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Marlins’ Michael Hill: Jose Fernandez “Not Available”

By Jeff Todd | December 7, 2015 at 10:18pm CDT

10:16pm: The Diamondbacks are “out” of any effort to pry Fernandez from Miami, tweets Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. Miami was seeking two of Arizona’s “best” players as well as “top prospects,” per the report.

8:06pm: Despite Hill’s comments, Stark reports (Twitter link) that the Marlins “think they’re making progress” on a deal with an “unspecified team.” He adds that a trade still seems unlikely.

6:18pm: Marlins president of baseball operations Michael Hill told Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald (Twitter links) that Fernandez is “not available.” Here’s the full quote: “He’s not available. We haven’t made him available. But, it doesn’t stop the phone calls from happening.”

5:56pm: A source tells ESPN.com’s Buster Olney that the odds of a Fernandez deal appear to have dramatically increased over the course of the day. (Twitter link.) What seemed like a negligible possibility at the outset of the Winter Meetings could now be nearing even odds, per Olney’s source.

5:25pm: The Yankees have joined the two other clubs in “digging” for information on Fernandez, Stark reports. That could indicate that those organizations are looking to size up what they’d be willing to offer, of course, though it hardly suggests that Miami’s understandably steep asking price will fall to a palatable level.

10:12am: The Marlins also spoke to the Diamondbacks about Fernandez, reports Rosenthal (via Twitter), but Miami asked for a return of Patrick Corbin plus other pieces. The chances of a deal between the two sides are “slim,” per Rosenthal, who says Arizona is likely to look at lesser pitchers in trades after these seemingly brief talks.

8:11am: Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports tweets that the Marlins asked the Dodgers for both Julio Urias and Corey Seager in exchange for Fernandez, illustrating the fact that the Marlins aren’t shopping him but only looking to move him if they can receive an overwhelming return. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports asked one rival exec what he thought the Dodgers would need to part with in order to acquire Fernandez, and the exec said Urias, Seager and Scott Van Slyke — an even more sizable haul.

2:52am: The Dodgers and others have checked in on Fernandez but MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro reports (Twitter link) that “no serious talks” have taken place.  Frisaro says Miami will listen to teams but he reiterates that a Fernandez trade isn’t likely to happen.

12:48am: Despite public protestations, the Marlins are holding trade discussions regarding prized righty Jose Fernandez, Jayson Stark of ESPN.com reports. Talks have been had with the Dodgers and at least two other teams, one of which appears to be the Diamondbacks, per the report.

That being said, Stark emphasizes that the organization is putting such a huge asking price on the 23-year-old that it’s still considered “a long shot” that anything will get done. The Marlins are reportedly advising other teams that they’d need to a return that would make the team “better next season than they would be if they kept Fernandez,” while also improving the future outlook. That’s obviously a tall order.

Miami president of baseball operations Michael Hill said recently that there was no truth to rumors that the team was interested in considering a trade of the youthful ace. “Not sure where all of that came from,” Hill said. “He sits at the front of our rotation. We are not shopping Jose Fernandez. I don’t know what more I can say. He’s a good pitcher, one of the best in the league, so you’re going to get asked about him. But we are not shopping Jose Fernandez.”

To be fair, there’s a significant difference between “shopping” and “listening” in the baseball lexicon, and the Fish appear to be doing more of the latter than the former. But as Stark indicates, the discussions could suggest that Miami is more amenable to considering a deal than has previously been let on.

MLBTR projects Fernandez to earn just $2.2MM in his first of three arbitration-eligible seasons. That relatively meager sum is the result of his Tommy John surgery, which held him to just 116 1/3 frames over the past two seasons. While the elbow issue remains something of a concern, despite a strong comeback performance, in another sense it enhanced his value by tamping down his earning capacity.

Fernandez has been nothing short of dominant when on the hill, of course. All told, he’s thrown 289 innings of 2.40 ERA ball, with 10.5 K/9 against 2.6 BB/9. There’s little question that he’s one of the game’s most effective starters, with his low cost and youth making him one of the most intriguing assets in baseball.

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  1. bleumagicc

    10 years ago

    Dodgers Need to make this happen. Oh man!

    Reply
    • DW

      10 years ago

      They sure do love their Cubans in LA. I suppose Kramer is somewhat involved in the front office.

      Reply
    • williamg

      10 years ago

      Prob will only happen if marlins take anyone except urais

      Reply
    • Philliesfan4life

      10 years ago

      But I don’t think the dodgers are willing to trade Urias for him, and thats what it would cost to get fernandez or a sonny gray type pitcher.

      Reply
    • Rooster

      10 years ago

      No actually they don’t. Dodgers need to fix that club house. Jose is a step backwards. He is a malcontent and princess. Dodgers have enough problems. Better to trade for character guys like a SP from the Indians. Puig and Jose would be a bad mix.

      Reply
      • AGAVE

        10 years ago

        That’s good enuff for me NOT to offer Urias.
        Walk away AF

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    • sandman12

      10 years ago

      Here it is: Jose, Prado, Ozuna and either Dunn or Ramos for …. Saeger, Urias and Pederson. Dodgers get Cy Young top five contender, a cheap ($8 mil) rental for 3b or 2b, and a CF plus pen help. Marlins get a 3b and cf for next five years and a young pitcher with real potential.

      Reply
      • R.D.

        10 years ago

        I think the Dodgers balk. But they’d have to think about it.

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  2. dieharddodgerfan

    10 years ago

    If the Dodgers offer Urias for Fernandez, the Marlins should take that deal and not look back. Urias is going to be an ace, hands down, and Fernandez clearly has no intention of staying in Miami.

    The Dodgers would only deal Urias for a pitcher like Fernandez, and even then only because Greinke didn’t take $155 mill from the Dodgers.

    If Greinke were still a Dodger, Urias would still be untouchable.

    Reply
    • McGlynn

      10 years ago

      Where is the evidence that Urias is going to be an unquestionable ace? He’s only 19. There have been PLENTY of ‘can’t miss’ prospects that have missed. Until he’s blowing away MLB hitters every fifth day he’s not an ace.

      Reply
      • Halo27

        10 years ago

        Todd van Poppel

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        • dieharddodgerfan

          10 years ago

          Again, that’s fine with me. I hope the Dodgers keep Urias. He’ll be starting in the Dodgers rotation by the end of ’16 or ’17 at the latest. I’ll gladly keep the future ace.

          Reply
          • williamg

            10 years ago

            No worries dodgers have always said he is not being traded especially when he’ll probably be called up in 2 yrs

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        • marc65

          10 years ago

          It was a different world when Van Poppel played. By the time players get drafted today, they’ve been facing the best competition possible for years. Hitters probably have over 1000 at bats and pitchers are throwing 90 mph with pitches they can control if not command. Can’t miss prospects these days don’t miss unless they are plagued by injuries

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          • bruinsfan94 2

            10 years ago

            Can’t miss prospects don’t miss anymore? Damn someone should go tell Lars Anderson that.

            Reply
      • dieharddodgerfan

        10 years ago

        Dude, he’s an ace. He’s been dominating the minors and has been considerably younger than his competition each step of the way.

        Lol, I personally am fine with keeping Urias. IMO, he’s the next dominant lefty ace for the Dodgers once Kershaw is gone.

        Only reason I am even ok with trading Urias is because Greinke is gone.

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        • AsFan89

          10 years ago

          Ace requires dominating MLB hitters for at least three years IMO.

          Reply
          • dieharddodgerfan

            10 years ago

            Right, you can never project. Urias has been dominating hitters years older than him since he has been a Dodger. I hope the Dodgers keep him, personally. I want him in the Dodgers rotation.

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        • cxcx

          10 years ago

          Since when did a 3.81 ERA (what Urias put up in the minors last year) become “dominating?”

          I get that he’s a great prospect and may well be an ace in the future or even now if you feel like insisting but a 3.81 ERA has never been and unless the game changes to where teams are averaging twice as many runs a game as now will never be a “dominating” ERA.

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          • bigkempin

            10 years ago

            He was 18 last season and advanced through 4 different levels in the minors while facing batters much older than him.

            Reply
        • hul10

          10 years ago

          Urias is not an ace and hasn’t dominated the minors. He was lit up in AAA, giving up 15 runs in just 5 innings over his last three starts. And for all the talk about how young he is, Madison Bumgarner was starting World Series games at the same point in his career.

          Reply
    • sdsuphilip

      10 years ago

      Counting on any prospect to be a ace is very risky, and then saying hands down puts the icing on the cake, like it’s a given. There are no prospects that are hands down going to be a ace, there are probabilities and Urias and Glasnow have the best probabilities but it’s still actually low that they turn into legitimate aces. Marlins would need to get more than urias to even consider the deal.

      Reply
    • Bringbacktheblue

      10 years ago

      No way you need to send way more than Urias.

      Reply
      • McGlynn

        10 years ago

        Miami doesn’t want to trade him unless a crazy deal comes their way. For Fernandez, it would have to be a package like Urias, Delion and Holmes to get it done.

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    • williamg

      10 years ago

      Doesn’t matter if greinke is a dodger or not urias is still untouchable

      Reply
    • bkbkbk

      10 years ago

      Urias, Seager and Lee would be the start and my guess is they’d want a ML’er too. Fernandez is CRAZY valuable.

      Reply
    • hanks1hammer

      10 years ago

      Your reasoning is insane. You think Urias who WILL be an ace is as valuable as Fernandez who IS an ace? Urias would be a start and that still wouldn’t be enough because as the article states, the Marlins are looking for players that will make them better without Fernandez.

      Reply
      • mattsmattedin

        10 years ago

        Can’t reason with Dodgers fans, who probably wouldn’t want to trade a top 10 hitting prospect for Trout.

        Reply
      • greatd

        10 years ago

        Is that a given?
        There have been bust top prospects before right?

        Reply
    • Ovadia

      10 years ago

      TINSTAAPP

      Reply
  3. The Oregonian

    10 years ago

    Not expecting this to happen, but a package centered around Puig with another good prospect would be a good return. A Yelich-Puig-Stanton outfield would be pretty exciting for years to come.

    Reply
    • jacobyrush25

      10 years ago

      Don’t think anything centered around Puig would be enough to convince the Marlins to move Jose Fernandez. If Puig were to be involved in a prospective deal it would be in a secondary capacity. The deal would have to be headlined by a big name prospect.

      Reply
      • monk81

        10 years ago

        Something along the lines of Urias-DeLeon-Puig for Fernandez-Ozuna.

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        • williamg

          10 years ago

          Nope.

          Reply
        • Brixton

          10 years ago

          Not even close

          Reply
    • Bringbacktheblue

      10 years ago

      Lol no way. Dodgers need to send their top 4 prospects for Fernandez.

      Reply
    • williamg

      10 years ago

      That would prob weaken the dodgers a little and they seem to want to get more for a trade than give.

      Reply
  4. g55s

    10 years ago

    Dodgers dont want to give up any prospects but now want Fernandez? K

    Reply
    • vtadave

      10 years ago

      Dodgers aren’t trading Seager for anyone not named Trout or Harper. I imagine a guy like Fernandez could change their tune on dealing Urias, but if the price is both, Fernandez won’t be a Dodger.

      Reply
  5. brandonmarin

    10 years ago

    Watch the dbacks surprise again. LA would be so mad.

    Reply
    • mrnatewalter

      10 years ago

      As a Giants fan, I wouldn’t even be upset.

      Reply
    • williamg

      10 years ago

      Why would dodgers be upset its not dback would finish ahead of them.

      Reply
  6. Halo27

    10 years ago

    Watch Gray and Sale be up for grabs very soon.

    Reply
    • ImDaBaron

      10 years ago

      Yeah the chances of Sale being traded is incredibly low

      Reply
      • g55s

        10 years ago

        I’d say the same about Gray but you never know with A’s haha

        Reply
        • williamg

          10 years ago

          A’s prob trade almost anyone

          Reply
  7. sdsuphilip

    10 years ago

    Now it sounds like a deal still won’t happen, but 1 possible team I’m interested in making a run at him would be the Rangers. They still have Mazara, Gallo, Profar is wildcard but as a third piece he has great upside, Brinson’s prospect status is way up after last year. Luis Ortiz has a ton of potential, Chi Chi gonzalez is still there. Dillon Tate has huge potential.

    You get the picture, Rangers could really go for it with Jose and have a long term asset, now if I was the Marlins I wouldn’t deal him but the rangers have the rare combination of top end talent (Mazara/Gallo) and depth in the system to make it enticing if they really do have a bad relationship with him/his agent

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    • charles stevens

      10 years ago

      Rangers have a solid rotation with Darvish and Hamels at the top. No reason for them to overpay for Fernandez. I feel like they would be better served keeping their assets for now unless an opportunity to fill a hole were to present itself. (catcher, big right handed bat for outfield)

      Reply
    • atd469

      10 years ago

      I wouldn’t deal the farm for Fernandez.He’s one of the best starters in the game I get that.But I kinda feel his attitude wouldn’t play here.He basically came out and said he didn’t want to be in Miami.The main thing is he hits FA in 3 years.Theoretically Gallo is eventually going to take over for Beltre when he retires.Hamilton’s contract is up in 18 if he even lasts that long due to all his injuries and Mazara would probably be a good replacement for him.Say we did send our top 3 (Gallo,Mazara, and Tate) for Fernandez.In 2019 Fernandez will get a 200+ mil contract just like Price,Greinke, or Scherzer.He wouldn’t sign here and then we’d be rebuilding because he traded everything for him.

      Reply
  8. treday

    10 years ago

    Maybe Friedman’s plan is to get ALL the Cubans

    Reply
    • redsox239

      10 years ago

      He can take Castillo

      Reply
      • Varitek'sMitt

        10 years ago

        I agree

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    • Ruben_Tomorrow 2

      10 years ago

      Friedman, wants Cuban baseball players to feel like free men. I know it’s awful…

      Reply
  9. baseball714

    10 years ago

    wrong jose fernandez

    Reply
    • drewm

      10 years ago

      baseball-reference.com/players/f/fernajo02.shtml

      Reply
  10. The Oregonian

    10 years ago

    Urias and Puig for Fernandez and Ozuna?

    Reply
    • Matt Tobin

      10 years ago

      I think the Dodgers would greatly prefer Urias to Ozuna.

      Reply
      • The Oregonian

        10 years ago

        Clearly, but since Fernandez is more valuable than Puig, I thought that might balance it out.

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        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          10 years ago

          No

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        • Matt Tobin

          10 years ago

          I’m not sure that is true. Puig has 2 4+ WAR seasons. Fernandez has 1,is a pitcher, and has injury history.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      10 years ago

      Yeah so who is going to play cf in a spacious ballpark in Miami because neither Puig nor yelich can. Plus mattingly is not a fan of Puig. As a Dodgers fan I’m smart enough to know the package starts at Pederson and Urias plus a whole lot others. Puig’s stock is so low loria isn’t dumb enough not to mention Puig can decide to opt to arb for his final two years if he fulfills his potential in 16.

      Reply
      • drm166

        10 years ago

        That would be pretty funny – Mattingly escapes Puig in LA and promptly has to deal with him in Miami.

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    • bradthebluefish

      10 years ago

      You’d have to include Corey Seager in order for that to work. Only then would the Marlins would listen.

      Reply
  11. Matt Tobin

    10 years ago

    The Puig-Fernandez trade rumors are heating up. Then the Dodgers go bananas and sign Heyward.

    Reply
  12. wielandbrett

    10 years ago

    It would have to be Urias seager and puig I’m almost guessing for the Marlins to pull the trigger

    Reply
  13. redsox239

    10 years ago

    Swihart, Devers, Owens or Johnson + others for Fernandez? Maybe they will want Espinosa to. My dream 1-2 before the season even started was Price-Fernandez. One down, and one is actually in trade rumors, pretty interesting.

    Reply
    • Ray Ray

      10 years ago

      Am I missing something? Where do you see the Red Sox being involved in this trade rumor?

      Reply
      • redsox239

        10 years ago

        Who cares? It says “Two Others” its open for speculation, and the Marlins are listening/discussing with teams at least on the the possibility of moving Fernandez, got it?

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        • Ray Ray

          10 years ago

          Oh okay. I don’t mind pure speculation. I just thought I was missing something. In that case, the Rockies could be the other team. Rodgers and McMahon could be an excellent start for a Fernandez package.

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          • redsox239

            10 years ago

            Sorry if I sounded annoyed, and the Rockies have an amazing farm system so they could definitely pull off a nice trade, but with Seager I don’t know if Rodgers would be their ideal return prospect.

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            • Ray Ray

              10 years ago

              No offense taken at all. But the Marlins wouldn’t have Seager. I was excluding the Dodgers from the deal and going straight to the Marlins. Rodgers and McMahon could be a very nice Marlins left side of the infield in the future.

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          • camronj427@yahoo.com

            10 years ago

            I’m assuming Blackmon would be in there. The Marlins sound like they want to sell but also win. Although I don’t know about the staff. But leave it to them to go and sign a guy like cueto

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          • redsox239

            10 years ago

            I don’t know what I was thinking lol I mixed up the Dodgers with the Marlins, but yeah that would be a nice start, but Marlins want 5-6 good players reportedly.

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      • User 4245925809

        10 years ago

        Think it’s more if they decided to get involved and wishful thinking on that poster as well. Now it seems the NYY are wishing they had fernandez and the 3 top kids they have aren’t up there with what Boston has left after the Kimbrell deal (Moncada, Espinoza, Devers) and they also have Kopech and lesser extent Chavis from what BA called the best team in the minors last season.. The Sox Greenville club.

        Need a CF Miami? Even if his bat never fully develops, Jackie bradley has one of the finest gloves and arms of any CF’er currently playing and could move him.

        Do they *need* Fernandez? No, could any team *use* another ace? You bet. Not every team can afford one is the problem and one can bet if the D-Backs are going to get him, they will be missing Pollack afterwards and the LAD 2 0f Urias-Seager-Pederson.

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    • The Oregonian

      10 years ago

      I feel like they signed Price so they could acquire a #1 without having to give up prospects. I don’t think they should trade for Fernandez now.

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      • redsox239

        10 years ago

        Probably true, but I think we still could use a solid #2..Obviously Fernandez is better than a two but these are the type of rotations Dombrowski likes (see Tigers). We could still have a solid core (Betts, Boegarts, E-Rod, Fernandez etc.) and good prospects (Benintendi, Moncada etc.) while having Fernandez at the same time w/ the #12 pick still. I’d offer something like Swihart, Devers, Owens, Miley or Buchholz, Travis etc. if they accept they accept if they don’t they don’t.

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  14. ecat72

    10 years ago

    Wonder if the pirates would be could be looking into this. He’d fit their salary restrictions. They could center a package around Tyler Glasnow. Wouldn’t mind watching a Cole, Fernandez combo.

    Reply
  15. formerlyz

    10 years ago

    Would the Dodgers do something like Jose Fernandez, Marcell Ozuna, Brad Hand, and Bryan Morris for Yasiel Puig, Corey Seager, Julio Urias, Jose De Leon Or Yadier Alvarez, and Austin Barnes? or would that be a ridiculously steep asking price with all of the top prospects going out? Kershaw and Fernandez would be extremely dominant at the top of the rotation. Ozuna can give you a cheaper option for Puig that you have an extra year of control over, and he can play CF, if necessary. Also, Ozuna is widely liked by the rest of the clubhouse, which would be an upgrade from the Puig situation with some of his teammates. Morris helps in the bullpen, as he gets GBs at a pretty high percentage.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      10 years ago

      If the Marlins valued Barnes they would have kept him. Seager is not going anywhere. Morris is a former dodger hand. This trade isn’t happening unless loria gets involved. At that rate he loved Crawford but not now. Fernandez only works in a three team trade where another team wants ozuna.

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      • formerlyz

        10 years ago

        The Dee Gordon trade was abhorrent from the beginning. I think the Marlins know they could use someone like Barnes, and they liked him when he was in the organization for obvious reasons.

        Fernandez is only 23 and would be able to slide in at the spot behind Kershaw, replacing Greinke for exponentially cheaper. I have felt that the Dodgers wouldnt move those guys, but I wonder if that would still be true f it involved Jose Fernandez. Reports are saying this is something close to what the Marlins are asking for. So its not outlandish. The Dodgers probably should just keep their players, but I dont see them getting Fernandez without giving up anything in return. Most teams are going to ask for Seager or Urias in trades for highly valued players. If the Dodgers dont want to move either of them, they’ll have to aim lower. That being said, someone like Fernandez seems like the kind of piece that makes sense to trade for, as he is pretty much the same age as their young guys, but is already an established TOR arm

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    • williamg

      10 years ago

      Hmmmm…that is absolutely the very worst trade speculation I have ever heard anyone say

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      • formerlyz

        10 years ago

        it was a question, and it isnt abhorrent compared to other things we’ve seen

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        • williamg

          10 years ago

          I said worst trade I have ever seen on here because usually they benefit both teams or even go along with what the trade teams are trying to do, but the dodger side of that trade not only goes against what they have been trying o do the last 3yrs but also weakens them in the future. It seems more like a fantasy baseball trade than something that could be possible

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  16. hanks1hammer

    10 years ago

    Trading someone like Fernandez is an interesting excercise and completely futile, probably. Between his pitching dominance and team friendly income getting a comparable amount of value in prospects is difficult to imagine. But the article seems to imply that any trade has to be able to make the Marlins a better team in 2016, so prospects don’t seem to what they want. Any trade seems like it would defeat the purpose.

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  17. stoi

    10 years ago

    The idea that the Marlins would trade Fernandez for only Urias is just asinine. This is going to take a package that will be outlandish! We’re talking like Urias, one of Pederson or Seager + extra pieces. Three years of control over Fernandez is insanely valuable. Granted, I don’t think the Dodgers should ever consider that, but this is like getting young Felix Hernandez for three years at 30 million total.

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  18. clooz

    10 years ago

    If they actually do something like this, I’m jumping ship.

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    • Ken M.

      10 years ago

      I really enjoyed seeing you in orange at the world series again, MarlinMan.

      Reply
      • jtt11 2

        10 years ago

        Me too

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  19. mrshyguy99

    10 years ago

    I would hate to trade Urias but I guess it ok to trade him if it for a guy like Fernandez. A trade like Holmes Urias and puig could be a start. But a trade would depend on if they get chapman and what prospects they have left to trade

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  20. radioball123

    10 years ago

    This is screaming three team deal.

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  21. beyou02215

    10 years ago

    Puig is only singed through 2018. I doubt he’d be a centerpiece in a trade. The Marlins would probably want more control from a main player coming back.

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  22. Gary333

    10 years ago

    Would Mattingly even want to deal with the likes of Puig again?

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    • hojostache

      10 years ago

      That would be hysterical….the press conferences at least.

      Reply
  23. tuna411

    10 years ago

    Jays should be in on fernandez.

    Aaron Sanchez
    Kevin Pillar
    1 or 2 high ranking prospect

    Reply
  24. Tim Dierkes

    10 years ago

    Testing!

    Reply
    • roguesaw

      10 years ago

      Loud and clear!

      Reply
    • JoeyPankake

      10 years ago

      Why do I have to click “show” to see the comments?

      Reply
  25. sax332n86

    10 years ago

    There is only one player in entire Dodger organization with more value than Corey Seager, and that is Clayton Kershaw. LA is not going to include him in any deal. Mattingly could tell Miami that, so it is obvious that they aren’t really interested in trading him.

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    • YourDaddy

      10 years ago

      A rookie prospect is the most valuable player in the system? Ouch! The Dodgers are in much worse trouble than I thought. Maybe they get a 75 win season?

      Reply
      • Joe McMahon

        10 years ago

        Lol, the Dodgers are fine, it’s just that Corey Seager is immensely talented. He’s a lot more valuable than everyone in the Padres organization too, don’t worry.

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  26. Gardner_012

    10 years ago

    If they are gonna strike a deal it would probably end up being a size able deal with multiple prices moving around, Urias, Seager, Puig, can Slyke and Lee for Fernandez Ozuna and Hecchavaria something crazy weird along those lines at least in my opinion, to get Fernandez from Miami it would take a massive haul and I don’t see it getting done because of how high the dodgers are on their top two prospects, other teams I could see asking would be the Yankees but it’s obvious Miami would want bird and severino and maybe even judge as well, and despite Fernandez injury history he’d be well worth the risk because he’s the type of pitcher that doesn’t come along so often, I put him up there with Keisha’s, madbum and waino as a big name ace, he’s worth a big haul

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    • Gardner_012

      10 years ago

      Pieces *

      Van Slyke*

      Kershaw*

      Stupid autocorrect

      Reply
  27. Niekro

    10 years ago

    If they were willing to trade Seager at all which I highly doubt they would be better off going for Harvey who is further along in his TJ return with same control remaining,

    Reply
  28. onlyringsmatter

    10 years ago

    I wonder if Marlins would trade Fernandez for Moncada and Devers.It’s like Seager and Urias from the Dodgers

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    • Niekro

      10 years ago

      Not quite the same Moncada and Devers are in A ball, Urias is in AAA and Seager is in the majors which is why asking for both is just not smart.. If the Marlins are doing typical tear down that trade actually seems a lot more likely though with other prospects added to it, could be something that is discussed toward the trade deadline if the Marlins struggle..

      Reply
  29. joew

    10 years ago

    auto linker linked wrong jose fernandez

    Reply
  30. Admiral Rusty T. Shackleford

    10 years ago

    JF has already had one TJ. He’s one pitch away from his career being over. To think the Dodgers would trade a cornerstone like Seager AND a phenom like Urias is beyond asinine

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    • Ray Ray

      10 years ago

      Seager has played in 27 big league baseball games. I don’t think he qualifies as a cornerstone yet. Phenom, yes perhaps, but definitely not cornerstone.

      Reply
  31. cjcicerone18

    10 years ago

    Fernandez and ozuna for seager puig urias and de leon

    Reply
  32. MrAnderson1018

    10 years ago

    I love me some Corbin, but if it’s him Bradley/Blair someone else, I’d do it. Fern and Corbin both had Tommy John so they’re on the same level of injury risk, but Fern is younger and a lot more dominant. Win now Dbacks!

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  33. greatd

    10 years ago

    No way would I trade someone with some much control for anyone besides a future ace.
    The Marlins have to be crazy to give up a Cy Young contender for what the Dodgers are willing to part with.
    It’s gotta be Seager or Urias who can contribute at a star level right away.

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  34. Burback

    10 years ago

    I would have no problem giving up Urias.. And unproven 19 yr old prospect or a Proven Ace who’s already got 2-3 experience? And a good cheap contract..I know Urias is a huge big time prospect but still? I wouldn’t have a problem with trading him

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  35. YourDaddy

    10 years ago

    What this shows is that once again the Marlins FO lied. They said Fernandez absolutely was not on the table. They were not trading him, period. What they actually meant was we haven’t received a big enough offer yet, but when we do he is gone.

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  36. YourDaddy

    10 years ago

    TIM!!!! What the heck did you do to your comments system? We cant see posts unless we click on them? Leave a reply is at bottom, not top of page? Are you trying to get us to not post? .

    Reply
  37. Cias

    10 years ago

    this would be wonderful lol

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  38. Bob Smiley

    10 years ago

    I can’t believe Patrick Corbin would be a road block to acquiring Jose. throw in bust boy Archie too. Jose is legit.

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  39. Gardner_012

    10 years ago

    If the deals were going to happen they would have to happen hear ways ( they won’t )

    Yankees Get – Fernandez

    Marlins get- Judge, Severino, Sanchez

    Dodgers get – Jose Fernandez
    Marlins get- Julio Urias, Corey Seager, Van Slyke

    Dbacks get Fernandez
    Marlins get Corbin, Jake lamb Chris owingsand Maybe Socrates Brito

    These trades are all crazy and don’t think any team should go for him let alone the Marlins shopping the only good starter they have

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    • donniebaseball

      10 years ago

      Not enough on either the yanks or the Diamondbacks in your proposal. Realistically, very few teams would have the ability to trade for Fernandez. You’re looking at 2 top ten (in baseball) prospects.

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      • treday

        10 years ago

        I think the Yankees proposal is close, but the DBacks proposal wouldn’t be enough. To your point, this isn’t a volume trade, it would need to be stars (aka 2 top ten prospects). While Judge and Severino didn’t quite make it that high, Severino looked like the real deal last year, and Judge will be around the 15 spot in the prospect lists to start the year

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    • mlbdodgerfan2015

      10 years ago

      No way the Dodgers give up Seager and Urias. Seager is not going to get traded, period. Urias the Dodgers could part with for a special player. Maybe Urias and Puig.

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    • yanks02026

      10 years ago

      LOL Yankees WILL NOT give up both Severino and judge. Whats the point of trading a young pitcher for another young pitcher. Severino showed in his small sample size that he could become a very good pitcher.

      Reply
  40. forum199

    10 years ago

    Yasiel Puig, Alex Wood, Jose De Leon, and Alex Verdugo for Jose Fernandez seems like a fair deal for both sides.

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    • mlbdodgerfan2015

      10 years ago

      I think too much to give up given Fernandez’s injury history.

      Reply
      • forum199

        10 years ago

        It does seem like a lot to give up (I’m also a Dodger fan); the biggest problem would be trading Puig at drastically reduced value. Maybe just Puig, DeLeon, and Wood?

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        • treday

          10 years ago

          That deal would depend entirely on how Miami views Alex Wood’s stock. The Dodgers FO was obviously pretty high on him, but I’m not as sure the rest of baseball feels the same way.

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          • forum199

            10 years ago

            Yeah, I figured they would want a major league player in return and a young, cheap rotation replacement has to have value. Either way, a Puig and De Leon framework seems to make sense.

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        • mlbdodgerfan2015

          10 years ago

          Puig’s value has definitely declined but probably not as much as one would expect. GMs are always looking for upside. I’d part with him as long as there is enough perceived value. Despite his tremendous athletic upside I’m having my doubts about him as a baseball player. Probably the most “not smart” baseball player I’ve ever seen. Not smart running the bases, throwing the ball, going after the ball, hitting the ball, etc. Has a lot of bat speed, but there is always the cerebral aspect of the game and Puig is close to a zero out of 100. Chases the high fastball and slider down away. No adjustments. Zero. And how long has he been in the majors that he can’t figure out how to steal bases with all that speed.

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      • Tko11

        10 years ago

        Thats too low if anything…Puig’s value is as low as its been (not sure the Marlins would even want him). I think if a trade were to happen for Fernandez Urias would be the headliner and another guy like Seager or Pederson would have to be involved.

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  41. Bob Smiley

    10 years ago

    wonder if the Astros could dangle a few guys? they have: Marisinick. Singleton. Daz. Preston Tucker. Appel. Kyle Tucker. – Carlos Gomez.

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    • beyou02215

      10 years ago

      I don’t think any of them could serve a centerpiece in a trade for Fernandez. I think it would take a massive, massive haul to land him with with close to MLB-ready talent.

      Reply
  42. GoBraves

    10 years ago

    I hope Dbacks sweep Ina BD offer a couple of their stud prospect pitchers and a corner OF and make this happen.

    Reply
  43. hojostache

    10 years ago

    This has been an interesting read. I’m thinking Harvey could get similar offers after next season (w 2yr of control left), as the Mets have ZERO chance of resigning him.

    Reply
  44. yanks02026

    10 years ago

    I think it’s funny people bash the Yankees and say they have no farm system. They’re probably in the top 15 now and both Severino(didn’t pitch many games this year so think he’s still a prospect???) and Judge are both top 20. Sanchez has to be within the top 100. And soon Mateo will be also

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  45. justinept

    10 years ago

    Cubs are one of the few teams that could conceivably meet this asking price without really hurting their chances in 2016…. A package of Soler, Torres, Almora, Hammel and Edwards could get it done. That’s star potential with Soler and Torres; a potential GG (albeit light-hitting) CF in Almora; and a potential closer in Edwards. Hammel is essentially a throw-in – a relatively low-cost option at the back end of the rotation – since Miami claims to be interested in contending this year (with or without Fernandez) …

    Reply
  46. mookiessnarl

    10 years ago

    “Jose Fernandez is not available. But hypothetically, if he was, what would you offer for Jose Fernandez?”

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  47. ray_derek

    10 years ago

    He’s not available then followed by: we’re making progress.

    The Miami Marlins everybody.

    Reply
  48. Matt Galvin

    10 years ago

    It would have to be a Blockbuster including Top Prospects but would be head line of Meetings. They are nut looking to move any Starters burn add a SP like Cueto.

    Reply
  49. jonscriff

    10 years ago

    it says they are making progress towards a trade for him but it also says unlikely to be traded though… like what

    Reply
  50. start_wearing_purple

    10 years ago

    And the award for most conflicting reports goes to…

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  51. Dwalt

    10 years ago

    So he will be traded by the end of the week ?

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    • YourDaddy

      10 years ago

      ABSOLUTELY. The one thing we know to be completely true is that if its the Marlins front office speaking, they are lying. Pretty much the only questions is what other team will Fernandez be pitching for in 2016, because it isnt likely to be the Marlins.

      Reply
  52. ekim666

    10 years ago

    I love how involved these teams are for a trade that will ” never happen “. I look forward to the ridiculous package the Marlins will inevitably get for Fernandez

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