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Phillies Acquire Asdrubal Cabrera

By Jeff Todd | July 27, 2018 at 4:47pm CDT

The Phillies have officially agreed to acquire infielder Asdrubal Cabrera from the Mets, as first reported by Andy Martino of SNY.tv (Twitter link). Righty Franklyn Kilome is heading to New York in return, as Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic first reported (via Twitter).

It’ll certainly be interesting to see how the Phils decide to utilize Cabrera. The veteran has mostly played second base this year, grading quite poorly in the field, but that’s not likely where he’ll play in Philadelphia. It seems possible that Cabrera will slot in mostly at third base and shortstop. He played the latter position for much of his career and split his time between all three of those infield spots in 2017.

Having tried and failed to land Manny Machado, the Phillies seem to have settled on a strategy of mixing and matching on the left side of the infield. To this point, they have primarily utilized Maikel Franco and Scott Kingery, but the rehabbing J.P. Crawford will also ultimately factor in again as well. The current roster also includes infield reserves Jesmuel Valentin and Trevor Plouffe, though it wouldn’t be surprising to see one of those players moved off the active roster to make way for Cabrera.

Regardless of what patch of dirt Cabrera occupies, it is clear that the Phils will gladly put his bat in the lineup. Though Franco has turned it on of late, Kingery and Crawford have produced little offensively. As for Cabrera, he has been a solid offensive performer throughout his dozen seasons in the majors. But he has never been better than in New York. Since inking a two-year deal with an option (picked up last winter), Cabrera carries a .279/.339/.464 slash with 55 home runs.

The switch-hitting Cabrera destroyed opposing righties in 2018, posting a .285/.345/.535 slash. He hasn’t been as productive when facing southpaws this year, but had greater success against them in the prior campaign. For his career, Cabrera has very neutral splits, so there’s good reason to think he can succeed regardless of which side of the box he’s in.

For the Mets, there was no reason not to cash in the last two months of control over Cabrera, who’s earning a manageable $8.25MM salary this year. The New York organization is well out of the postseason hunt and had already begun moving expiring contracts for the second-straight summer.

In exchange for Cabrera, the Mets will add an intriguing hurler who still needs to iron some things out to make an impact in the big leagues. Kilome’s raw arsenal is impressive, led by an upper-nineties heater, and he’s said to be regarded as a hard worker. Even while ranking Kilome the tenth-best prospect in the Phillies system, though, MLB.com noted that “his command has been inconsistent.”

Thus far in 2018, the 23-year-old owns a 4.24 ERA with 7.3 K/9 and 4.5 BB/9 over 102 Double-A innings. Perhaps he’s not far from being ready for an opportunity in a major-league pen, but it seems doubtful he’ll receive a shot in the rotation until he has completed some further development. Kilome is already on the 40-man roster, which will increase the pressures to make him of use at the MLB level.

Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

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  1. Dylan

    3 years ago

    Good pickup for the Phils down the stretch. Bad for the Brewers though. I thought they’d push hard for both Cabrera or Escobar…

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    • bravesandcrewfan

      3 years ago

      Both my teams are mostly sitting on their gabds and it hurts a ton. Don’t sell the farm but some cheap rentals like these could go a long way.

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      • yogineely

        3 years ago

        Uhhh, both? You only get one dude

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        • TJECK109

          3 years ago

          That depends really. Some teams only qualify as half. Or as AAAA teams more than pro teams.

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      • pleepleus18

        3 years ago

        This is what you get when you’re in love with your farm system. Sit on it and watch other deadline deals go down.

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    • ray_derek

      3 years ago

      Milwaukee doesn’t want to have to give anyone up

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      • bigjonliljon

        3 years ago

        Very true. GM likes to publicly posture like he’s going to do deals only to keep fan base happy. But in reality… he doesn’t want to move his prospects which he overly loves. Lol. Go cubs

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        • Yekatman

          3 years ago

          “Doesn’t want to move his prospects??”

          Were you both comatose when they gave up Brinson and three other prospects for Yelich??

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        • pleepleus18

          3 years ago

          Nice to remember that ONE time they actually did give up a prospect. Otherwise, their rep year after year is to talk a good game but defer when it comes to hard decisions. Brewers are content to “try” but don’t have the cajones to go all out.

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        • Lahkini

          3 years ago

          This is a troll statement. Sabathia, Grienke, Yelich. They deal top prospects every year they have good teams going. There are loads of teams that deal far less often than the Crew. Usually people rip them for dealing too much away during playoff years…..I haven’t seen the opinion of them not dealing enough yet…until now

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        • dugmet

          3 years ago

          picked up Moustakis.

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    • IronBallsMcGinty

      3 years ago

      Probably want Dozier

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    • oldleftylong

      3 years ago

      Brewers may need Iglesias from the D. He is an incredible fielder and is having a great season with the bat.

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    • thelastonetodie

      3 years ago

      Solarte to the brewers

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    • justreading

      3 years ago

      nice of reyes to stay with the mets
      and help them out !

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  2. Brixton

    3 years ago

    But why

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  3. philsphan1979

    3 years ago

    OMG klentek your a Gdam fool..really Kilome for Cabrera wow

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    • AndyMeyer

      3 years ago

      He’s their 10th ranked prospect in a farm that’s loaded with pitching

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    • bpflyers1

      3 years ago

      Are you kidding? Look at his stats from MiLB! Great deal for the Phils!!!

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    • fighterflea

      3 years ago

      For Met fans, watch to see if Kilome learns a repeatable delivery. He’s got the arm; lacks the mechanics.

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    • MiddleIn

      3 years ago

      Stop

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    • Bob

      3 years ago

      hes a reliever all the way now.

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    • Z-A

      3 years ago

      Bet you were upset when they traded Draybek for Halladay too.

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  4. Thronson5

    3 years ago

    Solid move for the Phillies.

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  5. Phillies2017

    3 years ago

    Cant say that im too thrilled to lose Kilome to the Mets.

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    • ryanjones

      3 years ago

      I wonder if they were gonna have trouble keeping him on the 40 man next year?

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      • cysoxsale

        3 years ago

        ha. hahahahaha. he sucks. 4.5 walks per 9 against batters who dont, as a whole, walk much. NEXT

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  6. ba2929

    3 years ago

    The Moustakas market is drying up quick. Dayton Moore better get on the phone.

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    • GareBear

      3 years ago

      Brewers and Braves could both use him, I wouldn’t panic yet but Moore had not been great with prospect returns lately any way. So fingers crossed we do as good as the Mets on this deal

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      • pdubs2907

        3 years ago

        Brewers have no use for Moustakas.

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      • rols1026

        3 years ago

        And where would the Brewers play Shaw?

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        • HailRodgers12

          3 years ago

          Shaw supposedly would move to 2b. Yeah, I don’t know if that’s a good idea either. I’ve read he has been logging some time there during infield practice lately, so it depends if the brass thinks he can do it or not.

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        • murphy

          3 years ago

          moose isn’t worth anything.

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      • GreenCustom24

        3 years ago

        The Braves have no use for him either.

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        • elmore80

          3 years ago

          Wheeler. Matz and Flores for Inciarte, Gohara and Allard. Flores platoons at 3B with Camargo, Julio to long man in BP. Bring up young guys for bullpen.

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      • TLB2001

        3 years ago

        Please tell me which trades Dayton Moore lost? Maybe two players he’s traded away in his tenure that I wish we had back, and I can’t think of a single trade where he was fleeced. He’s not without flaws, I’m painfully aware of them, but he’s pretty solid with the trades he actually does.

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        • padam

          3 years ago

          I remind him every day.

          – Alex Gordon

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    • Dark_Knight

      3 years ago

      Don’t know the Phillies were really that into it. Franco’s been better this year.

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  7. Hantoneenee

    3 years ago

    Sorry to post this again but

    Question: Why are mets fans on board with this front office trading any cotrollable players? We have no GM!!!. After the Familia trade and getting a questionable return, why would ANY met fan be comfortable with what they get in return for Wheeler or any player on their roster who is not a free agent this winter.

    I get it people want a rebuild, but can’t you do the same in the offseason once a GM has been picked?

    Just looking someone to possibly make me see another side to this.

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    • iplay_in_traffic

      3 years ago

      Actually, don’t they have like 3 GMs? Not that that is a good thing either…

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    • HalosHeavenJJ

      3 years ago

      Good points. Does seem like they are starting a rebuilding plan without an architect.

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      • Hantoneenee

        3 years ago

        Thanks, nice way to put it.

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      • mikeyank55

        3 years ago

        Architect? The developer (mutt and Jeff-aka cheap Wilpon’s-renamed Abbott and Costello) are bankrupt.

        They are financially, intellectually. Intuitively and emotionally bankrupt.

        Join the Mets boycott:

        No more Mets ticket purchases.
        Click AWAY from SNY.
        Post on mets social media:
        Mets BOYCOTT

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    • juicemane

      3 years ago

      Dude the Mets will finish with a worst record than the Padres for the second straight season. We are rebuilding. You guys were going for it.

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      • Hantoneenee

        3 years ago

        You didn’t answer the question tho.

        This was not about Cabrera, This is about a team with no GM and a front office which may not be here next year, being allowed to move controllable pieces.
        To me that makes zero sense. Listen if Ricco, JP or Minaya is ownerships pick then they should just name that person the GM. My understanding is that’s not a sure thing. Then why allow these men to make any trades that the next GM may not even approve of. It just doesn’t make sense to me…Just sayin’

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        • ou812jay8

          3 years ago

          Any GM would be selling these pieces now. Familia and Cabrera are both free agents after the season. The only time you would have an issue with a “lameduck” GM making moves is if they were just trying to save their job and were trading away the future for the present. Minaya, for all of his faults, knows young talent, and I’m sure based on everything I’ve read about the three, he’s the one probably picking who he wants back in a trade.

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        • Hantoneenee

          3 years ago

          Free agents to be, I understand that. I’m talking about a controllable player like Wheeler, Degrom, Thor etc…even Wilmer Flores. That is what I don’t understand. That is what doesn’t make sense to me. And by the way…. aren’t at least two of these guys trying to get the GM job. Can’t this also be considered a lameduck situation. I understand why sports writers and people in the business like sportscasters and analysts want this. I just can’t understand why any Met fan would want this.

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        • qazer

          3 years ago

          Why are you asking people here to explain what Mets fans think? 29/30 of us are not Met fans. There are a zillon Mets boards.

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        • Hantoneenee

          3 years ago

          So why are you responding. IT clearly says mets fans.
          Then just don’t respond.

          Would you feel better if I asked why are you so miserable?

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        • fundaysunday

          3 years ago

          Cabrera nor Familia are controllable pieces. They needed to go now to get anything in return. Could’ve certainly gotten much more than they did for Familia. Not the three headed GM’s fault. Mets ownership is the biggest joke in professional sports.

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        • mikeyank55

          3 years ago

          Does that really matter? Will anything ever change as long as Abbott and Costello own the Mets?

          You are either in denial or need your meds changed. Reality: the only choice you have is bending over and taking it by supporting them thru tickets and viewership to SNY, or finally grabbing control and joining the Mets boycott.

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    • MetsYankeesRedSox

      3 years ago

      Mets fan since ’65
      This is the Mets way!
      Once they totally implode maybe something good will arrive from it. Agreed about the lack of real GM. This multi GM tagteam reminds me of when the Cubs used 3 coaches as the managerial team. Maybe the fan issued play placards will make a comeback.
      I’m sure that within 4 or 5 years we will be back thinking and saying “You gotta believe”

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      • mikeyank55

        3 years ago

        Stop playing the fringes and hanging on to a false hope. You are only fooling yourself. Join the boycott

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    • El Duderino

      3 years ago

      Your points will be more valid when the Mets actually trade a controllable player. So far they’ve only traded rentals – which is all upside when your year is already over as far as contention goes.

      While I agree that the trade of Familia feels a bit light, Kilome was a top 100 prospect going into the year and they got him from a division rival. If the Mets have faith in their minor league coaching, they might feel they can figure out how to get Kilome and his high 90s fastball back on track. I think this is a great pickup for the Mets on an expiring contract – 3 GMs or not.

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      • Hantoneenee

        3 years ago

        Fair enough, but that is the main concern. That they will move a controllable player. I totally get them moving free agents to be. They did the same thing last year. The jury is still out on what they got last year with these type of moves. Haven’t heard anything great about them. That’s why the lack of faith on my part..

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        • El Duderino

          3 years ago

          I think a lot of the distress comes from would you rather have quantity or quality (as in high ceiling).

          I definitely see your point and understand your concern – nobody would want to lose an ace like deGrom unless things look completely bleak. You should hold faith that all reports say that the Mets are extremely unlikely to move anyone without an expiring contract until at least the offseason, though.

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      • jwr0223

        3 years ago

        “Faith in their minor league coaching”? This is an organization that doesn’t teach even the most basic of fundamentals.

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      • padam

        3 years ago

        Has Kilome had TJS? If not, it’s a requirement in order for him to pitch in the majors for the Mets. Give it time.

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      • mikeyank55

        3 years ago

        Hey Dude-look at yourself in the mirror as you recite your post. Bet you can’t keep a straight face ;)

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  8. scottstots

    3 years ago

    What are the Brewers doing they didn’t get Escobar and now they lost out on Cabrera. we need a middle infielder so bad!

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    • HailRodgers12

      3 years ago

      I could be wrong here, but a recent rumor post showed that Cabrera is like, not very good defensively. Maybe Stearns is hoping to sacrifice a little offense for better defense at 2b. Dozier seems to heat up after the break, so if he’s the target, perhaps they catch lightning in a bottle and upgrade on D and O.

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      • scottstots

        3 years ago

        Could be… I’m just frustrated cuz right now the offense and defense at second for the Brewers is awful.

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      • padam

        3 years ago

        “…rumor post showed that Cabrera is like, not very good…”

        Were you born between the years of 1980-1995?

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        • HailRodgers12

          3 years ago

          No.
          Just trying to avoid silly arguments by calling him brutal, a butcher, or something along those lines. Now get off my lawn!

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    • pdubs2907

      3 years ago

      Yes, Cabrera is a butcher at 2nd.

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      • Hantoneenee

        3 years ago

        A butcher, no I don’t think so. A very huge lack of range, absolutely.

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        • mikeyst13

          3 years ago

          -18 DRS in 90 games is pretty brutal.

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        • Hantoneenee

          3 years ago

          pdubs2907 didn’t say brutal, they said butcher. Which to me implied bad with the hands. Again the range is a whole different story.

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        • pdubs2907

          3 years ago

          -18 DRS is a butcher. You’re splitting hairs.

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        • mikeyank55

          3 years ago

          Better than Reyes?
          Without a doubt.
          What do mets fans have to look forward to?
          Reyes.

          Lol

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        • Hantoneenee

          3 years ago

          I can see someone looking at that number but,not looking at the plays and coming to that assumption. Seems to me like you’re hell bent on misusing the term butcher. So go ahead sunshine….

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  9. etreuden

    3 years ago

    The Brewers MUST acquire Dozier now.

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    • scottstots

      3 years ago

      right unless we are willing to part with Hiura for Merrifield… which I’m not and I hope the Brewers aren’t.

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      • etreuden

        3 years ago

        @scottstots KC’s GM already said he has no plans for trading Merrifield because the team and the city need him in their future. So Dozier it is haha

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        • scottstots

          3 years ago

          Oh I had no idea… someone should tell MLB.com that because they just wrote a piece suggesting that the Royals may trade Duffy and Merrifield to the Brewers lol. I love when fans are more informed than actual writers.

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        • thesheriffisnear

          3 years ago

          Just because a writer suggests something doesn’t mean it’s actually something that’s being discussed by the teams’ execs

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        • padam

          3 years ago

          Translation means he wants their top prospect.

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        • padam

          3 years ago

          But the fan is right. He’s just quoting what the GM said.

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        • dugmet

          3 years ago

          truth

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    • sigmanj

      3 years ago

      Yes etreuden

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    • pleepleus18

      3 years ago

      Yeah, priority for Brewers is now adding a solid .220 hitter! The gun-shy Crew continues to confound. They want quality but refuse to deal from a thin farm.

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      • HailRodgers12

        3 years ago

        Or they refuse to empty the tank for a rental in a season which it’s unlikely they’d get past the first round, IF they manage to win the wildcats game, should it be necessary.
        I’m sure if the Mets agreed to give up deGrom, Stearns would surely do what he had to to make that deal happen.

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        • pleepleus18

          3 years ago

          Other teams are making moves like the Cubs and it surely doesn’t seem like they’re emptying the tank for rentals.

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    • ray_derek

      3 years ago

      Except they won’t give anyone up

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      • pdubs2907

        3 years ago

        You say that on every post as if “going for it” when they’re not even a real contender yet is a wise thing for a small market team. You don’t go for it until you’re actually a contender.

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    • pleepleus18

      3 years ago

      Do they really need another .228 hitter??

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  10. thesheriffisnear

    3 years ago

    I’d guess Dozier to Brewers in the next trade

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  11. JJB

    3 years ago

    WOW… only one low-level pitcher? The Twins got THREE lottery tickets from the Diamondbacks. Another “fail” on the part of the Mets when they could have traded him to Arizona before the Twins swooped in.

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    • justin-turner overdrive

      3 years ago

      A top 70 MLB prospect is actually an overpay by the Phillies. Mets did a good deal here.

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      • AndyMeyer

        3 years ago

        How is that an overpay? He’s nowhere near the top 100. He’s their 10th ranked prospect in a deep farm loaded with pitching

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        • justin-turner overdrive

          3 years ago

          He was ranked 68 on the Baseball Prospectus 2018 list, but I’m sure you are a far greater baseball mind than anyone who works there :)

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        • AndyMeyer

          3 years ago

          And is he ranked there currently??

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        • Bob

          3 years ago

          Keith Law said he Kilome was the 6th or 7th best pitching prospect in the Phillies system at this point literally in his chat 10 days ago. That list was preseason and honestly that slotting of him is an outlier. The Phillies system has had multiple breakout prospects this season.

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        • baseballnerddom

          3 years ago

          Mlb.com updated their list yesterday and he’s #10 right now. That’s what he is referring to.

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    • ian

      3 years ago

      He’s a top 100 prospect. Better quality than the Twins quantity.

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      • T_Rexx2

        3 years ago

        Where was he ranked on the recent prospect rankings? Not top 100….

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        • darkstar61

          3 years ago

          Baseball Prospectus
          Pre-2016 #95
          Pre-2017 #74
          Pre-2018 #68

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        • T_Rexx2

          3 years ago

          His stock has dropped this year, he’s not a top 100 anymore.

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        • darkstar61

          3 years ago

          Yep, Fangraphs has him “falling” all the way to 129 in their June update – clearly he’s a nobody now

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        • justin-turner overdrive

          3 years ago

          Why are people hating on Kilome? He’s sick. His stock didn’t drop, the Phillies just had a bunch of really high draft picks hit the midyear MLB.com board. So is this a homer Phillies fans “my team will NEVER overpay or do anything wrong ever” thing or is this a Mets “nothing our front office ever does will ever be good” thing?

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        • AndyMeyer

          3 years ago

          He’s sick?
          Current numbers. 4-6 with a 4.24 ERA. His strikeout to walk ratio is not very good. 82K to 53 walks and 1.44 whip
          He’s their 10th ranked prospect in a loaded farm full of pitching

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        • darkstar61

          3 years ago

          You seem beyond desperate to talk yourself into believing your club did not just trade a very well regarded and an extreme upside, top-tier potential starter away for merely a couple months of a good hitting but horrific fielding 3B(/wannabe 2B) who your club seems likely to try and play at a position he has no business being at.

          That’s fine and dandy if that is what you need to tell yourself to help you sleep at night, but I’m not sure why you expect anyone else to comfort you with some kind of agreement when the fact is this is a really big cost, with potential to be a massive cost for what was received

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        • AndyMeyer

          3 years ago

          You mean the position he’s played most of his career? A guys who’s hitting .277 with 18 home runs and 58 rbi on a joke of team?
          And they get that for their 10th ranked prospect? Doesn’t seem like a big or massive cost to me
          And just where is Kilome so well regarded? And by whom?
          You?

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        • darkstar61

          3 years ago

          Since you seem to be new to following the game of baseball, let me fill you in on a couple quick things you obviously don’t understand

          1 – minor league pitching stats are not always that important. As pitchers “develop” they will often use mostly 2nd, 3rd or even 4th pitches they are currently developing or refining in starts. They are not concerned with overall results today as they are much more concerned with becoming better pitchers for the future.

          2 – just because you once played a position does not mean you will forever play that position; especially well.

          And finally I’ll say that it really seems as if you have zero idea who Franklyn even is and are merely lashing out desperately at this point. That leads me feeling no need to bother giving scouting reports, as you appear much less interested in facts and much, much more interested in merely protecting your emotions.

          Instead I’ll just say this; things go well for his continued development (which the Mets happen to have a perfect guy to direct such development) and you’ll be hearing his name a ton in future seasons

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        • majorflaw

          3 years ago

          “ . . . things go well for his continued development . . . and you’ll be hearing his name a ton in future seasons”

          What in the world did folks expect to get in return for two months of Astrubel Cabrera? If there’s just a ten percent chance Kilome becomes a serviceable ML player for the Mets—in any capacity, from starter to closer to long relief—this was a very good deal. It’s one thing to kill Mets management when they do something dumb but it appears that some are incapable of fairly evaluating any move they make.

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        • AndyMeyer

          3 years ago

          Tell that to almost every pitcher who has had the “tremendous upside” as you pointed out that turned out to be absolutely nothing
          And if you think minor league stats aren’t always that important, then you clearly should talk to scouts and analytical people who do that sort of thing for a living

          Hey I’ve got nothing against Kilome and I wish the kid all the best
          But to trash the Phillies for adding an asset to a contending ball club by giving up a 1 piece in a very deep farm system is a little brash

          I’m sure I’ll be hearing his name in the future seasons. Maybe a nice little arm to have. I’ll also be watching the Mets not make the playoffs in future seasons as well :-D

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        • AndyMeyer

          3 years ago

          Time for them to move deGrom now

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    • srechter

      3 years ago

      Actually I’m majorly surprised to see that the Mets netted a top-100 prospect in this deal. Yeah, he looks to have regressed this year, but when you consider that trades for other rentals like Britton, Happ, familia, and so on didn’t include any consensus top-prospects, this is really a solid deal. I didn’t think Asdrubal had all that much value at all considering his ineptitude in the field.

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      • koldjerky

        3 years ago

        He’s not a consensus top 100 though

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        • darkstar61

          3 years ago

          Even if on the 100 bubble for a couple lists, would you expect that as the return?

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        • jorge78

          3 years ago

          And his stats look bad in AA. Too many walks?

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        • darkstar61

          3 years ago

          Mets recently hired a manager who knows a thing or two about getting the most out of pitchers. Have to imagine he and his philosophy have an idea how to correct whatever is wrong in Franklyn’s game currently.

          Combine that with the fact that his upside is tremendous

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        • srechter

          3 years ago

          Darkstar, yeah that’s more or less my point. Thank you.

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    • ou812jay8

      3 years ago

      Not all farm systems are equal. Philly has a much deeper system than Arizona. Being the #11 and #19 propsects in Arizona’s system may not even crack the Top 30 in Philly’s.

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  12. Raymond Kirk

    3 years ago

    Solid pickup for the Phillies, sad to say as a Nats fan. Was a matter of time before Philly or Atlanta made a move to add. Hoping it doesnt leave Rizzo feeling he needs to make a rash move in the next couple of days.

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  13. Grand Salami

    3 years ago

    At this rate the Brewers will be forced to pay a kings ransom to bring Gennett back to town. That would be poetic justice from Scooter’s perspective.

    Phillies just started their window and are already unloading top 100 proespects for rentals. Won’t end well.

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    • pdubs2907

      3 years ago

      Gennett isn’t getting moved.

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    • Dark_Knight

      3 years ago

      He was probably going to fall out of top 100 lists. It is what it is. An overlay but they just upgraded the worst offenseive position on the field.

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      • lilpartialbaldo

        3 years ago

        I really don’t see this as an overlay. Not exactly covering the surface of an object with a coating.

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  14. dp7

    3 years ago

    This guy is a top 10 prospect for the Phillies but has control issues… WHIP near 1.5

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  15. koldjerky

    3 years ago

    Don’t hate this as i was losing a little faith in Kilome. Would’ve liked to have Wheeler come back too though like I said in another post.

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  16. dkramer

    3 years ago

    From Manny to Asdrubal. Ouch.

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  17. redrooster

    3 years ago

    4 intra-division trades in the past week if I counted correctly. Very interesting

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    • bruinsfan94

      3 years ago

      Lots this month so far. Pierce, Evoldi,JA Happ, Britten, this trade,

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      • JDGoat

        3 years ago

        Sorry man but you managed to butcher 3 out of 4 names and for some reason that made me lol

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  18. koldjerky

    3 years ago

    Kilome was a top 100 preseason prospect but fell off pretty bad. He was a top 5 Phillies prospect and now is 10th. I don’t love giving him up but let’s not say they gave up a current top 100 prospect.

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  19. kabphillie

    3 years ago

    I don’t know about Kilome’s peripherals, but a quick look at his stats this year don’t show a tremendous talent. His WHIP has been north of 1.3 for several years, and his K/BB ratio is down this year.

    I don’t think this was a huge lose for the Phillies, who have obviously shifted into win=now mode.

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  20. Adam6710

    3 years ago

    Hey, where’s that guy who insisted to me that “teams don’t trade within their division” and said “it’s a rule as old as the game”?

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    • justin-turner overdrive

      3 years ago

      lmao that’s literally never been a rule, its just smart to not make the teams you play a far greater amount of game against better by giving them your players.

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    • JDGoat

      3 years ago

      Don’t know who you’re talking about, but I highly doubt they were talking about rentals. If a controllable player is traded in division, it’s generally known that it has to be an overpay

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  21. pinkerton

    3 years ago

    I’ll take it. I don’t mind giving up Kilome. It is what it is.

    Hopefully Asdrubal performs well.

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  22. manilavanilla66

    3 years ago

    I don’t see how this is a good pickup. He’s not as good a 2B as Hernandez ; Franco is better against RHP and Cabrera hasn’t hit LHP well this year, Franco’s weakness, and as a SS, he’s a defensive liability x 10. I can see this hurting them as much as it might help so as a Dodger fan, I like it. Maybe they could go get Danny Espinosa while they’re at it.

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    • qazer

      3 years ago

      They already have terrible defender at SS. At least this one can hit.

      When Crawford gets back, Cabrera makes a nice versatile bench guy.

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  23. tonysdog01

    3 years ago

    Hey I’ve ripped on the Mets big time but this appears to be a decent return for Cabrera. The Mets weren’t going to re sign him and at least the return is breathing. Good deal for the Phils too who get a good ball player to add to their mix.

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  24. i hate my father

    3 years ago

    Glad teams are now trading within their own division, especially for rentals. I always found it dumb when a team is on pace to lose 90+ games will not take the best package possible because they do not deal with division rivals. Always take the best package you can get regardless it is your rival team.

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    • GoRav114

      3 years ago

      IMO, taking a prospect away from a division rival can be just as satisfying. Like the Britton deal with the Yankees. He might help the Yanks win this season but then the O’s might get 6 years of control of a prospect the Yankees could have had in future.

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  25. qbass187

    3 years ago

    What is going on with all these intra-division trades this year?!?!

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  26. 377194

    3 years ago

    Can Kilome hit? Because they’re in desperate need of hitting, especially without Cabrera.

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    • misterbill

      3 years ago

      Well, now they can play McNeill at 2nd, which I think is his better spot (although still not great, apparently).

      I want to know if being a “hard worker” is like “plays well with others”?

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  27. dazedatnoon

    3 years ago

    this seems like a win for the Mets. Cabrera didn’t seem to have that much value but Kilome is a nice piece to add to the Mets system.

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  28. doxiedevil

    3 years ago

    The Phils want to win the East….. the Braves just praying for the second wildcard. Tough as a Brave fan knowing ownership more interested in profits and saving a buck.

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    • dkramer

      3 years ago

      Try being a Jays fan

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      • Jt0712

        3 years ago

        Try being a mets fan

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    • Jon429

      3 years ago

      That has absolutely nothing to do with why the Braves haven’t made a big trade yet.

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  29. indymets

    3 years ago

    So can somebody explain to me why the Mets will trade with the Phillies, yet won’t trade with the Yankees?

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  30. dazedatnoon

    3 years ago

    I thought with Altherr’s demotion maybe the Phillies could have looked to trade with the White Sox. Leury Garcia can basically line up anywhere and hits left hand pitching well. Sox also had a few lefty bullpen options that could have helped the Phillies. (Soria, Cedeno, Avilan)

    That ship has sailed. Soria gone to Brewers and Phillies grab Cabrera.

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  31. TrimReaper

    3 years ago

    Brewers needed Cabrera. Pressure’s on…

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    • anthonyd4412

      3 years ago

      Dozier?

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  32. pkazaka05

    3 years ago

    Meanwhile the brewers are just sitting back doing nothing ahhh I love it

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  33. Bryzzo2016

    3 years ago

    Yet ANOTHER Milwaukee target going elsewhere, what the hell are they doing? No team needs an upgrade at 2B/SS than Milwaukee does.

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    • pleepleus18

      3 years ago

      This is what happens when you think like a small market team!

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  34. anthonyd4412

    3 years ago

    I wouldn’t call that slash line ‘destroying’

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    • bryan c

      3 years ago

      the peripheral stats make him the 3rd best bat in the Phils line up behind Hoskins and O Cabrera. Pop and good average. What did you want at the deadline without giving up the whole farm.

      Pretty fair trade overall. If Kilome finds himself it would be like the proverbial blind squirrel finding his nut (Ricco & co being the squirrel, obviously)

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  35. Yuforreal

    3 years ago

    IF I were Milwaukee, I’d ask the Rangers about Profar….

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    • firstbleed

      3 years ago

      Not a bad idea, he has been slowly re-upping his value.

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  36. raef715

    3 years ago

    Asdrubal is good insurance for an injury, and a bat off the bench, and spot starter..but he’s going to want to play more than that; what you gain in offense over kingery you might lose in having him at shortstop. . Will be interesting to see how Gabe uses him.
    Kilome was looking more and more like a future reliever, and was on the 40 man roster, so understand them dealing him.

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    • bryan c

      3 years ago

      what? Are you starting Kingery in front of him? Do you even watch baseball? Crawford? both totally overrated players that will likely never make a real contribution. Galvis was arguably better than both combined. AC is a huge upgrade there. Glove will not lose a lot of games. You probably remember that 17th inning homer that wins games at CBP

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      • phillyfan15

        3 years ago

        Kingery is overrated after 4 months in the big leagues? Give him some time. Not every players comes up and mashes.

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        • bryan c

          3 years ago

          He is hitting .234, playing below average defense and has 5 HR. What part of that looks appealing to you? I saw people fawning over his Spring. Looks like a 4A to me. Just my opinion. You can hang on to hope if you like.

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  37. itslonelyatthetrop

    3 years ago

    A fair deal.

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  38. frank_costanza

    3 years ago

    I don’t get this trade. The Phillies defense is terrible, and the only position in their starting lineup that needed an upgrade is shortstop. They acquired a guy who can’t play shortstop…. Who are you taking out of the lineup for Asdrubal. Cesar? Has to be. He’s really cooled off lately. But this just had the makings of another guy they shift between three different positions and plays all subpar or poor

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    • El Duderino

      3 years ago

      They’ll have him play shortstop primarily, although Asdrubal has experience at second and third as well. Kingery hasn’t been great at short defensively, and Asdrubal brings more of a (power) bat. While I’m sure I’m going to shake my head on Asdrubal’s lack of range, he does do fine making routine plays from my experience watching him.

      As far as who won’t be playing, it’ll primarily be Kingery, but the Phillies seem to have soured on Franco overall so he’ll also be out. Hernandez has a great obp, so unless he needs rest or has a nagging injury, I don’t expect Asdrubal to play much second.

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      • frank_costanza

        3 years ago

        I ask respectfully, what games are you watching??? Franco has the second best OPS on the team.

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        • El Duderino

          3 years ago

          Don’t get me wrong, I feel Franco has been very solid this year. That said, his name has come up multiple times in trades this year, the Phillies often remove him on a doubleswitch (when trailing), and Kapler has had him bat 7th or later often in the past two months.

          That has nothing to do with my feelings on Franco, which are actually fairly positive, but I don’t feel I’m in the wrong saying that the Phillies had soured on him a bit after his great rookie year.

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        • raef715

          3 years ago

          they had soured on him but he’s responded when moved won in the lineup- they certainly don’t trust him so Cabrera is an option there if he returns to his old self at the plate. Imagine we will see Asdrubal at all three spots form time to time.

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  39. Ruben_Tomorrow

    3 years ago

    Asdrubal Cabrera and Odubel Herrera are on the same team? This is awesome.

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    • pleepleus18

      3 years ago

      Good catch! I love it!

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  40. jp23

    3 years ago

    Maybe the Mets use this power arm in the bullpen. He’s young with an explosive fastball. This was a good trade for the Mets. Not sure what people expected in return for a rental.this is a much better return than what they received from the A’s for Familia

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  41. BigChip10

    3 years ago

    Kind of a shame best farm in the league or at least near the top and can package up one with a couple aa players to get a quality arm under control for a couple of years. How many prospects become busts. I’m not saying get rid of the farm but we need to improve our staff and bullpen.

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  42. ericm25

    3 years ago

    absolutely bad trade.

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  43. DXC

    3 years ago

    Wow. Another mediocre right handed pitching prospect in a rental deal. That has to be between 10-12 over the past two seasons. He’s actually listed as a prospect, and isn’t 24, both of which are a little different.

    Like the A’s, the Phils have done well dealing with the 3-headed Met FO which is obviously under orders from Fred to save him some pennies. Cabrera is a great piece for anyone’s bench. Savvy veteran, switch hitter that can hit for average and some power from both sides, has played all IF positions fairly well and has been productive hitting in different spots in the lineup. He can backup an entire IF and be a good pinch hitter who can’t be neutralized by same side pitching.

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  44. Begamin

    3 years ago

    For all the middle infielders on the move i still dont understand the lack of Starlin Castro trade talks

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  45. fieldsj2

    3 years ago

    so.285 is destroying pitching now?

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    • JDGoat

      3 years ago

      Why are you ignoring the more important parts of the triple slash line? And even though average isn’t that important, .285 is pretty good

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  46. Reina Schuldiner@yahoo.com

    3 years ago

    Why are we helping the Phillies

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  47. SaberSmuckers

    3 years ago

    “Utilize”, lol. Sad.

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  48. tonysdog01

    3 years ago

    Good for the Phils. Cabrera was always a gamer for the Mets.

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  49. Matt Mccloskey

    3 years ago

    This is a good trade, tenth best prospect for solid player. I like it, Phillies defense hasn’t been great as a whole so he’ll fit right in. He’s passible at ss and to give up Kilome is good. Nowhere near a top 100 prospect

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  50. ThatBallwasBryzzoed

    3 years ago

    Theres been so many trades within the divisions. Happ, Eovaldi, zach Britton now this one. This doesn’t usually happen until then non waiver trade deadline is over.

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  51. Lemonade24

    3 years ago

    Kilome instantly became the Mets #5 prospect. Which is better than the Player they got for Familia (Toffey)whose the Mets #25 prospect now. So cant’t complain about Kilome. Wheeler is next!

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  52. Bob

    3 years ago

    Kilome, more than likely will be in the bullpen. But Im sure the mets will have plenty of time to try and get him to figure out how to throw strikes. He has never been able to. The stuff is good, and he has a workhorse body. Perhaps best case scenario is Betances.

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  53. Wahoo What a Finish!

    3 years ago

    I’ll still never forget how Asdrubal ate his way out of a monster contract in 2012. The guy went into the offseason as one of the games too short stops and returned after the off season looking like he took the challenge of every “all you can eat” buffet in town. He literally cost himself tens of millions of dollars… hope that cheap prime rib was worth it.

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  54. Wahoo What a Finish!

    3 years ago

    I’ll still never forget how Asdrubal ate his way out of a monster contract in 2012. The guy went into the offseason as one of the games too short stops and returned after the off season looking like he took the challenge of every “all you can eat” buffet in town. He literally cost himself tens of millions of dollars… hope that cheap prime rib was worth it. Good times

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  55. Lemonade24

    3 years ago

    Tonight Asbrubal will face Matt Harvey.

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