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Yankees Interested In Re-Signing CC Sabathia; Sonny Gray Drawing Trade Interest

By Steve Adams | November 5, 2018 at 3:56pm CDT

Yankees general manager Brian Cashman met with reporters today and expressed a desire to re-sign lefty CC Sabathia while also adding that “a lot” of teams have reached out to express trade interest in Sonny Gray (Twitter links via USA Today’s Bob Nightengale and MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand).

Despite the fact that Cashman has all but admitted he expects to trade Gray, rotation stability will be an area of focus for the Yankees’ front office this winter. With Sabathia and J.A. Happ hitting the open market, Jordan Montgomery out early in 2019 due to Tommy John surgery and Gray likely to be moved, the only experienced arms slotted into New York’s 2019 rotation are Luis Severino and Masahiro Tanaka. There’s plenty of internal depth in the form of Justus Sheffield, Domingo German, Jonathan Loaisiga and Chance Adams, among others, but a team with division title aspirations and the Yankees’ payroll capacity is likely to bolster that group in notable fashion.

[Related: New York Yankees depth chart]

The 38-year-old Sabathia, presumably, wouldn’t be viewed as more than a back-of-the-rotation option. However, he’s been an integral part of the team for the past decade and, despite his age and ongoing knee issues, he enjoyed a very solid 2018 season. In 153 innings (29 starts), the veteran Sabathia worked to a 3.65 ERA with 8.2 K/9, 3.0 BB/9, 1.12 HR/9 and a 44.4 percent ground-ball rate. His swinging-strike and chase rates were the best they’d been since 2012, and his fastball velocity still checked in a bit north of 90 mph — roughly in line with his past four seasons.

Sabathia has already indicated that he hopes to continue pitching in 2019, though his recent success and what figures to be a relatively reasonable price tag could lead to interest elsewhere. While Sabathia is surely open to a reunion with the Yankees, he suggested back in September that he planned to continue pitching even if it meant signing elsewhere (Twitter link via The Athletic’s Marc Carig). The Vallejo, Calif. native did draw interest from the Angels last winter, and speculatively speaking, he’d have plenty of options on the West Coast if he wished to play closer to home.

As for Gray, the right-hander was shelled more often than not when pitching at Yankee Stadium in 2018 but thrived on the road, so it’s not surprising to see numerous clubs expressing interest. Gray’s fastball velocity held strong in 2018, and his swinging-strike rate (10.1 percent) was right in line with that of a league-average starter. Gray’s ground-ball, strikeout and home-run rates were all sharp, as well. The Yankees seemingly altered his pitch selection without much success in ’18, as he threw fewer four-seamers and more curves and two-seamers than ever before.

It’s easy to see why several clubs in larger parks would carry interest — especially if they believe that a return to a more traditional pitch mix for Gray would help him inch toward his peak form. He’s something of a pricey roll of the dice, depending on the interested party, as MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects Gray to earn $9.1MM in 2019 — his final season of arbitration eligibility. But Gray’s track record, home/road splits and some solid peripheral metrics place him among the game’s more intriguing buy-low pieces this offseason.

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  1. dionls

    7 years ago

    Machado is a LOCK in pinstripes. Plus the braves need pitching…… Gray for Acuna. Acuna is still a prospect and you can avoid his sophomore slump, meanwhile braves get a proven top 15 pitcher in the NL.

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    • RoXGB

      7 years ago

      Horrific…

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    • tomrogic

      7 years ago

      What the… where do you begin with this one?

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        7 years ago

        Two words: Unknown Comic (with sign in names – no need for a bag over his head.

        One word: troll.

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        • justin-turner overdrive

          7 years ago

          I dunno, Gray-Acuna is world-class level trolling and to get it it in as the first post on a Yankees thread is…actually kinda impressive? lol

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 years ago

          JTO: You impress way to easily…

          Reply
        • justin-turner overdrive

          7 years ago

          I said “actually kinda” – but so do the 11 people who upvoted my thought, so…..stop talking to me.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 years ago

          Snooty. Aren’t you?

          Reply
    • Bald Vinny

      7 years ago

      You misspelled Gary and Gleyber by switching the A and R and forgetting the Gleyber.

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      • raffi

        7 years ago

        wow. thats a good trade.

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        • aamatho18

          7 years ago

          Still wouldn’t do Gary and Gleyber for Acuna

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        • aamatho18

          7 years ago

          Acuna is untouchable right now

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        • Cuso

          7 years ago

          Just as Sanchez was untouchable at this point last year. Things change.

          Reply
    • baseballpun

      7 years ago

      Cards should trade Luke Gregerson to the Yanks for Torres and Judge. Judge will never be the same after that injury and Torres has an obvious sophomore slump coming. Gregorson is a proven closer and would form a lights-out tandem with Chapman in the 8th and 9th.

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      • BlueJayFan1515

        7 years ago

        I hope this is also a joke.

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        • baseballpun

          7 years ago

          It is incredible how sarcasm is lost on the readership of this website.

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        • eileenyankees9

          7 years ago

          Omg, I hear ya Baseball
          It’s sickening already, and yet it is on every page,
          no one foloows policy

          Reply
        • eileenyankees9

          7 years ago

          Omg, I hear ya Baseball
          It’s sickening already, and yet it is on every page,
          no one foloows policy
          EDIT. FOLLOWS

          Reply
        • justin-turner overdrive

          7 years ago

          Sarcasm doesn’t work on the internet, period, sorry you had to find out the hard way but was it really that hard to think everyone was going to hear written words in your own voice, a voice they don’t know? Only the egomaniacal would expect such a thing (hint hint!).

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        • baseballpun

          7 years ago

          I’m sorry you aren’t as insightful as others who can perceive such things online.

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        • justin-turner overdrive

          7 years ago

          Whoa whoa whoa sorrry my king, yes yes you are the only person who matters and we all have to interpret your extremely unfunny post as high comedy. Any more demands? Or how about you just learn your lesson to not do that?

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        • johnrealtime

          7 years ago

          Lol I think people feel stupid for not having realized that someone was sarcastic so they lash out at them. It’s ok to be wrong initially and it’s also ok to be sarcastic on the internet without a “/s” (IMO). I thought in context of who pun was replying to it was obvious sarcasm

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        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          Its not incredible at all. Its also not incredible to think your were serious. With all the dumb trade proposal posted over and over why would we think you are exempt? You must be special

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        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          I am sorry that you are to egotistical to know that you are not special

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        • JKB 2

          7 years ago

          Justin-Turner that comeback was too funny!

          At least I magically interpreted it as funny so perhaps baseballpun will be proud of me now. Lol

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        • oldyank55

          7 years ago

          Stupid is as stupid does.

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        • Pab

          7 years ago

          Reverse italics. Should be the font of sarcasm

          Reply
      • dionls

        7 years ago

        I agree 100%!
        Don’t let these idiot fool you, they hate cause they dumb a&& fandom

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        • eileenyankees9

          7 years ago

          Dion,
          I approve this message bro!

          Reply
      • newyorkyankee7

        7 years ago

        Jerky

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      I think the Yanks should also move Bird to Anaheim for Trout. That will move Pujols to the bench which upgrades their lineup.

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      • Old User Name

        7 years ago

        That’s not really enough going back to NY. The Angels need to either add Ohtani or pick up half of Trouts contract.

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        • dionls

          7 years ago

          No way, trouts contract isn’t too bad, I would take it on

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      • highlanders14

        7 years ago

        No way do you trade Bird for Trout. Bird has a year more left on his contract than trout and at a much more affordable price tag.

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    • stan lee the manly

      7 years ago

      I mean…is this real? Please tell me this isn’t real…

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      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        Yea its real (sarcasm)

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    • allweatherfan

      7 years ago

      Gray for Acuna? Maybe if the Braves’ staff partakes in medical marijuana on a regular basis.

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      • Meow Meow

        7 years ago

        If anything that’d make Braves management EXTREMELY aware of what a terrible trade that would be

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      • JoeyPankake

        7 years ago

        The belief that Marijuana makes you stupid is a myth perpetuated by housewives in the 80’s and 90’s.

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      • bobtillman

        7 years ago

        …ain’t that much weed in the universe……besides, Acuna’s going to the Sox…..for Swihart…..

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        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          7 years ago

          No no no no. I’m sorry Swihart does not draw rave reviews on defense there is no way. He can clearly only be had for O’Brien. Man smh where have you been.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 years ago

          Jealousy. Pure jealousy. Swihart 1 ring, Sanchez 0.

          Reply
      • winston714

        7 years ago

        No, only Tequila in mass quantities can make you that dumb

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    • Braveslifer

      7 years ago

      Ridiculous comment, Acuna is NL ROY

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      • hiflew

        7 years ago

        You misspelled Soto.

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        • chound

          7 years ago

          Maybe in July…

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    • c1234

      7 years ago

      OKAY… trade your pitcher who has been pitching with an era around 5.00 for a future star, actually Acuna is already a star. I recommend you pay attention to baseball a little more….

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    • saavedra

      7 years ago

      This HAS to be a troll, right? Even regular Yankee fans are not THAT biased… Right?

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    • mmarinersfan

      7 years ago

      Your first drinking experience went south quick.

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      • c1234

        7 years ago

        @ baseballpun
        Throw Cecil and Fowler while your at it right? lol

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        • baseballpun

          7 years ago

          @c1234

          Only if Stanton is also coming back and the Yanks pay down some of his salary.

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      Yankees hang up unless Ozzie Albies goes too.

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    • Miklo916

      7 years ago

      Your a dumbass for this comment

      Reply
    • bronxbombers99

      7 years ago

      I sure do love hot takes

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    • tomahawks

      7 years ago

      You have about as much chance as seeing Acuna in Yankee pinstripes as Hillary Clinton being our next President. Untouchable, but pass the bong.

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      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        Well actually its rumored Hillary will run again …

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        • I Believe We Can Win

          7 years ago

          How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!

          Reply
    • SoCalStuntman

      7 years ago

      Hahaha!! Your proposal of Gray for Acuna Jr is so stupid, it’s actually kinda funny!!! Machado ain’t signing with the Yankees… period!! If you’re actually a Yankees fan, and I doubt it, you’re clueless!!

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    • Melchez

      7 years ago

      Then Ellsbury for trout.
      Lol

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      • odogfenway

        7 years ago

        Yes…three pounds of trout

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        • thecoffinnail

          7 years ago

          I’m pretty sure the Yankees would jump on that.

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        • stratcrowder

          7 years ago

          BAHAHAHAHA!!!

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    • Christian Larsen

      7 years ago

      Somebody has been playing too much MLB The Show franchise on force trades. Anthopoulos would instantly get fired for even thinking about this

      Reply
    • tomv824

      7 years ago

      Yet another delusional Yankee fan or a teenage troll post. this is by far the stupidest post I’ve seen by a yankee fan… Hey the Braves aren’t trading Acuna, especially for Gray.

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      • chino31

        7 years ago

        You’re an idiot for even responding with a comment

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    • xabial

      7 years ago

      dionls, you disgrace the rest of us Yankee fans.

      Oh wait, ur not a NYY fan. Only fool the feeble minded

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    • Codeeg

      7 years ago

      Stick to basketball please. This is a terrible take as you can tell by the reaction.

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    • steelerbravenation

      7 years ago

      Are you on drugs ???

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      • AlvaroEspinoza 2

        7 years ago

        Yum, DRUGS!!!!!!!!

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    • Dutch Vander Linde

      7 years ago

      Unless Jeter is the owner, they’re not getting Acuña that cheap.

      Reply
      • JKB 2

        7 years ago

        Why? You think Jeter would give away Acuna cheaply?

        Keep crying about Stanton. Get over it

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    • southbeachbully

      7 years ago

      Anyone who follows their NBA rumors site would now this is perfectly in keeping with Sr dionls

      Please go about your day.

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    • doxiedevil

      7 years ago

      Gray for Acuna’s socks maybe…lol

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    • Wildboyz

      7 years ago

      Dionis must work for Trade Rumors, he generates more huts and comments than most of the writers.

      Reply
    • ncaachampillini

      7 years ago

      You… are a putz.

      Reply
    • newyorkyankee7

      7 years ago

      I’m a Yankee fan and I had to laugh at that!

      Reply
    • Harry pness

      7 years ago

      Dionis 1 mlbtr readers 0

      Reply
    • kimball0401

      7 years ago

      Or you can avoid a potential superstar and face of you organization

      Reply
    • rhymo

      7 years ago

      I’ve thrown up multiple times after reading and rereading this article seeing if this is real life

      Reply
    • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

      7 years ago

      This is the time of year when self-styled GM wannabees wearing rose-colored glasses suggest a trade that will assuredly put their team in the World Series. Not wishing to be outdone by this group, and as a Phillies fan, let me suggest several trades I would make if somehow the Phillies ownership group names me GM today.

      1. Nick Pivetta and JP Crawford to the Nats for Max Scherzer and Trea Turner.

      2. Carlos Santana and Maikel Franco to the Cubs for Anthony Rizzo and Kris Bryant.

      3. Odubel Herrera and Nick Williams to the Angels for Mike Trout.

      4. Scott Kingery and Aaron Altherr to the astros for Jose Altuve and George Springer.

      5. Zach Eflin and Vince Velasquez to the Giants for Madison Bumgarner.

      6. Cesar Hernandez to the Indians for Francisco Lindor.

      There, that ought to do it. And Phillies fans will be pleased that I did all this and didn’t have to include Andrew Knapp. No doubt my GM contract that calls for big bucks is already in the mail.

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      • bobtillman

        7 years ago

        YOU’RE HIRED!!! Now we can all put on our funny hats, get into our tiny cars and drive to the circus……

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    • acarneglia

      7 years ago

      Oh god not a Dionis fan account

      Reply
    • Phanatic 2022

      7 years ago

      Crack is good heroin is better… combining them will rot your brain

      Reply
  2. HalosHeavenJJ

    7 years ago

    I’d really like to see Gray as an Angel. Get him into AL West ballparks and he’ll rebound a bit.

    Just worry about the acquisition cost if a bidding war starts.

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    • andrewgauldin

      7 years ago

      I’ll bet money he goes back to Oakland, to Anaheim, or to San Diego.

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      • SoCalStuntman

        7 years ago

        I agree!!!

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        • bleacherbum

          7 years ago

          Me three

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      • justin-turner overdrive

        7 years ago

        Jorge Mateo gives the Yanks INF depth too, which they dont have at the AAA level. Gray-Mateo straight up makes so much sense it hurts.

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        • nste23

          7 years ago

          I’d jump up and down if that happened.

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        • justin-turner overdrive

          7 years ago

          with joy or anger?

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        • rivera42

          7 years ago

          Nah, pass.

          As far as INF depth… Torreyes, Wade, and Estrada.

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        7 years ago

        Dodgers as a dark horse? They could lose Ryu, have injury concerns in the rotation. Gray’s dependable and his salary is nothing for them.

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        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          7 years ago

          I don’t see it. Ryu is not turning down a QO. That QO pretty much will disturb his market. With that said they basically will line up Buehler, Kersh, Hill, Ryu, Maeda, Wood (I believe he gets churned), Strip, Urias, Santana, Ferguson…..That’s basically without throwing a potential wildcard in there like White figuring it out. You get my drift. I’m not debating his track record and whether he can be better than the bottom half, and I don’t think the Yankees philosophy helped him, but it’s sort of redundant. If they hypothetically make a trade seems like it’d have to a TOR or an optionalable young SP. It’s going to be interesting, because of the major roster crunch they’ll try to maneuver through this offseason.

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        • newyorkyankee7

          7 years ago

          So while everybody is having a good time with this Bellinger for Gray sounds about even!!!!!! Bellinger can platoon at 1b and that allows yanks to trade Bird and Ellsbury for Trout!!!

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      7 years ago

      Three big parks but two hitters stadiums as well. Gray seems like a NL pitcher who would benefit from not facing a DH most nights.

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  3. dionls

    7 years ago

    After manny, if they sign Bryce, they could afford to trade and OF.
    Add another pitcher… Kluber for hicks?

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    • adshadbolt

      7 years ago

      Hicks is the only one they can’t trade they need someone to play center

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      • c1234

        7 years ago

        @dionls
        You are closer this time on your stated proposal but at the same time not even close…

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    • southbeachbully

      7 years ago

      Aside from whether the trade makes sense in terms of value, who would then take over in CF for a championship caliber team? Are you doubting Hicks’ ability? Or are you thinking that the Yanks need SP more than a top CF and that they should muddle thru the year with some mix of Gardner, Harper and Frazier playing CF?

      For the record, I think it would be crazy to trade Hicks as he’s a potential 6 WAR guy who’s cheap, and offensively and defensively capable. Also, the other CF options would be dicey in terms of defense and create greater physical wear and tear on others.

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    • Harry pness

      7 years ago

      Dionis 2 mlbtr readers 0

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    • thecoffinnail

      7 years ago

      I can absolutely see the Yankees chasing Kluber or Carrasco. But, not for 1 year of Hicks. It’s gonna take something like Sheffield, Florial and a sweetener like Frazier to get one of them. They both come with additional cheap years of control and Cleveland is going to want young high ceiling talent in return. They spent 1st round picks on Frazier and Sheffield in the past. So, they are a known commodity and Florial is just about the only highly regarded Yankees prospect that isn’t a RHP (they do have the catcher Seigler they took in the 1st round this year but he won’t help Cleveland in the next year or 2 when their window is open). It will hurt but I can see Cashman making that trade.

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      • thecoffinnail

        7 years ago

        I know most people view Andujar as the best trade chip the Yankees currently have. However, I think his defense is so bad he is too similar to a young Pedro Alvarez. Hopefully, he works hard on his footwork this offseason and becomes just a bit below average defender. The chances of him becoming passable at 3rd probably are not very high. I am sure his coaches in the minor leagues knew about his defensive shortcomings and have worked tirelessly with him in the past and DH is probably his future position sooner rather than later. With his biggest flaw being his footwork I don’t think a move to 1st will help much. He will still have to field similarly hit balls on that side. Just not as often. I don’t think his value is more than a solid mid rotation candidate and known commodity like Sheffield would be to the Indians in headlining a Kluber/Carrasco swap.

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    • jonnyrockets92

      7 years ago

      I think a Gray+Bird trade is in the horizon. Would like to see a more solid rotation and bring back Happ to the mix

      Reply
  4. eileenyankees9

    7 years ago

    I read on one of the sport pages today that Cashman
    has to decide whether to resign CC OR HAPP, that one was an emotional choice while the other was a more
    practical choice!!
    What do you guys think?

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    • yanks02026

      7 years ago

      If he had to pick between CC or Happ, you 100000000% go with happ.

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      • eileenyankees9

        7 years ago

        Yanks,
        I, of course agree 200%
        That’s the way to make us Yankees Fans so happy including Hal becos that is the way to stop Boston from winning, lmao

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 years ago

          Probably not so simple Eileen. One is 3 or better, other is a 4 at best. Cost in both dollars and years will also be different. Whether Cash does either, neither or both probably depends on their other moves.

          Reply
        • eileenyankees9

          7 years ago

          Hia Dew,
          you always make sense,
          so I will take note. and
          Thanks, and hope all is well!

          Reply
      • xSpecBx

        7 years ago

        What would stop them from signing both? Gray can’t pitch consistently in NY so trading him seems like the best option. A combination of signing Corbin, CC and Happ would fill out your starting rotation and then you have Montgomery coming back from TJS and others in the minors to cover when someone goes down with an injury. Corbin, Severino, Happ Tanaka and CC sounds like a pretty solid starting rotation with depth in the minors. Obviously comes down to what Happ and Corbin are looking for, but seems like a workable solution.

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    • dobsonel

      7 years ago

      Happ is by far the better option although he might command more years than Cashman is comfortable with.

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      • eileenyankees9

        7 years ago

        Dob, the article stated
        3 years at 15M a year.
        What the heck is wrong with them.
        They are doing an emotional
        bit, the same ole crap!

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        • dobsonel

          7 years ago

          Which article are you referring to?

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        • eileenyankees9

          7 years ago

          Dob,
          I have the MLB app, and it gives you all the news on every team, All their
          stats. etc, had it for
          years. I get all the alerts too

          Reply
    • southbeachbully

      7 years ago

      That sounds bizarre to me. Unless, Cashman and Hal view CC and Happ as 5th man pitchers which for Happ would be crazy.

      If the inference is that the Yanks can only afford one or the other then that would seem outrageous, especially since CC can be had on a relatively cheap 1./$0 deal whereas Happ should command a 3 year deal imo.

      I call bs. None such has been said. Let’s move on!!

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      • eileenyankees9

        7 years ago

        If I could copy and paste it to you southbeach. I would.
        Of course it doesn’t make sense. I couldn’t believe what I was reading, and the fact
        Trashman said that CC wants to end his career in NY which we all know, well I want to win Powerball???
        He is running his team now on sentiment, Gardy, CC, the heck with the WS and Boston

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      • eileenyankees9

        7 years ago

        Ok, when I was walking down each isle in the supermarket
        this morning,
        I was wondering what to cook tonight, and also wondering what story I would make up for you SBBULLY!

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    • billysbballz

      7 years ago

      One or the other makes sense to me. Similar pitchers. Happ has better stuff at his age but not 3 years worth.
      Gray will be packaged with a mid level prospect (think Chance Adams) or two and maybe a bad contract for a pitcher.

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      • yankeeschamp2019

        7 years ago

        since everyone else is throwing out crazy trades and taking your premise how about gray, adams, luis medina, Trevor Stephens and us paying 75% of ellsbury contract for Kluber.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 years ago

          LOL. Unless a team strongly believes in Adams who did not impress this year (as a Sox fan, is he another Henry Owens? way too early to tell). For Kluber, the Indians will want Adams, Sheffield + more. Ellsbury has to prove he’s healthy before any playoff team takes a flyer. Roster spot is worth more than salary net cost. Could see Hicks in that deal if there was a match with the team then getting Hamilton from the Reds. Very hard today to do a trade amongst playoff teams.

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  5. yanks02026

    7 years ago

    They need to stop… CC had a good year but its time to move on from him, just like they should have moved on from Gardner but they didn’t.

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    • Old User Name

      7 years ago

      Considering that they don’t know about Frazier’s health yet, it isn’t that bad of a signing. I agree it’s time to move on from CC.

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      • eileenyankees9

        7 years ago

        Joe.
        I think Frazier is still a bit out of it, what a shame.

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        • Old User Name

          7 years ago

          Eileen… unfortunately I think you’re right.

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    • Rbase

      7 years ago

      Why? Over the last 3 seasons, CC has averaged 160 innings and a 3.76 ERA. Among all pitchers who have pitched at least 400 innings since the start of 2016 he is 25th in ERA, ahead of guys like Price, Tanaka, Porcello, Teheran….

      No, he isn’t an ace anymore, but certainly worth the money they paid him this season (1/$10MM). They can easily slot him in the number 4 spot, sign/trade for a better pitcher as their no. 3 and let Adams/German/Sheffield fight it out for the final rotation spot.

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      • justin-turner overdrive

        7 years ago

        shh leave these people alone, they know not what they speak. CC is very good (2.5 fWAR – thats solid #3 numbers) and very cheap ($10ish mill on a 1 year deal) and has been there before. Yankee fan lunacy breaks out worse if you fan the flames.

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      • southbeachbully

        7 years ago

        If possible, I’d like the Yanks to sign 3 SP with CC the 5th starter. Let Sheffield, Loisaiga, German and Adams start at AAA, There’s bond to be a need.

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      • JustOnePitch

        7 years ago

        I think CC is good fit for the 5 spot. I would like to see Corbin and a trade (Kluber/Carrasco/Ray/Greinke) for the other spots. I think Happ makes a good back up plan if a trade doesn’t work. Have Sheffield, Adams, and Monty(once healty) waiting for the inevitable injury. German will be the next bullpen beast!

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    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      Yanks02,
      Excuse me for dreaming now, but in this dream I see Sanchez for Real. the Marlins catcher, Cory K, Happ, Corbin, wait, I’m still dreaming…

      Reply
    • southbeachbully

      7 years ago

      Why pass on CC until you secure better? We need to stop acting like we’re the Rays. If we can sign/acquire 3 guys better than CC then fine. However, he’s only going to sign a 1 year deal and if 2019 is the year he falls off the earth then you cut bait and move on. Otherwise, show me better.

      As for Gardner, they have moved on. They’ve moved on in terms of expecting him to be an every day starter. I can guarantee you the Yanks will prioritize finding a LF via FA, trade or in-house (Frazier).

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      • JustOnePitch

        7 years ago

        Agreed. I love me some Gardy, but I only see him getting 350ish plate appearances. The Yankees will do their best to add a potent left handed bat after they add some pitching. Once the lefty bat is added, the position side of things will start to take shape. But what do I know, I can’t even run a blog??

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      7 years ago

      He’d just be insurance as a #5. Could do a lot worse. Can also see C.C. in Flushing if the Yanks move on.

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  6. nyy42

    7 years ago

    No thanks CC… Move on already.

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    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      Nyy,
      How many play off games in the past few years has he help us with, wait my adding machine is right here!

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      • Yanks2

        7 years ago

        What happened to Jordan Montgomery? He’s easily a better pitcher and cheaper than CC

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        • dobsonel

          7 years ago

          Tommy John

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      • eileenyankees9

        7 years ago

        Edit: Helped

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  7. dave1775

    7 years ago

    No way I’m sick of CC he’s to old and fat. Come on let’s move on already.

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    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      LOL

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    • southbeachbully

      7 years ago

      Great!!! Please find us a suitable young and svelte starter who we can count on for a 150 IP at about a 3.80 ERA……for a 1 year $10 mil deal.

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      • dave1775

        7 years ago

        Waste of money idiot. Rather have a kid as the 5th starter then his lard a$$. Jesus move on already what are you holding on to?

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  8. dionls

    7 years ago

    As for CC, he is trash and replaceable. If he won’t take 1yr and NO more than 20mil than I say more on. He is a legend, but I don’t think Yankees should spend too much more than that

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    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      Dion,
      8m

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    • dobsonel

      7 years ago

      I would assume it would be the same one year contract plus incentives that he just completed or lower. Not sure why you think they’d give him more than last year and I’m sure he doesn’t expect it.

      Reply
      • eileenyankees9

        7 years ago

        dob. 8m

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    • southbeachbully

      7 years ago

      Dionis…..he signed a 1/$10 mil deal last year. He knows his market. I’m sure he would sign for the exact same.

      Reply
    • johnrealtime

      7 years ago

      This is obvious intentional trolling. Move along everyone

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    • Harry pness

      7 years ago

      Dionis 3 mlbtr readers 0

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  9. bigturtlemachine

    7 years ago

    The Reds likely will at least make a run at Sonny Gray. Derek Johnson was his pitching coach at Vanderbilt and Cincinnati has made adding starting pitching a priority. The Reds also have vowed to increase payroll.

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    • hiflew

      7 years ago

      Great minds think alike.

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  10. hiflew

    7 years ago

    Gray would fit perfectly with the Reds. It’s still a hitter’s park, but there would be less pressure on him and he could be the ace of the staff like he was in Oakland instead of the #4 or #5 starter in NY. Gray for Billy Hamilton maybe.

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    • Red X

      7 years ago

      Gray to the Reds almost makes to much sense as long as the Reds and Yankees can work something out. I love Billy Hamilton but the Reds need pitching and we would loose something in CF but it would be worth it. I’d probably do that, the question is will ownership let Williams and Company do it?

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  11. NuckBobFutting

    7 years ago

    Would not be surprised if Pirates are in on Gray

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    • Old User Name

      7 years ago

      I hope not. The Yankees usually get hosed when dealing with Pittsburgh.

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    • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

      7 years ago

      Ivan Nova for Sonny Gray.

      Best offer.

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  12. justin-turner overdrive

    7 years ago

    Sonny Gray for Jorge Mateo straight up lets lock it in

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  13. deweybelongsinthehall

    7 years ago

    Memo to Steve Adams: Please delete these comments and re-post the article.

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  14. Phillies2017

    7 years ago

    What would gray cost?

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    • Old User Name

      7 years ago

      Lottery ticket players. The Yankees already have a numbers crunch on the 40 man roster. I don’t think he’ll bring back real big league help so no need to create more roster problems.

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  15. stan lee the manly

    7 years ago

    Sonny Gray for Corey Seager. Add in Kershaw to shed some additional salary.

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    • Cam

      7 years ago

      Pass the pipe.

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      • stan lee the manly

        7 years ago

        Only if Bellinger is holding it, he’s coming over too when the Yanks include Bird.

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  16. Yanks2

    7 years ago

    Trade Sonny Gray, Clint Frazier, and Giancarlo Stanton for Walker Buehler and David Freese

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  17. eileenyankees9

    7 years ago

    I just hope the poor kid, Gray does well WHEREVER
    he goes,
    I felt so bad for him!!

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  18. Tenn Braves

    7 years ago

    Gray and Frazier to ATL for Terehan and Fried.

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    • billysbballz

      7 years ago

      Nahhhh take out Frazier and replace him with a fringe prospect to get that done!

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      • Tenn Braves

        7 years ago

        Frazier can still be a fringe prospect. Plus he’s from Georgia and his family are big Braves fans. Hes still got good value, just need to check out the concussion issues.

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  19. driftcat28 2

    7 years ago

    Hate to say it but CC should be low on the priority list. Cashman should start with Corbin and then Happ. I’d prefer Cashman look into resigning Robertson and/or Miller to keep the pen strength. Even look into what a Kluber package looks like. Then after all that, if there’s room, look to see if CC fits

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    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      Drift.
      Now you’re talking
      Amen

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  20. Le Grande Orangerie

    7 years ago

    Sonny Gray for Troy Tulowitzki straight up. Who says no?

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    • justin-turner overdrive

      7 years ago

      Tulo is owed 3/$38M if you buy out the ’21 option, 3/49 if not. Sonny is owed probably something like 2/20 at most. Yankees would be idiots to take on Tulo’s money if it’s “straight up” like you say. Maybe give the Yankees Rowdy Tellez and Gurriel to even out that money.

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      • Le Grande Orangerie

        7 years ago

        But Tulo is an All-Star shortstop with two years left to fill in for Didi. His $38 million pales in comparison to the cost of Manny. A power righthand bat and GG defence.

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        • its_happening

          7 years ago

          Jays would do that deal in a heartbeat.

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        • Pab

          7 years ago

          Lol. I play more games than Tulo. Are you trying to find out which ss plays less games?

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  21. Soldierofgod619

    7 years ago

    Cory Spangenberg for Sonny Gray. Gray goes to a more pitcher friendly NL west and Yankees get a LH utility bat with above avg speed and can play 2b and some 3b

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    • justin-turner overdrive

      7 years ago

      Spangenberg is total garbage, Gray was actually good everywhere but Yankee Stadium last year. Sonny Gray for Robbie Erlin and a prospect might work with SD.

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  22. ChiSoxCity

    7 years ago

    Why would any team have interest in trading for Gray? You’d basically have to pay me to take him.

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  23. julyn82001

    7 years ago

    Sonny back to Oakland period. Billy Beane can offer a couple of class A prospects to get it done. A’s Bob Melvin and staffs will bring Gray back out of his recent bad times…

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  24. scottaz

    7 years ago

    Yankee fans…what about Zack Greinke, plus a bad contract, Yasmany Tomas for Gray and bad contract Jacoby Ellsbury? If this seems like a framework for a trade, what else would the Yankees have to kick in?

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    • eileenyankees9

      7 years ago

      Scott,
      Zach Cranky will not pitch in NY. he would be another Gray

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  25. Bcap1983

    7 years ago

    I see the Yanks signing Machado, playing him at SS till Didi comes back and also signing or trading for a stop gap 3B. Andujar gets traded along with Frazier to add a top SP, Kluber or they revisist talks with the Mets.

    Or maybe they just do what they did 10 years ago and sign Corbin, Machado and Harper. Not what I’d want or expect but nothing would surprise me.

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  26. stansfield123

    7 years ago

    Okay, so in an entirely unrelated exercise, let’s pick three major leaguers at random, and see what their bWAR was in the last three years:
    Brett Gardner: 11.1 bWAR
    CC Sabathia: 7.3 bWAR
    Bryce Harper: 7.5 bWAR

    Hmmmmmm….what’s money well spent? $7M to the dude with the 11 WAR? $5-8M to the dude with the 7.3 WAR? Or $300+M to the big flashy star with the 7.5 WAR?

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      Now do fwar! Bwar is not the superior one, and there’s no way you can argue it’s close between those three. Harper is 10 times the player of both

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    • Cam

      7 years ago

      A couple of important points:

      By fWAR, Gardner has had 8.9 over prior three years. Harper has had 11.3.

      Expand it to prior four years, and Harper leads 20.6 to 11.4. Harper has also had 113 less PA’s in that span.

      Gardner is 35 years old, Harper is 26. One will produce significantly more than the other going forward – they’re not paying for past production, they’re paying for future production.

      Also, Harper’s WAR has been significantly impacted by defensive numbers, due to being played out of position. He has played 1,333 innings in CF over the last four years, compared to Gardner’s 781. Harper actually has a positive rating in RF across multiple metrics – the position he SHOULD be playing.

      Anything else to add?

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  27. billysbballz

    7 years ago

    Take out Tomas. That’s too much bad money coming back for two years of Elsbury who the Yanks got a full year of insurance money for last season.

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  28. scottaz

    7 years ago

    Elsbury is due almost $48M over 3 years ($21+M x 2 yrs plus a $5M buyout year).

    Yasmany Tomas is due $32.5M over 2 years.

    Yankees would save $15.5M by swapping those two bad contracts.

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    • stansfield123

      7 years ago

      Ellsbury is insured, and firmly planted on the DL. The Yankees aren’t paying his salary. He also doesn’t take up a roster spot. Only possible problem is that the Yanks will have to pay a couple of mill. extra in luxury tax because of him.

      So why would they be interested in taking on an ineffective player they would actually have to pay, AND spend a roster spot on?

      If they’re trading Ellsbury to Arizona, they’re trading him for someone they actually need. That would be Greinke. I think an almost straight up swap would make sense (with the Yankees giving up a little bit in either prospects or money, and of course paying the $5M 2021 buyout that’s not insured on Ellsbury)

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      • billysbballz

        7 years ago

        Bro you nailed it! Great post and 100% accurate regarding Elsbury.

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      • scottaz

        7 years ago

        Cashman announced last month that Ellsbury will be healthy for Spring Training. You are operating under dated information. Does a healthy Ellsbury, taking up a roster spot and earning a salary just over $21M, fit into the 2019 Yankees OF plans?

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  29. scottaz

    7 years ago

    Yankee fans…what about this trade scenario? 3b Jake Lamb, SS Chris Owings and DH Yasmany Tomas for bad contract Jacoby Elsbury?

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  30. Nooffseason

    7 years ago

    I am expecting major shade for this one:

    what about Voit, Gray, and Ellsburry for Votto?

    Yanks need SPing and a dynamic left handed bat. Machado’s injury history scares me and Harper’s numbers have headed in the wrong direction. A traditional middle-of-the-order bat is needed, of the I’ll of a Votto.

    After the pitching, I would love to see the Yanks pursue 1) Daniel Murphy; 2) Joey Votto; or 3) Robbie Cano (in that order).

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    • stansfield123

      7 years ago

      The numbers make some sense, but Votto and Ellsbury both have to agree to any trade. You might be able to convince Votto to accept a move, but definitely not Ellsbury.

      Ellsbury is from Arizona. That’s why there is speculation about a trade to the D-backs. There’s no real chance he can be traded anywhere else. Certainly not to Cincinatti. Why would he say yes to that? And in a high profile trade like this, where the locals are gonna be upset about losing Votto and getting nothing in return?

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      • Nooffseason

        7 years ago

        1) Playing time

        2) Locals get a young player with upside, a young starter at value who should benefit from pitching in the national league, and out from under a contract that has limited the team’s flexibility. Concerning Ellsburry, he need not be included; it just made more sense numbers wise. A prospect can be included as an alternative or as an addition.

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    • justin-turner overdrive

      7 years ago

      Votto has said he’s a 1-team player, and he can veto any trade.

      Please do some research before wasting everyones time like this.

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      • Nooffseason

        7 years ago

        Vetoes have been waived and statements retracted. To your point, maybe improbable, but to mine, not impossible.

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        • Pab

          7 years ago

          Haha keep dreaming. I like how all these trades are yank positive. Like the other teams are blindly saying yes. Why would as ever take a similar amount of contract for a lesser productive player? Why would a player who says he’d want to stay on one team and has a no trade clause. Say yes? Ridiculous trades. People need to really get an idea how it benefits the other team. Umm trade for trout and we’ll give you a bag of peanuts.

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        • Nooffseason

          7 years ago

          Yeah because trades that favor one team talent wise never happen. Uh hmm, Stanton for Castro. And players who qualify their statements about staying with one team never get traded. Gonzalez, Verlander and the list goes on. I agree, there are some unreasonable trade suggestions. The one I proposed is not one of them, especially if a prospect is included. The legitimate issue with the trade, is not the one my myopic responders have identified, it is that Votto’s contract is widely viewed as untradeable, i.e. team’s are reluctant to pay a 42 year old $20+ million. It

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  31. ⚾The Heater from Van Meter⚾

    7 years ago

    Gray to the Dodgers with one million international signing money for;

    #9 Will Smith c/2b
    #20 Caleb Ferguson LHSP

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    • stansfield123

      7 years ago

      The Dodgers went to the WS. I’m a Yankee fan, but still, technically, going from the ALDS loser to the WS loser is a promotion.

      I don’t see a promotion in Sonny Gray’s near future. Especially since the Dodgers also just reset their luxury tax, so they can afford to compete with the Yanks for the top free agents on the market. Why would they take the Yankee leftovers instead?

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      • justin-turner overdrive

        7 years ago

        Because Gray is cheap and was good everywhere else but Yankee stadium last year, and has a history dating back with Oakland where he was always good. If Gray is your 5th SP, you are probably winning 100 games.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      7 years ago

      The Dodgers have no need for Gray. The SP depth is pretty deep. And a year of Gray it’s a meh proposition. Plus that’s a power arm they can turn to during the final months of the season should they decide to stretch Ferguson out. Seems like a pretty easy no from the Dodgers.

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  32. Bubba 5

    7 years ago

    Of course teams are calling about Gray. Cashman wants to trade him so he has to create a buzz. He isn’t stupid. Well let me think about that one. Yes he did give Ellsbury 153,000,000 so cancel that last statement.

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  33. slider32

    7 years ago

    Fool me once, I don’t see Cashman going down the road with either Harper or Machado. I think they just sign an infielder like Lowrie. I can see them signing Corbin and trading for another starter.

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  34. bravesfan

    7 years ago

    Braves gonna be the dark horse team for Gray. Calling it now!

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  35. tigerfan1968

    7 years ago

    Jays could offer Kevin Pillar and Russell Martin. Jays absorb most of Martin’s 20 million salary.

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  36. Drewnasty

    7 years ago

    CC lives in NJ full time. He hasn’t lived in California in nearly a decade and when he did live in California, the distance from Anaheim to his home is the same distance between New York City and North Carolina. It’s not close.

    This narrative is stupid and this site keeps pushing it for some reason. It’s really uninformed and this site should be better.

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  37. elscorchot

    7 years ago

    Think gray makes a lot of sense for the marlins. No pressure and back to the nl

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  38. Caleb Clark

    7 years ago

    sonny gray to new york. no, not yankees the mets.

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  39. coocoo

    7 years ago

    Bring back Girardi

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  40. spitball

    7 years ago

    Carrasco, Kluber and encarnacion for Gray, Andujar, Voit, and Sheffield

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