The Cubs have been linked to the reliever market, though they may wait until January before making any new acquisitions. As one source speculates to the Chicago Tribune’s Mark Gonzales, the Cubs might first need to clear some payroll space before adding to their bullpen. Rumors of a lack of a spending capacity have loomed over Chicago’s offseason, and the crunch could be tighter than anticipated if the team will have to move other salaries to afford even mid-tier relief pitching signings. Gonzales runs through a few of the names on the Cubs roster that could possibly be dealt in salary-clearing moves, though he notes that several of these options don’t look too feasible, as players are either coming off down years (i.e. Brian Duensing, Brandon Kintzler) or they’re coming off good years (i.e. Jose Quintana, Ben Zobrist) and thus still have value to a Cubs team looking to contend in 2019.
Some more trade rumblings from around the Winter Meetings…
- The Athletics have some interest in Tigers left-hander Blaine Hardy, the San Francisco Chronicle’s Susan Slusser reports. Hardy started 13 of his 30 appearances in 2018 and posted some generally solid (3.56 ERA, 3.00 K/BB rate) numbers, though he didn’t miss many bats with a 6.9 K/9. Hardy is only projected to earn $1.2MM next season and he is controllable through two more arbitration-eligible seasons beyond 2019, making him a particularly good fit for the budget-conscious A’s. With a rotation still dotted with injury question marks, the A’s could use Hardy as a swingman again, deploying him as a starter on occasion or possibly coming in to pitch after an “opener” starts the game. Despite this need for pitching, Oakland could be playing the waiting game on starting options, as Slusser notes that the club has yet to contact free agent arms like Derek Holland, Gio Gonzalez, or Lance Lynn. Also from Slusser’s piece, he notes that the Athletics will still look to re-sign catcher Jonathan Lucroy even after acquiring Chris Herrmann yesterday.
- There have been a number of names on the Red Sox roster (some surprising) mentioned as trade candidates within the last 24 hours, and the Boston Globe’s Nick Cafardo mentions that Brock Holt is another name that has received interest. A deal seems unlikely, however, as the super-utilityman is slated to handle second base if Dustin Pedroia isn’t ready for the start of the season. Holt rebounded from a poor 2017 campaign to hit .277/.362/.411 over 367 PA for the World Series champs last season, spending most of his time as a second baseman but also making starts at shortstop, third base, first base, and both corner outfield slots.
- As usual, a ton of trade speculation has swirled around the Yankees, and GM Brian Cashman told reporters (including George A. King III of the New York Post) that he has been asked about virtually every player on his roster. That list even includes James Paxton, as teams checked in to see if New York would consider flipping the star southpaw after acquiring him from the Mariners last month (needless to say, the Yankees declined). Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton were the only two players Cashman said he hadn’t yet been asked about.
Syndergaarden Cop
Someone just do….something. This has been a hella boring Winter Meetings.
timm-2
allow me to correct you sir
This has been another hella boring Winter Meetings.
savagedeluxe
Yeah, a lot of news here…
Pedroia won’t start the season.
Speculation speculation
slider32
No need for winter meetings anymore, GM’s today text so much when they do their deals.
WestCoastSoxFan
Exactly. These are like class reunions in the era of Facebook.
yanks02026
I would love if they did a show like what the NFL does and seeing the working of how baseball deals comes to life. But I know the players would be hurt seeing teams trying to trade them and stuff
thebare54
Put a penalty if each team can’t make one trade and if no trades made that week make all teams wait till 1-15 the next year for any deal not applied to free agents the should loss the comp round after February 15 .so sad we must do this I bet Machodo and Harper won’t get 200 hundred and 7 years that’s sick Money even for the greedy
mikeyank55
Peddy has been spotted working out every day on the iconic Apple “space ship” corporate office campus. This secretive location includes workshops where the next version of the Apple Watch is being developed. He was followed to a Starbucks in Cupertino where he offered a hint of his off-season regimen. “I’m working on something really big to help the team next year” after admitting that his knee is not responding to treatment.
WestCoastSoxFan
Upvoted for the effort here alone.
frankf
Nothing ever really happens at the winter meetings; rather not much is really finalized at the meetings. It’s where the execs and agents chat and primarily lay ground work for deals to be made in the upcoming weeks.
Matt Galvin
Theirs been some moves and Trades but not what Greg Amsinger wants the dam to break in terms of moves.
WestCoastSoxFan
And collude! Don’t forget about the collusion.
EndinStealth
This your first time? There never really is much. One or two deals is all that happens. A little ground work is set for later.
ortsacnilrats
Your name is amazing. That is all.
Foreveryankees
Yankees are doing something, but the wrong something! Dumb move signing Happ!!
mike 96
three years 74 millioh is a lot
Jasmine Drewry
@mike 3 years 74 million what are the Yankees thinking, face palm that’s way to much
WestCoastSoxFan
Paxton and Andujar for deGrom?
andremets
For Degrom? Cmon.
salvatop
Has to be the worst winter meetings in recent years. Some GMs have already left.
doxiedevil
I imagine the last couple hours of the meetings we see some deals. nobody is in a hurry. Long time before spring training.
sox34
While Brock holt might not put up the stats, he has a great face for baseball. You can tell that he has a winning mentality.
z3rogs
Brock Holt is referred to as \o/ on some Boston forums.
Flapjax55
Brock Holt is an awesome guy. I see him consistently engaging with fans. He’s a known good teammate. And he’s a cost-efficient and dependable utility man. Would hate to see him go!!
ScottRC
I wouldn’t mind dealing Hardy to Oakland. We’ve got enough lefties.
sdfriarfan
Where are the Padre trade rumors? WTF?
ChiSox_Fan
Try the Padres team site…
sdfriarfan
Nothing there either. I just want something to happen.
Android Dawesome
There was a Wil Myers to the Indians rumor earlier today. I get what you mean. That’s about as exciting as it gets.
Toakland
About time this site focused on the A’s. The best team in the AL West with the best fans in baseball.
baseballpun
Psst…the Astros moved to the AL West a few years back.
Lefty Grove’s right hand
Yes, the Astros are the best no question, but their first two years were still bottom dwellers.
Salvi
Best fans in baseball? Try getting these great fans to go to a game. Their attendance is horrible for a playoff team.
petrie000
Maybe he meant rarest?
desertbull
So ……. the article / info about the Cubs was just pure speculation.
As usual.
Cat Mando
ru·mor
noun
a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth.
synonyms: gossip, hearsay, talk, speculation
petrie000
Par for the course, really. the Cubs are a fairly tight-lipped organization these days
jleve618
Any of you guys see LaRussa on high heat? That got intense, haha.
baseballpun
What happened?
BillyBartyBaseball
Glad to see someone get in the face Christopher “Chihuahua” Russo. Can’t stand the guy..
costergaard2
I was able to meet and have lunch with Chris Russo, he’s a really nice guy. A lot of the radio stuff is an act…
jdgoat
I’m not much of a Russo guy either but he was right in that argument. The veterans committee is kind of a joke that just gives their friends taps on the back.
bobtillman
THAT WAS INSANE!!!!! I thought Tony was going to slug him…..pretty refreshing considering the usual drivel…..more fun than the Repub debates a couple of years ago…….I REALLY feel bad for Baines, who not only was pretty good, but was a class act for 20+ years….Dunno about HOF tho….
swanhenge
I listened to it. I loved that Russo pressed LaRussa on the subject, but I’m not satisfied w his answer. Haines getting in was cronyism at its finest. No one on Earth can rightfully defend his induction. If that’s how this veterans committee is gonna work, I look forward to Ray Durham’s induction as well.
swanhenge
And then Russo asks for a high five after the interview. Creampuff move.
Juggy
I am bored to tears watching the mlb Network
theoepsteinhof
Regarding Cubs, I find it hard to believe that with all the past statements by Ricketts & Theo about the window, another WS, the intense determination to win now…that they suddenly just decide to sit this one out?
Doesn’t make sense, especially when the current group has only 3 more years together.
I still think Theo is creating an environment where he can do his business his way.
theoepsteinhof
Also, every time the Cubs sign a big FA, it seems to be a move that shocks everyone! They are the best at setting the narrative and operating in stealth mode. Regard the need to move salary beforehand…these guys leave no stone unturned and plan years in advance for payroll. Would they really pick up Hamels $20m option if they were broke? They could’ve just penciled Montgomery into the rotation again!
theoepsteinhof
I follow them as close as possible (over 50 years!), and Dawson was a shock! Soriano, Lester, Darvish, Zobrist, Heyward…I was stunned by every one of those signings!
Polymath
Would Bryant for Fowler shock you too?
wrigleywannabe
They aren’t sitting out. My Lord, it’s December 12th.
wrigleywannabe
Lester can come off the books after the 2020 season. Zobrist is done after this year.
Chatwood, if still around is, I think 2020, but I’m not sure, without looking.
The money will be there to keep the core together, if desired.
My guess, that’s another reason they aren’t looking at the top bug name bp guys.
They don’t want money locked up for another 5 years.
Anthony Princeton
Put aside what anyone associated with the Cubs have said and look at their most recent actions. They picked up Hamels option and traded Smyly to free up a few million dollars. Chatwood is still on this team and a liability. Toronto just cut Tulo and will eat the $38m remaining. If the Cubs were still sitting on millions of payroll flexibility why not cut their loss and eat the remains $25m or so over the next 2 years? The Cubs need multiple relief pitchers, particularly since Morrow’s surgery. Strop Cishek, Edwards and probably Montgomery isn’t going to cut it when the starting rotation is a combination of old, declining, injured and they don’t pitch deep into games.
petrie000
Actually it does make sense on some level to choose not to blow past the luxury tax hit right now
The team as of right now is pretty good. Last season ended in disappointment,but they had the second best record in the NL, so a massive overhaul isn’t really needed. A lot of their key guys are up for big raises and extensions in the near future, so having payroll space for that isn’t a terrible idea.
If you read it more as the Cubs choosing not to spend then jumping to the conclusion they can’t, there’s logic there.
That said, i think it’s still possible they’re still ‘in’ on Harper and just want to save money for that.
cards81
Where are all the cubs fans talking about how Cubs have and endless amount of money?
mike127
I’m thinking the same and am leaning to something not going quite as projected with the TV network. While very stealth, this is about as transparent an organization there is in sports (especially Theo) and things have gone kind of dark (pun intended) in regards to their own TV network. Being that they are under the 12 month mark now, there should be much more news to this. Perhaps the endless amount of money from the network may be endless??????
The problem with all these salary movement things—if the Cubs don’t want Kintzler at $5M or Duesing at his rate—why would any other team want them at that rate. Like the Reds want to pay Chatwood $13M a year? Please….
ABCD
Perhaps getting the network off the ground is costing the Cubs all the money they want to spend right now. That and the Ricketts don’t want to go too far over the luxury tax threshold.
For better and worse, the Cubs did most of their shopping for 2019 last winter. A team that won 95 games is pretty much intact with chances for both improvement and regression among the current players.
Also, $50-60 million is coming off the books next winter. If half of that goes to arb raises, those players and the Cubs as a whole will most likely have had a really good year. And we will know by then if the new TV network will boost payroll for 2020.
theoepsteinhof
Were still here…just in shock that a broke team would shell out $20m for Hamels, then fold up shop!
Payne Train
You sounds like a bitter cardinals fan
Payne Train
Lol I’m just kidding – go cards …. cubs are yuck
tigerbreak
It’s disappointing that Ricketts doesn’t want to go over the luxury tax.
At this point, if they want to clear salary; package Duensing + Kintzler with a couple of guys at the bottom of the top 30 and ship them to some team that wants to be an opportunist.
jade 2
The Cubs payroll is at 220million + Way over the first tier. They probably don’t want to go over the second tier unless it’s a good deal.
ToddZT54
Who’s going to want a package of Kintzler & Duensing?
Lefty Grove’s right hand
The A’s don’t need Hardy. Although he did not start any games last season, they already have a swingman in Petit.
bobtillman
Petit’s my nominee for the most under-appreciated pitcher in MLB. Swing man/starter/ closer etc. etc. And pretty effective whatever he does. And cheap @ 5M a year.
Lefty Grove’s right hand
I completely agree.
baseballhobo
I wonder if Blaine Hardy has read any of the Hardy Boys’ novels?
Not Xabial
He wrote them.
stymeedone
I wonder if trading Hardy would help the rebuild at all?
WsuMojo
That would be interesting to see Paxton traded. Pretty sure the Yanks would get nearly twice the return than what they gave up for him (one good to great SP prospect depending on the scout/expert) and two intriguing, but not even top 30 Yankee prospects.
khopper10
The second pitcher was on every top 30 I could find.
ChiSoxCity
Yankees, Red Saux, never give up their top prospects in trades. Great for them, bad for the rest of the league who get fleeced in every instance where top players are invloved.
jkjmmaol
The Red Sox never give up top prospects? Aren’t you a White Sox fan? Remember that little Chris Sale trade?
retire21
Jordy Mercer to the Motor City $5M.
bradthebluefish
Pedroria should either retire or play. I’m sick of players who ride the bench. Glad folks like David Wright are man enough to retire when they know they can’t play anymore.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Oh, you mean the David Wright who played in 75 games in the past four years (zero the past two) while raking in $20 million per year?
kenly0
So, if you were unable to perform your duties at work. But, your employer said don’t worry about it. Just show up and we’ll pay you. Would you say Don’t worry about it and retire? I don’t think so. So, shut it.
philsandsox2009
Since David Wright didn’t play due to
an injury, the Mets didn’t pay him a dime. The teams have insurance on all the players in case something like this happens. The insurance company had to pay his salary.
petrie000
Part of his salary, the Mets still had to pay some
But he was still getting paid for effectively nothing, he didn’t do the ‘honorable’ thing and retire until his contract was up
Mikel Grady
Yes cubs are broke . Ricketts are wiping windshields of area cars with newspaper and Theo and Jed giving plasma. Nobody knows Cubs $$$ just like any other teams
ChiSoxCity
LoL
On a serious note, if the Cubs are indeed at their limit for roster salary, Theo has some explaining to do.
petrie000
Since when does anybody have to explain a 200 million dollar payroll?
Cubs are one of the biggest spending teams in the league right now, and not actively slashing payroll
Seriously, think before posting
ChiSoxCity
Well for starters, most of their biggest contracts are either injury prone and not contributing, or underperforming and severely over paid. So if their tapped out already, they’re screwed for years to come. Maybe you should consider thinking, then you might understand more.
petrie000
Understand that you answered with a hypothetical?
You want Theo to explain away your unfounded assumptions about what might be true?
Sorry, I can’t really understand that, I’m an adult…
ChiSoxCity
Uh, there’s enough history with Darvish to realize that he’s not a reliable closer, even with plenty of rest between appearances. Darvish hasn’t been healthy in 4 years, and mentally fragile to boot. Of course, these facts would be all hypothetical to Cubs fan, what with the addiction to Koolaid and all.
ChiSoxCity
*Meant Marrow in relation to closing.
ASapsFables
A very quiet winter meetings for the Cubs thus far and not much more optimism regarding the remainder of the offseason, at least in terms of any impact FA signings. This all comes on the heels of some very intriguing but mostly false trade rumors involving key players like Kris Bryant, Willson Contreras and Kyle Schwarber. The biggest Cubs news since the end of the season has pretty much revolved around their manager and the team’s unwillingness to commit to a contract extension along with yet another overhaul to the coaching staff.
ChiSoxCity
Gleyber Torres and Eloy Jimenez said hi.
JKB 2
Typical comment from a jealous Sox fan obsessed with the Cubs popularity. Rather than trolling like most White Sox fans why not say something intelligent
ASapsFables
As a diehard Cub and White Sox fan I will extend an hola to Eloy Jimenez next April when he debuts. I will also say hello to Dylan Cease, hopefully no later than July 31st.
On a related note, rumor has it that the Yankees and White Sox have been sending the Cubs annual Christmas cards ever since their respective summer deadline deals in 2016 and 2017. In the holiday spirit, perhaps you can join them as well.
Honestabe
The Javy rumor has the most teeth to it and it could open room for Machado.
petrie000
That would still leave them needing a shortstop
ChiSoxCity
Haha, why would the Cubs trade Javy to make room for Machado. That doesn’t make an ounce of sense.
JKB 2
Sure honestabe the Cubs are going to trade Javy Baez? Ok. Hahaha whatever you say
Honestabe
You got me, I don’t want Machado. Trading Javy while stock is high makes much more sense than all the nonsense of Schwarbs or KB being moved. To reduce payroll, I can see moving Ben, don’t like that idea but Cubs are paying him too much as part time player. Same with Heyward. IMO those two are more than enough for veteran leadership and they are part of the core. Offense is good-to-go as is. If they start off slow again and fall behind in the standings, cut Maddon loose and shake things up then.
ToddZT54
Javy is not going anywhere. Theo has allegedly already turned down trade offers for Schwarber & said he’s not on the trade market. Ben is almost 40 years old & in the last year of his contract, so no teams are likely to be interested. There is a chance of trading Bryant next season & signing Nolan Arenado to replace him. There might be plans to trade Schwarber next season, then Bryant moves to LF, & Arenado moves to 3B, which would be the best possible outcome. Javy is not going anywhere. The Cubs don’t want Russell to play SS, but due to him behaving like a thug, he lost all his trade value & we got screwed keeping him. The Heyward situation is unfortunate. He’s a great fielder but just can’t seem to put it together at the plate. He’s also not going anywhere, cause there is not a team in the galaxy that would touch his massive contract! The Cubs are also screwed with him(same with Chatwood)
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Brandon kinLzer for a sack of potatoes would be good. Hes awful.
Dynasty
Paxton and Andujar (plus other pieces) for DeGrom. Sign Happ and Machado to replace them.
fearthebeard13
I’d be surprised if the Sox move Holt…versatility is a plus and his teammates seem to love him. Every clubhouse needs a guy like him
SG
No way ….. LOL
megaj
Cubs are in SERIOUS trouble. They couldn’t hold off the Brewers last season and they will be even better this year, while the Cubs still lack a leadoff hitter, an everyday 2B, an everyday CF, and an impact clutch bat. Lester and Hamels are a year older and declining, Darvish will get hurt, Chatwood sucks, and Hendricks relies too much on his change. They may finish 4th unless the brass figure out some BIG moves and quick.
megaj
So easy if I was the Cubs GM to offer the Mets Quintana and Almora for Syndergard. Solves the problem of the Cubs shedding a little bit of salary and giving Mets CF that they need
ToddZT54
The Cubs would probably have to throw in Happ or Caratini to complete that deal.
Harold Carey
Top 10 Cubs List for Success Offseason & 2019
1. Sign a Top-line Catcher with leadership skills. Split the duties with Contreras. We need two awesome catchers. Contreras needs time to grow. He was used in way too many innings last season by Maddon.
2. Keep Ben Zobrist, He is a class act, and the only real professional hitter
3.Look at firing Jed Hoyer! Theo doesn’t need a yes man. This needs to come from ownership. He can’t scout pitching worth a Sh*T. A lot of the talent comes from his predecessor, Baez, Contreras etc. Jed needs to go not Maddon.
4. Again Fire Jed Hoyer
5. Jason Heyward is on his way to being worst, I say worst free agent signing Bust in MLB history, Need another leader in outfield
6. Possibly trade Kris Bryant. He has hit his peak and is a diminishing asset. His swing will always make him have shoulder issues.
7. Don’t sign Bryce Harper. He is destined for injuries, and is severely over rated. He is a high school drop out who has been beating his body up since he was 16. His body is going to fail. Last season he was not good.
8. Look at signing Manny Machado if the deal is right. He is actually better than Baez, but I like Baez.
9. Again sign a great catcher. This will help Contreras.
10. Sign Joe Maddon to an extension. He brought all the success to Chicago. I’ve been alive a very long time, and can’t remember Cubs going to the playoffs 4 years in a row. I loved the last 4 years. Keep Maddon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dorothy_Mantooth
The Red Sox deal for Pablo Sandoval beats the Cubs deal for Heyward as the worst free agent signing in history! They got absolutely no value out of him and still have to pay him $20M+ this year and $5M next year. At least Heyward still plays gold-glove caliber defense and can still run the bases in the rare case when he gets on base. Panda brought nothing but luxury tax hell to the Red Sox that they are still paying for today!
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Kris Bryant is nowhere near his peak. They need to lock him up. Trading him would be a mistake..
Alfonso Soriano is worse than Heyward
Derek Lee extension is worth than hwyqard
Milton Bradley is worse than hwywaed.
ChiSoxCity
Bryant had one great year. Now that pitchers have figured out his swing, he’s been striking out a ton, and looks human. If he continues to regress this year, the Cubs would be smart to sell high before he reaches free agency.
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Cubs would be smart to give him 10 to 12 years at 260mil to start. The rumor of the 10 year 200mil extension they offered him never happened. He’s smart be does want to talk extension til at least 2years before his walk year.