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Quick Hits: Phils, Tigers, Judge, Rockies, D-backs

By Connor Byrne | October 7, 2017 at 10:09pm CDT

Rockies bench coach Mike Redmond is drawing interest from two manager-needy teams, the Phillies and Tigers, Jon Heyman of FanRag reports. Redmond isn’t far removed from managing the Marlins, who went 155-207 on his watch from 2013-15. The former big league catcher played with the Marlins from 1998-2004, giving him familiarity with Tigers general manager Al Avila. The executive was in Miami’s front office for a portion of Redmond’s tenure as a player there.

More from around baseball:

  • With the Indians and Yankees facing off in the American League Division Series, Anthony Castrovince of MLB.com flashes back five years to a decision that has impacted both franchises. The Indians signed former Yankees outfielder Nick Swisher to a four-year, $56MM deal in December 2012, a move that didn’t pan out for Cleveland but did help lead to the Aaron Judge era in the Bronx. By letting Swisher walk in free agency, the Yankees earned a compensatory draft pick in 2013, the 32nd selection, with which they chose Judge. Unsurprisingly, Cleveland passed on Judge at No. 5 in the first round (the Indians grabbed a different now-Yankees outfielder in Clint Frazier, whom the Tribe traded in a 2016 deal for reliever Andrew Miller), though one member of the club’s scouting department was particularly enamored of the hulking slugger. “One of our scouts liked him over [No. 1 overall pick Mark] Appel, which is crazy to think about,” Indians president Chris Antonetti told Castrovince. “It’s not necessarily how we had him on our board, but one of our scouts felt strongly about it. There were some questions about his size, but he also did a lot of things really well, and he was renowned for having a great makeup.”
  • There haven’t been any contract discussions between the Rockies and outfielder Carlos Gonzalez since spring training, according to Mark Kiszla of the Denver Post. The Rockies offered CarGo an extension back then, but he turned it down and proceeded to endure the worst season of his career. The 31-year-old impending free agent batted an uncharacteristically poor .262/.339/.423 in 534 plate appearances, but he did fare much better after the All-Star break (.314/.390/.531 in 207 PAs).
  • The Diamondbacks won 93 games during the regular season and broke a five-year playoff drought, leading Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic to highlight some of the good work done by their past decision-makers. While first-year GM Mike Hazen is responsible for the J.D. Martinez, Ketel Marte, Daniel Descalso, Jeff Mathis, Taijuan Walker and Fernando Rodney acquisitions, among others, predecessors Josh Byrnes, Jerry Dipoto, Kevin Towers and Dave Stewart each have a hand in the current on-field product in Arizona – something Hazen realizes. “There are contributions all over the place,” he told Piecoro. “They should be proud of that, I think. We all know in the game things happen. Changes get made. For whatever reason, they get made. But it still doesn’t change the fact that there was good done, too.”
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  1. adshadbolt

    5 years ago

    Dam right dipoto had a hand in shaping the d’backs he traded them half their roster when he was with the angels and the mariners.

    Reply
  2. MooseBreathMints

    5 years ago

    This rumor has to be a joke. …ask yourself is Redmond a step up from Mackanin? No way!

    Reply
    • MooseBreathMints

      5 years ago

      ooops…I hit the up button by mistake.

      Reply
      • Brixton

        5 years ago

        his only tenure as an actual manager, he was handed an embarrassment of a team, so who knows

        Reply
        • JD396

          5 years ago

          Managing the Marlins is like a paramedic working at the county morgue. His job is so futile that it’s impossible to measure on the basis of results if he’s good at what he’s doing or not.

        • formerlyz

          5 years ago

          He’s a players manager. In game, he single handedly cost the Marlins between 15-24 (probably a bit exaggerated) games in 2014…obviously that season ended when Stanton got hit in the face, and then Ozuna sprained his ankle a couple of days later…so it probably didn’t matter. If you like Joe Maddon for whatever reason, then Mike Redmond is a great option. He is a really good dude, with wayyy less ego than most. He deserves a real shot. That team was a surprise that season. To be honest, I’d still take him over Mattingly

        • LaffitesLanding

          5 years ago

          No manager is worth 15-24 wins. If they were, they would be getting 60 Million a year.

    • Caseys Partner

      5 years ago

      It will be difficult to find a “step up” from Mackanin. He was an excellent manager.

      Reply
    • Brown Trout Fisherman

      5 years ago

      Agree trash.

      Reply
  3. rmullig2

    5 years ago

    Now Indian fans can be treated to endless stories about how they missed out on Aaron Judge. It wasn’t until Judge broke out that Yankee fans could stop having to hear the story about how the Yankees missed out on Mike Trout. Nobody has any idea what a player is going to turn into when he is drafted in baseball so these what-if’s are so tiresome.

    Reply
    • skip

      5 years ago

      So true!

      Reply
    • majorflaw

      5 years ago

      “Nobody has any idea what a player is going to turn into when he is drafted in baseball. . . ”

      That’s an odd belief. While scouting isn’t a an exact science team’s spend tens of millions of dollars every year trying to determine, or at least approximate, exactly that. If you are correct that there is no way of projecting what a player will become, teams would be better off making draft decisions by throwing a dart at a board and spending those tens of millions of dollars of scouting money on something more productive.

      Reply
      • Brandon Sans

        5 years ago

        Good scouting isn’t about just figuring out what kind of player they’ll be. You also talk to parents, friends, teachers, coaches, etc. about their makeup. What kind of student are they? How do they interact with people? What’s their work ethic? Important questions because it’s not just about how well you can play baseball, though a large portion of it is. Are they going to work? How do they react to negativity? are they a leader? You have to scout the player and the person.

        Reply
  4. redsoxu571

    5 years ago

    Let’s not celebrate that one scout who liked Judge so much. If Judge had hit the ground running in the minors (as, say, Mike Trout did), that would have validated what the scout saw. Judge was not “destined” to develop into this sort of player, and VERY clearly wasn’t there early in his pro career. He’s managed to develop into this, and it’s likely some coaches deserve some credit, but I wouldn’t say people were missing anything obvious

    In fact, I think there is a reason for Judge’s mysterious breakout. I tie it to the likely “juiced baseball” that has been the primary driver of this year’s HR explosion. I suspect that Judge entered spring training aiming to square the ball up better by “taking something off” of his swing. In the past, doing that would have meant too many fly ball outs, and the hitter would have to work to find a balance (and said balance wouldn’t be nearly so impressive). However, Judge realized with his natural leverage and the way the juiced ball flew that he could take off quite a bit from his swing and still have ample HR power…enabling him to square the ball up far more often than he otherwise would be able to. I credit him for realizing this, but it wouldn’t be happening at all without the ball being the way it is.

    Reply
    • joemoes

      5 years ago

      Another juiced ball conspiracist.

      Reply
      • Caseys Partner

        5 years ago

        “Another juiced ball conspiracist.”

        Has Rachel Maddow blamed the Russians for the juiced ball?

        Reply
        • stymeedone

          5 years ago

          It was Manfort and Flynn, on the Russian’s behalf.

        • Caseys Partner

          5 years ago

          “Manfort and Flynn”

          Manfort was in the Ukraine. Are baseballs manufactured in Ukraine?

          Flynn was by Trumps side throughout the campaign. Aren’t the balls manufactured in Haiti?

          You got a lot of pieces missing in your puzzle. Maybe Rachel should hire Alex Jones, he’s a lot better at this stuff.

      • davidcoonce74

        5 years ago

        There are numerous well-researched articles published on reputable baseball sites all over the web about the changes in the ball, using actual data and testing. It’s not some conspiracy. (I’d link to the articles in question but don’t know if that’s allowed here; google is your friend).

        Reply
        • miklosselkirk

          5 years ago

          I was JUST gonna say…

          http://lmgtfy.com/?q=2017+mlb+ball+change

    • sufferfortribe

      5 years ago

      So, when he hits a weak pop up to 2B, does that mean the juice in that baseball has gone past it’s expiration date?

      Reply
      • Polish Hammer

        5 years ago

        Wait, he hits weak pop ups to 2B? Must be a like a normal mans pop up to the catcher…

        Reply
    • tharrie0820

      5 years ago

      A juiced ball wouldn’t explain the OBP, which is a much better indication of success

      Reply
    • John Murray

      5 years ago

      There’s no juiced ball. It’s a simple
      Progression from pitchers being trained for two decades now that the radar gun is all that matters. Ultimately, hitters have evolved by working on timing. It’s become a homer friendly game, and it will continue to be until a few pitchers have success being actual pitchers again.

      Reply
      • JD396

        5 years ago

        Most pitchers don’t really “work in the zone” as we used to say. They use velocity to try to get hitters to time their fastball so they won’t have time to adjust to a breaking pitch outside or in the dirt, and conversely they’re basically teaching hitters to guess fastball. I’ve never seen so many hitters TAKE mid-80s hung breaking pitches because they’re that zeroed in on fastballs.

        The game is always changing. The pitchers were ahead of hitters for a few years, so far ahead that people wanted to plow over the mound to (literally) level the playing field. Hitters adjusted, and we’re seeing loads of HRs as they’ve started to figure out how pitchers were beating them.

        Reply
      • JDGoat

        5 years ago

        I disagree. This year the home run rate spiked drastically. The league set a record in homers. Both rookie home runs records were broken. Stanton almost hit 60. Even pitchers are getting more blisters this year than ever before which tells me that the ball has been altered

        Reply
        • Caseys Partner

          5 years ago

          Yes, but how did Putin and his henchmen alter the ball?

        • Death

          5 years ago

          By getting nitwits to blindly follow their cult leader

    • davidcoonce74

      5 years ago

      Judge is hitting the ball further than anyone, and it’s obviously not even really close. He’d have most of his homers regardless of the juiced ball. This isn’t Brian Dozier here, who is the king of the “just barely” home run. Crtainly the changes in the ball help, but Judge’s approach at the plate – patience coupled with a quick swing and massive strength – are going to produce a lot of home runs regardless of the ball.

      Reply
    • Polish Hammer

      5 years ago

      If even the Yankees thought he’d have been that good they would’ve grabbed him earlier and not waited until the compensatory picks. Maybe the chip on the shoulder for being picked behind 31 others as well as his tutelage in the minors shaped him more than had he been picked earlier and elsewhere. Judge has done better in the majors than he did in the minors.

      Reply
      • davidcoonce74

        5 years ago

        I think most teams stayed away from Judge because there has literally never been a hitter his size in baseball history. Sexson was probably the closest and he was a very different body type. Teams still have biases against very tall and very short players, and some of those are well-founded (you wouldn’t want a huge catcher or a tiny first baseman) but the success of Judge and Altuve may well help break some teams out of that box.

        Reply
        • lysander

          5 years ago

          Never? Ever hear of Frank Howard or Tony Clark? I could think of a couple more.

    • thecoffinnail

      5 years ago

      IMHO Judge got severe cases of the “yips” in the minors. So far his MLB career has mirrored what he did in the minors exactly. Whenever he was promoted to the next level of the minors (A to AA, and AA to AAA especially) he had a bad first year. The following year he would hit very well and would advance to the next level only to have the same scenario repeat itself. Not all players are gifted with the poise of Mike Trout. Fortunately for Yankee fans Judge has settled in nicely and will only get more comfortable in the majors the next couple of years. Hopefully, he will be able to work on the k’s.. With his size and massive strike zone he will probably always be a K machine though..

      Reply
      • Priggs89

        5 years ago

        That happens to the majority of minor leaguers that eventually make it to the bigs… Not many guys jump a bunch of levels and start raking everywhere they go.

        Reply
        • Polish Hammer

          5 years ago

          But he didn’t light it up anywhere like he has in the majors.

    • rocky7

      5 years ago

      Typical Red Sox fan post. Jealous?
      Is that why Mookie has suddenly found POWER also?

      Reply
    • JKB

      5 years ago

      Another know nothing Red Sox fan jealous and envious that the Yankees have Judge and Judge is a stud. Deal with it Red Sox Nation!

      Reply
    • larry48

      5 years ago

      I think Judge will fall as fast as he rose next year, Clevland showed how bad a hittier he is and he will go back to hitting 220 next year. He may hit a few homer against number 4 and 5 pitcher next year.

      Reply
  5. eddieguglielmo23

    5 years ago

    Redsoxu571: wait so Judge “takes a bit off of his swing” yet still hits 52 Home runs most of which 400+ foot bombs, and you wanna blame juiced balls for that….. interesting

    Reply
    • Caseys Partner

      5 years ago

      It’s Putin’s henchmen.

      They’re everywhere.

      Reply
    • thecoffinnail

      5 years ago

      Yeah, it’s all the juiced ball. That is why you see security quickly running into the stands and ripping every home run and foul ball away from fans. They can’t let it get out that they have a secret deal with JPL to install miniature jet engines into the balls used to pitch to Judge, Stanton, Trout and a few others.. It is a well known fact that a 6’8″ 280lb athlete couldn’t hit a baseball out of the infield without the ball being doctored somehow..

      Reply
  6. berteuthis

    5 years ago

    Anyone remember 1987, or read about it? Did dozens of players use PED’s, only to stop at once the following year; or was the ball juiced? A huge amount of players suddenly hit for pretty good power and established career highs.. This year, I’d the ball is juiced or PED testing isn’t working.

    Reply
    • berteuthis

      5 years ago

      Not that MLB wants to do anything about PED’s in the game if they don’t have to!
      If there are new drugs, undetectable by the current testing methods, I’m pretty sure that is perfectly fine with MLB.

      Reply
  7. RiverCatsFilms

    5 years ago

    The Judge story was a full article on the MLB AtBat App. I dunno if it’s publicity or something else is going on…

    Reply

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