The Mets have numerous top trade chips on the market right now, including marquee offseason acquisition Edwin Diaz. The talented young closer remains highly valuable despite his 4.95 ERA, though it’s likewise true that there’s little chance the Mets would be able to recoup what they gave up to get him over the winter. Beyond the fact that Diaz is now just months away from arbitration, the Mets simply paid a hefty fee for Diaz at the outset. In addition to parting with rising prospects Jarred Kelenic and Justin Dunn, the club took on $64MM in new salary (after netting out the cash and salaries exchanged).
While that’s a particularly painful price in retrospect, the New York organization must now think primarily about what it wants its roster and payroll to look like moving forward. The latest on Diaz and the rest of the closer market:
- Despite Diaz’s struggles in the earned-run department, there’s “significant” demand for his services, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports (subscription link). At present, the Dodgers, Rays, Braves, and Padres are teams with active interest. Several of those teams have been linked clearly to Diaz of late.
- While Rosenthal had also listed the Red Sox, who were connected yesterday to Diaz by ESPN.com’s Buster Olney, it seems that possibility has already fizzed. That match “remains unlikely,” Alex Speier of the Boston Globe reports on Twitter. MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand adds Raisel Iglesias of the Reds and Shane Greene of the Tigers as other top relievers unlikely to end up in Boston. (Twitter link.) The Braves, on the other hand, do indeed still seem to be in pursuit of Diaz. Per MLB.com’s Mark Bowman, via Twitter, the Mets have continued to examine the Atlanta farm. From the Braves’ side, it seems Diaz is the top target, with starters Noah Syndergaard and Zack Wheeler of ongoing but lesser interest.
- If there’s a clear alternative to Diaz, it’s ace Pirates reliever Felipe Vazquez. The high-octane lefty has hit another gear in 2019, with 14.1 K/9 against 2.3 BB/9 to go with his shiny 1.87 ERA on the season. We’ve seen him connected recently to the Dodgers, but there’s no indication the sides have momentum. Indeed, Rosenthal adds (in the above-linked column) that the Bucs are putting such a high price on Vazquez that he “essentially is not available.” That may be a bargaining ploy to see if a rival comes forward with a monster offer, but it’s certainly understandable that the Pirates aren’t just putting Vazquez up for auction. Rosenthal cites anonymous front office opinion that the Pittsburgh roster doesn’t have enough to compete in the near-term to justify keeping an asset such as Vazquez. That may well be the case, but it doesn’t mean the club should sell him short — particularly after seeing what the M’s were able to pry from the Mets for Diaz last winter.
The Mets can keep all their players – their asking prices have been absurd…
There is no need for the Pirates to move Vasquez unless they are offered a franchise altering deal in return. They have inexpensive control over an elite closer for over 4 more years still. If they are not offered a deal that they can’t refuse, no sense letting him go now for peanuts when they can do that for 4 more off seasons and 4 more trade deadlines. Not a killer to hold on to him if other teams are being cheap.
Not sure if I’m on board with a struggling Diaz but I’m guessing the Braves are also thinking long term here since they’d control him for quite some time.
Think Swarzak. The Braves see something in Diaz and know what he can do when he is right. He would be a huge get for us. I’m thinking him and Wheeler for Wright, Allard, Wentz and Demeritte gets it done. Big price from us, but we keep the top 3 while getting significantly better this year. I’d hey want one of those 3 I’d move on.
Highly unlikely Mets and Braves do any deal.
“Rosenthal cites anonymous front office opinion that the Pittsburgh roster doesn’t have enough to compete in the near-term to justify keeping an asset such as Vazquez.”
But trading him for an inadequate package….and WORLD SERIES here we come!!!
Have been listening to the Pkttsburgn morning drive and the mid morning/mid afternoon shows on the local big sports station. Most are parroting what Rosenthal is saying. They need to just trade him just to trade him cause they don’t need him. They mid morning show brought on their usual Tuesday guest host from their TV station and he was saying what we have been saying that they need to keep asking for the world because Vasquez does have so much value. Of course one of the usual hosts keeps whining that they just have to trade him now no matter what the return is. smh….I am now dumber for having listed to these long, rambling rants…..
Well that just makes so much sense!
*sarcasm*
Smh…doing anything just to do it is a fool’s errand. Especially when dealing with valuables.
Well, like @forwhomjoshbelltolls has said, the local media just loves to bash the Pirates and they want Vasquez to be traded for peanuts so they have some new ammo to bash the Pirates.
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Oh Them good ol’ days
how many of these trades do you think we see again?
Trade market been so slow.. makes you wonder if tomorrow will be pure chaos or if nothing much happens.
It’s really due to a lack of impact rentals. Teams don’t want to give up top prospects and teams don’t want to trade away impact players with multiple years of control without top prospects.
Not much, other than a lot of BS.
I don’t believe that Diaz is going anywhere. They would be selling low in a suppressed market, ironically, that BVW helped create with his low purchase price of Stroman.
It kills me the Padres keep coming up as a team interested in buying. Other than a starting, young, controllable P like Thor, where it would help them in 2020 and beyond, one has to think these “interest” rumors are just the selling team(s) floating it out there to scare other other teams into overbidding since the Padres minor league system is stacked,
Cooperstown just came out with an announcement today, they are building a new Core Fore Hall of Fame Statues for next April, Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Cy Young, and Felipe Vazquez. Really looking forward to the new display!
*thud*
… the sound of that joke falling flat.
No more jokes….. stick to being bad at fantasy football
Syndegaard, Diaz, Ramos & Cano for Stripling, Will Smith, May & Pollock
“click”
Interesting idea but I don’t think the dodgers want to give up will smith or take on that much $
I just don’t see this. The Cano contract is toxic–exactly what the LAD have worked hard to avoid the past 4 years. I do think that Friedman would deal Smith and Strip. Given the obvious importance Friedman places on young premium pitching prospects, I don’t see May being dealt. Josiah Gray, Santana and Mitchell White I can see–not May. I think Joc could go in a deal and he would probably be more attractive to the Mets than AJ anyway. AJ is a better CF right now than Joc and this will matter a great deal to Friedman.
Friedman will not take a veteran position player unless they are cheap and fit a need off the bench. See David Freese.
Let me see…Syndergaard and his dwindling trade value along with Diaz…both combined with 2 Mets contractual mistakes for a deal that nets them good prospects?
One thought…HA!
It’s always funny how Mets fans drink the Mets Kool-Aid, then when it makes them have a tummy ache, they think they should offer it to fans of other teams who know better than to drink that Kool-Aid that the Wilpons, Mets PR Department, Mets beat writers, and the NY media serve up.
lol…..I want some of what you are smoking!
If you put a better prospect in for Stripling……then I could see the Mets doing it, but as it stands…they would need to take Cano’s entire contract and event then…meh. If they added Lux instead of Pollock, then I don’t care what the Mets pay on Cano…lol.
It looks like what you’re smoking is more potent.
My sources are telling me that the Pirates plan to keep Vasquez and stretch him out in their rotation…
Your sources the same as Rosenthal’s ? 🙂
Diaz for benintendi straight up swap
I’ve thought that would be a good trade that would help each team. I also proposed a week ago Iglesias and Puig for Bene and a couple of Sox prospects.
Bene is a tough kid to give up but you need to trade someone good so both teams benefit.
Bene, Barnes and Dalbec to NY for Diaz, Conforto and Fraser or some combo of talent.
Bene, Barnes and Dalbec to Cincy for Iggy, Puig and a prospect.
As a Reds fan, I would like to see Iglesias and Winker go to the Sox in exchange for Benintendi and prospects. Brings the hometown boy back and puts butts in seats.
If im the Pirates i want C/3B Will Smith and P Julio Urias/P Dustin May. Two of those three have to be in this deal if im dealing Felipe. Im sorry but C Keibert Ruiz seems to be vastly overrated with below average stats the last few years so id be weary and avoid him. 2B Gavin Lux would be nice but the Bucs already have Newman, Tucker, and Frazier to man the infield. Also would need a decent hitting OF like DJ Peters/Zach Reks, another decent Pitcher like Marshall Kasowski/Jordan Sheffield or if the Bucs are lucky Caleb Ferguson. Also id try to throw something else in the Dodgers would like so we could get P Yimi Garcia
Would love to see a trade with Detroit to help the Rotation, Bullpen and Outfield/Bench. More specifically, Mathew Boyd, Shane Greene and Niko Goodrum (Fulmer too while he has little value) could be acquired for a bevy of prospect pitchers. Offer the Gwinnett Rotation: Wright, Allard, Ynoa, Wilson and Toussaint and a couple relievers Winkler and Parsons. That is a seven for four deal with Detroit getting four to five MLB ready starters (they will never be for the Braves). This add a nice lefty controllable starter to the Braves, probable the #1 or #2. Adds a solid reliever who could have saved yesterday’s game from the Nats. Adds a up and coming outfielder/infielder ready for prime time and brings Michael Fulmer to the Braves to rehab for 2020 and Beyond.
Pirates Club has enough to compete. They just need the starters to not give up 10 runs in the second inning.
they’re runs/game isn’t near the bottom of the pack, if they had semi quality pitching they’d still be in the race for the NL central.
What do they do about that is the question.. where are you going to find semi-quality starters? That’s the question.
Pirates have basically floated Vázquez for package built around Keibert Ruiz won’t get a deal done. A Vazquez for Gavin Lux gets the deal done. Dodgers envision Lux replacing Corey Seager in the near future. Potentially before Seager hits FA after 2021. I agree with the Dodgers stance, Lux is too valuable of a player and it makes sense to shop elsewhere. I’d be calling the Reds on Amir Garrett.
While I agree with your final assessment, I have to disagree on the Lux/Seager point. Lux will be an average MLB 2B- he lacks the range and arm to play SS. It’s his bat that they have fallen in love with and combined with his age, he is damn near untouchable. They are certainly not going to deal him for a closer. I could see a Syndergaard/Diaz trade involving Lux, Strip, Joc or other prospects; but, Lux will not be dealt for a closer.
He likely will. At the end of the day Friedman knows he doesn’t need the bat more than he needs an elite high leverage arm. He really needs two of them. Right now it’s about extracting as much value out of Lux as possible.
Re the NY Mets –
“Is this anyway to run an airline?”
Thanks Jeff for the very current and comprehensive article.
As far as the relief market and, more specifically the LAD are concerned, I believe that Andrew Friedman is not going to pay the price Huntington is demanding for Vazquez. Likewise, I also sense that given their history on the guy, the Reds will place too high a price on Iglesias. Boston and the Cubs are much more likely to overpay than Anthopoulos or AF. Giles is now dinged and so I’m thinking the likely addition for the LAD will be from: Shane Greene, Givens, Elias, Buck Farmer or Kennedy. Perhaps two of the above? Edwin Diaz is an interesting wildcard. Van Wagenen is as unpredictable as a rabid and cornered cat. Given his overpay for Diaz a year ago he is also unlikely to be able to accept a reasonable offer given the current performance level
I would like to see them buy low on Diaz
So you can fire Dave Roberts for Diaz blowing games 5 and 7?
lol
The Mets aren’t going to sell Diaz low though. Every indication is the Mets are looking for a package based closer to what he did last year. Is that realistic…I don’t know, it’d likely take a perfect storm of events. It’s definitely a tall ask, but Diaz’s underlying numbers are more promising, his upside is high, and he has 3 years of control left. The Mets likely pull him back unless they can get a Lux type player or two quality prospects and some lottos tickets.
Lux just isn’t happening, unless its something super crazy and Thor is in there.
I agree with that. An expanded deal involving Syndergaard, Diaz, Lux, Stripling, Will Smith and prospects in the LAD 7-20 range would not surprise me.
I also have a sense that Joc is moved in the next day. Might not be to the Mets; but, I think Friedman would flip him for a more controllable piece. Perhaps to the Braves.
…and that should be expected. Lux is a stud prospect who is still rising. He’s a guy (along with Gore) that is worth Syn + Diaz for a package back.
BVW should just hold onto Diaz for the rest of the season and hope that he can rebuild some of his value, because if dealt today, there’s no way he’ll get back what he gave up to get him and Cano; even by himself.
Anybody else hear something bout The Rockies sending McGee, Orberg & Gray to Braves for Pache ???
I don’t know if somebody is messing with me or if it’s true I can’t find anything but he is not somebody that usually plays like that. He is in Atlanta & said he heard it on the radio down there.
This thread shows the difference between the logic of Mets fans in contrast to everyone else. Pirates fans know the value of their commodity. Mets fans think Syndergaard has the same value he had a year ago, before his injury.
FYI to Mets fans – Syndergaard’s value has dropped and is spiraling downward. The Mets are clearly trying to unload him while they can still salvage a prized return.. If they don’t get a deal done because no team meets their demands, they will be gambling on him getting injured again or declining further along with his dwindling trade value. If that happens, a year from now, they’ll still end up trading him for a whole lot less than they can get now. Keep thinking that the Mets are in the driver’s seat. Other teams are checking in now to see what they can get him for, with the hopes that for the right price, they can get a low-risk/high-reward type of deal. If the Mets turn their demands into a high risk proposition, teams will look elsewhere.
This is Noah Syndergaard – not Scherzer, Kershaw, Verlander, or even deGrom.
If you’re so confident in Syndergaard’s tarde value, do offer him to the Marlins along with Wheeler and then Cano and his contract for Wei Yin Chen and Martin Prado with their contracts. The Marlins would reject that trade in a heartbeat because Syndergaard is not worth taking on Cano’s contract in exchange for taking off Chen and Prado’s contracts. With the same trade type, but with the other pitchers I mentioned, the Marlins do it.
That’s how far Sundergaard’s trade value has dropped from where it was a year ago.
The problem with the fans in Queens is they know Syndergaard is still a good pitcher but, they would rather get a couple of garbage prospects from almost any team then getting two good prospects from the Yankees. Pretty much the same thinking as the ownership. Unless the Wilpon’s sell that franchise they are not going anywhere anytime soon.
See, the thing is that’s what Mets fans may see in him, but fans everywhere else see a guy that has been overhyped for the very little and short term success he’s had, has been injured, and does not look good right now…even fans of teams within the division that see the Mets regularly, see things this way. Why would a team trade an insane package when this is what is seen by those other front offices and their fans? Any team that trades a truckload of talent will be taking a major gamble that would get people fired if Syndergaard doesn’t work out. It’s better to let the Mets front office take the risk of getting stuck with him and having to explain why they didn’t trade him when he doesn’t bounce back or gets injured again.
2015-2018….Syndergaard has the 4th best ERA in the majors. Kershaw, deGrom, and Scherzer are in front of him…and EVERYONE else is behind that group. He is having a down year, but his numbers are of a top 5-10 starter. He isn’t going to get moved for scraps. 2.3yrs of control is max control for a guy of his caliber. The dumpster fire ownership and their in-fighting is stupid, but hopefully not stupid enough to move him for .50 on the dollar.
Enjoy keeping him. See what you get next year when his trade value is even lower than it is now.
Don’t you get it. His value is not what it was a year ago. He’s been injured and pitched like trash. You are not getting what you would’ve gotten a year ago. And if this downward spiral continues, a year from now, you are getting even less.
Thor looked pretty damn good today so if he reestablishes himself as a top 10 type starter he isn’t losing any value.
Yes, because one start against a mediocre team that rarely sees him solves everything.
I love the “reestablishes himself” part. Yeah, I wonder how many pitchers that has been said about in the history of the game. I wonder of those, how many were able to do that. Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, Josh Johnson, Matt Harvey, Dontrelle Willis, Craig Swan, Ubaldo Jimenez…and the beat goes on and on and on and on to the break o’ dawn…
Im 100% sure that the Padres are not interested in the horrible closer, Diaz. Even if they do trade Yates, Munoz is still waiting on the wings to follow him up.
Iglesias won’t come cheap.
if you are really looking for a closer, vazques is the solution no diaz, the mets what they are doing is dropping the garbage so that another team grabs it. Vazques right now is better than diaz
I don’t think the Dodgers will trade Lux or May. They would move Ruiz or Connor Wong, Edwin Rios, perhaps another couple of prospects like Jeter Downs or Tony Gonsolin, of course, not all of them in one deal, but I also have a strong feeling that Joc Pederson is going somewhere. He’s not in today’s lineup, and while that may be for not running out the groundout in the 8th yesterday. I think it’s more that he’s going to be traded before the deadline. I have felt this way for the past few weeks because Verdugo has more upside for the Dodgers. Pederson is still good for 25-plus homers and is a decent outfielder for somebody, just not the Dodgers. If you team ends up with Pederson, I hope he is given a chance to excel in the outfield. He needs to take time in the off season and 2020 Spring Training to properly learn first base.
Pederson has been the odd man out for a couple of years now and especially this year with the Pollock signing and Verdugo’s presence. The problem is finding a team that needs an outfielder (nobody else is going to ask him to play first, that’s for sure) with his last year of arbitration coming up. With Taylor and Hernandez both out though I think the Dodgers hang onto him, at least until the offseason, when the trading is easier. This seems like an almost impossible time to move him.
I think they should send Diaz to the minors to get his confidence back. Too much pressure now on this kid.
Ruiz, May, Kasowski, Gonsolin for Vasquez. Yeah it’s a lot but Ruiz is now a luxury to keep with Smith promoted. May is key to this trade. Pirates don’t need Lux, if Huntington is serious about wanting Lux, fire him now!! Vasquez not a rental(4 plus years), at his peak, roll the dice or watch the window slowly close. Kasowski candidate to close in a year or so, Hanrahan for Melancon, Melancon for Vasquez, Vasquez for Kasowski.
Atlanta GM will do nothing will come out with the same promises last year and nothing will There is no solid rotation, only an eternal prospect like Julio Teheran who has been in the braves for years and it was about time that he was the team’s AS and is still an eternal prospect a Fried and Soroka who are still young and in these two is that this GM has to look for 2 solid SP no toark that is a mediocre .. could not grab Bauer, let alone Stroman that is a failure In the end nothing will be done, it will come up with the excuse that nobody wanted to change and we will continue with a rotation nothing big and when we enter the playoffs a team will come like Dodgers or Cubs or Stl and they will give us 3 kicks and goodbye to 2019. I’ve seen this movie for years nothing will be great … until you don’t think big we won’t be world champions again