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Red Sox Notes: Neshek, Devers, Sale

By Steve Adams | July 11, 2017 at 8:37pm CDT

The Red Sox have “keen interest” in Phillies righty Pat Neshek, reports WEEI.com’s Rob Bradford. The 36-year-old Neshek (who  has already tossed a scoreless inning in tonight’s All-Star Game) is widely expected to be traded, given his status as an impending free agent on baseball’s worst team. The sidearmer has worked to a pristine 1.27 ERA with 9.2 K/9, 1.3 BB/9 and a 36.5 percent ground-ball rate thus far in 2017. And, unlike in many previous seasons, Neshek has held left-handed opponents in check quite well. Right-handed opponents are hitting .234/.253/.286 against Neshek this season, while lefties are hitting .180/.231/.313. The Boston Globe’s Nick Cafardo reported that the Sox had scouted Neshek over the weekend as well, and he’s also been linked to the Nationals this summer.

More on the Red Sox…

  • A promotion to Triple-A Pawtucket could be just days away for third base prospect Rafael Devers, writes Alex Speier of the Boston Globe. The 20-year-old Devers has crushed Double-A pitching this season, hitting at a .300/.369/.575 clip with 18 homers, which led to a second appearance on a Futures Game roster in is career. While many expect the Sox to trade for help at the hot corner, Speier notes that Devers could emerge in the Majors later this summer and provide Boston with a boost at its greatest position of need. Manager John Farrell has said that Devers will play in Triple-A before jumping to the Majors, though one would imagine that a strong showing there would tempt the Red Sox to take a glimpse at their potential third baseman of the future.
  • Speier also spoke to Chris Sale, a number of his Red Sox teammates, and many other players throughout the American League about what, specifically, makes Sale such a dominant force on the mound. He also breaks down Sale’s unique delivery in terms of horizontal and vertical release point, noting that while a few other lefties have a similar release most are relievers (with the exception of Oakland lefty Sean Manaea), and none with that arm slot have Sale’s velocity. Speier breaks down each of Sale’s offerings using info from Brooks Baseball, Baseball Savant and other data sources, and the column even includes an animation to illustrate what it’s like to face Sale from the batter’s box. It’s an interesting look at one of the game’s great talents that is stuffed with quotes from his peers, coaches and others.
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  1. dodgerfan711

    8 years ago

    The phillies plan of trading nothing for Neshek and hoping he has a good season has worked perfectly. Philly should get a nice return for him

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    • astros_fan_84

      8 years ago

      Astros made a bad move.

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      • jrod7451

        8 years ago

        Not a bad move. We didn’t need him, he wasn’t happy here and we didn’t want to get stuck paying him his $7 million option.

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        • James2299

          8 years ago

          We?

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        • thekid9

          8 years ago

          Johnny Superscout

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        • willy

          8 years ago

          I can confirm that Neshek hated it in Houston/Texas. You’re correct.

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        • Regi Green

          8 years ago

          Fan bases are a part if a team.if you dont speak that way when speaking of whatever team you follow,good for you.

          Im a Philly sports fan,so when i talk of any of the teams,its easier to say we or us,than writing out the Phillies,the Flyers,the 76ers,or the Eagles.

          If you disagree,or dont like it,it doesnt change anything for me.you know what he meant,now do you actually have a point about what he said?

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        • jrod7451

          8 years ago

          Thank you. I feel like we’re not the only two people to say we when talking about our sports teams. That guys just a jackass lol

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        • jrod7451

          8 years ago

          He hated the role he had. He was speaking very fondly of the Astros during the All-Star break. There was an article on bleacher report where he talked about his experience here.

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        • Regi Green

          8 years ago

          That,and when people try to correct grammer.both drive me nuts.its the internet,not a test.if its worded out right to be understood,why nitpick.

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      • chandlere

        8 years ago

        Dumb response

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    • Cardinals17

      8 years ago

      Back to the Cardinals!

      Reply
  2. redsox for_life

    8 years ago

    No trade!! Keep Marrero l!!!Devers for september

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    • eaterofbirds

      8 years ago

      ugh….225 and falling.

      yeah, keep him, lol. Guys out of baseball in months

      Reply
      • natesp4

        8 years ago

        Not that this correction means much but it’s a little more like .225 and rising. He was at like .150 for a while and has hit not quite as atrociously as of late.

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  3. BSPORT

    8 years ago

    Devers

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    • empiresam

      8 years ago

      Never. Not worth a top prospect. Not to a team where he won’t close and will leave at the end of the year.

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    • WhiteSox4ever

      8 years ago

      Come on be real !

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    • bencole

      8 years ago

      lol I don’t think he was suggesting trading Devers for Neshek. No ones that dumb. I think he wants Devers called up, that has to be what he meant.

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      • empiresam

        8 years ago

        Braincramp on me. Thanks for clarifying. LOL.

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    • libbo

      8 years ago

      Not trading Devers, or Groome. Period. (Unless we’re talking about Moustakis which we’re not) but has anyone noticed the OTHER young 3basemen the Sox promoted from High A to Portland in June named Chavis? He’s basically been platooning with Devers for the last month since his call up with the two of them swapping between 3B and DH Haven’t checked his starts res t.y but he started out like a ball of fire with 3 HRs his first week up…. any of you fellas have some inside scoop on Chavis?

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      • willy

        8 years ago

        What would you like to know about Chavis?
        Perhaps this would help>
        (m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=bos)
        (soxprospects.com/)

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  4. jdgoat

    8 years ago

    The thing that makes Sale so hard is that his slider/fastball have the exact same arm slot, arm speed, and release point. You literally don’t know what you’re swinging at until it’s behind you.

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  5. koldjerky

    8 years ago

    Who says no Neshek, Franco for Devers and say a 10-15 guy?

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    • Mike M 2

      8 years ago

      Bahahahaha

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    • Brixton

      8 years ago

      The Red Sox do

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    • mnsports

      8 years ago

      Red Sox

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    • Bruin1012

      8 years ago

      Red Sox

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    • chesteraarthur

      8 years ago

      No one, because the red sox front office will have already hung up

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    • conaboya

      8 years ago

      I wish, but the sox would laugh.

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    • willi

      8 years ago

      Come on Man , The Double AA Player that nobody know will pan out against ML Pitching for a Starting 3rd Baseman with Power and an cannon for Arm and an All-star relief Pitchers , Boston has got to Empty farm system of top two Prospects and one major League Player of Starting Capability from the red Sox for these two Guys !

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      • Mike M 2

        8 years ago

        Not sure if serious.

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      • EndinStealth

        8 years ago

        Could you say that in English?

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    • willi

      8 years ago

      Every one in The Major League front Office would and So will the Phils !

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    • a1544

      8 years ago

      Phillies

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    • hawaiiphil

      8 years ago

      That deal is not based in reality but neshak and Franco for devers and fatty panda plus $10-15 million and it might work

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      • eaterofbirds

        8 years ago

        what are you smokin?

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      • rmullig2

        8 years ago

        Maybe if you took away the money and made it Neshak and Franco for Devers and Sandoval straight up.

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    • EndinStealth

      8 years ago

      If the Sox said yes to that I’d sell them 10 bridges.

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  6. Bruin1012

    8 years ago

    Red Sox are not trading Devers unless it’s in a blockbuster.

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  7. sports101

    8 years ago

    I expect the jays to try and make a deal if they can, this guy would fit in perfectly in their bullpen, if they’re buyers

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    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      Way bigger needs than a rental reliever. If they come out hot after the break I could see it, but they’re looking more and more like sellers.

      Reply
  8. willi

    8 years ago

    Devers is 20 years Old and already has weight problem , can you Panda Bear in Boston now !in five Years ,

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    • IRAwillsetthemfree

      8 years ago

      So did ortiz and he was terrible

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      • karmapuhlease

        8 years ago

        You’re right. All we gotta do is get devers on the juice and he can do it to

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    • Brixton

      8 years ago

      Franco is awful, and Devers is a top 20 overall prospect who’s raking in the minors

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      • Mike M 2

        8 years ago

        #5 on BP and #6 on BA mid season ranks

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      • Caseys Partner

        8 years ago

        “Franco is awful”

        How so? Franco is a few small things away from drawing MVP votes. Huge upside.

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        • Mike M 2

          8 years ago

          The ability to hit MLB pitching is not really a small thing. He’s below replacement level.

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        • Priggs89

          8 years ago

          Lol

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        • editzler13

          8 years ago

          I agree about the Franco not being awful part. He just needs more time, and luckily the phillies are the opposite of good, so he will get the time he needs. But I wouldn’t say he’s a few small things away from drawing MVP votes.
          Huge upside is correct.

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    • Bruin1012

      8 years ago

      Kung fu panda was pretty good first five years in San Francisco I think Boston wouldn’t mind that kind of production for the next five years

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    • willy

      8 years ago

      His weight is fine, for now, and even if it became a problem he could take over DH in 2 years.

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  9. shawnybig

    8 years ago

    The Sox wouldn’t trade Kung Fu Panda ( salary dump) and Devers for Stanton and Prado but they would for an old old reliever talented but near the end and a young third baseman with a cannon Who can’t bat his weight Devers is better than him today. . You are crazy to think that could happen DemBroski does trade away prospects but not for that type a package

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    • Mike M 2

      8 years ago

      This trade makes no sense. Where would Stanton play?

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      • PeterDipersio

        8 years ago

        DH to replace Ortiz’s bat!

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        • Hiro

          8 years ago

          What about Moreland and Rameriez? Where would they play?

          Reply
  10. rycm131

    8 years ago

    I wonder if the Twins would give up Buxton for a pitcher?

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    • chesteraarthur

      8 years ago

      depends on the pitcher, pobably

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    • start_wearing_purple

      8 years ago

      The price would be much higher than you’d want to pay. Buxton may not be putting up the numbers the Twins want but they won’t let him go without a serious return.

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    • takeyourbase

      8 years ago

      For a controllable starter that has top of rotation upside maybe. For Neshek….. no

      Reply
  11. cozens2017roy

    8 years ago

    Neshek and Howie Kendrick for either Chavis or Shawaryn, Nogosek, and Mata

    Reply
    • Bruin1012

      8 years ago

      Can Hendrick really play third if he can then that is possibility but I’m not sure he can play third on a consistent basis.

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      • Bruin1012

        8 years ago

        Mata might be the sticking point in that proposal may Cedroia instead.

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        8 years ago

        He can’t really on a consistent basis. He’s in between on hops, which is because he hasn’t really played the position all to often, and the arm doesn’t really play very well at third. He’s a good bounce around guy, but on a continual basis he’s kind of a liability.

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  12. mcase7187

    8 years ago

    I can see a trade of Owens or Johnson and a lower prospect or 2 for Neshek he is 37 and a rental so let’s be real and maybe a change in scenery will brake them out to the players they were supposed to be

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    • Connorsoxfan

      8 years ago

      Johnson has bounced back fairly well, no? I missed when he pitched and have been fairly busy so I haven’t checked in on him, but it was my understanding he was doing pretty well this year. I could see Owens for Neshek.

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      • SKbreesy

        8 years ago

        Owens will get nothing in return, his ship started to sail last year, and this year he’s been demoted to AA, he just isn’t a MLB pitcher.

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  13. bobbleheadguru

    8 years ago

    The answer is Justin Wilson and 25 year old Nicholas Castellanos, who DD hoarded for five years as a prospect, instead of getting a dominant reliever for him. If you only want one year, get Ian Kinsler as an alternate and move him to third.
    Do the Red Sox have a fair deal for the Tigers tough? Tigers would want 2 top prospects.

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    • willy

      8 years ago

      What are you talking about? Dombrowski didn’t hoard Castellanos and why would he trade him when the team was a contender up until the year Dave was fired??

      Reply
  14. cozens2017roy

    8 years ago

    True Kendrick likely isn’t viewed as a full time 3B so not a good fit. Sox should aim higher than him at the hot corner. As for Neshek return the Phillies have a bit of a logjam on the 40 man roster and have about 8 solid back of the rotation types. My guess is they aim for younger riskier lottery ticket arms in hopes of hitting on a frontline starter at this deadline.

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  15. Connorsoxfan

    8 years ago

    If they believe Devers can come up they should go after Jed Lowrie and one of the A’s relievers. Lowrie can play as a top reserve after and spell people, as well as insurance for Devers. He’s a perfect fit because he has one more year of control, so he’s neither a rental nor a long term asset that blocks Devers. And, if Devers plays well Lowrie can slot in at other positions while also still being there if he isn’t ready for the MLB yet. If they add a reliever they could just make one trade and kill two birds with one stone.

    Reply
  16. LMacK37

    8 years ago

    I would say that Pat should come to the Blue Jays and help out our bullpen but we’re doing soooo bad. He should go to the team that he deserves like the Nationals or the Dodgers

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