Here’s the latest on the Rangers’ progress this offseason, via ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick (all Twitter links).
- The Rangers have asked the White Sox about Jose Quintana, Crasnick writes. The Rangers likely won’t be significant bidders for Quintana, however, unless the White Sox’ price comes down. The two teams discussed Quintana at the trade deadline during the season, and the White Sox asked for Jurickson Profar plus “a lot more.” The Rangers thought that price was too high. There would, of course, be little reason for the White Sox not to ask for a lot in return for Quintana, who is controllable for the next four seasons. While it’s not surprising that the White Sox wanted more than Profar in exchange for Quintana, the basic framework of the deal makes sense — the Rangers reportedly targeted another controllable starter, Joe Ross, when the Nationals asked about Profar.
- The Rangers are still pursuing potential trades for starting pitchers, Crasnick writes. The Rangers’ rotation is strong at the top with Cole Hamels and Yu Darvish, and Martin Perez makes a decent third option. But they’re weak after that, with wild-card new signee Andrew Cashner topping a list of possible fourth and fifth starters.
- The Rangers also continue to linger on the periphery of Edwin Encarnacion’s market. Encarnacion’s agent said earlier today that several teams had made offers to Encarnacion of three or four years, although it’s unclear if the Rangers are one of those teams. GM Jon Daniels has said that it’s “highly unlikely” the Rangers will sign Encarnacion, despite a clear opening for a bat to play first base and/or DH.
I think the Rangers need to save their money so they can resign Lucroy and Darvish next offseason, and maybe trade for A controllable starter to fill the mid to bottom of the rotation further
Hard pass on the Rangers system unless they would include Mazara in a deal for Q. Three years of Profar does not do anything for a rebuild.
amen. the prospects traded for lucroy would have worked well in a Q package, but now they don’t really have anything that makes sense from a quality standpoint
Not really. We have 1 prospect in top 100. We have everything we had for cole, lucroy, and beltran
Again, I respectfully disagree
Then, please tell me What do u think we have other than mendez
Harder pass on Quintana if it means gutting what is left of the Rangers farm system. If they wouldn’t do it to get Sale…
I should have worded my original comment differently. Hard pass on the Rangers system. If Mazara is off the table, then they have nothing. Profar does nothing for the Sox and I don’t want Gallo.
I seriously do not understand the Profar love. He has been a replacement level player the past three seasons and is only under control for three more years
I would not be interested in him at all
Agreed 100%.
I agree completely. Why any of these rebuilding teams want Profar is beyond me. He will be a free agent before Quintana…
It’s because he is young and has a lot of upside
He didn’t even play two of the past three years, plus he is still pretty young and was a highly- regarded prospect.
No one is really disputing that. Just that it doesn’t make much sense for a rebuilding team not looking to compete for 3+ years from now. He would probably be a good option for the Dodgers at second since there is no room for him to get every day at bats in Texas.
That’s why you’re not a GM
The first year was rc year, and last 2 years he was out with shoulder injury. So I doubt he was replacement level. But he’s 22 years old, can play almost any position, and was #1 prospect what just 3 years ago. As a ranger fan I have way more love for profar than gallo
I believe they want Profar for the chance he lives up to past expectations, but he is the second piece behind Mazara, Odor and even Gallo
Not much demand for Joey Gallo. Take Ernest and Julio; they’re much more productive.
I’m not giving up on Gallo yet, he has not really had a chance to play regularly and how they used him last year was stupid.
His stock could be down for sure, but he is only 23 and if he can hit 40 HR consistently he will have a job for many years
He’s not gonna hit 30 a year. He’s gonna have like a .220 batting average. Mark Reynolds type player. Like Davis and Reggie but even lower batting average
I don’t want to give up on Gallo either, but the Rangers are adamant in that they’re not going to play him. That K rate took a turn for the worse last season, but this is potentially Chris Davis – 40 HR power with a 220 avg. For Gallo’s sake, I hope he gets traded somewhere like San Diego… where there’s an actual place for him to play.
LesterDNightfly–hello, Baton Rouge.
The Gallo line was great
“I wait all night for comments like these…..”
Thanks.
MLBTR is the new WJAZ. From the foot of Mt. Belzoni……
Gallo’s value is way down after awful performances at the mlb level
Power does not matter if you can’t make contact
I disagree, plenty of examples in league now
He can hit 250 and that is average in majors
He will always strikeout a lot but so do others
He might not be a fit for Banny ball is the issue
And he’s not gonna hit .250, more like .200-.220
He hasn’t hit 250 since double A. You really think he’s gonna be a 250 hitter against MLB pitching? I guess it’s possible if he stops striking out 40% of the time, but i wouldn’t bet on it.
the problem is a high k rate is one of the strongest correlations to poor MLB performance. 40% is insanely high. basically looking at a post achilles injury Ryan Howard type of slash.
Rangers are going to be waiting a long time if they expect Qs price to go down
I doubt the Rangers are waiting on the White Sox. They just kicked the tires and walked away.
I agree with this. You don’t know unless you ask
He’ll pitch in Chicago again in ’17.
Good thing they didn’t sign Bautista. That would’ve been awkward if Odor and his lockers were adjacent.
Awkward for Bautista maybe.
Odor would be telling him: go clean ma cleats.
Maybe clean cleats would help Odor have a respectable OBP and play a little defense.
Yes sir. Bring that avg up bout 15-20 points and not be worst 2nd base defender and he’d be a stud
Agree with RickyAdams. If he could get rid of his small man syndrome that would help too. Bautista slide was BUSH, but he barely touched the hobbit. Odor could be top 3 second baseman in the league with some leadership. Dude is good
Not sure how having clean cleats would help with taking walks…
His agent asked and was told thanks but no thanks
Lol
Oriole’s told him something.
You can tell from the way Pro plays he has special abilities. What about Odor in a package? Just speculating, we have to clear a spot either way
The last I heard the Sox wanted either Odor or Mazara, Profar and 2-3 more prospects
That’s steep, I’d be willing to say put a Odor and Gallo package with some throw ins but we can’t lose all that talent and for sure not both Odor and Pro
Rangers don’t have the prospects for Quintana. If Whitesox want Profar as centerpiece they need their head examined;…and the Rangers need 2 shrinks if they wouldn’t accept it.
Dear Rangers,
You can have Brandon McCarthy or Scott Kazmir for almost nothing–or, heck, let’s just say nothing–in return.
Sincerely,
Dodger Fan
Lol
We have plenty of those types around now at a cheaper price
Rangers have gutted their farm system with trades over the last 3-4 years. Look at the players they gave up with nothing to show for it. If they do trade for Quintana it’ll finish off what was already a depleated minor league system. If they do that, they’ll be living off free agency or end up in a rebuilding phase sooner rather than later IMO.
Nothing to show? IMO, we did overpay! But I wouldn’t call hamels, lucroy, diekman, Jeffress nothing. We’re behind astros and mariners in standings without hamels
Once again I agree RickyAdams. Those are 4 legit players that most teams would be happy inserting into their lineups. Texas is still the team to beat in the West. I think they are right there with Boston, Cleveland and Houston
Their farm system is not gutted…good grief!
How? Their top guys have huge question marks like Gallo and Profar. Their stock has both fallen tremendously. Beyond that, there’s not much at all
for guys like sale, Quintana, and archer top 100 prospects near major league ready r what r gonna be needed. We only have 1 top 100…yohander Mendez. And after him only 2-3 guys are triple a or above
I think the Rangers should go all in while they can, then rebuild.
I find it interesting that people are saying the Sox won’t get what they want for Q which is what we heard them say about Sale. Well, guess what? They got a haul for Sale and they will for Jose as well OR they just will hold onto him. No need to trade him just ’cause. Get all the value possible. I’m sorry but to trade him for whatever just because you won’t compete is stupid and I hope they don’t do that.
That’s the essential truth.
Quintana is very affordably signed, so there is no financial urgency to trade him. The market will come to the White Sox. My guess is that he’ll be in a different uni by the end of 2017, though he may not be traded until the deadline. The White Sox will do very well at that time.