In an appearance on Pittsburgh’s 93.7 The Fan, Pirates GM Neal Huntington admits that the winter swap of Neil Walker for Jon Niese was a mistake. “We felt that that was our best return, and it has not played out that way, and that’s a challenge,” Huntington said. “We own that. We accept that.” Reports have suggested that the Bucs are hoping to trade Niese. For the time being, he’s headed for bullpen duties, as Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review tweets. Though Huntington expressed hope that Niese can turn things around, he was unusually forthright in acknowledging the faulty trade (while also hinting at the team’s alternatives in shopping Walker). “In hindsight, maybe the two fringe prospects and trying to figure out where to reallocate the money might have been a better return,” he said.
- Niese’s former club, the Mets, surely didn’t envision a scenario where the lefty could hold appeal in 2016, but Marc Carig of Newsday writes that the club isn’t ruling out a reunion. New York is still prioritizing pen help, but seems increasingly open to the idea of bringing back a pitcher who had a good deal of success over his time with the club. The 29-year-old has been hit hard in Pittsburgh, but carried a 3.91 ERA in over 1,000 innings through eight years with the Mets.
- Braves closer Arodys Vizcaino left tonight’s action with what appeared to be an oblique issue. As MLB.com’s Mark Bowman tweets, the preliminary expectation is that he’ll require a DL stint. The injury comes at an inopportune time for Vizcaino’s trade chances, as he has already missed action of late and has struggled when he has been available. Over his last five appearances, Vizcaino has allowed five earned runs on eight hits and seven walks while recording only a pair of strikeouts. Once viewed as one of the best relief arms on the market, it seems increasingly likely that he’ll end up staying in Atlanta for the rest of the season.
- Cubs president of baseball operations Theo Epstein says the his club will be flexible in the build-up to the deadline, as Bruce Levine of CBS Chicago reports. “I don’t think its productive to pigeonhole yourself into thinking you have needs in just one specific role as the key to improving this club,” Epstein said. “There are so many variables. Things change. The way you look now may not be the way you look in mid-September. We are going to be open-minded to adding talented players knowing that could happen.” Epstein did discuss the idea of adding a starter, though Chicago’s rotation has been quite solid. “We are always looking to add long-term starting pitching,” he noted. “Sometimes the trading deadline can be a better forum for that than the offseason. Sometimes it is not. It is important to stay focused this time of year on this year’s club. You still want to keep one eye on opportunities that can help you down the road as well.”
- The Giants are seeing solid progress on some injured players, as Andrew Baggarly of the Mercury News reports. Outfielder Hunter Pence is set to begin a rehab assignment, where he’ll test his surgically-repaired hamstring. And second baseman Joe Panik has passed a concussion test, meaning he could soon be cleared to start his own brief rehab stint. Righties Cory Gearrin and Matt Cain are also nearing readiness; the former has extended his throwing distance while the latter reached 93 pitches in an outing tonight (though he was also touched for 10 runs).
- The division-rival Dodgers also got some injury news, though it’s not necessarily all positive. Outfielder Trayce Thompson has lower back pain that could land him on the DL. Fellow outfielder Andre Ethier is now looking like he’s more likely to make it back in mid-August, about two weeks later than had been targeted, though the team is still awaiting the results of a bone scan on his injured leg before it gets a clearer picture.
- While the Dodgers think they’ll utilize prized lefty Julio Urias at the major league level again later this year, manager Dave Roberts says he’ll work at the pen at Triple-A for the time being. (Via MLB Network Radio on Sirius XM; Twitter link.) Los Angeles has been understandably cautious with his workload, and seemingly hopes to keep him fresh while also tamping down the innings for the time being.
Cain is done….. We need to find a replacement
Cain isn’t done until the 2018 buyout. I don’t see the Giants just eating around $35 million to get rid of him right now. Besides, they only need him to be a #5 guy anyway. He probably won’t even be on the postseason roster.
What’s up with SF and ruining pitchers. First Zito, then Lincecum, and now Cain. It’s like they’re good for 4-6 years then fall completely off the table. Going from bona fide aces to fringe #5 starters. I’d be itching to get out of there ASAP if I was Bumgarner, Cueto, and Samardzija, hahahahaha.
You can’t blame it on their age either. Zito was only 29 when he moved to SF and pretty much went downhill from the get go after compiling 5 or so solid seasons in Oakland before the move. Lincecum was great for only 4 years. Then he turned 28 years old and imploded. Now, Cain who put up solid-excellent seasons from 2007-2012 has pretty much sucked since he turned 28 as well. Madison Bumgarner is 26 years old. If the trend continues he has 1 more good year left in him, hahahaha. If Bumgarner implodes in 2018 I am going to laugh my ass off. It would just about confirm something eerie is going on in San Francisco.
Yeah, World Series Championships every other year, how eerie. So I can’t tell if you’re serious and stupid or joking and not funny.
KB that’s the funniest thing I heard all year
I think it’s coincidence tbh. Zito was already on the decline before he went to SF. it was pretty evident. I mean his already slow fastball dropped like 4 mph when he first got to SF.
Vizcaino (on DL) and 3rd base coach Bo Porter
For
Moncada, Betts, Benintendi, Groome, and Kopech
I think Boston needs to throw in the Green Monster for Atlanta’s new ballpark as well. It’s the least they could do.
Bo Porter = GOAT
I hope the Cubs are entertaining the idea of acquiring Matt Moore from Tampa. His stock couldn’t be any lower than it is now and shouldn’t cost much in a trade. I think if they put him in the bullpen the last 2 months of the year that not only will he see the usual 2 mph bump in velocity converted starters usually see when they move to the pen, but I think he’ll be extremely effective as a reliever. To top it all off, he’s a lefty which is what they want/need in the pen. If Boston can acquire Pomeranz who has been excellent since leaving Colorado 2 or 3 years ago for just a pitching prospect in the lower levels of the minor leagues I can only imagine how little a struggling for the last few years Matt Moore would cost. I don’t think it would take much more than pitching prospect like Pierce Johnson to acquire Moore. If he fails, oh well. It’s not like losing Pierce Johnson is the end of the world. If he pans out in the pen, genius move. Then if they want they can try him out in the rotation next year if they decline Hammel’s option. Or pick up Hammel’s option and leave Moore in the pen and maybe…… hopefully….. they have a Wade Davis-like situation on their hands. A converted starter mowing batters down out of the pen. Worth a shot, especially with the cost being so low I’d think.
Other pitchers though they should be looking into other than the Yankee pitchers we all know and are well aware of:
LHP Mike Montgomery, Mariners. The Mariners are as far back out of the WC picture as the Yankees. If the Yankees are sellers I don’t see why the Mariners wouldn’t be as well.
Stats: 56.2 IP, 47 K, 16 BB, 2.06 ERA, 1.02 WHIP
LHP Brian Flynn, Royals. Again, if the Yankees are sellers being 5 or 5.5 games back in the WC race then the Royals have to be sellers too since they are also 5 games back.
Stats: 25.1 IP, 24 K, 8 BB, 2.49 ERA, 1.07 WHIP
LHP Fernando Abad, Twins
Stats: 28.2 IP, 26 K, 13 BB, 2.83 ERA, 1.26 WHIP
LHP Taylor Rogers, Twins
Stats: 27.2 IP, 29 K, 4 BB, 2.93 ERA, 1.30 WHIP
RHP Cam Bedrosian, Angels. Yes a right handed reliever. Not what they need but his numbers are nasty this year and worth considering despite the arm he uses to pitch with
Stats: 33 IP, 36 K, 11 BB, 1.09 ERA, 1.12 WHIP
RHP Ryan Dull, A’s
Stats: 46.1 IP, 48 K, 10 BB, 1.94 ERA, 0.73 WHIP.
RHP Nate Jones, White Sox…….. I doubt they trade anyone because Reinsdorf and Kenny are delusional and likely think they are still in the hunt. That and Reinsdorf rarely trades with his most hated team due to his jealousy and inferiority complex, but I feel I should list him anyways
Stats: 40.1 IP, 42 K, 8 BB, 2.45 ERA, 0.87 WHIP
(other White Sox relievers worth noting, LHP Dan Jennings and LHP Zach Duke….. nothing awe inspiring with their stats, they aren’t bad by any means, just nothing better than Travis Wood IMO…… only value to the Cubs is the arm they throw with to go with their “just” decent stats)
RHP Hector Neris, Phillies
47 IP, 57 K, 17 BB, 2.87 ERA, 1.13 WHIP
RHP Tyler Thornberg, Brewers
35 IP, 48 K, 12 BB, 2.57 ERA, 0.97 WHIP
LHP Will Smith, Brewers
17 IP, 15 K, 5 BB, 2.12 ERA, 0.88 WHIP
LHP Ryan Buchter, Padres
38 IP, 55 K, 21 BB, 2.61 ERA, 1.16 WHIP
(LHP Brad Hand is another option in SD for the Cubs. He has decent stats but his main quality as far as the Cubs are concerned is which arm he throws with)
RHP Alex Colome, Rays
32 IP, 39 K, 11 BB, 1.69 ERA, 1.09 WHIP
I tried to focus mainly on left handed relief, but included right handers who are just having too good of seasons to ignore completely. All of these pitchers are on teams I deem as sellers, or at least should-be-sellers.
Niese for an autographed Kelly Johnson baseball?
OK, how about a puck?
The Cubs need bullpen help and Miller is too expensive, Chapman as a rental piece or a lower tier guy who is controllable is my bet. Knowing Theo’s taste more than likely the lower tier guy with control. Right now isn’t the time to add starting pitching despite me hating hammel and not loving lackey’s style. I understand theo just giving an arbitrary answer that doesn’t surrender any potential leverage in a trade but might as well call a spade a spade, we aren’t trading for starting pitching barring a miraculous deal. I’m worried about these giants though man, they’re the best team in baseball and it already looks like getting those injured guys back at the right time is gonna start them on a hot streak in September-October. Just another even year.
There is NEVER “not” a good time to add SP. You can never have enough SP. And like I said, Moore wouldn’t be a starter, he’d be a reliever on this team. With Hammel having an option year next year he isn’t guaranteed to come back. If he does the Cubs trot out the exact same rotation next year and Moore can continue pitching in their pen. If my hunch comes true, Moore will be as effective in the pen as Wade Davis is in KC……. or at least very good in the pen…… Davis has set a pretty high bar. Then you always have the option to stretch Moore out and be a spot starter or take over if a guy in the rotation gets hurt. Again, you can NEVER have enough SP.
Agree with KB again. You can never have enough SP and if its a lefty to boot and he can also work in the pen. And he is not costing our top prospects or major league player and that pitcher is still controlable. Man its a no brainer.
What I love is the arguments of prospects and rankings. I do think Espinoza will be a great arm, but even those that argue Teheran is not that great, he was 3rd best prospect behind Trout and Harper. Ezpinoza will be a great arm I think and Teheran will only get better.
Do you really know this little about your team’s players? Go back and read the scouting reports of Teheran when he was ranked that high. I’ll give you a hint, it didn’t say “lucky babip, groundball, and homerun supression”.
The stuff he has now was very different (and worse) than what he had when he was that highly touted. LIke that upper 90s fastball he seemed to have lost. Since I assume you will try to make the failed argument that he just traded velocity for control, he wasn’t supposed to have to do that when he was ranked so high.
Seriously, come back to earth.
Well, dang. Viz was the Braves’ best (and most likely) in-season trade chip. I suppose he could go as a waiver-wire deal in August, or he may play out the season in Atlanta and be shopped this winter.
Nacho dip is the shit. Vizcaino and Cain are not