Before the Giants’ pursuit of Giancarlo Stanton failed, they offered the Marlins a package including right-hander Tyler Beede and catcher Aramis Garcia, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports. Beede and Garcia, both 24 years old, rank among the Giants’ top 10 prospects at MLB.com and Baseball America. Along with surrendering those two, San Francisco would’ve absorbed $230MM of the $295MM owed to Stanton (the Yankees, who won the Stanton derby, will take on $265MM). That package was to the Marlins’ liking, but Stanton put the kibosh on a deal by declining to waive his no-trade clause for San Francisco.
More on the Giants and a few other National League clubs:
- The Cardinals have had talks with the agents for relievers Addison Reed and Brandon Morrow, according to Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. At one point this offseason, there was “momentum” toward a deal between Reed and the Cardinals, a source told Goold, but it seems this winter’s slow-to-develop relief market has helped prevent an agreement from coming to fruition. Whether he signs with the Cardinals or another team, the soon-to-be 29-year-old Reed is in position to end up as one of this winter’s richest relievers.
- A lack of financial wiggle room could prevent the Diamondbacks from doing anything significant in free agency, Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic writes. Arizona needs bullpen help, for instance, but several agents informed Piecoro that the club’s not showing much willingness to spend. The Diamondbacks “think they’re going to get by spending $5 million” total on bullpen upgrades, an agent for a second-tier reliever told Piecoro. In order to free up payroll space, the D-backs could deal left-hander Patrick Corbin and/or center fielder A.J. Pollock, Piecoro suggests. Both players are only under control for another year – MLBTR’s Matt Swartz projects an $8.3.MM arbitration award for Corbin and an $8.5MM salary for Pollock.
- The Giants will reportedly pursue the top free agent third baseman available, Mike Moustakas, but Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle casts doubt on the possibility (via Twitter). The club is wary of going after free agents who have rejected qualifying offers because of the compensation it would have to give up to land them, Schulman notes, and Moustakas is part of that class. Signing him would cost the Giants two draft picks (their second- and fifth-highest choices) in 2018 and $1MM in international bonus pool space.
- The Braves will hire Alex Tamin as their director of major league operations, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets. Tamin was previously the Dodgers’ director of baseball operations, serving in the same front office as new Braves general manager Alex Anthopoulos. While with Los Angeles, Tamin “handled rules and transactions” and was “heavily involved” in advance scouting, according to Rosenthal, who adds that he’ll perform similar tasks in Atlanta.
I believe the angels will get Moustakus , it’s a perfect fit for him. If they don’t get him then I think Nunez would be good.
Add in Castro as well
I see them passing on Moose and going after Machado next year.
Machado will cost more money then Moustakus plus they need another left handed bat, I think Machado ends up with the phillies.
As a Royals fan, I’ll miss moose but it would be cool to see him in the lineup with trout, pujols, and ohtani (spelling?)
No thanks!!!!!!!
People saying it’s collusion ignore the fact that the Marlins would have/did accept the Cards and Giants deals, Stanton just vetoed them.
Jeter secretly told Stanton to reject them? I don’t know…
@jd396
I agree you do not know much of anything since you are suggesting something so absurd
This is the dumbest comment ever. I’m 100% certain Jeter would have chosen for Stanton to choose St. Louis over any of them. The package he would have gotten back would have been much better than what SF or NY could give, and they were taking on more money. So, if Jeter was “colluding” with anyone, it wouldn’t be the Yankees.
The cardinals offer was hardly competitive. Seems to me like Stanton didn’t want to play for either team and Jeter used his existi n relationship to get a deal done when the one he wanted tell through (giants). Nobody wants to play in Missouri. That’s why no free agents have ever signed with the res birds.
Dodger fan much?
Technically, Matt Holliday was a free agent. Pretty decent free agent sign there?
You misinterpret the meaning of collusion.
It’s just a bunch of these moronic armchair GMs at it again
Dont see how in the Giants package the Marlins were content on eating 65 million. That conflicts with many reports out there
What reports did it conflict with. All reports had the Cardinals accepting more money back then the Giants and the Giants package was MUCH better in prospects which would require the Marlins to eat more of the cotract
“MUCH” better prospects LOL. Idiot.
The giants offer was much better. Nobody wants the cardinals cast offs.
You have zero credibility. Your comments are based on nothing more than hate for the cardinals. Either that or you are an idiot. Alcántara is immensely better than either of the Giant’s prospects. On top of that the cardinals were going to take on the entire contract. That easily made the cardinal’s offer immensely better than the giants. That said I bet if LA, Chicago, or Houston would have offered a similar package than NY offered Jeter would have waited the weekend to make the trade. Heck he would have probably told Cashman the exact offer so NY would have the best chance of slightly beating any other offer. Amazing how quickly Jeter accepted that deal without even waiting to see if any of the other three teams would make a better offer. As long as this entire saga played out there is no excuse for ending it so abruptly. The yankee offer wasn’t close to an overwhelming can’t pass this up kind of deal. That’s why people say there was collusion. Also, for your information Stanton never said he’ll no I will never go to St Louis. He actually said that he wasn’t willing to waive his ntc for them right now. Meaning he wanted to see if any of his preferred choices were going to make a move for him. Not to mention there have been reports saying that he wasn’t quite sold on the cards and wanted to see if they made other moves to really transform them into top contenders. Mo is an idiot because he could have made other moves weeks ago to show Stanton that they are determined to win and build a top team around him. Instead he sat on his hands waiting for Stanton to cave and say yes. So, you can’t take your ignorance and cardinal hate with you since that is all you have to spew out of your mouth. Come back when you actually have facts and can backup your words. Until then you just sound like an a$$hat.
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Lol
Good Answer.
^ It was reported that the cardinals proposed a trade centred around Alcantara, Hudson, and willing to send Grichuk while also absorbing the same if not more money than SF…
I hope this coming week brings the floodgates opening up!
If Bobby Evans signs Moustakas I’m renouncing my fandom until he is fired.
I don’t want them to sign Moustakas either, but ownership would also be to blame for not green lighting a rebuild.
I find it surprising people are so quick to dismiss Arroyo. The kid can hit. Yes, he struggled a bit in his MLB debut, but that hardly means he’s doomed.
Nunez preferable.
Yeah, that would be a kick in the teeth for a fan base that suffered through almost a hundred losses last year when hoping to contend. Not too enamored of Evans, myself.
The Giants need to trade for Longoria.
To much money for age 32-37 seasons and he’s league average hitter now. if they could get Kiermaier that would be huge. Never mind the rays are never giving up that cheap contract
Longoria is better than Sandoval.
Mikey Lowell, with 2 bad hips and out of the game for nearly 10 seasons is better than Sandoval.
86 million over the next 5 years for his age 32-36 seasons plus prospects for a position that isn’t the top priority. They could live with a panda/arroyo platoon and get a top cf. but I wouldn’t complain if they traded for Longoria. I just think he’s an average player going forward. If your going over the cap I rather just sign Frazier or Cosart for third. Neither one of those players will cost prospects, draft picks, or international money, and probably less tax hit for close to equal value going forward
This is the best comment I’ve read lol
STL
Man if that is true that is an absolutely underwhelming offer by the Giants. Marlins fan should be thanking Stanton for vetoing that trade. The Cardinals package is more realistic in terms of what you’d think they could get, but for a team in need of money off the top to pay short term interest payments the trade for the Yanks clearly just picked up everything that was needed.
What is underwhelming about it? The giants farm has always been underrated. Nobody on the giants club was heralded as the savior coming up through the minors. The giants are quietly the best player development team in the league. Your websites rankings are meaningless, and the prospects the giants offered are way better than the cardinals.
It doesn’t matter what the Giants and their fans think of their farm system (and most admit it’s pretty damn bad).
*The rest of the league* thinks their farm stinks and has very little in the way of desirable trade targets. You can’t sell if no one’s buying what you’ve got.
As Giants fan. I don’t think our farm is that good but somehow we find away to produce decent MLB level players. Matt Duffy played well for us. Pablo Sandoval played well enough to steal 90 Plus mill from Boston. Bumgarner and Posey were the only top prospects we had. Both are very good and valuable. Crawford and Panik both were not very high prospects. Belt was in the middl had hype but not overly hyped. Duvall was traded to the reds in the mike leake deal.
Overall it’s not horrible. It seems the Giants mostly draft players to trade. Tim Alderson drafted before Bumgarner traded to the pirates for Freddy Sanchez. Tommy Joseph traded for Hunter Pence. Susac and Phil bickford for Will Smith. Always trading prospects for peices. Might not be the best trades but it seems they view the draft more for trade ammunition than talent for big leagues. Chris Shaw looks like the next trade chip the Giants will probably unload in any deal.
The cards were picking up the entire contract. The yanks didn’t pick up the entire contract. Plus the yanks sent them a player getting paid 11 million a year where as the cards were going to send a stud prospect making league minimum. The Yankees offer wasn’t bad, but the cards offer was what the marlins really needed.
I hope Henry is right. I have always passed on Moustakas in Fantasy given his inconsistency. Losing those two draft picks plus international money is a huge penalty. The Jints should not sign any free agent who rejected a qualifying offer. Shouldn’t sign JD given his defense. Machado or Harper in 2019 when they have the money.
Moose would better off staying in KC. Why would he go to San Fran and play with a like team? They have no chance of winning anytime soon. Better for him going to the Angels if he just wants to be close to home.
DBacks should trade Corbin. He finished the season strong and they should be able to get at least a decent prospect or two in return. A team like the Orioles or Rangers should definitely be interested. DBacks would still have Greinke, Ray, Walker and Godley in the rotation with Banda and Clarke right behind them in AAA, not to mention Shelby Miller coming back from TJ surgery at some point. They can use the $8MM+ saved from Corbin to address the bullpen and/or add a corner outfielder to replace JD Martinez
I don’t see the Rangers trading for essentially a rental pitcher in Corbin. They aren’t on the cusp of winning anything so no need to make any short term deals. That is unless you’d take Profar as the return.
Plus they really need another right handed starter. Rotation is lefty heavy at the moment.
Good to see the Braves have someone qualified to oversee “rules and transactions”
Looks like the Cards and Sox are going to battle it out for power bats. I think the Cards have better major league ready talent for sale to make a trade. The Red Sox are going to have to over pay to get their bat in free agency.
More like the cards have no choice but to make trades because nobody willingly goes to missouri.
I can see the Cardinals signing Addison Reed soon it seems they already had momentum towards a deal and could have an edge on the other teams and could get it done quickly
I guess it’s too much to hope for, but why do people feel the need to make rude remarks and correct grammar on this site. It’s not relevant to any topic.
You’re right. This is a chat. I can’t stand retaliation comments to make some one’s comment look like an idiot. That’s their comment. It’s an opinion of their own teams needs. Right or wrong, it’s their own particular thought. Not their favorite teams administration’s thoughts.
Huge dback fan but I’d like to see them deal pollock
I’m guessing the dbacks aren’t spending much on relievers to save money for jd
As an Angels fan I think Pujols should be a DH for the rest of his loaded contract, and we should sign Eric Hosmer.
Giants would lose a significant opportunity to add quality prospects to their minor league system if they sign any FA who rejected a QO. Stay far away from those players and focus on trades to add MLB talent. While unsuccessful the Stanton and Ohtani pursuits were smart and it would be an unfortunate misstep if they lose sight of the huge penalties associated with signing any of those players. None will make enough difference in 2018 to justify…
Addison Reed and Morrow would be great pick ups for the Cardinals. However, Mozeliak still insist in signing other teams casts offs at high salaries instead of paying a little more and going first class. His reasoning just blows my mind!!!!