dwarfcatt

            14 years ago

            Wake can join Bronson Arroyo in the “Living proof you never take a hometown discount with the Red Sox” camp

            Reply
            • notsureifsrs

              14 years ago

              yea he’s really pissed at them over how he’s been treated his entire career. hates the red sox so much

              Reply
            • wickedkevin

              14 years ago

              Meh, I’d take off Wakefield and replace him with Lowell. How is it a hometown discount at age 44?

              Reply
              • dwarfcatt

                14 years ago

                on reflection, i regret that comment – when you are 44 you are pretty lucky to get what you get

                Reply
  3. Holidayjesus

    14 years ago

    Theo, I will trade you this awesome candy bar for Dice K. But you have to pay off his contract of course.

    Reply
    • Logan Abrego

      14 years ago

      I don’t think they will accept that.

      Reply
    • Pete 12

      14 years ago

      What are you going to have him do? Mow your lawn?

      Reply
      • Holidayjesus

        14 years ago

        Mow my lawn and have him pitch to the local beer league.

        Reply
      • Fangaffes

        14 years ago

        On days that Papelbon can’t close, Dice-K can start warming up in the 4th inning so he can be the one to walk the park full in the 9th.

        Reply
  4. jnolan33177

    14 years ago

    Utley isnt out or lost yet, they announced he has gotten a lil better today.

    Reply
    • Anthony

      14 years ago

      And Amaro said this regarding that baby step…..

      “”I don’t know if it’s good news or not good news”

      Reply
    • Tko11

      14 years ago

      It doesnt matter how he feels today, the condition he has is tricky. One day you feel great and then the next day it can hurt more than ever before and vice versa…or at least this is how it was explained on the radio for the past week.

      Reply
  5. Guest 7046

    14 years ago

    One of nats catchers for Dice-K? ill take that, as long as the sox pay close to half the salary

    Reply
    • Matt R.

      14 years ago

      I bet he’d do better in the NL (maybe). Can’t figure this guy out. Which catcher do they give up? From what I’ve heard Flores is the most likely to be dealt and he doesn’t match up as well with what the Sox would want if they’re after more of a “prospect.”

      Reply
  6. RedSoxDynasty

    14 years ago

    Why are Wake and McDonald even mentioned here? Wake will retire if he doesn’t make the team and McDonald won’t fetch equal value to what he brings to the sox and he’s cheap!

    Reply
  7. Encarnacion's Parrot

    14 years ago

    I’ve heard a rumor that the Angels like to take on big contracts..

    Reply
  8. hrbomber1113

    14 years ago

    Gee, YA THINK??? A 35 year old SS who’s had one really good year and had a wOBA of .319 last year. A 38 year old OF coming off a ton of injuries with a fairly large contract for this year. It’s tough to tell if age, the move to the AL East, or injuries was the main culprit but I’m guessing it was a mix of all three. A 44 year old injury plagued pitcher who might even retire if he was traded and is probably a swingman at best at this point in his career. And last but not least an injury plauged SP with over $20MM left on his deal with control issues. I bet the Yankees would trade AJ Burnett and the Giants would trade Barry Zito too. How is this news? They didn’t come out and say they’d trade Lester or Pedroia or something. Some of their worst contracts and players without defined jobs or players being pushed out by younger better players are available in the right trade…kinda just like every other MLB team.

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    • wickedkevin

      14 years ago

      How insightful of you.

      Reply
      • hrbomber1113

        14 years ago

        How completely unfunny of you.

        Reply
        • jordan c.

          14 years ago

          yankee fan? figures

          Reply
          • hrbomber1113

            14 years ago

            um no? guess you’re not so hot at being insightful yourself. it wasn’t a bash on the red sox. Every team has players they’d like to deal…that was the entire point of what I said. you’re pretty sensitive. Red Sox fan? figures. See? I can make random guesses and say vague unfunny things too.

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            • wickedkevin

              14 years ago

              Series of events: Red Sox Front office says some players are available, openly.
              Edes reports it.
              MLBTR then forwards report for all to read (as they do with every other story, no matter how redundant).
              You come on and point out its redundancy (which in itself is redundant).

              Your comment is as useful to everyone else as the original post was to you.

              Reply
              • Ryan

                14 years ago

                Nice summary.

                Your avatar is still gay.

                Reply
                • wickedkevin

                  14 years ago

                  Yeah, I made it when I was 15 and Yahoo won’t let me change it.

                  Reply
        • wickedkevin

          14 years ago

          To each his own my friend….to each his own.

          Reply
    • qbass187

      14 years ago

      You had a point until Dice-K. “Injury plauged”? Not quite. He’s only had one real injury and that was a pulled groin muscle.
      I’d go as far as to call Beckett “injury plauged” but not Dice-K.

      Reply
  9. john12121212

    14 years ago

    Bosox are throwing out the trash lol, none of these guys are worth much!

    Reply
    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

      14 years ago

      well that makes no sense at all! Why would anyone try to get rid of trash? We should keep them!

      Reply
    • Guest 7040

      14 years ago

      Dice-K is worth a #2 spot in any NL rotation except the Phillies. Yeah, he’s not worth much.

      Reply
  10. BentoBox

    14 years ago

    Matsuzaka’s starts are always painfully long and his walk rate drives me insane but he’s a decent fifth starter.

    Reply
    • HerbertAnchovy

      14 years ago

      The only problem with that is Daisuke isn’t paid like a 5th starter.

      Reply
      • notsureifsrs

        14 years ago

        he’s got way more upside than a fifth starter, particularly in the NL. and to any team but boston, he’s not all that expensive. it’s the sunk cost that was the posting fee that really chaps their asses

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      • BentoBox

        14 years ago

        Dice-K is being paid $10 M this year and next year. That’s not that unreasonable. People think he’s expensive because of the posting fee.

        Although his perks are quite jaw dropping. Wow.

        Reply
    • qbass187

      14 years ago

      It’s true. He gets alot of heat but he’s really not a bad pitcher, especially for the 5 spot.
      Painful to watch, yes. But he gets the job done…eventually.

      Reply
  11. Paul Glenn Pressler

    14 years ago

    They mind as well hang a “free trash” sign around that crap. Just because they play in Boston doesn’t mean they have value. Crappy mcCrap crap

    Reply
  12. Ferrariman

    14 years ago

    if they really want a good catching prospect, Cardinals Bryan Anderson (former top 100 prospect, still very young, good minor league numbers minus injury filled 2009) could probably be had with Molina at the mlb level in front of him and Tony Cruz having an excellent AFL, ST, and 2010 season possibly tugging from behind. Not sure i would want Matsuzaka at that price, or even half that price though.

    Reply
    • notsureifsrs

      14 years ago

      he’s very obviously worth it at half the price, don’t be weird

      Reply
      • Nevertheless

        14 years ago

        Been wondering for a while…

        Reply
  13. John Anthony

    14 years ago

    I think the Nationals are the best fit for Dice-K… only problem is getting him to approve the deal.

    Reply
  14. Guest 7045

    14 years ago

    Scutaro to the Cubs. He can play 2b since they stink, stink, stink, at that position and we give them Silva and cash.

    Reply
    • Ferrariman

      14 years ago

      yes, i’m sure the red sox are lining up to trade their trash at a position of need for trash with no purpose.

      Reply
      • Guest 7043

        14 years ago

        Well, you know what they say…garbage in, garbage out!

        Reply
  15. Guest 7044

    14 years ago

    Dice-K to the Cardinals.

    Reply
  16. josepht555

    14 years ago

    Wow. This guy cost 100 million dollars and the genius GM is putting him out on the sidewalk. Wow.

    Reply
  17. YankeePhan1234

    14 years ago

    All I see is “Oh man we spent too much money on 2 guys, we gotta ditch anyone that isn’t that good that we overpaid in the past”.

    Reply
  18. woadude

    14 years ago

    Dice K would approve a trade to Seattle to play with Ichiro, the Red Sox can’t expect much in return if the Mariners take on his salary, but I am sure Jack Z and Theo can work something out, Matzuzaka to Seattle makes too much sense.

    Reply
  19. EarlyMorningBoxscore

    14 years ago

    Dice gets traded….Felix Doubront the new number 5 starter?

    Reply
    • notsureifsrs

      14 years ago

      wakefield, aceves, and maybe even andrew miller get a shot before doubront

      Reply
  20. frank_costanza

    14 years ago

    Where theres smoke theres fire. Sounds like one member of the Red Sox brass screwed the pooch and now the Red Sox are losing leverage

    Reply
  21. Lunchbox45

    14 years ago

    As a Jay fan I’d take Scutaro back, he did well for us here and I’d rather have him leading off than rajai davis.

    Put him at 3b and move bautista back to RF.

    scuts 3b
    esco ss
    lind 1b
    bautista rf
    snider lf
    encarnacion dh
    hill 2b
    arencibia c
    davis cf

    looks good for 3-4 place in the division IMO

    boston doesn’t have too many holes, but they could maybe use another bullpen arm and some catcher depth

    so Jerolomann and Jason Frasor ?

    Reply
    • 0bsessions

      14 years ago

      Scutaro’s coming off of a shoulder problem last year that moved him to second base for the last month or so. I’m not sure third is a good spot for him.

      Reply
      • Lunchbox45

        14 years ago

        but his shoulder problems should be resolved? he’s obviously not going to play 2B for the Sox this year, so if he’s good enough to play SS, sliding over shouldn’t be too taxing on his arm.

        Reply
        • 0bsessions

          14 years ago

          Considering he’s my team’s starting shortstop, I’m hoping he’s okay, but they never did surgery, they just waited for it to heal. We’ll see, but I doubt the extra strain of moving to third would help him any.

          Reply
    • grownice

      14 years ago

      I think your underestimating what Davis will be able to do in the leadoff spot in Toronto’s lineup as opposed to Oaklands, i think the Davis , Escobar combo at the top of the order will be lethal for the Jays this year.

      Reply
  22. Guest 7039

    14 years ago

    Yeah, the red sox are in big trouble.

    Reply

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