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Heyman On Marlins, Pujols, Wilson, Kershaw

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | November 18, 2011 at 3:15pm CDT

The Red Sox have yet to hire a manager, so Jon Heyman of SI.com looks at the dynamics between GM Ben Cherington and Boston’s ownership group and how they are affecting the hiring process. Here are Heyman’s hot stove notes…

  • We heard earlier in the week that the Marlins offered Jose Reyes a $90MM deal, but Heyman’s sources say Miami offered $10-20MM less than that.
  • The Marlins made Albert Pujols a “lowball” offer that would only work if the three-time MVP was intent on playing for Miami, according to Heyman. All things being equal Pujols appears to prefer St. Louis.
  • C.J. Wilson is seeking close to $120MM over six years, according to Heyman. Wilson’s former teammate, Cliff Lee, signed for $120MM over five years last offseason and it would be a coup for Wilson’s agents if they find a similar deal for their client.
  • The Dodgers seem inclined to wait on a possible extension for Clayton Kershaw, according to Heyman. They control the NL Cy Young winner through 2014.
  • The Angels opposed the sale of the Astros to Jim Crane, though they voted in favor of it according to Heyman.
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  1. Alex 18

    13 years ago

    6/$120MM for Wilson? Pfft. I want some of whatever his agents are smoking.

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  2. Phillies_Aces35

    13 years ago

    Sounds like a perfect fit for Washington.

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    • kräftig. entschieden

      13 years ago

      At that price, no thanks. A Buehrle would realistically provide the most value; he probably wouldn’t want more than threeish years, he’d cost maybe 11 or 12 million a year, and he’ll in all likelyhood continue his 11 (!) season-long streak of 200 IP, since he’s less likely to get injured as a soft-tosser (he hasn’t once hit the DL in his career). Sure, the upside is more like a 3 than a 1, but if it’s $40 over 3 for Buehrle vs. 120 over 6 for Wilson, or even 100/5, 80/5, etc etc, I’ll take Buehrle every single time.

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    • The_BiRDS

      13 years ago

      That or he should sign with the D-Bags

      Reply
  3. AmericanMovieFan

    13 years ago

    Holy crap Wilson is delusional!!!! 6 years? Psh. $20 million a season? DOUBLE PSH!

    4 years/$60 million, tops. Seriously. Get your head out of the clouds, get your ego in check and accept that you’re a good second or third starter depending on the club and just…ugh. See, if he gets anything above 4 years and $15MM per season he’s gonna be a massive let down. Just look at A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe for evidence of this theory.

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  4. slider32

    13 years ago

    Wilson is worth 5/75 tops!

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  5. elscorchot

    13 years ago

    i have to call bs on this marlins thing.  we have heard such wildly different amounts that i don’t believe any of it anymore.  just going to wait, and stop believing the hype machine. 

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    • The_BiRDS

      13 years ago

      I think Miami just needs to get a deal done.. All this hype and “lowball” crap in nonsense.. Sign Reyes now so others take Miami seriously 

      Reply
  6. Sean

    13 years ago

    I wouldn’t give Wilson 10+ million a season much less 20!!! These proposed asking prices for players this off season have been absolutely f ing ridiculous

    Reply
  7. Luis

    13 years ago

    I hope the Angels sign him at that price. (Not an Angels fan)

    Reply
  8. bigpat

    13 years ago

    And CJ Wilson doesn’t drink or do drugs, okay… He had to be on something to demand that kind of contract. 

    Reply
  9. Adam Taylor

    13 years ago

    JT must have borrowed from Wilson’s agent’s stash.

    Reply
  10. genius.gm.on.mlb.the.show

    13 years ago

    The marlins are still being cheap as hell lol, it was probably 6 years 70 million

    Reply
  11. cards2WS

    13 years ago

    Wilson has a better chance of watching next season on TV.

    Reply
  12. bayareabeast

    13 years ago

    MARLINS ARE JOKES. YOUR NOT IN ON ALL THE FREE AGENTS IF YOU OFFER HALF THE CONTRACT THEY WILL ACTUALLY GET. yes all caps was necessary. rant over.
     

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    • The_BiRDS

      13 years ago

      LOOK WHAT U DID BLEACHER CREATURE!!! OU FRIGGIN JERK!!! EVERYONE IS JUMPING ON THE CAPS LOCKS DEAL… please stop.

      Reply
      • The_BiRDS

        13 years ago

        Now. I take more Excedrin more than ever now because of your CAPS 

        Reply
        • bayareabeast

          13 years ago

          you say stop but in each post you wrote in caps..

          Reply
          • The_BiRDS

            13 years ago

            Im very aware

            Reply
            • bayareabeast

              13 years ago

              bold strategy

              Reply
  13. Diablo 2

    13 years ago

    Dayum this kid want 120M and comparing himself to Lee..AHAHA Your such a comedian Wilson! Whats the next joke?? 

    Reply
  14. John McFadin

    13 years ago

    Since when did everyone start believing the stuff that spews from Heyman’s mouth.  Does anyone really truly believe Wilson is trying to ask for 6/120?

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    • KyleB

      13 years ago

      It can’t be true. I know CJ has a semi big head, but there’s no way he could ask the Rangers to pay him what they offered Cliff Lee.
      Nolan and JD didn’t even want to offer Lee the 6th year.

      Reply
  15. The_BiRDS

    13 years ago

    If Albert really said he prefers St. Louis after that great South Beach Vaca weekend… then its over for Miami… Sorry you just dont publicly say you prefer one team over the other and then sign with the “burned” team.. I also assume this is Albert or Alberts agents way of saying.. “please St. Louis.. offer me a few million more and its a done deal”

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    • KyleB

      13 years ago

      If he really said that then it’s great news for the Marlins. No way a player (even as great as Pujols) should be paid huge money into his 40’s when he’s already declining.
      I agree with him re-signing with the Cards because I want to see a player of his caliber with the same team through his career…but in reality, that contract will hurt STL badly down the road. Price you pay.

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      • The_BiRDS

        13 years ago

        No it would be great news for the Marlins if Albert took a 9 year 150MM contract.. Its not the MLB teams fault.. they are trying to acquire the all time best hitter in baseball.  The fact that he is 31 and looking for a 9-10 year contract F’s everything up. If he was seeking a huge 5 year contract he would be receiving 5 year 175MM offers. 

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        • KyleB

          13 years ago

          I think Hank Aaron is the best hitter ever in baseball. Pujols still has a while to go before he gets close to Hank.
          Every big player tries to milk as many years into a contract as they can. Pujols has deemed that he is worth a 9 year investment…I don’t think so…but someone will do it.

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          • The_BiRDS

            13 years ago

            Yeah my point exactly.. He should shoot for a 6-7 year deal high annual… then have the opportunity to be a DH somewhere if he still produces. 

            Hank Aaron.. no. Pujols has better numbers than anyone who has played the sport ever. Hank is amazing dont get me wrong.. but Albert is the best.. and someone will take Pujols one day. Look up the numbers.. orrrrr just listen to Sports Center. 

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      • Yo Tega

        13 years ago

        What Pujols have you been watching? Where is the decline? Look at his numbers for the past 5 seasons and he’s been steady…with the only decline coming from the injury shortened season in ’11. Pujols is worth the money, especially for the Cards.

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  16. KyleB

    13 years ago

    I agree, I don’t see why more players don’t shoot for more money but slightly less years. Juat me having a conscience, I wouldn’t be able to feel like a burden to my team by nearing 40 years old and making $22MM+ a year. Then again, i’m not in that position lol.

    Well, he doesn’t have better numbers, yet. He has half the career that Aaron had, but I think he’ll end his career very close to slightly better than Hank. We’ll have to agree to disagree lol. Of couse, everyone feels differently. Some people would argue a case for Ted Williams or Stan Musial or Rose or Mantle or Ruth, etc….maybe even Bonds, Mac, or Sosa….jk lol 😉

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    • kunshack

      13 years ago

      I feel the Cards will front load the contract and defer a bunch of money.  Albert will be the or one of the highest paid ball player for 1-3 years in the league.  Toward the end of the contract it won’t be nearly as much. Not only that, but at the end of the contract Albert will be breaking all sorts of records, if he stays healthy.  This will put people in the stands too, not that St. Louis has a problem filling seats.  The Cards can merchandise like crazy and make a pile of money off the “run at the record books.”

      Reply

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