Here are some items from around baseball as we head into the new week…
- The Cubs wouldn’t trade Kyle Schwarber for Andrew Miller, a source tells Joel Sherman of the New York Post. Sherman pegs the Yankees and Cubs as good trade partners given Chicago’s possible weakness in the back of the bullpen and New York’s need for young position player talent. Schwarber, of course, is out of action until 2017 after undergoing season-ending surgery in early April but is still one of the game’s most highly-touted young sluggers.
- Sherman’s piece outlines several younger players from around the league who could be Yankees targets if the Bombers indeed decide to become deadline sellers. While Miller or Aroldis Chapman have been heavily cited as the most obvious trade chips, Sherman suggests New York could explore the market for a wide range of players, including Carlos Beltran, Brett Gardner, Brian McCann, Nathan Eovaldi, Michael Pineda or even Dellin Betances.
- The Giants could trade “for a complementary player,” Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle opines (Twitter link), but he doesn’t think the club will swing a major deal at this time of the year. With Hunter Pence gone for at least two months following hamstring surgery, the Giants have already been discussing trade targets, though they have a number of outfield options already on the roster.
- Rangers GM Jon Daniels talks to Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News about the 2006 draft, which was Daniels’ first in charge of the Texas front office. While the Rangers found some good talent in that draft class, their first-round pick was rather a notable miss. Daniels said his team was eyeing Tim Lincecum with the 12th overall selection but the Rangers were surprised when the Giants drafted Lincecum tenth overall. Texas instead took high school lefty Kasey Kiker, who never made it higher than Double-A and has been out of pro ball since 2012.
I would not understand it if they trade Betances or Eovaldi, they are young good players with a future. Trading Chapman makes sense if they don’t feel they are going to resign him. Miller is signed thru 18 and did a great job last year. Beltran’s last year as good as he’s been I understand and Gardner is just not what I thought he’d be. Pineda is NO king Felix as they thought they were getting and McCann is still solid. The Yanks are going nowhere this year but lets not trade away young talent either.
You literally named 1 young player in that group and its eovaldi. Everyone else is old and or nearing the end of their contract. They need to trade away their big pieces, in exchange for some highly talented prospects. That and freeing up some cash will help the Yankees be successful in the years to come
Betances is 28 and Pineda is 27. They are still young.
They’re in their prime. If you can get talent in prospects for them, do it. A top 10 system and that ridiculous Free Agent class in a few years with the Yankees clear payroll. That’s their best bet at title 28.
The reasons it makes sense to trade any of Novaldi or Pineda is because they are both free agents at the end of the year and maybe the Yanks feel like neither have distinguished themselves worthy enough to make a competitive offer in a free and open market. I had wished that they attempt to extend them this past winter because they would probably get them on a discount but it didn’t happen.
As for Betances, while I love him, he’s a relief pitcher on a team that has a lot of holes. He’s worth dangling to see what they can get. That being said, what they could get is probably going to be a couple of top prospects in the top 20-150 range (not a top 20 ranked prospect).
All other position players aside from Headley and Gardner have no trade clauses that need to be waived in order to trade them, Let’s not assume that’s easier said than done.
Yanks hitters are old and/bad. Farm system isn’t electric. Free agency not exactly strong this winter. What else can they do to build? Trade some one to get some one type thing
Have to agree with you there. Even as a Sox fan, trading Betances makes no sense to me. The Yankees are usually pretty good at making smart moves, Pineda may not be King Felix, but he was still a steal for Montero, who amounted to a pile of turd in Seattle. Evoldi was a good pick up as well. If you can stop the front office from throwing stupid money at guys, you’ll be back in t before you know it. Tex and Arod hurt you guys more than anyone will admit, and they didn’t plan well for Jeter’s retirement.
Trading Betances makes sense if you get s mike trout or a super prospect package
Trout? You think the Angels want bullpen arms? They suck too. They have no farm system. You don’t have the farm system to go after Trout
He means a player like Mike Trout when he was a prospect. A can’t miss, future impact player.
You know how many “can’t miss” prospects miss. A lot.
What if the Rangers offered Gallo and Profar for Betances and Eovaldi?
Gallo and Profar for Betances?!?! That’s hilarious! Profar is 23, a future all-star at SS/2B, and just showed out at 1st base. He is out hitting Fielder and Moreland. Gallo is the ideal Beltre replacement. Neither are going anywhere for Betances, a pitcher who is throwing a 7.04 ERA over the last 7 appearances and at 3.41 this season. Eovaldi is 4+ERA. Neither one replaces anyone really on the Ranger’s roster save maybe a young bullpen pitcher.
I wouldn’t give up either one for both of the pitchers you are offering. Look at what the Rangers need. Mostly it is salary relief from Choo/Fielder and steadiness at Catcher (Rangers and Lucroy have been connected for a year and a half). They will likely add to their BP but that isn’t exactly a weakness of theirs.
John Daniels would tell them to try again.
HAHAHAHAHA. I hope you’re joking on the Betances for Trout. That is some funny sh**
Betances AND Miller for Schwarber
Now here is someone who dreams in technicolor
Hilarious. Throw in Sanchez….
Lol. I wouldn’t trade either for schwarber straight up. Schwarber has no position.
He would be your DH and catcher, genius. Or he’d just be your DH…. a crap spot in the lineup made solely for guys with no position……. just ask A-Rod.
The Cubs will be in the post season and have a good run at a WS. Beltran is a guy your gonna want come the big moments. I can’t really see a spot in the cubs outfield or at 1st, maybe if your gonna rest someone, but he will win you a game in a clutch situation come October. It might be worth a trade with Soler just to have him on the bench at the business end of the season.
You, Sir……are obviously a Yankee Fan.
No way in Hell that the Cubs trade Soler for 2 months of Beltran. That’s is more laughable that the guy above who thinks the Yanks would even consider trading ………”Betances AND Miller for Schwarber”………(and I can’t stand the Yankees, but know that would never happen….LOL…)
Chances to win a World Series don’t come along often, the Cubs will be going all in this year. If they trade away Soler it’s a sacrifice for the greater cause. Braun could be another option.
Why are they going all in this year? They’ll be returning largely the same team next year and many of their players are young and under control for multiple years. This isn’t some old team with a 1 year window.
In addition to that, adding someone like Beltran really does not move the needle much with regard to improving the teams chances to win.
Have the Cubs won a WS in your lifetime or your fathers or grandfathers lifetime? If you have your chance you take it now. The future is in the future and the Cubs have enough young talent to trade Soler and 2 top 100 prospects.
Holy sh**…… I found it. There is actual common sense in this thread. haha
Agreed. Comical
Schwarber is not for sale
While both suggestions are indeed laughable, Betances AND Miller for Schwarber is WAY more laughable.
I think the Betances and Miller for Schwarber was more of an insult to the guy who I think legitimately thinks Betances is enough to get Mike friggin Trout or “a super package of prospects.”
Yankee fans seem to completely have no idea what their players are worth. If Craig Kimbrel only nets the Padres a fringe top 100 prospect in Margot along with 3 middling to low end prospects, why on earth do you think Miller or Betances will get you more?
Are you sure about that? Doesn’t get much bidder than this:
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The Cubs will not trade for Yankee trash just to make Yankee life easier. They have absolutely no need for Beltran.
Maybe I’m crazy, but I really think something like Choo+Gallo+Profar for Miller+Eovaldi+Headley makes a lot of sense for both teams.
-Rangers get Miller and another capable starter and get to be free of Choo’s contract before 2021.
-Yankees take on a longer term salary albatross, but get two players who could be cornerstones for a new generation in the meantime.
Any thoughts?
I could see Fielder and Profar going but the yankees don’t have what the Rangers a looking for. It would take a Trout-type or Stanton-type player to get Gallo AND Profar from the Rangers. If they are going to retain one of Choo/Fielder, Choo has more upside right now. NYY needs someone to hit better than Texiera, and sadly even Fielder is doing that.
Theo didn’t want to trade Schwarber for Hammels last year, no way he’ll ever trade him for a guy who’ll pitch one inning every couple days.
How about a deal with the A’s for a package including Gray, Reddick, and maybe Doolittle? Reddick will leave for free agency after this season and can platoon in left with Soler or rotate to give guys days off. The center piece of the Cubs package could be around Schwarber ( perfect DH canidate) and some other prospects such as VogelBach, Johnson, Underwood, Edward’s, etc ( not all of them but some type of package) but not Contreras or Torres.
Gray is garabge, Reddick is useless for the Cubs. Doolittle is the only one they need and who I think they should go after……. not anything on the Yankees who will likely overprice their pitchers….. their fans sure are. IMO just trade for Doolittle for a package of prospects. I think giving them back McKinney, Vogelbach and one of our crappy pitching prospects (Pierce Johnson) would be enough to get Doolittle here.
Sonny Gray is a midget who’s following the Lincecum path of lack of durability due to mechanics and slight frame. Reddick….. the Cubs don’t need rental players. They definitely don’t need another OFer, even with Soler going down with an injury now. They’re calling up Almora to replace Soler. Other options would be to put Bryant out there every day and have Baez and La Stella platoon at 3B. So again, they don’t need a rental OFer or a rental player of any kind. Teams that get rental players are teams who only have one shot at a WS in the foreseeable future….. NOW. Cubs are built to contend for several years. They aren’t in a WIN NOW situation which causes teams to do stupid trades…… like the A’s did two years ago. Their only true need is just a left handed reliever….. which Doolittle fulfills.