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Marlins Reportedly Engaged In “Substantive” Realmuto Trade Talks

By Steve Adams | January 10, 2019 at 1:17pm CDT

Now that Yasmani Grandal has agreed to terms with the Brewers, the Marlins are ramping up trade talks surrounding J.T. Realmuto and are in “substantive discussions” with six teams, reports Joe Frisaro of MLB.com. Frisaro pegs the Dodgers, Braves, Astros, Rays, Padres and Reds as the six teams still in the mix for Realmuto. Frisaro further tweets that the Dodgers “may be [the] most motivated” to land Realmuto of the six current suitors.

As one would expect, the report indicates that Miami’s asking price remains extremely high — at least one elite prospect and, in some cases, a big league catcher with some MLB experience already under his belt. For the six clubs in question, the Dodgers (Austin Barnes), Astros (Max Stassi), Padres (Austin Hedges) and Rays (Michael Perez) would best fit that billing. The Reds, too, have Tucker Barnhart as a catcher with MLB experience, though he’s signed through 2021 (plus a 2022 option) as part of a $16MM extension. He’s previously been rumored as a potential piece in talks with the Marlins, but while his salary isn’t exactly prohibitive, it’d be more logical to see Miami pursue younger, pre-arbitration options who are not yet eligible for arbitration. None of the aforementioned catchers, of course, would be a centerpiece to the deal but could give the Marlins a near-term replacement while they hope for higher-end talent to emerge from their system.

When and whether anything more significant comes to fruition remains to be seen, but the timing of the report certainly makes sense. Now that Grandal is no longer an option for teams around the league who are in the market for a catcher, the Marlins can legitimately pitch Realmuto as the primary difference-maker available. As shown in MLBTR’s Free Agent Tracker, light-hitting defensive specialist Martin Maldonado is the top remaining free agent. Pirates backstop Francisco Cervelli is an option on the trade market, but he’s earning north of $11MM next season, would be a one-year rental and has some concerning recent issues with concussions.

All six of the rumored suitors have deep farm systems that also feature high-end talent, with each of the bunch possessing multiple prospects currently ranked among the game’s 50 best minor leaguers (per both MLB.com and Fangraphs). However, teams throughout the league are increasingly reluctant to part with top-tier minor league talent — particularly when the prospective trade partner is also seeking a controllable MLB-level asset in return, as the Marlins appear to be doing in Realmuto discussions.

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  1. harmoney101575

    6 years ago

    Bravos give up Camargo, Flowers and low level prospect and call it a day!

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    • RunDMC

      6 years ago

      LOL. Not going to cut it, especially now that there’s no decent alternative available. Camargo is more valuable to ATL than he would be to another club. MIA is seeking reparations from looking silly from the Yelich deal.

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      • harmoney101575

        6 years ago

        you think the braves get him? I hope they dont involve Riley and Anderson

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      • BrewCrew1302

        6 years ago

        Yelich is the reborn christ. Thanks Miami lmao

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        • sufferforsnakes

          6 years ago

          Blasphemous.

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        • downeysoft42

          6 years ago

          Lmaooo^^

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    • SomeATLFan

      6 years ago

      No chance camargo gets dealt.

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      • LH

        6 years ago

        I dont understand this. Every single team in the league would give up a Camargo as a headliner to get Kluber/Bauer/Realmuto but in threads on this site Braves fans repeatedly suggest Atlanta is unwilling to deal Camargo. It really makes them seem so clueless. The Braves signed JD this offseason for crying out loud. They don’t even have a starting spot for Camargo unless they want to bury the former 1-1 from only four years ago on the bench. SMH braves fans. Also, DC is gonna run away with that division.

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        • southi

          6 years ago

          I don’t think that Camargo is untouchable at all, nor is that what the majority of Braves fans are saying. But the braves have a very real plan for Camargo to play a major role on the 2019 team. He may not be the every day starting thirdbaseman anymore, but he is very likely to play 5 or 6 days a week all around the diamond. He will assuredly get starts at 3rd, 2nd and SS. He will probably get some outfield corner time as well. Camargo is starter quality insurance in case any of the infielders get seriously injured. Camargo is also very inexpensive salary wise and controlled for several more seasons.

          Donaldson is only on a one year deal (not to mention his injury history) and Austin Riley isn’t proven yet. It makes very little sense to trade away that type of asset unless the return is significant. The Braves need his skill set.

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        • MLBTRS

          6 years ago

          It’s not as if JD will get 550 AB; Camargo will get plenty of playing time, and not just at 3B. Anyone can go anywhere for the right price, but it’s highly likely that he’ll be on the Braves roster in April.

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        • UGA_Steve

          6 years ago

          It’s posts like this that make you look worse than the Braves fans you are talking down about. Camargo would be starting in LF or RF if the season started tomorrow. Add to that his ability to be a solid +WAR option should JD, Swanson, or Albies go down and his value is very high to the team. In fact, I would say he represents a higher team specific WAR value than Realmuto would represent as an upgrade over Flowers. He might catch a few more games, but McCann will eat into Realmuto’s AB’s, and if you bring those down his counting stats drop, hurting the WAR. The Braves just don’t need Realmuto that badly.

          You also have to realize that he could be the starting 3B next year. Even if Riley beats him out, he might still be the starting RF. Again. No need to move him.

          And this is coming from a guy who thought Camargo would regress big time last year. I have changed my tune because his swing is short and compact and he just doesn’t miss. He just doesn’t hit too many weak balls. Everything is on a line somewhere, and if he continues to build power before age catches up to his bat speed, he could have tremendous upside, especially given his glove is better than anyone the Braves have had since Simmons (and the Braves are a very solid fielding team). His value is greater to the Braves than a near 28-year old catcher not taking roids. That, plus the fact Camargo is an absolute team guy and the energy this young group brings to the whole team every single game has a value that cannot be measured.

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        • Scrooge145th

          6 years ago

          Camargo had 3.7 WAR in his rookie season. He’s would’ve hit around 25 HRs over a full season and played gold glove defense at 3rd. Aside from that he plays 3B, 2B, SS, and can cover 1B and OF. Why would someone give up 5 years of that for 2 years of Realmuto (4.3 WAR) at a much higher annual salary? Makes no sense. Also, mentioning Realmuto and Bauer/Kluber in the same sentence as if they’re comparable is ridiculous.

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        • LH

          6 years ago

          How is that so? I feel that AA would readily include Camargo in a deal for any of the three players, and have noticed that some believe that would be an overpay. Not saying the deals for any of the three players would be the same.

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      • JaysForDays

        6 years ago

        Clearly you don’t know AA… he’ll trade anything not bolted down if he thinks he can win now. Short of Acuna, nothing is off the table in Atlanta.

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        • harmoney101575

          6 years ago

          and freeman

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      • nockahoma

        6 years ago

        Camargo has no position and not future in ATL…they would deal him in half a heart beat and sign Marwin Gonzalez to be the utility man….Especially if Carmargo made up a big part of the deal….

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    • slider32

      6 years ago

      I would think the Marlins would want one of their top pitching prospects for Realmuto, maybe Anderson, Allard, or Wright.

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      • RunDMC

        6 years ago

        I keep seeing on Braves outlets a substantive trade involving Riley, a 2nd tier SP prospect (Allard, Bryse Wilson) and a lower prospect. That was before Grandal’s deal that would possibly boost interest in Realmuto taking away an alternative.

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        • Crazytrain10

          6 years ago

          Yea we do not need JT. So glad it finally pretty much left us out, good for dodgers if they want to give up too much. Camargo isn’t going anywhere unless it was for kluber. In my opinion, that’s the only scenario worth losing him.

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        • beyou02215

          6 years ago

          Carmargo wouldn’t get you anywhere close to Kluber.

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        • SomeATLFan

          6 years ago

          Not camargo alone…but he could easily headline it.

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          No, Camargo is a utility player, and Cleveland would laugh Atlanta out of the room is he was offered as a headliner.

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        • Scrooge145th

          6 years ago

          Camargo is a “utility player” because the Braves’ infield is flush with talent. He’d be a starting 3B, 2B or SS on 25 other teams

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        • Scrooge145th

          6 years ago

          Only Indians hitters with a higher WAR than Camargo were Ramirez and Lindor. Not sure you’re completely informed.

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        • nockahoma

          6 years ago

          no he couldnt….Cleveland demanding a Sale type return for Klubber or Bauer…and mostly rightfully so… both have huge value….

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      • DTD

        6 years ago

        Flowers would obviously be sent in the deal. Camargo, while extremely talented and valuable to ATL, would also go because Donaldson, Riley, and Culbertson can all play 3rd base. Plus, Arenado and Rendon are also a FA next yr and will most likely be on their radar. My guess is it would take those 2 MLB ready players, one of the top 3 pitching prospects, and a mid tier pitching prospect to get a deal done

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    • CubsRebsSaints

      6 years ago

      The headliner being whom? Aging Flowers? Low level prospect? Oh Camacho you say! Ha ha add a top tippy top prospect to your package and flip Flowers to a contender needing a backup. Add another top 20 prospect to Camargo and and top 5. AND!! I that were enough, he’d already be traded.

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      • petfoodfella

        6 years ago

        If it were me, I’d send Flowers, Gohara & Ian Anderson.

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        • detkpd12

          6 years ago

          It will take Camargo or Swanson on top of those you mentioned to even start a conversation with the Marlins

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        • willyg60

          6 years ago

          Gohara is a freaking joke!

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        • doxiedevil

          6 years ago

          I just heard the Marlins laughing

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        • RunDMC

          6 years ago

          Top-100 overall prospect even after a down year which included his father passing away in June 2018. Rumor is he’s down quite a bit of weight and looks great over the winter so far. He wouldn’t be the headliner in a blockbuster but he’d be an incredible secondary piece for a team. Not many times you can get someone like that who many believe has TOR stuff – and just needs some consistency and refinement. There’s a reason he’s gotten so many comparisons to Sabathia – aside from the obvious body-type comparisons.

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        • petfoodfella

          6 years ago

          @DET, yeah, no. Neither of those for 2 years of JT. If so, Atlanta should pass.

          @willyg60, no kidding, that’s why I’d want to trade him. Scouts & office people still love him, so maybe Miami would 😀

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        • sandman12

          6 years ago

          and it’s why Atlanta got him for nothing

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          6 years ago

          Flowers should have been to Jeter after the Yellich trade…

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          6 years ago

          Flowers should have been sent to Jeter after the Yellich trade…

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    • willyg60

      6 years ago

      That won’t get it done Lol

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    • Knowthemarket

      6 years ago

      Normally when someone is getting piled on like this I would leave it alone but neither team would agree to this trade.

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    • mike 96

      6 years ago

      lmao your serious?

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      • PeeWeeGaskins

        6 years ago

        My serious what?

        you’re*

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    • TheShow

      6 years ago

      No way Marlins do that deal. It’s going to take two high level pitching prospects, Pache or Riley with Flowers. I hope AA waits until the price drops. Feel we can get by with Flowers and McCann.

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      • petfoodfella

        6 years ago

        Two high level pitching & a top level position, with Flowers? Come on, it’s 2 years of JT, not 6.

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      • Idosteroids

        6 years ago

        That seems a bit much. So 2 pitchers, either Pache or Riley and Flowers…didnt know we were trading for Kluber…. Marlins are lucky to get 1 pitching prospect(either anderson or Wright) and riley. Also heard Newcombs name was tossed in the hat as well.

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    • Mjm117

      6 years ago

      Ian, Riley, Waters and Flowers for JT should do it.

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      • harmoney101575

        6 years ago

        Why dont u put Acuna and albies also

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      • todd76

        6 years ago

        That’s ridiculous Mjm!

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  2. watford dodger

    6 years ago

    Move along, nothing to see here

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  3. NyHoppz

    6 years ago

    Here we go again, how many more realmuto trade articles will there be before he’s actually traded?

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    • HubcapDiamondStarHalo

      6 years ago

      Seven.

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      • elscorchot

        6 years ago

        Exact? Or, an over under?

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        • Tom E. Snyder

          6 years ago

          Yes.

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    • jjd002

      6 years ago

      Perhaps MLB TRADE RUMORS isn’t for you…

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      • NyHoppz

        6 years ago

        I’m not new to this, I just thought we were past all the hype and 4 articles a day revolving around the same rumors as the day before

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    • canocorn

      6 years ago

      NY;

      As many as it takes. Could go on until trade deadline. But there’ll always be others to follow.

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  4. BobbyJohn

    6 years ago

    Rockies continue to punt the position like it doesn’t matter.

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  5. walls17

    6 years ago

    i wonder why the white sox arent in on him, if they are actually serious of competing. imagine they sign one of harpchado and add another top talent in JT, they still have holes but they would at least be set up for something. they have the prospects, but the marlins will probably ask for Eloy so it probably would go nowhere

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    • PeeWeeGaskins

      6 years ago

      You answered your own question.

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  6. BrewCrew1302

    6 years ago

    someone take him im tired of hearing his name tossed around on every article

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    • Ryan W

      6 years ago

      Now that Grandal is gone, it’s just beginning

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  7. astromariner

    6 years ago

    Realmuto to the Astros for Tucker, Stassi and a flyer prospect.

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    • harmoney101575

      6 years ago

      they aint trading tucker… stassi is garbage

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      • tigerfan1968

        6 years ago

        My problem is not with Tucker but the way the Astros used him last year. There was no danger the Astros would lose their division yet when Tucker struggled down to Triple A he went. Why not play him and get a better picture of what you have with him ? This seems to be year three or four where we still no not have a good enough feel of Tucker’s value. Pitching wins so adding Realmuto to a loaded team like the Astros does not work for me.

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        • Astros44

          6 years ago

          You mustn’t have kept close attention to the AL west last year. Down the stretch posed to be a nervous time for the Astros considering the red hot A’s were right on their tail for the division. He struggled big time, they needed to win, and tucker still needed everyday at bats…thus down he went. If it were anything like 2017 where they won the division at the all star then I would agree with you but last years division title was NOT a given!

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        • tigerfan1968

          6 years ago

          OK, fine how badly was he struggling when he goes back to Triple A . I guess I am saying Astros still do not know who they have with this guy. He gets 64 AB only 13 K 6 BB. I say keep him, bat him 9th, whatever. Look at Jackie Bradley. He does not hit for months, years, We know Marisnick and Tony Kemp are not the answer. Now they feel they have to sign Brantley. Two more years in the minors for Kyle ?

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        • AvidAstrosFan

          6 years ago

          Where do you get 2 years in the minors, Brantley won’t dictate Tucker’s MLB time, Tucker will dictate that with his ability. Tucker will get plenty of opportunities if he is not traded. Remember he was a HS draftee. There is nothing wrong with him getting more time in AAA. Call him up and let him see pitching when needed.

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    • newman2079

      6 years ago

      Tucker and Whitley are both being traded… Realmuto is good but they are asking too much, until they get realistic with their ask, he won’t be moved

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      • astromariner

        6 years ago

        Tucker and Whitley are both being traded? To where? I can see them trading Tucker, but I think Whitley is as close to as an untouchable prospects as there is in the MLB. And they will likely need him for the rotation at some point this year.

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        • asuchrisc

          6 years ago

          With Verlander and Cole set to be FA after next season Whitley is a potential long time rotation piece as long as he develops as planned. He isn’t going anywhere unless Verlander and Cole are locks to re-sign.

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        • newman2079

          6 years ago

          meant NOT being traded… typo

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      • lowtalker1

        6 years ago

        Astros won’t trade those two
        That’s like saying the padres would trade their top two
        Granted two different types and skill levels but astros are built through the draft and the only way for them to control their path, they must retain farm pieces

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        • canocorn

          6 years ago

          Someone will nibble. Someone always does. But don’t overestimate your bait.

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    • slider32

      6 years ago

      The Astros have some of the best prospects and usually are aggressive in this market. If Tucker or Whitley are in the package they will get him.

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        6 years ago

        As a Marlins fan, I agree. In fact, I believe Tucker is who the Marlins are holding out for.

        While Reealmuto is not the likes of Johnny Bench, Gary Carter, Ivan Rodriguez, etc. he is the perfect fit for the Astros, who could make what could be a historical difference for that team, with the talent they already have on their roster, and the ages of them. Realmuto is the perfect fit for them to win another championship or two with this roster.

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        • matt4baseball

          6 years ago

          Disagree, The Rays clearly made the best offer so far with Matt Libratore (LH pitcher #5 prospect, MLB #1 defense catcher Mike Zunino (born in Miami) & OF- Jesus Sanchez BA # 46 top prospect and 2b/OF Nick Solak #8 TB prospect. That covers 1/2 Miami's starting lineup!!

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        • harmoney101575

          6 years ago

          articles out there constantly state that bravos have the strongest offer on the table

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        • Mjm117

          6 years ago

          @matt if Rays offered that, Fish def getting what they wanted.

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        • Mike Picardi

          6 years ago

          If that deal was real it would be done already. No chance that was offered and turned down.

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        • matt4baseball

          6 years ago

          MJM, seems the Marlins are going to wait till the last minute, The Rays deal of Zunino, Libratore, Sanchez and Solak is the only one that offers a top of line MLB experienced catcher to replace Realmuto a Baseball America #40 CF-OF, A 20 year old # 10 -1 round pick start pitcher with 98-100 speed and a 25hr-290 hitter defense specialist in Nick Solak. They will call our FO back soon since we are offering too much.but we have replaceable talent.

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        • AvidAstrosFan

          6 years ago

          While Realmuto is a talent I don’t believe he is the piece that takes the Astros back to the show. Unless he really calls a good game for the pitching Corp, he is just a bat. We have some young pitchers that will need direction and stretched out slowly. Is Realmuto the catcher the Astros need for those young arms? Astros starting rotation isn’t the same as last year.

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        • sandman12

          6 years ago

          Let’s make that Brujan, Fox, Hernandez and Solak.

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    • a-a-a-astros

      6 years ago

      Yes that would work

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  8. friz898

    6 years ago

    So I registered just to ask. Been lurking for years. Are saying we would sign Tyler Flowers and make him all happy only to trade him right away? Then what about McCann? That’s even worse and a hometown hero. Where does JT fit?

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    • astromariner

      6 years ago

      It says “in some cases” a big league-ready catcher. So the Braves may not fit that billing. They could carry 3 catchers. I still don’t like the fit, though.

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      • friz898

        6 years ago

        Could but neither of those 3 are going to be happy as the backup-backup. Unless Brian is just going to be an expensive pinch hitter.

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        • southi

          6 years ago

          Actually McCann signed for an extremely cheap price tag. He is getting paid like a decent hitting bench piece already.

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    • harmoney101575

      6 years ago

      they are obviously interested in getting JT… I think they are the favorites to get him. with that being said, 1 of the catchers has to go and Flowers is more than likely the best vet catcher out of any of the teams mentioned.
      Mccann wont be traded bcuz he is a hometown hero.

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      • virginiascopist

        6 years ago

        I believe, since he was signed as a free agent, McCann is not eligible to be traded, without his permission, until June 15th.

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        • bhambrave

          6 years ago

          I think that’s true of Flowers also, but I’m not sure.

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  9. friz898

    6 years ago

    Did that go through? Consider this a test.

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    • BigFred

      6 years ago

      Don’t mind us. We’re testing our up & downvote capabilities.

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  10. its_happening

    6 years ago

    Braves: We need to address the outfield and pitching.

    Let’s sign a Third Baseman and trade for a Catcher.

    Sounds good.

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    • friz898

      6 years ago

      Trusting Alex based on his rep, besides, Could be Frank Wren into giving Derek Lowe millions.

      But ya, the 3B and now Catcher (after getting McCann) has me confused.

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      • Crazytrain10

        6 years ago

        We aren’t getting JT I refuse to believe that. I’d love to trade for Kyle tucker if indeed the Astros made him available for anything other than C. RF has to be main priority. I’m just as tired of hearing realmuto name as well. Hopefully he goes before arb deadline.

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      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        I’m a Blue Jays fan. AA acquired guys when it wasn’t necessary in Toronto, made some very bold moves that worked out also. There will be some head shaking moments from him, but he will also make some exciting moves as well.

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    • MarlinsFanBase

      6 years ago

      FYI…you signed Josh Donaldson some time ago. I think you have 3B covered. And with McCann at catcher, you’re not in an urgent situation to trade for a catcher either.

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      • DTD

        6 years ago

        McCann and Flowers are on expiring contracts and their best prospect is 2 years away if everything goes perfect for his growth.

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      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        Thank you Captain Obvious. FYI – you’re a step behind Marlin.

        I guess Atlanta can go after Grandal a year from now?

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  11. coldbeer

    6 years ago

    I specifically told ya’ll that JTR wouldn’t be traded until Grandal signed…

    …looks like that was accurate!!

    Again!!!!!

    Lol

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    • elscorchot

      6 years ago

      Want a cookie?

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    • lavey

      6 years ago

      I’d rather have Hedges.

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      • Priggs89

        6 years ago

        You must be a Padres fan.

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          The Padres own all of the real estate in the Land of Confusion (Casey Stern, MLB Network). Preller is clueless and has no direction. He should stick to scouting Latino teenagers. Trying to go after JTR is just another example.

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    • Tom E. Snyder

      6 years ago

      Okay, then who gets him?

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    • Michael Chaney

      6 years ago

      I remember saying that some team would sign some player this offseason. I guess we were both right.

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  12. The Toe

    6 years ago

    Kind of a dumb comment about not wanting Barnhart instead wanting someone pre arbitration elegible. Since he is signed for three years 1st year rookie would be arbitration eligible at the same time the contract is up.

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    • tv 2

      6 years ago

      that’s at 4 to 6 years not 3. not sure how 2x the control is dumb

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  13. chippahawk

    6 years ago

    Braves about to trade away Wainwright 2.0.

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    • petfoodfella

      6 years ago

      Who? As long as they keep Soroka, Wright, TT & Wilson, they’ll be fine.

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      • Crazytrain10

        6 years ago

        I’d rather trade Wright than Anderson. To me Anderson is top P. But I don’t want to trade Soroka either. I could live with any of the others going in the right move.

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      • chippahawk

        6 years ago

        If u remember the Braves traded wainwright away for jd drew? Trades are always easy to look back on and ridicule but that one killed after it was all said and done..

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  14. earmbrister

    6 years ago

    Reds, please say NO THANKS.

    Don’t give up 6 years of an elite prospect, plus a catcher, for 2 years of Realmuto. The Reds need a TOR PITCHER in order to contend, not a position player.

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    • tv 2

      6 years ago

      they just want something to write about. of course we probably checked the price but without much interest. he makes 0 sense. he makes good money and we have pretty good catchers. plus not even close to a big need

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    • sixpacktwo

      6 years ago

      I think if the Reds get Realmuto they flip him for the pitcher they need. Barnhart is not in the trade.

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      • RedRooster

        6 years ago

        NO ONE IS TRADING FOR REALMUTO JUST TO FLIP HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • AllRiseForTheJudge

          6 years ago

          Really? Because the Braves look pretty set at catcher while still having OF needs, and them flipping him to address other areas seems totally plausible.

          Of course, the Braves have such a deep farm system full of much-hyped pitchers that could be used as bait to address those same areas, but that also assumes teams who have what Atlanta needs would be interested in prospects, but then what teams have a need for Realmuto while also NOT having a need for their OFs or OF prospects?

          I would have thought Atlanta would have been in on Puig, but that door closed once it became clear that Matt Kemp had to be part of any deal for him.

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        • RedRooster

          6 years ago

          If ATL trades for JTR it is because they plan to use him. The only way your idea happens is as a 3-team trade with the Marlins getting prospects from the Braves, the Braves getting an outfielder from a third team and the third team getting JTR from the Marlins. AA isn’t going to trade for a declining asset in JTR and just assume that the trade he wants to make will be available unless he intends to use JTR as his catcher.

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        • Cesspoolofdegenerates

          6 years ago

          Dipoto is absolutely maniacal enough.

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        • fox471 Dave

          6 years ago

          Still with the Braves? The Braves are not getting Realmuto. Really!

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  15. pinkerton

    6 years ago

    Padres make the most sense. They’re ramping up.

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    • harmoney101575

      6 years ago

      he is going to the Padres or the Bravos

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    • Yankeepatriot

      6 years ago

      Then trading for realmuto is a waste of their prospects

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      • Wolverines2

        6 years ago

        And they certainly do not need a catcher.

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    • RedRooster

      6 years ago

      Padres make no sense! They already have two quality catchers on the roster and aren’t going to contend during the two years that JTR is under contract!

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      • pads fan1980

        6 years ago

        Only argument against yours is the possibility of an extension once they trade for him. I body knows if the team trading for him plans to extend him.

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        • pads fan1980

          6 years ago

          No body not I

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        • RedRooster

          6 years ago

          Oh, you mean like how they were able to extend Justin Upton and Freddy Galvis after trading for them?

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        • pads fan1980

          6 years ago

          They didn’t plan on extending them. Different time and different team.

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        • RedRooster

          6 years ago

          Yes they did. They said so multiple times. And guess what? It didn’t happen.

          Anyway, if we are so sure the Padres will be able to sign JTR, the smart move is to wait two years, sign him in FA and keep their prospects.

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        • groundhog5150

          6 years ago

          Just playing devils advocate. The only rebuttal I can think of that makes any kind of sense for the Padres to trade for JT now vs taking a FA chance down the road, is that maybe the Padres want him working with the young arms now rather than getting used to them down the road when they should be competitive.
          As a SD fan I’d rather that the Pads sit this one out.

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        • RedRooster

          6 years ago

          1. There’s a very good chance that he’d walk after 2 years and if that happens the Padres wasted prospects and the new catcher has to get used to their pitchers.
          2. The prospects that Realmuto would cost in a trade aren’t the type of thing you give up in order to get a catcher into the organization and used to their pitchers earlier. Especially considering I don’t see Hill doing Preller any favors given their history.

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      • Priggs89

        6 years ago

        Why do Padres fans think Austin Hedges is good? Among the 59 catchers with over 150 plate appearances, he was 28th in wRC+ at 90, he had the 28th best Fangraphs Off rating with a -5.7, he had the 27th best Def rating with a 5.1, and he was 23rd in WAR with a whopping 1.0 for the year.

        If you want to change it to just guys with starter workloads (300+ AB’s), he was bottom 11 (out of 27) in all of those categories. He’s below average at literally everything except pitch framing.

        Somebody please let me know what I’m missing.

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        • RedRooster

          6 years ago

          One of the best if not the best defensive catcher in baseball. That’s why.

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    • SDHotDawg

      6 years ago

      No, the Padres don’t make any sense. Catching is arguably the strongest position in the organization. But with Preller, who knows. I think he’s in over his head.

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  16. dray16

    6 years ago

    Cubs trade Contreras, Heyward and Bryant for Realmuto and sign Machado or Harper.

    Of course I’m kidding, just starting a conversation.

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    • megaj

      6 years ago

      They would take Bryant straight up for him

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    • baseballallyearclub13

      6 years ago

      What…. It is an interesting proposition but Miami doesn’t take that. 4 years of Bryant and Contreras and 5 years of a massive Heyward deal for Realmuto. They would possibly be competitive the last year of that based on their current roster, they are going to be looking for primarily young players that are in the minors or about to get to the bigs. Say the Cubs changed it to Contreras (current for this year), Heyward, Amaya and a young pitcher then maybe Miami is interested. But I don’t see any conceivable way Miami takes on the Heyward contract and gives up JT.

      From the Cubs side, I am not sure how they would feel. They seem cash strapped and it gets rid of the Heyward deal, but a team that is prepared to win now would lose a starting third baseman and replace him with Bote? And while JT is an improvement over Wilson in most areas, he isn’t a massive increase from what I have seen. I think the Cubs would care more about Heyward money being removed than JT being added.

      (I know it was kidding but still interesting to contemplate)

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      • Priggs89

        6 years ago

        I feel like my sarcasm-meter may be broken, so I have to ask – is this a joke?

        You can’t honestly think the Marlins would turn down Bryant/Contreras/Heyward for JTR. And you REALLY can’t think the Marlins would take Contreras/Heyward/Amaya/young pitcher instead. Using that logic, don’t you think the Marlins would just take the first offer (ridiculous offer on the Cubs part) and flip Bryant for a package SIGNIFICANTLY better than Amaya and whatever crappy pitching prospect the Cubs have to offer?

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        • baseballallyearclub13

          6 years ago

          Pitching prospect would be a high end prospect so a Lange or Alzolay or Steele ish type player. I don’t think the Marlins take either deal I think they would start a convo on younger players. I said they would be interested not they would make the deal, it is not enough in my opinion. They want or should be looking for players that will contribute in 3-6 years because that will be around when they are good. They are not going to be competitive now and to get players that help the now wouldn’t work. Bryant is going to test the waters no matter what team he is on in 4 years so it makes no sense for Marlins. Why add a top player for a bad team? He would put some people in the seats but not enough. Doesn’t make baseball sense when you could add multiple players that could actually help bring you a title.

          Sure they could make the trade and get more for Bryant, I was just looking at it in a vacuum of this trade and it being players they planned on keeping not flipping.

          Also saying the Cubs only have crappy pitching prospects is really underselling them. Maybe they don’t have a Keller or Gore or Sheffield but players like Marquez still have a lot of upside.

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  17. Thronson5

    6 years ago

    Would for the Dodgers to get the guy but I just don’t see it.

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    • Thronson5

      6 years ago

      *would love for Dodgers to get the guy but just don’t see it*

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      • Swinging Friars

        6 years ago

        I don’t see how he doesn’t end up with the Dodgers. So much talent to burn there

        Have they given up on that kid they were all excited about before Grandal showed up?

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        • Thronson5

          6 years ago

          I don’t know, I just feel like they have traded a lot of prospects the last few years and are trying to build their farm system back up and also are trying to save some money. I think next off season they’ll spend big and make trades if needed. But they still Ruiz as a prospect at catcher who’s about a year away so I think they may just roll with Barnes for a year until he’s ready and the kids got a ton of talent so if he plays like he does in the minors he will be a star in this league. We shall see I guess.

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  18. tv 2

    6 years ago

    I just can’t see how this would possibly make sense for the Reds. catching is fickle and they are pretty set. for a small market team this is the perfect situation. plus giving prospects is expensive. if they were all in then maybe but they would need an ace plus jt

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  19. ChazB322

    6 years ago

    Reds: Tucker Barnhart, Taylor Trammel, and Vladimir Gutierrez. That should be get it done.

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    • slider32

      6 years ago

      I don’t see the Reds with the best package for Realmuto. The other teams have better prospects right now.

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      • ksoze

        6 years ago

        That’s a crazy offer for only 2 years of Realmuto, and what are you talking about. The Reds have a top 5 farm system.

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  20. Yankeepatriot

    6 years ago

    The list of suitors has shrank since the marlins were taking too long. I bet their fans won’t be pleased with the return. I don’t understand why the pads and reds want him though as he won’t be around for their window’s of contention when they get there

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    • pads fan1980

      6 years ago

      They might be thinking about trying to extend him. Nobody really knows.

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    • sixpacktwo

      6 years ago

      The Reds will flip him for pitching.

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      • RedRooster

        6 years ago

        Nope!

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  21. reflect

    6 years ago

    Are we really back to this again?

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  22. slider32

    6 years ago

    I. think the Marlins need to get 2 top 100 players and another piece for Realmuto, I think one of those top players has to be a pitcher for the Marlins to make a deal. The Braves would have to give them one of Anderson, Wright, or Allard , the Dodgers May and Smith, and the Rays, Baz and Sanchez

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    • Yankeepatriot

      6 years ago

      He has 2 years of control and as such imo you shouldn’t need 2 top 100 prospects for him

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      • Priggs89

        6 years ago

        So he’s not a rental? Yah, they’ll probably get 2 top 100’s if they don’t get any major leaguers back.

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    • Adam6710

      6 years ago

      Clint Frazier, Gary Sanchez, and Albert Abreu.

      Nah, just kidding.

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  23. darkstar61

    6 years ago

    Padres already giving up on the idea Mejia can stay a Catcher, huh?

    That was fast

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    • Yankeepatriot

      6 years ago

      Before they can contend again realmuto will be gone and if they try to flip him back his value will be down by then. Waste of a trade if they acquire him

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    • SDHotDawg

      6 years ago

      Mejia is still just a prospect. Plus, he’s been very vocal about staying at catcher.

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  24. megaj

    6 years ago

    Most of this off-season has been filled with pure speculation, rumor, and wild assumptions. Well, that kind of describes most of the recent off-seasons, but this year the onslaught of daily prediction stories has been especially egregious. However, things are starting to finally materialize and narrow down enough for one to make a somewhat accurate guess of who is going where. Like them or not, the Dodgers have a realistic chance of acquiring both Realmuto and Harper. Add those two guys to the current lineup of Muncy, Turner, Bellinger, Pederson, and a healthy Corey Seager and you have the most solid lineup in the game.

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  25. MarlinsFanBase

    6 years ago

    As a Marlins fan, I’d like to thank the Brewers for signing Grandal. The second that happened, I knew that the Dodgers would up their game in this, resulting in all of the other suitors to up their games. I imagine Mike Hill is letting out a huge sigh of relief. He was starting to look really bad again until the Brewers bailed him out by becoming the team to get Grandal.

    Oh yeah, and I imagine that Boras and Harper are happy too, since they know the Dodgers need to bring it their way too…most likely to secure Harper so they can offer up Verdugo since there is not way they’ll be agreeing to Bellinger in a package.

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    • harmoney101575

      6 years ago

      i dont feel the marlins will value dodgers prospects more than bravos

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      • fox471 Dave

        6 years ago

        Of course they will. Mattingly knows exactly who he wants.

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    • Knowthemarket

      6 years ago

      I think you should hold onto your accolades until after the trade. The article says that the MARLINS ramped things up, not the six suitors.

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  26. beersy

    6 years ago

    The Padres need to remove themselves from these conversations. See what the young pitchers can do this year and then make your “big move”. I would love for them to get in on Arenado, but more likely Rendon next off season.

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    • Wolverines2

      6 years ago

      Either one would be incredible and a much better use of funds than what they did at first base. Very content to let Hedges and Mejia figure it out at catcher this year.

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    • phxfriar

      6 years ago

      I think…(as A.J. would likely start any thoughtful response)…I think, A.J. is simply doing his due diligence with regard to the Marlins Realmuto and league demand for gifted backstops. Naturally A.J. is in on those discussions. He’d be remiss if he wasn’t all over the topic of MLB catchers.

      I agree the Padres should focus on finding a hot corner guy that we haven’t had for sometime and a legit workhorse starter like we haven’t had in a while.

      There’s always a chance the Friars ‘swing’ a deal for Realmuto but it seems unlikely. It only happens if A.J. sees a longer term play in such a move. Trust A.J. to know who, when, for how much/how long and what’s the payoff in the standings.

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      • SDHotDawg

        6 years ago

        “Trust A.J.?”
        Based on what? More than a few times in the last few weeks commenters and analysts on MLB Network have described the Padres as “confused,” “without a plan,” and “lacking direction.” As far as doing anything at the ML level, I consider him an abject failure. Yet his sycophants keep moving the goal posts in his defense.

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    • SDHotDawg

      6 years ago

      I would love to see that move – especially Arenado. But, as somebody else mentioed, Preller’s use of payroll funds points more in the direction of such brilliant contracts as Hosmer, Myers, and the latest, G. Richards.

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  27. detkpd12

    6 years ago

    It would take Flowers, Camargo/Swanson, Ian Anderson, and Gohara/Wright for the Marlins to even consider a deal.

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    • harmoney101575

      6 years ago

      smoking crack rock… no team is offering that much

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        6 years ago

        As a Marlins fan, agreed.

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      • stretch123

        6 years ago

        The Braves will have to overpay to get him since they’re in the same division (and bitter rivals with the Marlins).

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        • MarlinsFanBase

          6 years ago

          Yes, it is true that the Braves will have to overpay, but it won’t be a farm-clearing overpay…especially when they already have McCann which means they’re not desperate.

          As for “bitter rivals”, I’m not sure when the Marlins and Braves have been bitter rivals. In the NL East, Nats, Marlins, Phillies, and Braves fans are rivals, but not bitter with each other. The only team that they all share as bitter rivals are the Mets because of their classless fans and obnoxious beat writers and media. Braves and Marlins bitter? I’ve never seen that in my years as a Marlins fans since the inaugural season in 1993.

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        • stretch123

          6 years ago

          Out of all the teams in the NL east, the Marlins seem to have the toughest time beating the Braves.

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        • formerlyz

          6 years ago

          No matter how good either team is, or how bad either team is, historically there is 1 constant…Braves beat the Marlins

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    • MarlinsFanBase

      6 years ago

      That’s only if Jeter is truly determined to not trade Realmuto within the division.

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    • Zach725

      6 years ago

      That’s a ridiculous offer.

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    • Knowthemarket

      6 years ago

      You’re broken in the head.

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    • todd76

      6 years ago

      detkpd12 keep dreaming.

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  28. steelerbravenation

    6 years ago

    Riley, Allard & Flowers

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    • harmoney101575

      6 years ago

      maybe… still hope they can get it done w/0 Riley though

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      • Crazytrain10

        6 years ago

        The most the Braves would/should give up, flowers/allard/wentz OR Wilson/lesser prospect likely out of top 100. We still have William Contreras who could be ready in 2 years which would be perfect for any stop gap catcher until then.

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        • Knowthemarket

          6 years ago

          On your list you include just one top 100 prospect whi is trending down? If your prospect package doesn’t come out to something that will hurt your feelings a little then you probably haven’t given up enough. Besides, I don’t think quantity of players has much traction in this case.

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  29. rivera42

    6 years ago

    Oh, thank God. Please move him already.

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  30. KingBong

    6 years ago

    I don’t want Realmuto in Atlanta.

    The guy is seriously overrated.

    I’m tired of seeing him treated as if he’s Ivan Rodriguez or Mike Piazza.

    I hope Atlanta drops out of any Realmuto discussions, immediately.

    The guy just isn’t the difference-maker he’s lauded to be.

    If we trade any of our top prospects, it needs to be for an ace or a RF’er.

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    • stretch123

      6 years ago

      It’s unfair to compare him to two hall of fame catchers. He’s an all star. Best catcher in the game today

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      • Braveslifer

        6 years ago

        AA could just be driving up the price too…

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    • MarlinsFanBase

      6 years ago

      Realmuto overrated? Wow! That’s just biased hate there. If this was a fan from another division or the AL who has rarely watched Realmuto, I’d say he needs to see him play more often. But a fan of a division rival to say it, just has the odor of bias or hate.

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    • doxiedevil

      6 years ago

      This fellow Brave fan thinks you are 100% correct.

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  31. steelerbravenation

    6 years ago

    If Floers is not part of the deal & the Braves get Realmuto I wonder if the Rockies would want Flowers and what they would be willing to give up.

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    • Zach725

      6 years ago

      I don’t see why the braves would trade a backup catcher who’s worked with the pitching staff for the last few years. They would just have to go out and sign another one.

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  32. ratfink

    6 years ago

    Astros must have him. Tucker, Chirinos,Marisnick and 2 lower minor leaguers.

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    • Randia

      6 years ago

      That’s a garbage package

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      • rivera42

        6 years ago

        Not with Tucker in there.

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        • stretch123

          6 years ago

          Still garbage package. Tucker, Bryan Abreu, Stassi and Arauz would be a much more likely package. Although I don’t see the Astros giving up Tucker. I could see their final offer being something like Yordan Alvarez, JB Bukaskas, Bryan Abreu and Max Stassi. Which is fair value for JTR Imo

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    • bencole

      6 years ago

      They can’t trade Chirinos until June 15 without his permission

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    • eagle13

      6 years ago

      Tucker, Kemp, stassi, and Barackus makes more sense to me.

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  33. kershawsgrandma22

    6 years ago

    He’s going to the dodgers. Him and Keyshawn were best friends in high school

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    • MarlinsFanBase

      6 years ago

      I don’t know who Keyshawn is, but if you mean Kershaw, I wonder how they were best friends when Kercsaw is 2 years older, and went to high school in Dallas, Texas while Realmuto was in Midwest City, Oklahoma…a whole 210 miles away.

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      • fox471 Dave

        6 years ago

        Mere details.

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  34. terror661

    6 years ago

    Braves or Dodgers. Don’t ask me why. Just my guesses.

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  35. Randia

    6 years ago

    Houston should get him but they won’t pay the price. Dodgers could get him but their prospects are mostly over hyped Cincinatti and San Diego aren’t going to compete in 2 years and Atlanta won’t pay what he’s worth.

    So I don’t see a deal being made yet, not until Houston gets serious.

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    • AvidAstrosFan

      6 years ago

      Haha not until the Marlins get serious… Houston will NOT overpay. That’s the whole reason for the Chirenos move. If the Marlins stand firm on their ask from Houston then they will move on.

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  36. stretch123

    6 years ago

    I think he ends up in a Dodger blue for Verdugo, Will Smith (or Dennis santana) and a lower filler prospect like Ronny Brito or Errol Robinson.

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    • Ryan W

      6 years ago

      With Kemp and Puig out, doubt it’ll be Verdugo

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      • stretch123

        6 years ago

        Unless they go out and sign Harper or a guy like Pollack (who i could totally see singing with LA to shift Bellinger to LF or RF). If the Dodgers were smart, they’d offer Joc Pederson, Keibert Ruiz and Dennis Santana. I think the Marlins would bite on that package… They’d get a proven young power lefty outfield bat, a quality young replacement for JTR in Ruiz, and a power arm that could potentially end up being a No 2/3 type starter for them. Dodgers can afford to let go of Ruiz due to the presence of Will Smith as depth (in case JTR leaves in two years), they can give up on Santana because they’d still have May and Mitchell White, and Joc can expendable in the case they sign another outfielder.

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      • Joe Scuri

        6 years ago

        Ryan, curious what your reasoning is?

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    • Michigan Dodger guy

      6 years ago

      I could see Smith, Verdugo and Brito for JT. That’s plenty. In 2020 they can put Diaz on the bench backing up Realmuto. Then in 2021 Keibert is ready, by then Diego Cartaya is ready for back up and you let JT walk…
      I would like to see LA sign Harper too.

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  37. leftcoaster

    6 years ago

    I wouldn’t trade either Verdugo or Ruiz for Realmuto. Nick Hundley as a stop gap until Ruiz is ready or until a solid catcher becomes available at a discount at the trade deadline.

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    • stretch123

      6 years ago

      Marlins need one of those two to get a deal done.

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      • Knowthemarket

        6 years ago

        I think left is saying it doesnt get done at all when he says use Hundley as a stop gap.

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        • leftcoaster

          6 years ago

          Exactly.

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  38. Garza Nathan

    6 years ago

    Yordan Alvarez, J.B. Bukouskas, Max Stassi and Framber Valdez for J.T. Realmuto.

    This is the best deal I think the Astros could offer and it would be very very hard to match unless you use your top 20 overall prospects

    Jeter is smoking serious crack if he thinks he is getting more because he F’d up on Yelich. He has to get over that

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    • stretch123

      6 years ago

      As a Marlin fan, I would take this deal in a heartbeat if you exchange Josh James for Bukaskas

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      • houston turmoiler

        6 years ago

        as an Astros fan I hope they don’t trade James, especially considering JV, Cole, and McHugh are free agents after the season. He’s not Whitley but he’s another terrific young arm with team control that can help if those guys leave. And he’s already shown he can be a solid bullpen piece for a team with high expectations now. He’s right behind Whitley in terms of future importance for me. I’d rather trade Tucker and keep the young arms if they really want Realmuto. Otherwise let him go somewhere else. James in a deal with Alvarez already in it isn’t something I’m rooting for.

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        • OrangeCrushCity

          6 years ago

          I agree. James is likely the in the Astros rotation this year. I see almost no chance of Luhnow making a deal that includes him. I could see Tucker being the main piece going back to the Marlins.

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      • AvidAstrosFan

        6 years ago

        I bet! That deal laid out is a huge overpay. No way that those two piece are flip flopped. Maybe Josh James and Alvarez but I don’t see Luhnow giving up 3 of his pitchers in a trade for a catcher.

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    • RedRooster

      6 years ago

      Corner OF bats who can’t play defense like Yordan Alvarez aren’t worth much in the current market climate.

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  39. MarlinsFanBase

    6 years ago

    I imagine that the Dodgers are really annoyed today. While the Brewers improved their team, they screwed the Dodgers in 3 of their negotiations (Harper, Kluber, Realmuto, which they need at least 1 and maybe 2 of the 3).

    They have to pay a bit more $$$ to secure Harper in order to make Verdugo available in a couple of trade talks they’re having with the Indians and Marlins for either Kluber or Realmuto.

    Or, if they fail to get Harper signed (or Machado), they have to trade the farm to get both Kluber and Realmuto.

    Now don’t get me wrong. they can win their division without any of these 3 players, but the road to the World Series for a 3rd straight year will be almost impossible with the improvement of the team that they faced last year in the NLCS, and the improvement of other teams that they may have to go through in the postseason.

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  40. leftcoaster

    6 years ago

    You hit the nail on the head Marlins Fan. The Dodgers really don’t need to make any changes to win the NL West. They can afford to wait until the trade deadline and stock up with discounted players at the deadline. IMO it’s not necessary to trade away blue chip prospects to win from April to August.

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    • MarlinsFanBase

      6 years ago

      Yeah, they can win the division as they should be the best NL West team from April through September, but it’s in the postseason where they’ll have their problems again, especially with the teams that they’ll most likely face will be better.

      The moves that are kind of forced by the Brewers signing Grandal, will be about winning in October and November. If they don’t get those moves done, most likely we’ll see another team winning the NL Championship this year (perhaps the Brewers).

      Now the reason that they may need to make the moves for these guys now, is because Harper won’t be available at the deadline like he is now. Kluber most likely won’t be available at the deadline since the Indians will most likely competing for another division title in the AL Central. And there is a very good chance that the Marlins move Realmuto before pitchers and catchers report so they don’t let his value potentially drop.

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      • leftcoaster

        6 years ago

        Other guys will be available. Always are are you don’t have to commit to long term deals to acquire them. The Machado and Darvish trades the last two years are perfect examples. I’d understand trading prospects for Kluber now, but nobody else. Believe me, the Dodgers roster will be stellar going into the playoffs. With respect to the Brewers, without solid starting pitching it’s tough to win in the playoffs. Their cupboard is bare.

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        • mkeyankee

          6 years ago

          Please tell me this is sarcasm. The Brewers are stacked with young starters, have Nelson on the mend and have the best bullpen in mlb. You can state you are unfamiliar with Milwaukee’s pitching and that’s fair but the brightest young GM sure as hell loves his young starting pitching.

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        • leftcoaster

          6 years ago

          Mikey, no sarcasm involved here, you MUST have at least 2 dominant starters to win in the playoffs. I know the Brewers rotation well and Chacin, Nelson, Anderson, Davies, Woodruff, Peralta and Burnes simply wont cut it.

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        • leftcoaster

          6 years ago

          Sorry, meant mkey

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      • leftcoaster

        6 years ago

        The Grandal move was made to help the Brewers win in October and November you say. Well, Grandal was on the Dodgers roster in October and November, 2018 but produced so poorly he was on the bench those months.

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  41. mack22 2

    6 years ago

    I’d give them Barnes

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  42. firstbleed

    6 years ago

    MIA asking for a ML Catcher back in the trade would be a mistake. They’d be better off banking a bunch of high ceiling prospects and signing a spotgap C vs. getting some prospects + an Avg Catcher. I’d go for all upside if I was in MIA.

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    • stretch123

      6 years ago

      I agree with you. Unless that catcher is Francisco Mejia.

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    • RedRooster

      6 years ago

      Nailed it

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  43. KingBong

    6 years ago

    I can’t compare him to two HOF catchers…which is how he’s pushed?

    He is terribly, extremely overrated.

    He may be one of the best receivers in the game, currently, but that isn’t saying much.

    He is overrated.

    Anybody other than Marlins fans know it.

    Is he a 20/20 man? Can he hit 30+ homers?

    What does he does that is so phenomenal?

    Nothing.

    I have no reason to hate on Realmuto, but there’s no way I give a King’s ransom for him.

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  44. RedRooster

    6 years ago

    So I guess Preller has completely given up on Austin Hedges and Frankie Mejia?

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    • Swinging Friars

      6 years ago

      There’s been zero talk of this locally…. SD is being used

      There are so many other teams with just as much talent, that are way more desperate. SD is just being thrown in there to try n find some leverage

      Unless they are taking a bunch of low level youngsters or Wil Myers is involved…. The Padres really don’t fit in this conversation

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      • RedRooster

        6 years ago

        Why would the Marlins be taking Wil Myers (a negative value piece) in a trade of JT Realmuto (one of the strongest trade chips in the game right now)?

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        • Swinging Friars

          6 years ago

          dude, rooster….down boy. I’m trying to agree with you here. Relax, we all now you hate this move

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        • RedRooster

          6 years ago

          Just being realistic. The Padres have to be able to move Myers without eating any of his contract before they can worry about getting someone as valuable as Realmuto in return.

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        • Swinging Friars

          6 years ago

          There has been zero talk of this trade locally. Zero

          If you want to live pissed off over nothing I can’t stop you. It’s clear that common sense won’t help you back away from that cliff so I’ll just leave you be for now on

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        • groundhog5150

          6 years ago

          RR, throwing Meyers in the mix is his way of saying the Padres aren’t in.

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  45. gson

    6 years ago

    Plawecki and Triston McKenzie to the Marlins..
    JT Realmuto to the Indians..

    JT Realmuto is then part of deal to the Braves..

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    • Yankeepatriot

      6 years ago

      Trading him to flip him back is absolutely pointless and I don’t understand why people suggest this

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        6 years ago

        They suggest it because it works on their video games.

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      • Swinging Friars

        6 years ago

        They suggest it because we see it attempted yearly

        Also some people are just trying to throw suggestions out there to try n make sense of it all…

        It’s a rumor site, pretty much the best place for ideas to get thrown against the proverbial wall

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      • sdhitman19

        6 years ago

        I could see the Padres flipping Realmuto for a pitcher like Kluber if they thought the cost for Realmuto was lower than the total
        cost for Kluber.

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        • RedRooster

          6 years ago

          The only way that would work is as a 3-team trade with the Padres getting Kluber, the Indians getting JTR and the Marlins getting prospects and any one team backing out causes the whole trade to fall through. JTR should never be Padres property for even a second.

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    • MarlinsFanBase

      6 years ago

      😀

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    • RedRooster

      6 years ago

      Wouldn’t the Braves just trade for him directly?

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        6 years ago

        Not if you’re on MLB the Show, controlling the Indians.

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      • gson

        6 years ago

        Not if the Marlins want Triston McKenzie

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        • RedRooster

          6 years ago

          Then the Indians wouldn’t trade for JTR they’d make it a 3-way trade and either of the other teams backing out would cause the whole thing to fall through. They are not going to risk getting stuck with a declining asset they don’t actually want.

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        • gson

          6 years ago

          The Marlins trading for a ML catcher and TOR SP, get what they’ve claimed they wanted.

          The Indians can either keep JTR and call it a day…

          or

          ..put together a deal that sees them replace Triston McKenzie with a ML Ready OF (Verdugo), one or two ML Ready Arms and one or two more 50 – 100 mlb level prospects by creating a three team deal between themselves, the Braves and the Dodgers.

          Of course, this would include the Indians including one of Corey Kluber or Trevor Bauer.. The teams involved wouldn’t have inter-division restrictions or financial constraints as trading partners, The financial constraint is something the Indians have to avoid as they are at the top of their salary threshold..

          If looked at as a four team deal, then It’s too complex & virtually unlikely..

          As a simple deal between the Indians and Marlins… doable

          As a simple deal between the Dodgers and the Indians.. doable

          As a simple deal between the Braves and Indians.. doable..

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        • RedRooster

          6 years ago

          No one is trading for Realmuto with the intention of flipping him. Period. Whoever trades for him intends to use him.

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        • Knowthemarket

          6 years ago

          Hmm..I can understand why the Marlins would want McKenzie. Buuuuut, I wonder if the Braves have any top pitching prospects they would trade in order to get JTR and thus make the Indians as a 3 trade partner pointless?

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          Triston Mackenzie is rated #37 MLB prospect.Plawecki a catcher that couldn’t start for the Mets. Why would the Marlins make that trade. Also how is Mackenzie now a TOR starter.I guess being an ace is easy for a minor league prospect

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          Because some people obsess on prospects.

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  46. Tradedafewinmyday

    6 years ago

    The Marlins really like The Dodgers Gavin Lux and the kid they drafted a couple of years ago from Louisville Will Smith…on the playground is where I spent most of my days. Braves fans- do not worry JT is not going to come to the ATL, but I am betting they will be adding an of in the next week. This time of year is so fun!

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    • sandman12

      6 years ago

      Bullseye. Smith, Lux, May and deal.

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  47. brian214

    6 years ago

    Alfaro, Menina, Altherr, and Moniak. I know the Phils weren’t mentioned (although they certainly could use an upgrade at C), but since everybody else is tossing out crap packages then I’ll do the same.

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  48. sandman12

    6 years ago

    The Rays hold the right cards. SS Fox, 2B Brujan or D Lowe, C Hernandez and a 45 level pitcher. Remember, the Marlins need help at every position except 3B (B Anderson).

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  49. antsmith7

    6 years ago

    Dodgers or Astros

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  50. Knowthemarket

    6 years ago

    Any of those six teams could put the package together to get JTR. The sticking point for the Braves, Astros and Dodgers will be major league ready talent. The Marlins asked for Albies from the Braves and if that’s what they mean by major league ready, players already productive at the major league scene then it won’t be a contending team that picks him up.

    Who the Braves won’t offer:

    Riley. I might be wrong about this. If the right offer comes along and one particular player is focused on then no prospect is off limits. However, I think the signing of Donaldson shows the Braves see Riley as the future of 3B and prefer Camargo as the super utility and it really is a great fit. Camargo give the Braves enviable depth because you can give days off to Freemen, Albies, Swanson, Donaldson and maybe even your corner OF’s and still have a quality bat and glove.

    Camargo. Discussed in the Riley portion Camargo is probably a little more valuable to the Braves than the market.

    Really, I think the Braves could potentially use any of the Braves prospects after this. I really don’t want to see Soroka but for JTR I understand why any name would be involved.

    I don’t believe the Braves are the most likely to land JTR anymore. The Braves don’t have the kind of urgency maybe the other teams might feel. Don’t get at all why the Dodgers are listed as the most motivated. Ruiz is really close. But in the end, I just don’t see the Braves interested enough to win a bidding war.

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  51. Michaelchavez22

    6 years ago

    May, Alvarez, Smith/Ruiz and Pederson/Toles for JT. I’m with that and flip the prospects they got from the Reds along with Verdugo for Kluber.

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    • OCTraveler

      6 years ago

      Not bad but you’re leaving the outfield thin unless you sign Harper. If we’re dreaming, I’d really like to get Whit Merifield to play second base

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      • Michaelchavez22

        6 years ago

        All that would have to happen if they plan on signing Harper. Can’t have a small market mentality as a Dodgers FO. They’ve missed WS rings by 1 damn game for two years straight. Stop trying to catch lightening in a bottle!

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  52. sixpacktwo

    6 years ago

    The Reds are only in this picture because of their farm system They have players that work for the marlins. Reds would flip Realmuto for the Pitcher/ CF that they need. Barnhart is going nowhere.

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    • RedRooster

      6 years ago

      No they freaking won’t! Whoever trades for Realmuto is trading for him to use him! Not to flip him! Completely ridiculous that people keep suggesting this.

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      • Iron Horse

        6 years ago

        He’s posted the same thing three times in this thread. Inanity..

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  53. Dodgerfan34

    6 years ago

    Dodgers should trade for this guy but I am not sure if they are willing to deal top prospects for a catcher. The Dodgers have a couple of good catchers who will be up soon (2-3 years?) and giving up alot for JT would be foolish. He would look great in that lineup and they could play him at first, allowing Cody to shift to the OF to replace Puig.

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  54. OCTraveler

    6 years ago

    Realmuto to the Dodgers for Verdugo, Stripling and either Ruiz or Smith – if this is a “no” then go find a left-handed hitting stop gap an platoon him with Barnes

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    • Knowthemarket

      6 years ago

      If I were a Dodger fan, I think I would say no. Verdugo and Ruiz? I think that would be to much for me to swallow.

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      • 22Leo

        6 years ago

        I agree. The Marlins are asking too much for Realmuto. I am happy Grandal is gone and the Dodgares will be fine just getting someone who can actually catch for a year.

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        • OCTraveler

          6 years ago

          LOL – I agree that my offer is too much. I would prefer Tolles going instead of Verdugo or maybe Baez instead of Stripling.

          What I am laughing about is that I posted my exact trade of Verdugo, Stripling and Ruiz previously and all the responses were of the “not enough” variety.

          Just shows why none of us are GM’s.

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    • stretch123

      6 years ago

      Verdugo AND Ruiz is wayyyy too much. One of those guys plus Dennis Santana and another top 10-15 prospect makes more sense.

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    • fox471 Dave

      6 years ago

      Ok.

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    • fox471 Dave

      6 years ago

      No.

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  55. badlyalan05

    6 years ago

    Astros give Bagwell Statue, Biggio HOF Jacket, Jimmy Wynn’s jock strap, can of Rusty Staub’s leftover sunscreen from Colt 45 stadium locker room, Scrap Iron Garner’s spit cup, a “Lima Time” coffee mug, and Tucker (Preston) for JT Realmuto.
    MAKE THE DEAL ALREADY!

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  56. cjuluca

    6 years ago

    Verdugo and Estevez should get it done.

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  57. eagle13

    6 years ago

    Would love to see Astros get JTR, as they then have 6 potential all star position players who should be around for the next 4 years. Resigning Verlander or Cole would be great, but they have several young studs who will join them later this year. Trading Tucker, Stassi, Kemp, and Barackus(spelling?) should make the deal.

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    • AvidAstrosFan

      6 years ago

      Such an overpay…. no way Jose…

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    • badlyalan05

      6 years ago

      Tucker, Stassi, Kemp or Straw. No Buckauskus. Tucker is a big get for Marlins. That’s three opening day starters for Miami with one having future AS potential.

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  58. brandons-3

    6 years ago

    It’s all fascinating. The Marlins know they need to get back a big haul to make up for their shortcomings on the Stanton, Yelich, and Ozuna trades. However, every team knows that and why would they want to be the team that overpaid for Realmuto after other teams stole the three others. Something’ll give eventually and here’s thinking it won’t be in the Marlins favor.

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    • RedRooster

      6 years ago

      What shortcomings? I’ll give you the Yelich trade but they were close to losing Ozuna anyway and getting Stanton’s contract off the books was a blessing in disguise.

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  59. timewalk42

    6 years ago

    Tyler Flowers /Austin Riley/ Ian Anderson 2 top 50s and a incumbent for the top catcher in the league well worth the price if you are in a 4 year competitive window

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  60. Paul Gutierrez

    6 years ago

    dodgers should try to get him…I don’t trust barnes being our main catcher…good defender…offense not so much

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    • 22Leo

      6 years ago

      Just having a catcher who can actually catch the ball is an upgrade over Grandal, who was a platoon defensive liability at best. The Dodgers need another catcher for next season, but it won’t have to be someone that provides offense.

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  61. Joe Scuri

    6 years ago

    Dodgers need to quit tiptoeing around and get this guy. He checks numerous boxes. I like Barnes, but if he’s a necessary part of the package to get this done, do it! Pay the price, LA, you might actually win the WS this time… 30 years and counting. Let’s go!

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    • James1955

      6 years ago

      The Dodgers are not giving up an elite prospect. Ruiz could be up at mid season or in 2020.

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  62. AllRiseForTheJudge

    6 years ago

    Of the six teams reportedly in the mix for JT, who makes the most sense? Even with Puig and a very-much washed up Matt Kemp (let’s be real here, he’s been a slug anywhere but LA), the Reds aren’t JT Realmuto away from competing for the division with Milwaukee, Chicago and even St. Louis, so their interest doesn’t make much short-term sense because, in my opinion, they’re more than 2 years away from even competing for the Wild Card.

    Houston and LA are the obvious fits, but I don’t know what LA has in their system that would be enough to pry JT away from the fish and it looks like Houston won’t even discuss their top 2 prospects. Tampa also isn’t close enough for Realmuto to make sense for them, and the Padres are probably still playing for 3rd place in the NL West even with JT.

    My money’s on AA doing something stupid, but the Dodgers and ‘Stros seem like much better fits.

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  63. RedRooster

    6 years ago

    Padres already have Hedges and Mejia.
    Padres aren’t going to contend in the next 2 years even with Realmuto.
    Realmuto said he isn’t signing an extension.
    Hill would likely demand an extra premium for having to trade with Preller.

    Pass…

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  64. Gocubsgo1986

    6 years ago

    Come on marlins, devastate a teams farm. Especially if it’s the Dodgers.

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    • Yankeepatriot

      6 years ago

      With only 2 years of team control for realmuto that’s will be impossible unless a team is dumb like the d backs are with trades

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  65. OrangeCrushCity

    6 years ago

    Astros giving up Tucker and Stassi? If that doesn’t do it, move on.

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    • Mjm117

      6 years ago

      Nope it won’t be enough

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  66. GarryHarris

    6 years ago

    Wouldn’t the Dodgers almost NEED to acquire JT Realmuto now? They have only a super sub behind the plate now.

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  67. danlwebb5

    6 years ago

    I hope the Dodgers do not make this deal. I’d rather go with Barnes than deal Barnes and their top C prospect.

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    • 22Leo

      6 years ago

      There is no way Friedman would meet the Marlins asking price. For one thing their price is too high,and also Friedman doesn’t care about winning a championship. He only cares bout being perceived as a shrewd businessman. That is where his ego resides.

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  68. Cesspoolofdegenerates

    6 years ago

    Why would I not be surprised if Dipoto somehow trades for Realmuto just for the sake of his rosterbation

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  69. jim stem

    6 years ago

    Yankees deal Andujar, Bird an outfield prospect, international cash and a young arm for Realmuto, Conley and Prado and move Sanchez to full time Dh? Salary dump for Marlins and Jeter might just know people in New York.

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    • Mjm117

      6 years ago

      Andújar, Bird and an OF prospect/ Florial, international $’s, and Loaisiga would def get the Marlins attention for JTR

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  70. RIPprosports

    6 years ago

    Dodgers just roll with Barnes and Smith. No sense to trade the farm for Realmuto for 2 years. If this combo is that horrid come All Star break trade for what you need. Any other catcher available right now isn’t going to be much better.

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  71. AvidAstrosFan

    6 years ago

    Sooo, this is a classic case of Miami posturing! We have 6 clubs who really want this guy! Now who has the highest bid…. blah blah blah… his market is fading because of the asking price.

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    • SDHotDawg

      6 years ago

      Realmuto demanded to be traded LAST offseason, after the Marlins dismantled the team. They may be considering offers only to show JTR that they’re trying, but have no real intention of letting him go unless somebody really knocks their socks off with a deal. Anybody who manages to swing a deal will definitely overpay. If not, I don’t think the Marlins will be too disappointed if they’re “forced” to keep him.

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      • RedRooster

        6 years ago

        Hope they like that comp pick then!

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        • SDHotDawg

          6 years ago

          “Making a decision based on a draft pick isn’t what I consider smart baseball.”

          Giant’s new GM Farhan Zaidi during his introductory presser.

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        • RedRooster

          6 years ago

          imgur.com/gallery/tyTc1Nl

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  72. Padres r knocking on the door

    6 years ago

    I don’t think the Padres want him for themselves. I think they’re just trying to drive the price up on the Dodgers, or keep him out of the NL West altogether.

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    • SDHotDawg

      6 years ago

      I think Preller’s just trying to keep the fan base interested by showing that he’s “in” on every free agent in baseball, even when he has zero intent to make a deal. After all, he can’t be stupid enough to go after Realmuto. Can he?

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  73. Mike Picardi

    6 years ago

    Can someone post a link of that Rays deal you guys keep mentioning, with Liberatore, Sanchez, Zunino, etc.? Because that definitely never happened. And if it did, they would’ve taken it.

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    • Mjm117

      6 years ago

      Couldn’t find anything. Everyone posting BS and have zero real sources to back it up.

      Rays offer Libs, Sanchez as headliners would def get Marlins attention. Rays would be better off to trade Zunino separately tho

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  74. matt4baseball

    6 years ago

    The deal and rumors clearly have merrit. Now that the Dodgers acquired a catcher and are saying they are not interested in Realmuto anymore, This Rays offer might happen soon or maybe Miami is keeping him this year. I’m sure you know that the catcher is the 2nd most important player on the field, and Realmuto is the best hitter/athlete with defense of them all. Sadly, He is worth a big return to them. Miami already asked for M Perez, W Franco and Honeywell and TB said no, Would you prefer that? The above offer has been made and they are considering it compared to the Astros and padres offers.

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  75. Mjm117

    6 years ago

    I don’t disagree with Dodgers for not meeting the Marlins demand. They’ve made it to the World Series with two inconsistent albeit above avg duo of Grandal/Barnes. Friedman believes they can still get by with Martin to partner with Barnes until Ruiz is ready.

    However that is still a risk. Martin batter below the Mendoza line, played 90 games and is 36 yr old. And I actually like Barnes . He should be able to be the main starter and be avg offensively/defensively which is more than enough. But even he carries risks.

    And I love the potential for Ruiz, but at the moment he’s all potential. C position is the most grueling and difficult position in baseball. To have such high expectations from a rookie to carry the load is asking a lot, and also comes with risk that he might not be ready.

    Dodgers are a championship contender as is, however, they should continue to get better, specifically the C position, and put themselves in a better position to win.

    Houston, Braves, Rays, Rockies should do the same.

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  76. DodgerBlueSince82

    6 years ago

    JTR would be a huge upgrade for virtually every team in the league but the Marlins asking price has been and still is absurdly high. I would love to see the Dodgers land him but MIA reportedly wanted Bellinger plus prospects for him. Good luck with that Jeter! I’ve waited 30+ yrs to see another WS brought back to LA but adding JTR doesn’t guarantee anything. I’d rather take my chances with the players we have and wait for the young catchers to make the jump than risk trading away that much talent

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    • matt4baseball

      6 years ago

      You are commenting on a very old thread, This Realmuto trade rumors has been going on too long. Seems the Marlins want to keep him for another year.

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