10:42pm: The Red Sox haven’t made any progress toward a Price trade, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports. The Padres are among the teams they’ve talked to about Price, per Rosenthal.
6:21pm: Even though he’s coming off an injury-laden season and is still owed a significant amount of money, Red Sox left-hander David Price has garnered trade interest from “multiple teams,” Jeff Passan of ESPN tweets.
This isn’t the first time the 34-year-old Price has been in the news this week. His seven-year, $217MM contract, once a record for a pitcher, was toppled by the seven-year, $245MM pact Stephen Strasburg signed with the Nationals on Monday. The Price deal hasn’t fully worked out to the Red Sox’s liking thus far, though he did help the team to a World Series victory in 2018.
More recently, Price put up a decent but unspectacular 4.28 ERA during a 107 1/3-inning 2019 campaign that ended without a playoff berth for the Red Sox. Price made only two starts beyond July as he dealt with arm problems, posted a career-low 92 mph average fastball velocity (down from 92.7 the prior year), and saw his season come to an official end in late September when he underwent minor elbow surgery.
Although last season wasn’t a banner year for the former ace, Price did log an above-average 3.62 FIP with 10.73 K/9 against 2.68 BB/9. Most clubs would sign up for those numbers, albeit at a far more reasonable price than the $96MM Price is owed over the next three years. The Red Sox seem likely to move on from Price if they can get a major portion of that money off their books, as they – led by new chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom – work to get under the $208MM luxury tax in 2020. However, it’s going to be difficult, and as Passan notes, jettisoning Price could require eating some of his salary and/or adding a valuable player to the package to convince a team to take him.
Padres need to do this!
Rangers! Price, Minor, Lynn…damn!
Pirates
Awesome….in 2015
Myers for Price
Myers for Price saves the Red Sox $18mill AAV towards the luxury tax and gives the Padres a 2-2.5 fWAR pitcher for a net cost of $28.5mill over 3 years. Win-win deal.
Minutes later the Sox would announce Myers is on the trade block
Maybe they can trade him for Dee Gordon?
Win/win
Why would Seattle do that? They would be taking on around 80 million in salary for a player probably already in his decline and possibly useless by the time they’re ready to contend.
To be loved.
Also Wil Myers is 29. He isn’t “in decline”. He just isn’t very good and it would only cost Seattle $57.5 mill.
But it would open up 2b for Shed Long.
He was talking about Gordon
Myers plays for San Diego
Myers is 30 now Ketch
Myers is owned 61 MM for the next 3 years, the Sox are trying to cut (significant) salary.
The Sox would be better off sending Price and 12-14 MM in each of the 2021 and 2022 seasons to Texas (eating 25-30% of his contract) for a single A prospect than paying Myers 61 MM over the next three years.
They could save 32MM of payroll in 2020 and reset the luxury tax penalties.
Unless the Padres would be willing to take ALL of Price’s Salary AND pay for ALL of Myers salary in 2020 AND sent a decent prospect, I don’t see a deal happening that included Myers.
But, they may take that ‘Texas’ deal and trade a nothing prospect for Price & cash.
That makes zero sense.
1 trade you said Sox he 10+ mill trade price to raise rangers for a nothing prospect.
2and you said trade price to the padres for myers and prospect. You want the Padres to pay for all of price, all of Myers and give a prospect.
In this case why wouldn’t the Padres just do the trade you said the you’d do with the rangers??
What are you stupid? Bosox would eat some of prices contract and take on all of Myers’s contract
The luxury tax goes by average annual value (aav) instead of yearly salary. The Red Sox would save significantly in a price for Myers trade. I’m too lazy to look up the numbers but I believe it’s something like $17 mil.
“What are you stupid? Bosox would eat some of prices contract and take on all of Myers’s contract”
This is 100% false. The Padres want Price and need to get rid of Myers.
The Sox can use Price and have no interest in Myers.
There is a zero percent chance of the Sox taking on Myers full contract AND paying down the Price contract. Unless the Padres are including Yates and something else.
I want the Padres to pay all of Myers in 2020, the Sox would pay all of Myers in 2021 and 2022 (a total of $41 MM)..
$41 MM (Myers contract in 2021 & 2022) is more than $24-$28 (the amount the Sox would send the Rangers in the other hypothetical trade),
Myers might be worth $3 MM per season.
So, taking on Myers has created $6 MM ($41 MM – $35 MM) in negative value, thus a prospect would need to be added.
On the surface, that’s a bargain for SD. Take a bit of a bump to the payroll for a
better ROI even if Price declines.
@surefirewinners
What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
The Wil Myers contract has greater vlaue to the Red Sox in that the AAV is only $13.75 million, saving the Sox $17.25 million toward getting under the luxury tax threshold.,
To match or make it work send Myers or Hosmer back to offset some salary but send several prospects to re-stock the Sox farm. Pads get the vet they need to stabilize the rotation. Yeah Price isnt what he used to be but neither was David Wells when he joined the Pads and added depth to a Peavy lead rotation. Paddack/Lamet could develop more surrounded by a vet in the rotation.
Hosmer is too expensive for too long.
Myers would need money attached as well as a couple pitching prospects.
That would work Myers and two pitching prospects
Hosmers contract was front loaded, last 3 years are 13M
“Hosmer is too expensive for too long”
He’s owed $103 million over the next six years. Price is owed $96 million over the next three. Hosmer is almost half of Price’s cost on AAV.
@rct – exactly the problem. Boston has 2 young corner infielders almost mlb ready with superior power to hosmer. They’ll also make league minimum.
Hosmer has too many years left, too much overall money, for a position boston doesn’t need anyone to fill.
Price is an above league average starter who is overpaid by about 8m/yr over the next 3 years.
Red Sox don’t have any pitching prospects to surrender, though. That is a THIN farm system.
The Red Sox didn’t want Hosmer when he was a FA and they don’t want him now, either. He’s still got 6 friggin’ years left on that deal. No thanks.
Myers, Gore and Patino. I’m sold.
Honestly, if I was GM of Boston, I would Myers and Jorge Ona.
Sti, who wants Horner? Not Boston!
13M is too much for Hosmer today let alone back end.
Did you not read the article? They are wanting to shed $$$. Not take back loser contracts that are still owed a ton of $$$. NOBODY WANTS HOSMER OR MYERS.
Myers for Price saves the Red Sox $19m a year against the luxury tax. Not sure why some people cannot understand why that works out for the Red Sox.
Padres throw in a mid tier prospect and this should be as good as done.
The Sox could absorb Myers contract and the Pads would still be paying the difference and reducing the Sox payroll.
Yes, Myers deal is back loaded, so his luxury tax hit is less than his actual pay the next 3 years
Red Sox will want pitching prospects like Patino and more for Price
LOL, good luck with that.
Yeah, that’s not going to happen. Price does not have any value. The Sox will have to pay another team just to get him off their hands or absorb a bad contract.
@99socalfrc
Isn’t the lux tax hit based off the aav and not the yearly numbers?
That’s what he’s saying.
Dennis Eckersley loves him
Hosmer would cost $11 million less against the luxury tax. Do you not realize how expensive Price is? Or how old, declining, and injury-riddled he is? If they want to get under the luxury tax, they will need to get creative and potentially take in bad deals.
I wouldn’t be against a Hosmer for Price swap
Typical Yankee dimwit response
Hahaha you might get the 30th best prospect + Myers for price. Patino? No chance
Myers is the new Ellsbury.
Price for Pomeranz. Bad contract for bad contract.
Yeah and I want $50,000,000 for my 2007 Volkswagen Passat.
Omg you guys are baked!
Hosmer is terrible. Red Sox would be better served just keeping Price if that was the best they could do.
I’ve been saying it for a while. Hosmer fills a position currently needed and you reset the threshold now. Not sure why everyone is worried about blocking prospects. Both could end up great but neither is a sure all star. Would expect young talent in Addison to Hosmer going to Boston in such a trade.
Hosmer had 164 hits in 2019, and 163 strikeouts.
He makes 21m per year in 2020, 2021, and 2022 before making 13m per year in 2023, 2024, and 2025.
He posted sub-replacement level production in 2019 being worth negative war, and, that wasn’t an aberration for the last couple years.
Myers is bad. Hosmer is worse.
Hosmer might end up having a negative career. He’s in my opinion the most overrated player of his generation. He wasnt even all that great in KC. But ya know…rah rah cool hair camera lights as are on!
Hosmers no trade clause says no
Didn’t realize he had one. Thanks.
Have you lost your mind?
@towinagain
You’re acting as if Price ISN’T 34, ISN’T coming off an injury shortened season, DIDN’T post a 4.28 (more respectful 3.62 FIP) and ISN’T owed 96 thru his age 37 season. On field battle, Price wins. He’s certainly better at pitching than Myers is at hitting/fielding.
I seriously doubt the Sox would even want Myers. He’s bound to take up space for someone better but I don’t see the Sox getting a couple of top prospects back unless they eat a chunk of money.
How about Robbie Cano for Price? Sox could use a 2bman/dh more than scrub Myers. mets could kick in a bit of salary too.
No chance on Cano. He’s running on fumes and STILL has 4 years left on his deal. This is another example where the Red Sox would just be better off hanging onto Price.
Gag me!!!!
Lol, Red Sox fans think the Padres are googley-eyed about Price. He’s a shell of his former self. He would add an Extra $9m per year to Myers. And somehow the Padres need to include prospects?? Not to mention… in terms of payroll trimming, Boston is in a Much greater position of need with the luxury tax looming.
How is price a “shell of his former self”?
Please look at how he compares to his peers (era+) and what his neutral performance evaluaton (fip) say.
Then try to justify that comment.
Shell of his former self doesn’t mean he doesn’t have some value, or isn’t ok next to his peers.
It means he’s nowhere near as good as he used to be, which is very true, since he used to be awesome and now is merely average.
Let’s see. He went from between a 2.30-3.40 era in his prime years, now a good year is 3.40 and last year was 4.28.
Between 2 of his past 3 seasons he has averaged 90 IP.
He is 34 and not getting younger.
And he’s making more than our Manny Machado per season, in which fans here already have reservations on big contracts.
Can you see why this makes no sense for San Diego to give up what you want for Price?
Why? They are not going to contend for a few more years at the rate Preller is going. So why pick up Price. Would be a better move for the Dodgers.
Furthermore, who else would you want to mentor Gore as he transitions onto the rotation? Price would be an excellent mentor.
Price could be a good pickup for SD at the right price, though the last thing I’d want him to do is “mentor” anyone, having rubbed so many in and around Boston the wrong way.
Corey Kluber
Twins
I like Price, but he’s not exactly my idea of an “impact” pitcher.
Biggest impact arm unless you expect them to get Cole. MadBum will be a bust and Ryu won’t leave the west coast.
@DTD_ATL
Why won’t Ryu leave the West Coast? Because it’s closer to South Korea? That’s not exactly a weekend trip. My guess is that Ryu will be looking to cash out on what will likely be his last big payday.
He can be. I want him stay, he stepped it up unselfishly, n the RS won the WS. He is worth it. Price had arm/hand injuries over some time, but he finally
was cheered at Fenway. Deservedly so.
Twins make sense for many reasons.
Yup, Twins don’t have a lefty and they don’t have a #1. Not sure Price is a 1 these days, and the contract is a potential problem for those thrifty Twins. But it is a good thought. I actually could see a deal between Boston and Minn, as they are unified in wanting to take down the evil empire. Just not sure Price is a Yankee killer with that rightie lineup.
They actually do have a lefty – Devin Smeltzer. A rookie last year so obviously not as experienced but he did a decent job and has a lot of upside. I just don’t like the idea of giving up any starting players or taking on salary to get a guy on the decline.
Smeltzer is a lefty, but a young soft thrower and unproven. Twins have had #5 type lefty soft throwers in Scott Diamond and Tommy Milone in recent past, and haven’t had a nasty lefty beast in a long time… Johan Santana and first year F Liriano come to mind as the last of them…Price still has swing and miss stuff. Boston would have to eat a bit of salary, but it could work. Nick Gordon for 2B in Boston?
Cardinals could actually have a shot at this. Would be a good fit…
If that dumb Angels reddit theory comes together today, ill eat an angels hat.
Wasn’t dumb. They’re all realistic. Send a vid of you eating the hat?
Angels basically getting 2 Dylan Bundys if it happens. Its dumb. I will if it happens.
I like that you ask everyone for videos of them eating their hats. Some sort of fetish?
If it is I’ve seen stranger ones
That’s the first time I’ve ever heard someone talk about eating a hat, let alone me asking for a vid
Link to the theory? Thanks
6 hours before
reddit.com/r/angelsbaseball/comments/e8u0de/out_on…
Wow thats crazy. Before news broke, hope we get rendon at the very least
Oh dam… You might be right. The Angels could have just realized they can’t compete with the Yanks money for Cole and with th Stras and Wheeler gone they are gonna try and save cash to acquire Price and sell the deal to the fans as the “ace” they needed. Man it must suck to be an Angels fan. I would almost want to trade Trout for a kings ransom to a team he might be able to compete with in his prime. That way the Angels can restock their farm with top prospects and free up cash to buy really good players. They could probably do all that while unloading he entirety of the remaining Pujols contract as well. The Angels would lose the best player in baseball (which is okay because they won’t win the WS with him) and they can load up their depleted farm while freeing up about $70 million of payroll for every year afterwords. The Angels would definitely win a world championship sooner if they did it that way. Still… It sucks to let someone like Trout go but if it gives the team a more imminent world championship it’s worth it, right?
Why would Arte not be able to compete with the Yankees for Cole? The Yankees made a low ball offer of $245 million for him knowing that Strasburg was asking for that much. .
$245 is a low ball offer lol. Wow didn’t know $35 mill a year is low lol
If you know Strasburg is asking for $245 million and Cole is worth more then yes its a low ball offer. When Strasburg was expected to get $30 million AAV, Cole was expected to get $35 million AAV. So Cole will get at least $37.5 if not $40 million AAV. Yes, the Yankees low balled him.
For Cole, at this point in time, $245 Mil is a low ball offer. He will want 9 years @ $35-36 Mil AAV. He will get that easily.
@Koamalu
Not true. They increased the offer once Stras signed his deal. And how would they know that the Nats would offer that high? You may know the “ask” but you won’t know if anyone met the price until the deal is announced. But like I said, reports say they put forth a higher offer already.
The Yankees increased the offer? News to me. Nothing about that anywhere. They low balled Cole at $245 million. .
Wow, you nailed it.
@koamalu you were saying…?
I’m not sure where Koamalu gets off saying that the Yanks knew Stras was getting $245M when they offered Cole the same. The news came out about the Yanks “preparing a $245M offer before anything happened with Stras. The Yanks didn’t know the Nats were gonna do that and then they adjusted afterwords. Koalaman was wrong in every single aspect. He seems to build his opinions based on what he wants to believe rather than taking time to realize the facts.
Calm down StandUpComedyGuy
Give it a week, ha ha.
See ya!
That means we’d end up paying a portion of his salary just to get rid of him…. yeah, that sounds pretty good.
Worth it. When he’s good he’s good but outside of the game it’s really tiring hearing him complain or argue about or with someone.
never seen a player on any team of any sport more miserable as him, goodbye enjoy California and i will never miss anything you did for us.
Lmao
Red Sox will look at the teams with the top prospects like the Padres for Price. Atlanta is another possibility.
Only way a team like the Padres could afford to take Price is if the Red Sox were willing to eat $60 million plus of the $90 million he is owed. Not happening. Going to take a high revenue team to afford him and then the Red Sox are still going to have to eat $30 million or so.
Did you not read the article. It says Bosox will have to eat a large portion of the contract or add a valuable player for someone to take Price.Why do Boston fans keep talking like they expect to get something back for dumping Price and his ridiculous salary.Any teamtaking on Price is doing the Sox a favor.He’s coming of an injury filled not great year and he’s making 32 mill for the next 3 years
Slider you are so right. Why give up a good pitcher for retreads. I know Bloom won’t do that.
I can’t tell if slider is being serious. Price has negative value. The Red Sox would have to give up something with him, or take back someone they don’t want, in order to get rid of him. No one is giving up top prospects or even decent prospects for Price. Literally no one.
Willie, what do you base your evaluaton of price’s year on?
He graded out 13% better than league average with an era+ of 113.
Thats not cy young, but, over the past 5 years price has put up about the same to slightly better production than strasburg.
Did YOU read the article? “Jettisoning Price could require eating some of his salary” Key words, COULD and SOME.
Price was much better than average last year. A #2 or #3 starter. Yes, he was injured, but still a very effective starter when he was healthy.
If you paid attention you would know that I am an Angels fan.
Did you read the article? It doesn’t say anything about the Sox being willing. The writers speculate they might have to, but that isn’t the same thing
Same.
Best wishes,
Eck.
Sean Avery says hello.
Short memory.
Price had a 0.95 WHIP, 1.98 ERA and was 2-0 in the 2018 World Series (and IMO should have been the MVP).
I will take his sour attitude as he delivered a title on the best Red Sox team in our history.
Astros?
hes an angel, they wont get cole, give this deal till tommorow it will be done, plus its a known fact he misses maddon
We have $80 million to spend this offseason after the Cozart trade today. Cole is coming to Anaheim if money is the only issue.
Well this aged well…
Who doesn’t miss Madden?
Padres – Please NOOOOOOO!
In that park? I would be cool with it if I were a Padres fan.
Park plays evenly now. No more pitcher friendliness
Casas plus 15 million and Price to Toronto for nothing.
PAAAADDREEEEEEEESSS COME OUT AND PLAAAAAAYYYEEEE.
Price, slapd!ck player/prospect
Myers, hedges, lamet, top 25 slapper, money.
??
No chance they’d send back an important rotation piece
Or money. Or a prospect.
I call BS on this one
If Friedman has no intention of spending $400 mil on Betts do a Red Sox-Dodgers salary dump 2.0. Move Pollock and get Price and Martinez
@Improbable88
Who in the world expects Betts to get a $400 mil contract?
“Who in the world doesn’t expect Betts to get a $400 million contract?” – Fixed.
Actually Pollock for Price is a good framework for Boston, too. The Dodgers wouldn’t need Martinez , who’s basically a DH at this point.
I dunno… unless the Red Sox eat some of that contract, I think the Price will be too steep for most teams.
As he should be. Was a train wreck waiting to happen when they over paid him in the first place.
His salary is a deal now!
This isn’t surprising. Strasburg stayed with the Nationals. If Cole is as high as they have been reporting and the Yankees are really in then there isn’t much out there for pitching.
If the Red Sox can get rid of that contract outright, even if they get nothing back, it would be a win. They aren’t as bad of shape, as most Dombrowski teams when he is done. If they can’t get anything for Betts they might as well come to the realization they are getting a compensation pick. It won’t get better during the season, unless they somehow recapture the magic.
Cmon Reds
Gray
Castillo
Bauer
Disco
Price
Really?!? Price would be your Ace or #2 guy.. smh
Probably not over Gray, and certainly not over Castillo.
Wrong Redfeather
I really wish my Redsbros would realize that the glass is mostly full as far as the rotation goes. Please let’s get another good OBP bat and maybe a decent bullpen piece, DW already stated a trade is probably not happening. Damn that sounded snarky, I like your enthusiasm burtgum who knows hopefully you’re right
The Mets?? The Wilpon’s will charge a toll on the Shea bridge
If the Sox took Canó and Familia, the burden would be close to a match, but it would defeat the purpose for the Sox. If the Mets added Nimmo for JBJ, it could happen, but I’d highly doubt it. It’s probably better for Mets to address needs with second tier free agents than complicated contract swaps.
Not the way most people do math. Cano is owed the same as Price ($96mill) on his own.
might be the Phillies depending on how much of that contract Boston will eat
That would make too much sense. It all depends on how much the Red Sox want to free up and if they really think they can sign Mookie. I would suspect it would be 5 to 8 million dollars for two 2nd tier prospects. IF Hernandez was still under contract it would have been a very do able deal. The Sox could then move Chavis to 1B.
Hernandez signed for 800k
Count on a California team to come to Boston’s rescue and bail them out of a bad contract.
like when the dodgers pulled off that crazy trade in 2012.
Yeah, and they’ve won the division every year since.
Even though he’s a garbage can and a mental midget, Red Sox left-hander David Price has garnered trade interest from multiple .500 pretenders, Keith Law of food blogging fame reports
Handy that is horrible to say about Price, just horrible.
Maybe he could go to the mets in a deal that includes Cano
This have Cardinals written all over it. They wanted Price before signing with Red Sox with a contract twist as much as any other team.
I really hope the Angels don’t bail out the Red Sox. Just say no.
Angel’s. they need another injured lefty… please dont Angel’s unless boston eats some of it. and let’s not dump another 1st rd pick
I think the Strasburg and Wheeler contracts, along with the potential Cole contract have to have Bloom sighing with relief because 3 years and $96 million for Price is not looking as ridiculous as it did before. Its a short term high dollar investment. and if Boston eats half or more, they can probably get a decent prospect or two out of the deal. Nothing that moves the farm system rankings, but probably some high ceiling low A players. Kind of makes me wish the Braves kept Teheran to see who might need a #4 or #5 innings eater especially with what Lyles, Gibson, and Gausman got.
Really hope the Dodgers aren’t in the mix. Price is toxic, I mean who does this guy think he is giving it the Eckersley. Not to mention he’s nowhere near the pitcher he once was.
He’s only a season removed from a solid 2018 where Boston won the WS. If it hadn’t been for that not many teams would want him. But as maddening as Price can be he’s shown he is very resilient and can still bring it.
Niches, all true what you said, the Eck drama was embarrassing to the team/manager, and all the fans who love n respect Eck as he pitched into HOF, n is a terrific color-man on NESN. He speaks the truth.
I’m not a New Englander nor a Red Sox fan, so I don’t know much about the Eck drama. It makes sense for Boston to trade Price; but Price did what he was hired to do — something Eckerlsey never did — bring a WS title back to Boston. And there is so much desperation around the league now for quality starting pitching. Price is still good. Boston may not only be able to trade him but get rid of his entire salary — or eat some of it and get a pretty good player or two back.
If the Angels get him do the Sox take on a portion of his contract?? If I’m the Angels I’d prefer some salary relief over a prospect to maybe sign someone else
Angels are you in?!? Of course you are!
I noticed no teams were identified by Passan.
Can’t wait for Oakland to get him, Betts and sign Gerrit Cole and in addition they announce they’re breaking ground on the new park next month, so they can finally afford to spend on players instead of being misers who sold the fanbase an outright lie that not spending was somehow “good”.
Of course he is. 4.28 ERA/3.62 FIP/113 ERA+ in 2019 was much better than the 4.76 ERA/4.63 FIP/100 ERA+ average in the AL. 10.73 K/9 is exceptional. Red Sox would have to eat $30+ million of his contract, but trading him should not be much of a problem. .
The Angels got a better pitcher for 5+ million a year. I don’t want Price in the Angels rotation. Sixth or seventh starter…. sure. But not in the top five.
LOL OK. Price still struck out 10 per 9 innings. And if you take out his 3 bad days he had an ERA of about 2.60. He is still worth while
I couldn’t care less how many he struck out. If the Angels are going to bail out their competition and spend 20 million on Price, they are morons.
Not getting a pitcher as good as Price at a discount would be apropos for the Angels
i don’t want him on the Angels either, but he is not a 6th or 7th starter. That is just stupid. He was better than average last season so a #3 at the lowest.
.He won’t be hard to trade as long as the Red Sox are willing to eat some of his deal.
He’ll cost between 15 and 20 million bucks a year. He’s threw 107 innings last year. 75 three years ago. He had a 1.9 WAR, that was less than Bundy.
If the Angels pencil him into their rotation, they are in huge trouble. Are the Angels going to drop Ohtani Canning or Bundy or Heaney out of the rotation? I wouldn’t choose Price over any of them. I’d much rather have Ryu, MadBum or anyone else the Angels are going to add.
If he’s traded to the Angels, I’d think of him as the 6th starter on this team.
Bundy is not better than Price. Not close. What he is is an innings eater. Still don’t want Price. I want Cole.
Those innings are important. Last year, Price 1.9 WAR. Bundy 2.3.
I’ll take Bundy who will be 27 and has thrown 614 innings over Price who is 34 and has thrown 2029 innings. It’s not even a close call.
War is a poor stat for pitchers. But what you’re saying is an injured price who accumulated that war in less than those 107 IP (his last 4 appearances he was injured and ineffective, should’ve been shut down but tried to push through) generated war at about 1.5 to twice the rate as bundy.
That makes it a no brainer – in favor of price in the rotation, not bundy.
What isn’t a poor stat is innings. Or Age, or lifetime innings. You’ve made some nice points, but Bundy has upside and Callaway knows how to develop pitchers. If Price is in the Angels rotation this year, the Angels are screwed. I don’t Price at all. Especially at 15 to 20 Million a year for three years.
This should have the White Sox written all over it. If they can get Boston to add a real asset, the White Sox can eat all of Price’s salary – and they could actually use him.
Boston is low on real assets. Their farm is all but barren. I would imagine they’re not going to be attaching a guy like Devers or Benintendi in any trade w him either.
Bradley Jr..
What kind of surplus value do you think JBJ has? I would imagine not that much
They definitely aren’t trading Devers after last year’s performance. I could see Benintendi being available after his performance last year if they White Sox actually include value going back (in addition to eating all the money). Might as well see how desperate Boston is to shed salary.
And Bradley Jr. doesn’t add much of any value. He’s basically another salary dump for the Red Sox.
Casas is a nice prospect
No
Good idea but can’t see Boston adding much in the way of prospects. More likely Boston would eat a bit of salary
White Sox should take price and Boston should add JBJ. They would have to pay some money considering that’s around $105MM in total salary owed.
Adding JBJ doesn’t add value to the deal. They should take Price and Benintendi. Benintendi has been an average player 2 of his 3 years, but he has enough upside to eat that entire Price contract for the Red Sox. If the Red Sox want to dump JBJ to save more money (they do), the White Sox can take him too and make him a 4th OF once Robert comes up.
I see the Mets jumping in on this and landing Price
5th starter , bounce back candidate? Check!
Contract dollars and Wilpons still in charge? Not so much
Price and Betts to the Angels for a warm body?
Yea that would be a big nope.
Considering betts brings a pick at the end of the 1st round comp picks after this season if not signed again I’d have to say no.
And Eovaldi?
who is interested? why? 96 million for an average, old guy….wow
Bad contract swaps happen all the time
Have you seen the contracts being given to starters this past few weeks
Is it me or do the Phillies and Boston match up really well here? They need a pitcher, Boston needs a second baseman. Price is owed $96 million over the next three, Segura is owed $45.5 million over the next three (with buyout). Sox throw in some cash due to injury concern and I see this happening if Segura waives his NTC.
I was mentioning this earlier today that these RS pitching deals are coming less underwater due to the inflated SP contracts coming down this FA period.
Interesting thing about price, this past season up until he was trying to pitch through those last few starts while injured before shutting down he had very good numbers and was up around the league leaders.
Couple that with his strong 2018, particularly playoffs, and there’s cause for optimism especially with only 3 years left on the deal.
I’d like to see the RS add 5m 2020, 8m 2021, and 11m 2022 in salary relief and get back some so-so prospects, OR, a servicable C and CF who are on short term deals owed less than 5m/per.
Pivot and sign porcello to a 1-2 year incentive laden deal
Yeah I don’t think that’s resonating with anyone. He’s expensive, his velocity is decreasing and he’s entering mid-thirties.
I think the deals for Stras and Cole are going to have less of an impact on Price than you think.
Strasburg era+ 2015 to present:
114, 119, 178, 114, 138
Price era+ 2015 to present:
164, 112, 135, 123, 113
Seems pretty similar, no?
wouldn’t trade a bag of balls for price, Betts, and 40 mill. still nowhere worth it
His FIP this past season was 3.62, better than in 2018 when the Sox won the WS. Any competing team would want Price — more than they’d want Dylan Bundy. The question is at what price Price? Will Boston eat some of his salary, or of not, will they send back some young cheap talent with him? Can’t see Boston trading Price and Betts together unless there were other outstanding pieces involved. I doubt Boston really wants to trade Betts.
Price is an albatross contract. What team would consider trading for him unless you give up multiple top prospects and eat close to 25 mill off the remaining money owed.
Sounds like you aren’t familiar with 1) what FA SPs are signing for this offseason, 2) the fact it’s a sellers market this offseason and next, 3) what kind of season price was having up until making a couple starts injured, and 4) how price finished out 2018.
Nowhere near the albatross you imply
It’s 3/96 for a injured player with reduced pitch velocity, etc… Even if the Sox paid 48m what kind of player are you getting at age 34,35,36. Price is definitely trending in the wrong direction.
What’s the trend?
Last 6 years of David Price (2014-19):
ERA+: 108, 164, 112, 135, 123, 113
FIP: 2.44, 2.78, 3.60, 3.64, 4.02, 3.62
As of July 17th 2019, before he made the last handful of starts trying to play through injury before being shut down, he accumulated a 3.16 era (imperfect of a stat as that is).
So, aside from seeing his era right to a 3.6 after coming to boston, which has been consistent, what’s the wrong trend you see?
He probably doesn’t even crack the top of worst current contracts. Price still has good positive value upside.
I don’t understand this. Boston will have to eat salary to get rid of Price. How is that “positive value upside”?
Didn’t write that out properly. I meant he’s not a negative WAR player with the potential to regain some form. His peripherals weren’t bad for 2019.
Cardinals would make sense. They’ve always loved him and are craving a lefty starter.
Odor, Calhoun & Choo for Eovaldi & Martinez. Red Sox clear money and
Rangers get a pitcher & DH.
That’s not a good deal for boston at all, doesn’t clear salary, and weakens the team.
If the Red Sox threw in Betts with Price and some money, Atlanta is a good fit. They could keep their prospects that they value highly and only give up others that are good value while also getting rid of Inciarte, thus addressing 2 needs. They would have 3 lefties in their rotation, though.
Betts, Price, and $
for Inciarte, Wright, and (insert another prospect)
Yay or Nay?
Wright has potential, but in his brief 11 appearance sample size he has had MAJOR problem with HRs and Walks.
He might be only a aaaa type guy, and, boston isn’t the type of market that is kind to guys figuring it out as they go at the top level.
Ender has 3 years of possible control remaining, but isn’t exactly overwhelming. I’d say servicable, maybe a 4th OF type in boston.
I don’t think it’s unfair to ask for some $ from boston, ideally there’s less cash in 2020 with some extra in 21/22 to help boston get under the cbt easier… say 5m in 20, 8m in 21, 11m in 22.
I’d like inciarte/waters/wilson/wright for betts/price plus the money split as outlined above
You need to put down the crack pipe lol
Stay away Angels! You already have a lefty made of glass in Heaney. Cole and Bumgarner!
Hey Arte and Eppler, JUST SAY NO to Price! You just got rid of a bad Cozart deal. Sign the healthy free agents, don’t take on other teams baggage.
Some of his salary? Much more than some , thinking at least half and still need a good prospect
Myers, Kinsler and Hosmer for Price and Betts…Done, k tnx bye
Bloom is a smart guy, he will want top prospects for Price and a top pitching prospect. not average old major league players.
Price isn’t worth the money, but if David Price is your 3rd starter, you’re probably in the playoffs.
Price for Myers makes all the sense in the world. It doesn’t make all the financial sense for the Pads, but while Price still has value, Myers has absolutely none. But the Sox can put him at 1B (they really don’t have one), hiding most of his defensive deficiencies; and I can see Myers hitting 30 bops in Fenway. Toss in a few warm bodies from the Sox farm (that’s all they really have) and a #15-25 type from the Pads, and it works all around.
The Pads wind up paying Price 11M a year for 3 years. There are worse deals out there. Oh ya, it gets David into the NL, which helps.
What about dalbec? There’s your league minimum salary 1b with some major pop in his bat.
Dalbec’s probably a year away, and he K’s a ton. And remember after the season, they almost certainly lose Mookie, and might lose JD. The Sox aren’t the kind of team that can “depend” on rookies.
And myers doesnt have a K problem? 168k in 435 PA for 2019. I don’t think myers is anything you can depend on either, but, at least a rookie leaves cash to do something else.
If anyone takes on myers it’s a sunk cost that won’t be movable.
Look at it another way, myers contract you’re paying a ton for just about no value (even with the superball he only hit 18 hrs last year). Take that same salary plus JD’s and you just bought mookie betts if you want him.
I’d agree all around about Myers, but you’re neglecting the Sox’ desire (real or imagined or self-limiting) of getting under the threshold.
Re: Mookie. I don’t think it’s as automatic as everyone thinks it is. True, he apparently has no great love for Boston, but I don’t think it’s outright hatred. Mookie wanted to go year as year as any TRUELY competitive athlete would want. And, if it works, they make more money. Moreover, another year like this one, where he was vey good but not great, and it’s not like other teams will be knocking the door down for him.
Here’s the question though. If you’re shipping price out for myers, you need to sign a SP to replace price.
When porcello is likely a 10-12m deal, porcello+myers salaries basically equally price.
So for the 2020 cbt budget cut, you really don’t save much if anything at all.
Then ask yourself, are the redsox more competitive with price/dalbec or porcello/myers?
And at the trade deadline or next year, what asset needs less cash added to clear, price or myers?
I just don’t see a new improvement coming with myers and yet still fielding a competitive ballclub, and there isn’t a rookie SP to throw in price’s slot.
Unless they get a cheaper SP. Or make an ancillary deal.
I lost my abacus. Make that 14M a year for 3 years. But it still holds.
The best way for the Red Sox to hurt the Yankees would be to trade Price out of the AL East…
How do the Red Sox get out of these terrible contracts?
I’m surprised a rebuilding team like Baltimore isn’t all over these salary dumps. Grab players from the Red Sox, Cubs, and Astros and whoever else is trying to dump payroll. Have the salaries paid down some and pick up a couple prospects in the process. Could be a way to fast track a rebuild.
I hear Robinson Cano is available.
This is nothing more that a fall back option for teams that don’t sign a top pitcher this winter. Honestly Boston is in the same boat with Price as the Indians are with Kluber but worse. Both teams are interested in moving them but would be selling low. The big difference is Price’s contract is guaranteed at 3/96M and going to be harder to move while you could trade for Kluber at 1/17.5 and have the choice to pickup his option if he rebounds or decline if he doesn’t. It’s potentially 2 years of Kluber for almost the same cost as 1 year of price without the risk of being stuck under the contract if he declines.
It is fun to watch the Yankees fans gloating how the Yanks will obviously spend over $300 Mil and are all but guaranteed to land Cole when just 2 years ago now the we’re all saying what a bum he was and how overrated he was and how stupid the Yanks would be to surrender any prospects for Cole. Have to love it!
Bloom is a smart guy, he will want top prospects for Price and a top pitching prospect. not average old major league players. He would want either Gore or Patino, Baez, and Cantillo
Price better be coming with a bag of gold.
Red Sox fans think they are going to offload virtually all the contract and get multiple prospects back in return? Who realistically wants a $32M per year roughly league-average pitcher?
Bingo!
He is a 2-3 War player worth 18 million a year, so the Sox will have to pay at least 12 million per year to trade him.
2 questions.
1) price has been better than league average every single year.
2) Although he is older, and just had surgery, price’s output profiles not unlike strasburg’s.
Era+ ranks these guys compared to league average.
Strasburg era+ 2015 to present:
114, 119, 178, 114, 138
Price era+ 2015 to present:
164, 112, 135, 123, 113
Price isn’t worth 35m/yr to me like stras just signed, but, I think he’s worth more than 20m per year too.
Does money need to get added? Sure, depending on the return you want. But how much is fair?
But where’s this bottom barrel narrative really coming from? Metrics say price has more value than lots of people are claiming
That’s a good point, he’s definitely undeserving of some of the harsher critics here. However, looking at those values, prices to best seasons will have been 3 and 5 years ago, where strasburgs will have been 1 and 3 years ago. Of course his contract is long enough that a huge drop-off or injuries are definitely possible.
Price for Pujols, Trout’s autograph and an Ohtani jersey.
Braves also have the prospects that Bloom would like in Pache, Anderson, and Contreras
Just like Happ, Price might be a fit for the Jays if Boston would eat part of this. Jays cover 60m and Red Sox the rest and throw in a very good minor league pitcher.
The money is right, but I don’t see the Sox trading him to the Jays.
David Price and Benintendi to the Cardinals for Fowler, Tyler Oneil, Jose Martinez, and Junior Fernandez. Cardinals win on top tier talent, but also take on about more in payroll, which will grow cuz of benintendis arb numbers. Sox get some decent potential back, although no top prospects. I think theres enough talent there to replace benintendi, who seems slightly over-valued to me, but I think there may need to be more pitching talent back to sox.
Thoughts?
Reds should be in.
Price and Benintendi to the Reds.
Winker, Aquino, or Ervin;India;lower level prospect; competitive balance pick (some comb of the above) to Boston.
Boston kicks in $10 mil a year on Price’s deal.
Price goes back to his college pitching coach, Benintendi goes back home to be a hero. Boston gets salary relief a top 100 prospect someone with upside to plug into Benintendi’s spot in the outfield, and some farm system depth.
Lol
Never should have let Lester go.
If we’re throwing out trade proposals.. Boston trades David Price & Andrew Benetendi to the Padres for Will Myers + 10M (offsets some of the money), and 3 of the Padres top 10 prospects: C Luis Campsuana, LHP Ryan Weathers, and RHP Michel Baez. Who says no?
No
I like the framework, replace Campusano with OF prospect Hudson Head or Mason House.
Padres trading Myers and cash makes no sense.
That trade would cost the padres 20m more in payroll. You would be better off keeping all those prospects and myers and just sign bum. Bum is better then price and still would have all those prospects.
If Bloom is trying to move Price I would stay clear, he won’t be worth it.
Only a dream. Angels take on $60 million of the contract, plus one year of Betts for mid level prospect.
I know i’m nuts.
So let’s unpack it… you want price at or a hair below market value for free, and to get betts for just a single mid level prospect even though he nets a comp pick at the end of the 1st round comp picks.
I can’t see that happening, either side of it
Any trade proposal here is risky. Lots of money in play. Maybe the Mets could get involved but it’s difficult. Here’s my idea;
Mets get: David Price
Red Sox get: Jeurys Familia & Jed Lowrie
It would have to be financially structured in a way to help both teams. Familia has 2 yrs & $22 million left on his contract and Lowrie has 1 yr for $11.5 million. Combined, that’s $33.5 million, almost the equivalent of one season for Price($32 million AAV). As part of this deal, Red Sox would only have to give the Mets $8 million for the 2020 season to help keep them under the luxury tax threshold. However, the Red Sox will have to give the Mets $12.75 million for the ’21 – ’22 seasons. With the massive of amount of money coming off the books after 2020 for the Mets, they would easily be able to afford Price with a nearly $20 million AAV after Boston’s commitment.
If this confuses anyone, I essentially added Familia’s & Lowrie’s contracts($33.5 million) and figured out how to make that dollar amount work best for both the Red Sox & Mets during the duration of Price’s contract. The Red Sox would essentially save about $24 million for the 2020 season, pretty much assuring them of staying under the luxury tax. For the Mets, getting that extra money for the final two years of Price’s contract, not only justifies having him on the payroll at that reduced price($19.25 million AAV) but the Mets would continue to maintain massive payroll flexibility with all their previous commitments coming off the books. So, in total, the Red Sox would save $62.5 million during the duration of Price’s contract.
Man that was a lot of stuff to talk about but I think it’s a viable option.
Except the red sox get 2 useless assets, and pay future seasons?
Look at it from the other side. Red sox give away a pitcher who even in 2019 was 13% better than league average. In exchange they get the unproductive familia and injured lowrie.
Let’s follow the money:
David Price 2020 salary save 32m (-32m), familia 2020 salary add 11m (-21m), add lowrie 2020 salary 11.5m (-9.5m), add cash you have going to mets 8m (-1.5m).
So for 2020 your proposal saves boston 1.5m, costs them a slightly above average starter from the rotation, and gives a pair of unneeded “assets” that dont fit on the ballclub.
Then you want extra money in 2021 and 2022.
That dont check any box boston needs.
I’m sure that I explained it wrong but the Red Sox save $62.5 million in my proposed idea. And for the record, they may be getting crap but I don’t see teams knocking down doors to get a 34 y/o SP that will be making $32 million per season for the next 3 yrs. If the Red Sox truly hope to save at least $60 million they have to expect to get crap. To uncomplicate things, the Red Sox & Mets then essentially do a salary swap for 2020. Familia & Lowrie($23.166 million), Price($32 million). Sox save almost $9 million in 2020. 2021, Lowrie is gone, it’s just Familia’s last yr left for Boston which is a little over $10 million, after that, the Mets have to pay Price his full AAV for 2022. Either way, it works out the same. Sox save $62.5 million of the $96 million still owed to price. Makes sense.
How can the red sox save 62?
You have them paying 22m to familia, 11.5 to lowrie, 8m to mets in 2020, and 12.75m in 2021 and 2020. 22+11.5+8+12.75+12.75= 67m cost to the red sox.
Price is signed for 96m.
Red sox under your proposal pay 29m less to get stuck with lowrie and familia, BUT you also don’t give back a servicable SP. Boston doesn’t have a minor league SP to move to the rotation, so, they’ll need to sign someone.
So, at best your deal means boston saves 9.67m per year MINUS what a free agent SP costs to add back into the rotation.
Likely, boston loses money in the swap by the time they add another SP, and, familia/lowrie have no value to them.
That’s why that deal is DOA.
I said forget that initial message because I clearly worded it wrong. They are saving $62.5 million because Familia’s $22 million plus Lowrie’s $11.5 million equals $33.5 million. Subtract that from Price’s $96 million and you get…………$62.5 million.
Except the only year that saving money counts for anything is 2020 to reset the tax rate.
You ignore how a contending club is supposed to do that with literally nobody available to enter the rotation unless another FA is signed to plug the empty hole.
Even your revised deal has -32m (price) +11m (familia) +11.5m (lowrie) leaving a 9.5m “savings” in 2020, EXCEPT that as I said, you now need to ADD salary again to have the missing SP.
I’m not sure what you can sign in a SP for 9.5m or less, but I do know boston doesn’t have the prospects to trade for anything of value that, again, needs to be 9.5m or less just to break even.
Unlike NY boston doesn’t have long term spending issues, and it’s not about saving bulk payroll over the next 3 years.
All they care about is a one-time cbt reset below 208m in 2020, while keeping a contender on the field.
Downgrading an above average pitcher in price for familia plus lowrie and some inferior scrub SP and saving less money than trading away sandy leon did doesn’t get it done, or really, do anything whatsoever for boston that they need.
The Red Sox are slowly heading towards a rebuild. They’re going to lose Mookie Betts within the next two years, they have underperforming SP’s, no closer & weak farm system. They are in serious trouble. I doubt the Sox are worried about contending in 2020. There are plenty of SP’s that could be signed to minor league deals with spring invites.
I noticed no interested teams were mentioned that wany Price. LOL
The mistake the Red Sox made was publicly stating they were doing a salary dump.
Kris Bryant/Jason Heyward for Mookie Betts/David Price
Price will be back with the jays if (I’m sure they will not) they can’t convince any top arm to come north with them.
As a Red Sox fan, I am thrilled to hear that Price is generating trade interest. IF the Red Sox can find a team to take on his fully salary, they would literally give him to that team. Chances are that the Sox would need to pay about 1/3 of the contract though (about $11M/yr) or take back a bad contract in the $10-$12M range for this to make sense. Myers at $18M/yr is a little too expensive for the Red Sox taste if you ask me, unless they also get an interesting prospect or two. They could then trade Myers by paying 50% of his contract ($9M) and possibly get some decent BP help in return, but the Sox would also need to spend $8-10M to replace Price in the starting rotation as well since they don’t have any starting pitching prospects ready to make the jump quite yet. So the “savings” by flipping Price for Myers aren’t that great when they have to replace him with a FA starting pitcher (maybe Porcello).
Your thoughts align with what I’ve said all offseason, except in one regard:
Where do you get the idea of how much of price’s salary needs to get paid down?
There’s a narrative his deal was grossly under water, but, I think that was based on a couple false inpressions.
First people expected a #1 ace production when he signed a league leading contract several years ago. Since then he’s been a solid #2 instead leading to a thought he wasn’t worth it.
But then 2 things happened.
1) in the years since price signed, other guys have signed similar or higher aav deals.
2) when you compare what this offseason the SP are signing for, theres been another clear upwards jump in SP salaries, further removing price’s deal from the pinnacle.
then you compare the era+ and fip of those pitchers to price, and you see his deal isn’t nearly as far underwater as the public narrative implies.
The first person on this entire thread with a rational mind thank you… That’s also not to mention I move for David Price to the National league would likely increase his success buy a full point in ERA and an uptick in all the other metrics
Dodgers maybe? If they don’t think Cole is happening, I wonder if they see Price as a viable option
That’s a pretty damn good idea if your LA price in the National league he could light it up
The Bosox are going to have to eat like Joey Chestnut & choke on it if they want to move that ridiculously blioated contract. He’s still owed 3/$93M !!
If the Angels get him, I think Luis Rengifo and a low level pitcher goes back in return.
will he be healthy for opening day?
Reportedly yes, everything is on track for a normal spring
Suck it Mark Polishuk
Toronto … Gen Giles for David Price. Red Sox eat Price’s half salary. Wonder if the Red Sox would do it.
Haniger/Dee Gordon for price/benintendi
His age is a problem and injury risk.
As a free agent he would get about 2 years 16m-20m. 9 to 10m aav maybe a bit more on a 1 year deal.
So current value for years with risk is about 3 years 30m. So six would need to eat around 60m. Roughly the price of will myers.
Maybe you can make a case he is worth a little more but I’m sure myers would sign for at least 5-7m aav.
In all honesty, if it wasn’t for sheer embarrassment, the Pujols, Cabrera’s. Cano’s, Price’s would all be unloaded for a bag of balls just to shed these salaries! Most of these scenarios are silly! These are bad deals which there is no escape from. Somehow I envision the Trout deal will inevitably go the same
For luxury tax purposes, a trade of David Price to San Diego for Wil Myers saves the Red Sox $17+ million annually for three years while the Padres would add a net $9.5 million annually to their payroll in real dollars.
Muskie that is a very interesting comment. That sounds like a win win for both teams.
Wished this Red Sox hater opted out of his contract. He doesn’t truly love it here nor respect baseball heroes like Dennis Eckersley.
I will keep pushing Wil Myers for David Price until it happens.
Is your name Sisyphus? Cause that trade is your metaphorical boulder.
Push all you want but it’ll never happen unless you’re adding Gore and any other prospects Bloom wants. Both proposals are equally ridiculous
First off 7/$245 & 9/$324 makes Price at 3/$96 look great…short term less money…should be a lot of teams out there willing to scoop that whole thing up Scott free. Nevermind eating salary… The market has changed big time
Agreed. Bumgarner is about to get over 100 million Price a better pitcher and would easily get 3 x 25 million as a FA needs a new market to play in
Yeah right. Price would be lucky to get 3×10. He is now 34 and declining. The biggest issue that would prevent him from getting more is his health.
If you think anyone values him at 25 per on a 3 year deal you will be seeing him play for the Sox the next 3 years.
Price is definitely not better than Bumgarner now and is four years older. Stop drinking the kool aid you’d have to include a prospect to get anyone to take him off your hands
David Price is a 34-year-old lefthander coming off an injury-shortened season with 2.3 fWAR.
Madison Bumgarner is a 30-year-old lefthander coming off a season of 3.2 fWAR.
Price and JBJ
For
Myers and Margot
I’ll buy you a keg of beer and ship it to wherever you live if that happens.
Better send it to Bloom because unless he’s drunk that deals never happening
And watch Madison Bumgarner get 100 million and hasn’t won 10 games in 3 seasons. Teams like the Padres or Rangers who can’t attract free agents need a pitcher of this quality and will take him on
Teams like SD who signed the most coveted free agent last offseason, you mean?
Your comment makes even less sense when SD has had a track record of either improving unproven pitchers, or helping struggling pitchers regain some value. Pitchers break doors down to come and work with SD pitching coaches.
For the rest, I’m sure the nice year-round weather and supportive fan base are major turnoffs too. SMH.
Just checked it’s been a decade finds Padres have had a winning record and they play games to a 70% capacity. I’m thinking a good number of those are visiting teams enjoying your wonderful weather. Free agents that sign there are soft!!!! That was about the money not the player wanting to win in SD. The team needs to change its culture. Bring winning back and THEN real free agents will want to play there. Until that they need to overpay or be creative and finding a way to bring David Price for a bag of balls to SD is being creative
Not too many teams “coveted” machado, if you think they did you’re delusional.
Most teams either had something better already, didn’t want the liability/sideshow, or simply had zero interest in the outlandish asking price.
Do tell, what pitchers have been breaking down doors to work with the SD coaches?
Who was in on Machado? Padres obviously. White Sox and Phillies I believe. That is ten percent of the league. I would not say that is highly coveted
Then why can’t they WIN!!!!
Taking Price would be a salary dump at this point. Any chance you could pair Price with Betts to facilitate a trade? I like that deal to the Cubs for either Amaya or Contreras.and Happ.
David Price to the Rangers for Rougned Odor
Red Sox could use some OF depth.
Price, JBJ, 3 prospects (Casas, Mata, Song) and $15-mil over 3 years (3, 6 and 6) to Toronto.
Giles, Grichuk, McKinney, Fisher, Riley Adams to Boston.
I can see David Price and a prospect going go the White Sox. Price is a very White Sox move….like Jake Peavy.