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NL West Notes: Rockies, Cueto, Puig, Padres

By Mark Polishuk | November 21, 2015 at 3:13pm CDT

With the Rockies in need of starting pitching and the Indians in need of outfield help, Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post wonders if the two clubs could fit as trade partners.  Carlos Gonzalez and Corey Dickerson could both be available if Colorado could land the right arm (or arms) in return, and Danny Salazar, Carlos Carrasco and Trevor Bauer have all been mentioned as possible trade chips for the Tribe this winter.  As Saunders notes, Cleveland could balk at the remaining $37MM on Gonzalez’s contract and the fact that he’d only be controlled through 2017.  Dickerson comes with four years of control and isn’t even eligible for arbitration until next winter, though he’s obviously a much less proven asset than Gonzalez and also missed a lot of time with injuries last season.  Here’s some more from around the NL West…

  • The Diamondbacks have had internal discussions about possibly signing Johnny Cueto, ESPN’s Buster Olney reports (Insider subscription required).  It’s no secret that Arizona has been targeting pitching this offseason, as they’ve been linked to such names as Shelby Miller, Yovani Gallardo and John Lackey on the trade and free agency fronts.  Those pitchers carry a much lower price tag than Cueto would on the open market, however, and it would be surprising to see the mid-market Snakes make a big splurge on the type of nine-figure contract it would take to land Cueto.
  • The Dodgers aren’t likely to trade Yasiel Puig this offseason since his potential is still so high, his contract is reasonably priced and he brings some right-handed hitting balance to an L.A. outfield full of left-handed bats, Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times writes.  The Dodgers would also be selling low on Puig in the wake of his disappointing 2015 season.
  • Olney also addresses the Puig situation in his previously-linked column, reporting that Dodgers upper management “is much more open to the idea of moving Puig than they would’ve been, say, 18 months ago.”  If Puig is really a clubhouse problem, Olney feels the Dodgers should cut their losses and trade him this winter, since they’re one of the few teams with the financial muscle to not have to worry about getting the best possible return back for a sell-low player.
  • The trades of Craig Kimbrel and Joaquin Benoit would seem to open the door for Brandon Maurer to take on a bigger late-game role in the Padres bullpen, Dennis Lin of the San Diego Union-Tribune writes.  The Padres are reportedly looking to add a mid-range bullpen arm, though Lin notes that the team could simply keep Maurer in relief to address that need.  The team hasn’t closed the door on shifting Maurer back to starting pitching, however, since the Padres have rotation needs both this year and in coming seasons.
  • Also from Lin, he reports that the Padres are in talks with Mark McGwire about the ex-slugger becoming the team’s new bench coach, with a source calling McGwire “a very strong candidate for the job.”  McGwire is currently the Dodgers’ hitting coach, though his role with that club is up in the air as they search for a new manager.  Lin reports that the Diamondbacks were also considering McGwire as their new hitting coach but McGwire took himself out of consideration for that position.  Ron Gardenhire had previously been linked to San Diego’s bench coach job, though it now appears as though if he was to join the club, it would be in a front office capacity rather than in the dugout.
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  1. bjsurhoffsgrimace

    10 years ago

    “and he bring a right-handed hitting balance”

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    • bambam

      10 years ago

      All the reasons to dive up his value. Is there a Puig whisper?? Smh

      Reply
  2. blueberryninja

    10 years ago

    I don’t like the idea of the Indians getting CarGo unless they can get him at a discount. I don’t like his stats away from Coors Field. I feel like he wouldn’t help and maybe Dickerson would be the better acquisition from the Rockies.

    Reply
  3. jabmets

    10 years ago

    I was wondering if the mets were to make Harvey available would it be crazy to ask for joc Pederson and Corey seager.

    Reply
    • alex navarrette

      10 years ago

      The Dodgers aren’t going to give away their CF and SS for a pitcher when there are a number of TOR starters available this offseason.

      Reply
      • jabmets

        10 years ago

        For Matt Harvey. Your talking like he’s nothing special.

        Reply
        • Ray Ray

          10 years ago

          And you are thinking like Price, Cueto, and Zimmermann aren’t as good or better than Harvey. It’s the Dodgers, they don’t have to pay in prospects when they basically print money.

          Reply
        • disgruntledreader 2

          10 years ago

          He is a nice pitcher. The Dodgers can afford a great pitcher.

          Reply
    • yonkers22

      10 years ago

      Ummm…there’s no way that would go down. They’re not giving up Seager. Plus why give up 2 extremely young and cheap/talented players for Harvey when they could just open the wallet and pay for Price, Cueto, Zimmermann, Shark, or any of the other top pitchers on the market?

      Reply
      • yonkers22

        10 years ago

        So to answer your question, yes–it would be ludicrous to ask for those 2 guys in exchange for Harvey

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      10 years ago

      Two untouchables for a less than untouchable? Yeahhh… no.

      Reply
  4. Greg David

    10 years ago

    The Indians should balk at Gonzalez and Dickerson’s numbers away from Coors field and especially against AL teams

    Reply
  5. Ray Ray

    10 years ago

    After the Ubaldo debacle from 4 years ago, I am leery of a Cleveland trade with the Rockies. I realize that is completely irrational thinking, but I am a fan I am supposed to be irrational. I’d rather keep CarGo and Dickerson because the Rockies offense was a lot weaker last year than most people think. There are enough pitching prospects that can be paired with the holdovers and possibly a FA signee like Mike Leake or Yovani Gallardo to where the Rockies can have a decent staff. The bullpen is completely blown up, but bargain relievers can be found in February and March.

    Reply
  6. jabmets

    10 years ago

    I’m not saying there wouldn’t be other pieces involved but a few things about Harvey.

    First he is younger then all those guys in the free agent market.

    Second only price and greinke I would rank higher then him.

    Third he is healthy and with more time removed from TJS will be even better next year.

    Fourth no i don’t want to get rid of Harvey but even though joc hit a ton of homers he didn’t hit for average and also got benched by mattingly. Maybe there is another short stop in your system but seager is still unproven. Harvey has proven to be a bull dog and will eat a ton of innings.

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    • seamaholic 2

      10 years ago

      Harvey for a package built around Pederson is in the ballpark. A couple good prospects with Joc, for sure, but no way in you-know-where is Seager part of that package. Dodgers wouldn’t trade Seager straight up for Harvey.

      Reply
      • gopads

        10 years ago

        why would the Mets want Joc, Conforto is enough of a left handed bat out there – looking st the Mets, to get Harvey it would take Seager type player, not many of those around (or even Justin Turner plus more stuff)

        Reply
    • wilymo

      10 years ago

      listen, nobody’s criticizing harvey. he’s very good. the point is just that giving up controlled young talent in a trade is painful and counterproductive when you can just use cash to bring in similar talent instead. especially if you’re a team like the dodgers, with a TV contract that’s basically the replicators from star trek where friedman can just go in his office and say “money, earl grey, hot” and it appears

      Reply
    • Cam

      10 years ago

      It’s odd that you pitch “Harvey will eat a ton of innings”, when that’s exactly what he doesn’t done so far – to the point where the Boras and the narrative have fought for the exact opposite.

      Reply
  7. bambam

    10 years ago

    Could only imagine Zack Greinke throwing Puigs luggage off the bus HA prima-donna.. Couldn’t imagine a change of scenery would solve any clubhouse.

    Reply
    • gopads

      10 years ago

      LA has been an interesting town the last few years – starting to feel like Greinke will pitch elsewhere and thinking Puig will rebound for a strong year in 2016 but the Dodgers still have extra valued OF help so someone out there is very tradeable

      Reply
  8. Bob M.

    10 years ago

    What the Indians need is a right handed outfielder. Ideally a right handed plus defensive centerfielder.

    Reply
    • gopads

      10 years ago

      Melvin Upton?

      Reply
      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        10 years ago

        Good call. We can pay his salary down to where he’s worth what the Indians would be paying him.

        Reply
  9. gopads

    10 years ago

    Big Mac to San Diego & Maurer as the closer who can get you 4-6 outs once in a while – if Maurer is a starter i can’t see the club letting him go over 150-160 innings, with the way he dominated lefties for a stretch i’m all for him taking another year in the pen before making another attempt at being a starter (after the end of his time in Seattle plus a solid year in SD, it becomes obvious he thrives out of the pen)

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  10. SixFlagsMagicPadres

    10 years ago

    I don’t know, for some reason I don’t like the sound of McGwire in San Diego.

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