In a fascinating development, the Mets have agreed to a two-year, $20MM deal with veteran infielder Jed Lowrie, as first reported by Jeff Passan of ESPN.com (Twitter link). The Excel Sports Management client will receive a $5MM signing bonus along with salaries of $6MM and $9MM in the two years of the contract, Jon Heyman of Fancred tweets. The deal also includes a half-million-dollar assignment bonus in the event of a trade.
The Mets previously acquired Robinson Cano to play second base, bumping interesting rookie Jeff McNeil off of the position and into a utility role. With Todd Frazier already in place at third base, J.D. Davis representing another recently acquired corner piece, and youngster Amed Rosario at short, it’s not immediately apparent where Lowrie will fit in.
It could be that future moves will help clarify the situation. Alternatively, the Mets might conceivably utilize Cano and/or Frazier at first base for at least part of the season. Davis and McNeil also represent options in the outfield. It could be, then, that the org will mix and match with the players it has assembled. Lowrie could certainly be moved around the diamond, with the team leaving it to skipper Mickey Callaway to allocate playing time and manage the competing priorities. Regardless, it’ll certainly be interesting to see how things materialize from here.
Lowrie, 34, has played almost exclusively at second base over the past three seasons with the A’s. Before that, however, he had lined up at short for the bulk of his career, while also logging over a thousand innings at the hot corner.
A former first-round draft pick, Lowrie never really stuck with his first team, the Red Sox, but established himself as a solid regular over the 2012-14 campaigns. Things turned south in the two years that followed, though, as Lowrie dealt with injury issues. His 2016 campaign ended with a pair of procedures, one on his foot and the other to address a deviated septum.
Ever since, Lowrie has been a (switch-)hitter reborn. He has posted consecutive 120 OPS+ campaigns, slashing a combined .272/.356/.448 with 37 home runs while compiling 151 walks to go with 228 strikeouts. Meanwhile, he has graded out as an average-to-very good defender, making Lowrie one of the game’s better second baggers for two years running.
Lowrie now becomes the latest player to join his former agent, Brodie Van Wagenen, in Queens. It’s a hefty price tag for a utility player, if that’s how Lowrie is utilized, though odds are the salary will also reflect extensive intended usage, even if it is at multiple positions. Aided by a market chock full of second base options, the Mets will get Lowrie for the same $10MM AAV that MLBTR predicted entering the winter, but for one less guaranteed season than we guessed would be required. It’s a nice price for a player of this quality, even if he is set to turn 35 years old just after the start of the season to come.
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
All the infielders going off the board today.
Marwin G is about all that is left besides Freddy Galvis and Adeiny Hechavarria
There’s this guy Machado you may have heard of…
DJ is still out there
Harrison & Cabrera, too.
True, I forgot about those guys. Hardly anyone mentions them
Jose Lind
And his brothers, Hose B and Hose C.
Michael Martinez is still available.
I just threw up in my mouth
You’re welcome.
And I’m pretty sure Rob Refsnyder.
Sorry to break your heart geejohnny, but he signed with the Diamondbacks just after Thanksgiving.
Is Peter O’Brien still available?
Goodbye Rosario and/or Mr. Toddfather
Toddfather too hard to move? Maybe, surprise, he goes to Brew Crew? We like, a lot?
Who’s gonna take Frazier?
Per an earlier post here, maybe the Mutts will cook up a trade with the Brew Crew? Not sure who the Amazings might want back.
lol
Arguably a lose-lose no matter who the Crew throws in. They don’t need a 3B and probably don’t want to give up pitching or outfielders.
I hear they want Grandal from the brew crew
Frazier? How about Philly? They’re not crazy about Franco any more.
Hard to see Philly making that trade in division, but, if it’s a straight-up contract swap, Tommy Hunter’s due the same amount as the Toddfather.
Todd Frazier to Philadelphia would work because Todd is from Toms River, NJ and once met Derek Jeter after he won the LLWS. In case you didn’t know /s/.
seam;
Perhaps CWS, if they whiff on Manny.
Could move Frazier to a team in need of a stopgap 3rd baseman. teams like the Padres or brewers can maybe see if they could strike a deal. Not sure tho
Frazier in a pitcher friendly park like Petco? I don’t even think the Padres are that stupid.
very true, his health is also a concern. maybe should have thought that through
Padres did trade for Headley last year so they are that stupid
BVW might sway Preller if you throw in a 4A arm. Convince him Corey Oswalt has that Bryan Mitchell like flare to him and he’ll take Frazier off your hands.
Texas Rangers
Goodbye, Rosario? That doesn’t make any sense. Lowrie isn’t taking over short, nor would the Mets be looking to move their 22-year-old future all-star.
Future all star, lol
I believe he’s better than Dansby swanson
That’s not saying much
At Syracuse, perhaps.
It is possible that they could move Rosario for pitching. The Mets #1 prospect, Gimenez, is a shortstop, but I believe he’s only 19. Lowrie or McNeil or Rivera or J.D. Davis or deGrom (LOL, though he did play shortstop in college, as J.D. Davis pitched, but I digress…) or [insert name here] could play until Gimenez is ready.
Any of those guys could play SS if you no longer care about having a SS with any type of defensive capabilities.
Cano to First?
It’s probably more likely that Frazier gets moved to first as a holdover until Alonso is ready.
I agree
Yeah, Alonso is getting lost in this discussion. He’ll be Rhys Hoskins and ready now.
they will send Alonso to minor so they get 1 more year of team control.
Cano is silk for covering three infield positions. (1B, 2B, 3B). But old silk is not as smooth.
We like Frazier for a Brewer or even, an Indian?
I can’t see where Cleveland would need him….or afford him. I don’t expect they’ll be spending those savings they just got in recent trades.
Don’t know Kipnis’s splits but maybe Frazier 3B/Lindor SS/Ramirez 2B against LHP and Ramirez 3B/Lindor SS/Kipnis 2B against RHP? Not a financially appealing deal for CLE and I can’t imagine the Mets getting much back for him..
Don’t think they’d do that to Ramirez again. He said he doesn’t like having to continually change positions.
but why?
Cano McNeil & Lowrie
Good pickup. I really like what the Mets GM has done this off season. On another note there has been all of this talk about the NL east being busy and the Braves haven’t done a thing besides overpay for one year of Donaldson. They better get busy
Last year mlbtr implored the mets to trade their starting staff. Good for siite hits, but not the reality. Mets got off to a hot start but faded. Braves have a bunch of prospects they can bring up.
Prospects exactly!!! Name me any prospect worthy of Degrom, Syndergaard, or Wheeler lmaoo. On paper And potential wise Mets top 4 even with Glass House Matz smacks every other 4 in the NL East
Scherzer//strasburg/corbin better than mets rotation and their offense is better too
Scherzer=Degrom
Strasburg=Thor (neither stay healthy)
Corbin>Wheeler
But they overpaid big on Corbin who will be a .500 pitcher with a 3+ERA.
Why? In the end, this probably wont be good for McNeil
Trade bait ?
Think they were reluctant to include him in the cano trade so I doubt it. This is a confusing signing
Let’s see what shakes out. One thing about the article: Lowrie was always well thought of in Boston but then he couldn’t stay healthy. Once he started to stay on the field, he became a productive player. That said the price was higher than I expected.
Agreed, dewey
My guess is he is optioned back to triple A. And theyll bring him up whenever a guy gets hurt
Lowrie isn’t getting paid for the chance of being optioned to the minors come on lmao. Look at the guys war last year along with his 23 homers and 99 ribs he’s playing on the regular guaranteed
I was talking about McNeil
McNeil is still going to play he’s going to be the Flores but even better with more ab’s and more chances
That’s a bit of a slap in the face after they took forever to bring him up last year, then, when they finally did, he was amazing. They have a similar scenario with Alonso. Dom or McNeil may get some time in the outfield.
Wagon wheel choked an overpaid. In his next move he will sell off something valuable to save,
More for Frazier than McNeil
PLEASE be true.
Lemahieu next for Mets?
Hahaha
Sure. They can flip him to the Nats for Brian Dozier.
I hate you lol
Yanks just signed him
ooooh!
Interesting that Mets signed Jed Lowrie. I’m not sure what the plan is with McNeil, Frazier and Cano. I can’t see them all getting adequate playing time.
McNeil, Nimmo in a trade for Kluber maybe?
Why would the Indians do that.Met fans really have a very inflated value of there players.To them Nimmo an all star and McNeill an up and coming hof
To be fair Nimmo easily could have been an all star this past year. Higher OPS and wRC+ than several all stars
Those two just part of a package.
keep saying that…but at SOME point the Indians gotta quit f*ckin around and find a MLB caliber outfielder. Martin, Naquin, and who? –easily the worst outfield in MLB right now–almost seems like they are tired of just being handed the AL Central and are going to let other teams challenge them this year.
They could just call the Cubs. Happ, Almora, Heyward would all go for either Bauer or Kluber.
They can get a substantially better haul for Kluber without the inclusion of Heyward.
They are better than the over rated kluber.The Indians faced .400 competition in division 76 times last year and Kluber was barely .500 against teams over .500 and in the playoffs over the last 2 years he had an ERA of nearly 10
If not for going 15-3 against the weak sisters in baseball he’d already be exposed
Except he was t an all star…except in your mind.
must be a cubs fan thinking Hayward is tradeable
Except diaper he wasn’t an Allstar. It’s like Mets fans comments, “we almost won the 2015 World Series”.
What don’t you guys get? Almosts don’t count. Do you need to go up to the blackboard and write it 100 times, “Almosts don’t count.”
Mets don’t spend, MichaelYankee tells fans not to buy tickets because the Coupons are pocketing money. Mets do spend, worst move ever. Can’t be worst than that Kei Igawa deal. On a good note, I think the Spankees have learned their lesson with wanting to get every player coming out of Japan.
Hey 86-your name is appropriate given that you’ve been waiting since ‘86. Don’t insult real baseball fans with the “almost” years like 2000 and 2015. And sure the Yankees make mistakes however we’ve never made such a mistake as Bobby Bo who will still be paid for the next 10-12 years.
So get real about mistakes, including the current Cespedes cluster fu-k.
Go back into your hole and get ready for Cano disappointment, coming to flushing very soon.
PS- how much will you piss away on tickets in flushing this coming year?
Frazier cannot be a starter at 3B any longer. He hit 218, and for what he is being paid which is a ridiculous sum of money for a guy that consistently hits below the Mendoza line, and had long stints in 2018 on the disabled list, Frazier’s NY Mets role now is a bat off the bench, and a solid 3B glove man who can come in late in the game, and relieve either McNeil or Lowrie. Lowrie has played 3B before but his defensive stats at 3B suck. He is a good fielder but only at 2B and SS. I have always liked Lowrie but Asdrubal Cabrera would have made more sense as he statistically plays a good 3B but is not so good at 2B, and also sucks at SS, but fields really well 1B. Asdrubal will hit 270, and above but Lowrie only hits around 260. Lowrie has not played a lot of games at 1B either where Cabrera played really well in the short amount of time he spent at 1B for the Mets. Obviously Brodie only likes to sign free agents that were with his former agency. I guess he feels more comfortable with the players he knows like J.T. Realmuto, Cano and Lowrie. The Mets need to have Luis Guillorme learn to play the OF because if he can handle that combined with his really good defensive infield skills he could become a player similar to Freddy Galvis who can play every position with the exception of pitcher and catcher. Guillorme could really help the Mets out as he has a really good OBP throughout his career in the minors. See if Luis can handle the OF, and also see if Kevin Kaczmarski can at least play 2B or 1B. It would make him so much more valuable if he could expand his skill set. Kacz’ OF defensive stats are slightly better than Lagares stats so seeing if he can handle some sort of IF position could really help bring this cat to the Majors.
Nice add!
Well THAT is interesting! WTF are the Mets doing?
I think I’ve figured this one out. You can carry a deeper bullpen and play matchup with your relievers better if the 4 guys you gave in your bench can each play two or three different positions eAch. I guess Todd get some springtime reps behind the plate as well.
Have on your bench, not gave. Sorry
TJ Rivera aint pleased
You bet he isn’t
McNeil is traded…..but for whom???
For a relief pitcher maybe? I dunno. Not too many teams have relievers to spare at the moment.
Padres may be willing to part with Stammen and/or Yates. Not sure if McNeil is passable at 3B but it could be a framework that works for both teams.
I’m guessing a starting pitcher ?
Brewers have a bunch of those who might be equal value for McNeil.
Peralta-McNeil straight up?
Brewers hang up.
I’d rather have McNeil
Brewers to get one of the meta soare infielders ?
So Frazier now becomes the holdover 1B until Alonso is ready?
The UnAmazing Old Mets.
Brodie should get GM of the Year for the simple fact of…
Convincing Wilpons to SPEND!!!
They saved 6 million on Wright and now 10 on this waste of a roster spot….. yeah 4 million is a big reach lol
This move will have something to it……….It’s a chess move
Hold on
Cano, Familia, Ramos not happen in your world?
Sounds like future WS mvps. Time for Mets fans to contain themselves and zip their pants. The last time they were this giddy is last year when the Mets signed Frazier, Bruce and agon. Oh, that didn’t work out.
So the time before that was when they signed Cespedes.
Lollollolll
And you unzip every time you troll. Keep it up, you’re gonna go blind.
Coming from someone who has actually done that I can tell you that you have no hope. Move on king, or a queen will compromise you further.
Get rid of old man Frazier. Why keep a guy who can’t hit his own weight
Because who’s going to take him? Sure $9 million isn’t a lot, but there are other, more useful guys a team can put that $9 million towards.
Half the leagues rebuilding. Send a prospect along with him and it won’t be hard for a team to find an open roster spot.
‘Old man Frazier’ is younger than Cano and Lowrie. Smh
I remember when you guys signed him away from the Yankees. Almost all Mets fans were rejoicing
I actually remember it completely different, everyone I talked to wanted no part in Frazier and preferred moose.
dale;
Put lead spikes on him.
Solid player, hate the double ear flap helmet he uses, i guess cuz injuries happen we have some solid deph
Lol he hits switch, leave the poor guy be with his two flaps
why? how many ear flaps are on your helmet when you play major league baseball?
Very weird landing spot for Jed, considering Jed’s defense is sub-par. Don’t really understand this signing.
Jed’s defense is not subpar.
Apparently you haven’t seen his range
Let me re-phrase “his range is sub-par”.
He was nominated for a gold glove last year, so he was top 3 defensively in the AL to a bunch of people.
I’m not doubting his defensive ability and ability to not commit errors, his range is what I’m referring to.
His range is as good as Cano’s. Haha
His nickname among Oakland fans is “Pasta”
As in … “there’s a sharp liner toward 2nd past a diving Lowrie.”
Enjoy him.
Well, McNeil is still a work in progress but he did make a few amazing plays/catches in the field in the short time he was up. So, his range may be better than Lowrie’s if what you say is true. Also, they just traded for Cano and they still have TJ Rivera, so the picture isn’t clear yet.
NL East is going to be fun to watch this year. should be close competitive baseball night in and night out.
One great benefit of living on the West Coast is being able to watch everything. 4 pm start times back east lead to 7 pm times here.
Frazier to the Brewers? Move Shaw back to second
I can’t imagine the Brewers being interested, McNeil yes, toddo, no
Nice pickup for a team with very little depth.
He’s not depth. Dude’s gonna play every day or he wouldn’t have signed.
Did you misunderstand him?
Not a fan of Frazier. Find someone to trade him To anywhere as a platoon guy just not with Mets. Put McNeil or Lowrie at 3B or 2B make Cano 1B or Lowrie 1B / Cano 2B
Lagares and Cano to the redsox for JBJ.
LOL!
I sense a McNeil trade & Fraizer being attached so as to move said contract coming on.
Can play 3B against righties; 2B against lefties, considering Frazier’s and O’Neill’s handedness. I don’t think there’s necessarily a surplus there, and I definitely don’t think O’Neill will be moved. Lowrie is a Wilmer Flores replacement of sorts.
Well where will McNeil play then? I like the Flores comp but Cano’s got 2B vs. righties and Todd’s got 3B vs. Lefties.
Well, Frazier does have reverse-platoon splits, so maybe he’ll only face righties. That leaves ABs available for Lowrie and O’Neill against lefties but that doesn’t seem ideal
Frazier could do that ur the Mets just teased for JD Davis to do the same thing
Makes no sense unless another trade coming.
No mention of his agent or representative in this article…?
or the name of his wife!
Frazier probably gonna get packaged in a deal with a prospect or two to get a reliever or a positional upgrade?
Never thought I’d say this… Maybe they are following the Brewers example from last year. Load up on infield depth and let the volume of players put up the numbers. At least they can see what sticks. And it isn’t like the Mets infield are iron men in regards to health
Van Wagoneer was Frazier’s agent
Man, the players are signing with all the teams I least expected
McNeil + Rosario to MIA for Realmuto…Lowrie plays Short.
J/k…
They don’t want Lowrie at short, trust me.
Awesome. Three 2nd basemen
Actually 4 if you count TJ Rivera. 5 if Guillorme is brought up to be backup SS.
Yanks just paid more for another 2B, LeMahieu.
If the Mets run off a Machado-Rosario-Lowrie-Cano INF in 2019 then Brodie is a legend.
Please don’t threaten to hold your breath… it isn’t even within a dream.
This makes zero sense. Cornering the market on 2B’s.
Chess move…Hold on
Strange signing there must be a trade coming behind it.
Breaking news- Mets now talking to Cubs. Frazier and Thor for Bryant and Heyward!
fake breaking news
Hey, you have to admit it is plausible. Bad contract for bad contract- Good pitcher for Good position player
Ummm… Bad expiring contract for bad mega-contract and top-tier pitcher with years of control remaining for a top-tier position player with maybe one year of control. No, thank you.
You’re kidding right? Nobody would touch Heyward in a million years. Not plausible at all
replace Frazier with McNeil
McNeil would be even better if those rookie numbers are even close to what he can do for the next few years
If they can unclog the infield logjam, this could be a nice, underrated pickup.
McNeil starts the year at AAA and comes up when first injury hits.
Given the way the last couple of years have gone, having useful players who can come off the bench or come up from the minors is certainly a good idea.
I frankly would have preferred the 10 million per go toward another reliever, but on the whole not a bad move.
And when cano goes down?
The Mets just announced the signing of Asdrubel Cabrera and have traded Syndegaard for Starlin Castro.
Boogaloo… funny!
You get back some of that money by having either McNeil or Rosario spend some time in the minors, to delay their service time.
I’m hearing Frazier at 1st Cano at 2nd Rosario at SS Lowrie at 3rd and OF as McNeil Conforto and Nimmo
What, no Tim Tebow?
He is too busy getting married to Miss Universe
Wait until she finds out he lied about being a big league player with the New York Yankees.
So the 2 defensive cfs both on the bench?
I’m impressed by the Mets, at least they’re trying to be good, unlike under Alderson.
What’s up with all these Mets fans thinking the Brewers would trade for Frazier? No team in baseball would make a trade for him!
I think Brewers fans want him too for some dumb reason
Not true. We want McNeil
Cubs would if it means someone taking on Heyward.
What’s wrong with Frazier? Hawk Harrelson said he was as good as Kris Bryant
CF Nimmo
LF McNeil
2b Cano
RF Conforto
C Ramos
3B Lowrie
1B Frazier
SS Rosario
Not impressive for a team trying to make the post-season. They will be the Orioles in two years.
Troll.
How is that being a troll? Look at what Atlanta, Washington, Milwaukee, the Cubs, St. Louis, Cincinnati, the Dodgers and the Rockies have, then compare them to this Mets lineup. I might also take the Phillies over this. Weak infield, woeful defensive outfield. No depth behind these players when injuries inevitably happen. You realize all those other teams are better, right?
WAS is the only staff that compares to the Mets starters.
The Mets would NEVER have 3 lefties hitting back to back. This lineup construction makes more sense:
1. Nimmo
2. Rosario
3. Cano
4. Ramos
5. Conforto
6. Frazier/Alonso
7. Lowrie
8. McNeil
This is a much more balanced lineup.
I would go
Nimmo
Lowrie
Cano
Ramos
Conforto
Frazier
Mcneil
Rosario
@busta37
You’re right, having Lowrie in the 2 hole makes a lot more sense. Good looking lineup for sure with a lot of bench depth (Broxton/JD.Davis/Blanco/Rajai Davis/Lagares/Rivera). Nice deep bench.
Deep bench with would haves and could haves. In reality depth is like minor league system—pretty thin.
Show me the balanced lineup that protects Cano, dummy Danny. Ramos is not a 4 hole hitter. Please.
Get real and resubmit.
PS-of you move Conforto there Wagon Wheel will have to send him down in June/. The choice is yours
Ramos will have better numbers offensively and defensively than Sanchez this year. Sanchez is gonna come into ST 30 lbs overweight with a nap sack full of Cheetos and Twinkies.
Maybe someone should tell Dom Smith about Sanchez’s Stash bc Dom played better when he was at his Fielder-est.
And Ramos has such great ability? You actually know less then I thought 86. Watch the game. Sanchez had shoulder surgery in the offseason. Under the same injury a met would be on the DL for at least two years. Sanchez sucked it up to play for the team, never revealed the injury as an excuse and then took care of business when the offseason started.
Keep posting 86. I love the opportunity to set you straight!
Better not face any left handed pitching, lol
Why do Met fans keep posting the lineup like its impressive. Cano 20 dingers tops Conforto has some power but hit 248 last year and thats your 3 4..Also other than Conforto Ramos and Rosario your players are out of position or past there prime (Cano)
Mets have one of the best pitching staffs in MLB.
If they play decent defense and run the bases properly, they’ll win games fine with their line-up.
The position player portion of their roster is deep and flexible with almost all able to man multiple positions – opening the door for analytical match-ups, and covering injuries with experienced ML players.
Samuel, One of the best pitching staffs in MLB? They were near the bottom last year with deGrom having a career year. Adding a closer doesnb’t change things when there is nothing to close.
The depth of the position players is weak compared to legitimate playoff contenders. Here is the Mets depth chart not including Lowrie. Go compare that to what last year’s playoff teams had and still have.
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/?c_id=nym
@ Jimsouls;
The Mets staff radically improved as the season went along. Eiland and Callahan reworked most of those pitchers, and it took a little time to take hold.
With a stronger bullpen heading into 2019, they will be an elite corps.
From an article on Eiland in the NY Post the other day by Kevin Kernan:
“Jacob deGrom’s stirring Cy Young season and 1.70 ERA, the overall improvement of the staff, especially the second half by Zack Wheeler (9-1, 1.68 ERA), Noah Syndergaard’s strong September (4-1, 1.73) and Steven Matz reaching 30 starts for the first time, all make Eiland proud of the strides made by his core starters in 2018.
The tough-minded Eiland is going to want more in 2019 after Mets starters posted the sixth-best ERA in the majors at 3.54 in 2018.”
“The depth of the position players is weak compared to legitimate playoff contenders.”
@ Jimsouls;
I wrote a post a week or so ago about how teams are now looking for position starters that can play 2 or more positions. This is due to pitching staffs that used to take 9-10 slots on a 25 man roster now taking 12-13. This means that the FO has to provide their manager with more players that he can mix-and-match during a game – especially in the non-DH NL where pitchers are pinch-hit for. At that point I noted that Depth Charts are helpful for noting who can play where, but in fact have become obsolete in handicapping teams.
All teams are using analytics to help the manager utilize his entire 25 man roster that day. This is the direction MLB has been going in for years now.
Might I add – Depth Charts have always been misused by fans as they will compare categories – infield vs. infield; bullpen vs. bullpen, etc. Unfortunately, those categories don’t compete against one another. Pitchers and defense compete against batters, defense competes against baserunners, etc. Then we have to factor in how the home park plays – amount of fair and foul ball area;, how the ball carries during the day, at night and at different times of the year, etc. Today teams have that data. Fans do not. Managers make moves based on that data – especially since 80% of players are sort of the same in ability, but are good at some things and bad in others.
According to Depth Charts the Rays should not be able to play with the Yankees….but they do. The abilities of the 2 managers have a lot to do with that.
Deep front office with numskull “TC” in charge of matchups. All good.
Hey Samuel’s-How much are you betting that DeGrom will duplicate or improve over 2018?
Silence. Silence. How did I shut this guy up so quickly?
Eiland will have his hands full with the DL this year. Just sayin.
Matz had an up and down year, Wheeler was impressive, obv Degrom was good, Thor was a mixed bag along with stints on DL, and Vargas was a dumpster fire for the most part. But you are a fool or a closet fan boy if you really think the Mets will be at the bottom of the league in pitching. Their Bullpen last year made me miss Aaron Hielman( I didn’t think that was possible) if that gives you any indication of how bad the pen was.
No one said it was murderers row just having fun with it.
Willie Mays, They will be sellers at the trade deadline.
Cano’s slide this year will be precipitous. Just waiting.
Conforto 4th means being sent down on May 1st
Where do you think Ellsbury starts the year Michael Yank my doodle its a dandee? Word? That was an excellent contract! Speaking of injuries, hate to say it but I think Paxton buckles under the big city lights. Laid back Canadian who played in Seattle? Sonny Gray 2.0
We don’t even count Ellsury on the depth chart. There are 5 other outfielders, al of who, are superior to anyone in the flushing toilet.
Speaking of body breaking down, enjoy calculating the DL time for PED Cano who’s body has been breaking down for years. When he can’t get a ball up the middle, where do you go, Robbie Cano.
Obviously Brodie is thinking…I don’t know what the hell he’s thinking.
Another phenomenal signing by Brodie Van Wagenen.
I am surprised be only got 2/$20m the 2 aint surprising at 34 yrs old but only $10m is less than i would have expected, i thought 2/$30m minimum.
Like I said, another great move by Brodie Van Wagenen.
It’s cute how mutt fans are anyways so happy with deals where they think they saved money.
Just like their sleazy owner, lol.
Try actually getting the best players for once.
Go suck your boyfriends salty nuts.
boo;
Let the guy have his moment.
He’s proud of the deal he got on a used car, and you’re sayin’ it’s not as nice as your Porsche.
It’s not enough to be driving a Porsche, you’ve gotta gloat about being smarter, more industrious or luckier.
There are many ways to win.
Let the baby have his bottle.
PS: Danny; How do you know they’re salty?
Danny is driving an old VW beetle.
If you give him a debit card for some
gas he will be ahead of the game. MacDonalds pay for senior burger flippers needs to be improved. Let’s write our congressmen so that he gets a raise.
His posts are insightful. Working the graveyard shift in Ozone Park, Danny has lots of time on his hands.
Wow.
You should take your grandmothers girdle off….it’s cutting off circulation and causing even more incoherent behavior.
The worst organization in all of baseball please trade Rosario off this horrible team Mets
Good idea KMFN—no kid should have to play for such a pathetic soap opera.
Are the Mets the oldest team in MLB?
You misspelled dumbest.
Scott;
Yes. Mets is short for Methuselahs.
If you count all of the deranged Mets fans who have been waiting until 1986 (hahahaha) then they are ten years older. Figure that many of these dopes are starting to wonder if they will ever see a world championship again?
Very simple… Frazier becomes the backup 1B/3B. Lowrie will handle 3rd.
So they both are playing out of position!
slider32, McNeil also out of position in the outfield.
That is the Mets way. Wait til cano hobbles off the field early in the season with an oblique injury. Catches up with Cespedes and they form a Long Island golf association. Sweet Robby smiling. Get the picture.
Trade Frazier for anything you can get. Hell trade him and Bobby Bo’s contract together to the Dodgers it seems they will take anyone.
dalejr. Huh? The Dodgers have a solid roster and aren’t in need of many moves, save for a stopgap catcher to share times with Barnes. You think a smart exec like Friedman is going to take crappy Mets players. There is not roster space.
BVW’s line was “remove the ifs”.
If Alonso doesn’t step up to MLB, Cano plays 1B.
If McNeil can’t repeat 2018, Lowrie is there.
If Frazier falls off further, McNeil or Lowrie to 3B.
Similarly, Broxton is for the if (when) Lagares gets hurt.
I’m not saying I agree…just that it fits a pattern.
But what about the pitching? We’re still short 1 good pen arm IF Diaz or Familia gets hurt…
No wonder you are in exile in LA. “We’re” really embarrassed to be your neighbors…are you nuts? You are short on baseball acumen and long on testosterone. I hope that you have already ordered a 6 month supply of anti depressant medicine from Caremark.
But, Mets are cheap!! They don’t sign anyone!! Fire the Wilpons!!!!
That’s all I’ve heard. I guess Mets fans never heard of the A’s, Rays, Marlins, or Pirates.
They are probably the most active team this year even though their record says they should be rebuilding.
They are cheap moron.
You compare them to the Ray’s, as and pirates? Lol
Go look at those teams revenues, they cant spend that much.
The mutts can, and choose not to, big difference.
Yes, I compared the Mets to two other baseball teams, that is the sport we’re talking about, correct?
Their payrolls have always been well over 100M, just because they aren’t in the ballpark of the Yanks/Sox/Dodgers now doesn’t make them cheap. I don’t think they’ve had any trouble keeping homegrown guys around throughout the years, They gave Cespedes tons of money that he didn’t deserve and I’m sure fans would have been upset had we went elsewhere. But they’re cheap, they should just forget about Cespedes failing and sign Harper and Machado. That always works out.
The small market Mets. Coming in July: top prospect Tim Tebow.
Cespedes carried them to a World Series after he arrived in 2015. He needed to be resigned. They were just too cheap and brought in (and then again) Bruce. The injuries you can’t get around. No one really can predict when a player is going to get hurt
Bully for them, they gave out a big contract. Should happen more than once a decade.
And the Mutts are much closer to the yanks and dodgers thsn they are too the Ray’s and as.
Yet they spend like they aren’t.
Cheapskates, always looking for a bargain to fool naive fans.
@Boogaloo
Stop bullying fans. You’re nothing but an internet troll & bully. You get off of making others miserable. One day, one of these fans are going to find you and give you exactly what you’re asking for. Just like the song says, what goes around comes back around.
Hey Hole: while you are at it, they threw lots of money at Bobby Bo and mo Vaughn as well. Fans don’t want owners occasionally on a spree passing away money. That is always offset with droughts. What is needed is consistent investment which the Mets normally target at a second tier city rate. Don’t debate it or it will show your reading comprehension.
The small brain Mets fans who defend them….
Hey Danny…we are not making other fans miserable. We’re having fun holding Mets fans accountable when they act so irrationally.
Nothing clones back around for the Mets. It’s a straight line of mediocrity for over 30 years with owners who steal from the fans. Their organization is unquestionably the most incompetent franchise over that period.
It’s time to get realistic. Supporting your team is admirable, however blind loyalty has manifested with some of your buddies as belligerence.
how about they just sign every other free agent
Gotta love it. We also have a surplus now of young under control in the IF that could be used to get a whale in the rotation, sliding the back of the rotation into bullpen depth.
I swear, mutt fans are so delusional its comical.
What is this surplus of young, controllable infielders that is going to net you a whale in the rotation?
Unless you mean netting bartolo colon?
Boogaloo, Those young and controllable infielders are Cano, Lowrie and Frazier. Didn’t you know that 36, 35 and 32 are the new 26, 25 and 22? The Mets are in complete control of those three until their contracts run out because no one else wants them, The franchise is on its way to becoming the new Orioles. BVW? What does he care? He’ll go to back to being an agent and make considerably more than what the Mets are paying him for a job no smart exec will want.
Hey unless they can flip Cano to the President so he can lead the Souter he border patrol. He can have an SUV so that he can cover the field given his limited range these days. Also he can pop PED’s with no problem because there are no drug tests in the DHLS.
“Unless you mean netting bartolo colon?”
No net could handle the mass.
this move makes no sense
I am waiting for the Cody Allen and Vidal Nuno signings.
Allen because of Mickey Calloway, and Nuno because you can never have enough of lefty relievers on minor league contracts with invites to spring training in camp.
You do have too many when most of them can’t make it out of the 2nd week of spring training.
You win with good players and Jed is a good player. He carried the A’s the first half last year and had lesser results the second half in spite of similar hard hit balls. Very glad he got a 2 year contract at a decent $. A gain for the Mets in this one.
Typical Mets fan invoking the team stat, “hard hit balls”. Speak straight mpmks, he had a good first half and it was offset with a lousy second half. Enough said.
How about Nimmo and Frazier to Cleveland for Bauer.
Mets rotation : deGrom,Syn,Bauer,Matz and Wheeler.
Broxton cf,McNeil Lf, Cano 2b, Ramos c, Conforto rf, Alonso 1b, Lowrie 3b and Rosario ss
jvent, classic sports talk radio trade. Why would Cleveland make that trade? Nimmo is a fourth outfielder on a good team and Frazier would have no place to play.
Nimmo’s a 4th OFer? Yeah, ok…
On a good team, yes No one would trade an all-star pitcher for him..
What teams have 3 OFers who put up better numbers than Nimmo did last year?
Nimmo was 6th among all major league OFers in wRC+ and 8th in fWAR but yeah those are the typical output you can expect from 4th OFers I guess.
People around baseball expect his numbers to go down, including the 47 RBI. He is not highly regarded and wouldn’t fetch much in a trade.
Bauer is EXTREMELY overrated. Would rather have Nimmo on my roster than him.
Hey Jim, you are ripping into the soul of jerk. He has pencilled him in for the ASG and mvp next season. What a Bummer.
“Bauer is EXTREMELY overrated.“
Not if you can keep him from playing ‘Game of Drones’.
(… cost his team a championship!)
Nimmo doesn’t want to be on the Mets roster though. Now what do you do Danny?
Throw in Vargas and lagares and see if they’ll give you jose ramirez too.
For 2/20 should have got Moose
But where would they play him? He has much less versatility and they would definitely have had to trade Frazier. What the Mets should really do is spend like a big market team and get Bryce Harper. Then they’d win the NL East for sure.
That a great signing. A good switch hitter that can play multiple positions. I’m not worried right now about where he will play, just happy he’s on the roster.
If the Mets can find a suitor for Frazier it would be addition by subtraction. The guy is hard to watch. McNeil at 1b until Alonso is ready, cano, Rosario and Lowrie is a pretty well balanced lineup and substantially better without Frazier in it
Execs and scouts of other teams watch plenty of baseball. They know Frazier is hard to watch and want no part of him. Do you think other teams sit around wondering how they could help the Mets get rid of bad contracts?
Well if execs watch lots of baseball, then why do you think they sign on the dotted line with ridiculous dollar and excessive “year” contracts for players well past their prime that achieved for other teams.
There’s always a team willing to bet that a player can “do it” for their team and coaches if given the right circumstances and Frazier is one of those types of players!
You may think he’s hard to watch and don’t want any part of him buts that you’re opinion and probably not shared by the actual people that potentially would pay a guy like Frazier’s salary!
Another team is not paying Frazier’s salary. The Mets are. And since no one else seems to want him, the Mets will continue to pay him. They overestimated his value, just like they’re doing with Lowrie. I;m not one of those who genuflects at the thought of Billy Beane, but the guy is a sharp baseball exec. Don’t you find it interesting that the A’s wanted no part of bringing Lowrie back?
They did. They got outbid.
“Low and away. Cano swing and a miss. Next pitch. Same place. Cano hits a weak ground ball double play..inning over”
Hey Hee…if Frazier was hard to match last season just buckle your seat belt and get ready for watching Cano age. It won’t be gentle, it will be painful. He was a great second baseman. He is clearly on the downside of his career, and his skills are wording at an accelerated rate. Compounded into this formula is a need for PED’s…without them his body will start breaking down more regularly.
Might want to start considering life afterwards…it’s coming faster than you can expect.
I like the moves that Brodie has been making but was mad that 1 of those trades last week giving up Adam hill and valerio. I just felt like those 2 had potential, they were young and grant it they were in low ball but oh well. Now with the Jed signing, is he going to trade a infielder now cause he has a lot of players or is someone getting sent down before the season starts? Plus they still need a solid reliever and I suppose this signing will be his “BIG” bat signing!!! Let’s go Mets 2019
Lowrie had a year similar to Matt Kemp. Two players getting up in their mid-thirties who had strong first halves, but wilted after the all-star break due to father time catching up with them. Both are also poor defensively, which is probably worse for Lowrie considering the infield positions he is expected to play. Lowrie is coming off a career year that was front-loaded. Splits: .357/.492/.849 before the break;’ .347/.380.727 after. His last two years are his only full seasons with an OPS greater than .800 (.808/.801) with a downward spiral as 2018 wore on.,
If the Mets don’t contend, they are basically giving Lowrie $20 million to ride out his age 35 and 36 years. The second year of the deal will make it difficult to trade him should the Mets decide to become sellers at the trade deadline. They made a lose-lose deal for a guy whose skills are rapidly diminishing. It’s like going out and signing Todd Frazier’s twin. The only way they get something for either is if they are a throw-in along with someone really good.
Matt Kemp is an outfielder as opposed to a guy who can play second, short, and third. Value at the position he plays. You’re lost man
Your lost man. His range has diminished. He will play well in the field if they can shift a 5th player into the infield. Last years bad contract is criticized…this year’s idolized. This is the Mets way.
thecrown24. Reading comprehension., I mentioned the difference in positions. I also mentioned it is worse for Lowrie because his weak defensive will be more difficult to hide. He absolutely cannot play SS. His range is limited at 2B as it is.
This move makes no sense? They might as well deal McNeil and make Lowrie to UTIL. I don’t see where they have a problem with McNeil
Confused on this signing, good older player but I don’t see an everyday spot for him
Lowrie and McNeil cover a lot of positions just as Flores, Cabrera and Reyes had. This is a great insurance move if Alonso isn’t quite ready or Cano shifts to first. I don’t think Frazier is going anywhere until his contract runs out unless it’s a salary dump. Mets are in win now mode and stockpiling mlb depth knowing no one plays 162 games anymore. Plus with inter league games, lots of games for dh’s. McNeil and Lowrie will see slot of time at 3b when Frazier is cold. These moves aren’t sexy but will give Calloway a lot of match up options, depth and double switches. Bullpen is shaping up nicely as is rotation depth. Who leads off, Conforto? Right now, probably Nimmo. This lineup is getting deep.
Well said. And with four guys on the bench, and three can play two or three positions including the outfield, plus the backup catcher, then Mickey can carry a 13 man bullpen and mix and match until he gets to Diaz. And yes, nobody plays 162 anymore and there is always TJ Rivera and Dom Smith waiting in AAA.
Nimmo will probably lead off, he leans into a pitch every other game so you know he’ll get on base.
I thought the Mets’ middle IF is a strength; they must be going to trade one of their IFs.
Odds that the Mets lead the league in DL days? Pollack would fit nicely there!
There are no odds on this…Vegas had 1-1 odds that the Mets lead the league in DL days.
Frazier might be a good fit for the Angels, specially in the Mets eat some money
I agree. If the Mets paid at least $3 million of his final year and were able to get a prospect like Jose Suarez in return, that would make a lot of sense for both teams.
Don’t get the Mets. A bit like the Padres from a few years ago. How did that work out?
This comment makes zero sense. There are no similarities between the two.
Both are National League teams with vowels in their names.
Haha!!!
Not a bad couple years from guy many had written off not that long ago
Yesterday I implored the Wagon Train to keep going, but this deal doesn’t make sense to me. And I don’t think teams that change 50% of their starting lineup ever do very well.
Is he now making changes just to be making changes? A team has to be thought out and constructed not just a mish mash of talent.
This is real baseball not fantasy.
Oh we’re gave you gone Frank Cashen?
Bench Frazier play Jed. That’s how he fits. He immediately makes the team better. Idk if people are noticing, but the Mets are piecing together a pretty solid team. Phillies potentially have also. While the braves are not doing a ton. We need some bullpen help for starters plus some other stuff
If this was going to be their move I think I think I would have rather seen marwin Gonzalez come over instead of lowrie.
You would rather a far inferior player?
This signing came out of left field, especially after procuring Cano and still having Frazier, Rosario, and McNeil on the roster, I’d suspect there’s another move in the making, and if not, then the Mets are extending that budget a bit further which is good to see.
For a few million more per year, they probably could’ve had Pollack considering his options have shrunk.
It’s going to be an interesting season for the Mets.
McNeil can play a Corner OF position if need be.
Mariners – Met trade Idea:
Mariners get: Jeff Mcneil, Todd Frazier, and Jason Vargas
Mets get: Mike Leake and Kyle Seager (Maybe a little cash too)
My goodness….. the Mets’ offense is old, haha. The Mets are a mess. Remind me of the Phillies a few years ago when they had the aging offense of Rollins, Howard, Utley, Ruiz, and Byrd. 5 dudes in their starting lineup aged 34 or older. That was 2014…. the phils finished 73-89…… That record sounds about right for the 2019 Mets.
So they paired their always injured rotation with an aging offense….. smart, haha.
METS HAVE TO BE THE DUMBEST TEAM IN BASEBALL…… their offense will be receiving Social Security Checks on top of their salaries LMAOOOO
Rosario, Conforto,, Nimmo and Alonso are young.
McNeil still has options and this signing gives a lot of depth to this team. Instead of Reyes, Flores and Cabrera they now have Lowrie, McNeil. Frazier sits against righties. With so many games with the dh, no matter who they start will be better than last season. McNeil, Frazier and Lowrie will start 4 games a week, more as the season goes on. Cano will bounce between 2b and 1b, depending on how his legs feel. Lowrie starts at 2b or ss against lefties, especially if there is an off day following for Cano. If Rosario needs a day off, it’s Lowrie. McNeil and Lowrie give great depth for late inning double switches. They will all get 500 at bats except Frazier who will see more pine when he’s cold. Good move.
Lowrie is not the type of player to warrant a press conference lol
Before last year the dude never hit more than 16 homers… double digit homers only 4 times his whole career. He is avg. at best! that had to be the stupidest signing all season LMAO
Probably gonna hit 240 with 16 homers LMAO
GOOD JOB METS!
He had 49 Doubles in 2017.
Back to back .800 OPS seasons is pretty good, with 86 doubles
People can hate on him all they want. This is a super utiliity guy that has spent a good chunk of his career hitting in the 2 and 3 spots.
He’s had his best 2 seasons back to back in terms of WAR at 3.6 and 4.9. He’s projected to be a 2 WAR player next season which he could easily pass.
Even if he is a 2 WAR player, its a nice signing and gives them some infield flexibility. Let the trolls, troll.
10 mil on a back up!!!! LMAO he will never have 20 homers again LMao… THE METS PAID FOR LAST YEARS PRD. Most of his #s tailed off after july LMAO
Past two years he had a 4 + WAR in each season. How is he a backup? #facts
He’s a bumb… cant last a whole season… eont hit over 15 homers…. has no speed… limited range defensively… he is a bumb
The Mets are starting to form a much more balanced lineup then in years past. They usually have a few good players up top but the bottom half are automatic outs most years. This lineup looks much better, especially if Cespedes can get healthy and some of their younger bats can take a step forward. I’d still like to see them go sign Pollock to keep him from the Phils and sure up that outfield, especially until/if Cespedes can return.
I feel like the Mets are waiting to make one more move until they see what the Phillies pull off and what they need to match/exceed them, but I think that’s the wrong mentality. Get Pollock, sure up the roster, don’t worry about what the Phillies are doing. The Mets have a real opportunity to make this a very difficult season even if/when the Phillies sign Harper or Machado. The Mets rotation is still on another level and their bullpen is pretty shutdown after adding Diaz. The lineups are getting closer and closer to even. I’m not a Mets fan, but I’m pulling for them to make one more mid-sized move to bring this thing together in the OF.
Great signing. The old GM would have overpaid a guy like this for at least four years instead of just two. Progress. The NL DL will be his home sooner than later.
Let’s go Mets
If Brodie Van Wagenen can sign AJ Pollock to a 1 yr pillow contract, the Mets would be stacked.
With Pollock, the Mets lineup would be incredibly balanced:
1. Nimmo
2. Lowrie
3. Cano
4. Pollock
5. Conforto
6. Ramos
7. McNeil/Frazier/Alonso
8. Rosario
How many MLB teams can say they have a cleanup hitter capable of hitting 30 homeruns & stealing 20 bases???
Really hoping this happens.