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Remaining Needs: NL Central

By Jeff Todd | December 27, 2019 at 10:17pm CDT

We’re nearly halfway through what has been a vastly more active offseason than we saw in either of the past two winters. We’ve already checked in on the NL East, AL West, and AL Central. Next up: the National League Central.

Chicago Cubs

Welp … it’s hard to know what to say here. If the baseball operations department is as hard up for cash as reports indicate, then it’s difficult to pinpoint opportunities that ought to be pursued. To this point, the Cubs have made only the cheapest of additions — Hernan Perez, Ryan Tepera, Brandon Morrow, Trevor Megill — while exploring significant trades — Kyle Schwarber? Willson Contreras? Yu Darvish? Kris Bryant?! Anthony Rizzo?!?! — that could set the stage for greater roster maneuverability. We don’t know where talks stand, but there’s no indication that a blockbuster is close to happening.

If and when the Cubs are able to free some resources, then they’ve certainly got holes to be filled. The team ought to bolster the back of the rotation, add one or more pieces to a highly uncertain bullpen mix, improve in center field, and figure out a way to put another big bat in the lineup. No doubt such a swap would accomplish one or more of those goals. Trouble is, any deal involving a highly paid, core player would create another opening — or, at least, inject some new uncertainty. It’s a tight balancing act that will put president of baseball ops Theo Epstein and co. to the test.

Cincinnati Reds

Sensing some vulnerability at the top of the division and tired of bringing up the rear, the Reds are pressing hard to win now. The club has done all it can in the rotation and filled its second base opening by signing Mike Moustakas. But it rather clearly hasn’t reached a stopping point if it really wants to maximize its chances at a 2020 postseason bid.

The Reds have irons in quite a few fires. They’ve already shown they can pull off a significant swap, having added Trevor Bauer at over the summer. But that cost a top prospect in Taylor Trammell, so it may be hard for the club to give up more significant young talent in trades. Trouble is, what’s left in free agency may not perfectly suit the Reds’ needs. Adding Nicholas Castellanos, Marcell Ozuna, or Corey Dickerson could make some sense, but the club has options in the corner outfield mix and may not see enough marginal gain to justify the cost.

What this team needs most is star-level performers up the middle. Nick Senzel is a valuable asset but may be mis-cast as a center fielder. Tucker Barnhart has a sterling defensive reputation behind the dish but doesn’t do much with the bat. And shortstop Freddy Galvis is better suited to utility work for a team with designs on winning a division. It’s possible to imagine marginal improvements in these areas through the addition of quality, semi-regular players — Shogo Akiyama, Jason Castro, Jose Iglesias — but that will also mean pushing other useful players off of the roster. Swinging a blockbuster may prove tricky, but will surely be the focus of the rest of the winter. It also wouldn’t hurt to add a veteran setup arm.

Milwaukee Brewers

Roster churn is all part of the plan for GM David Stearns. The value-hunting Milwaukee baseball operations department didn’t chase the market on several departing free agents, preferring instead to seek the next buy-low opportunities while also swinging a pair of notable asset-shifting trades. The initial additions look solid from a value perspective. And they’ve been so voluminous that it’s fair to wonder how much work is really left to be done.

The Brewers aren’t overly focused on pitching roles, but could probably still stand to add arms. Hurlers such as Corbin Burnes, Brent Suter, Eric Lauer, Freddy Peralta, and Jake Faria could operate as short-outing starters, long-inning relievers, or as typical one-inning bullpen arms. That’s a fine strategy, but it’s one that depends upon digging up as many cost-efficient assets as possible. And it’s arguable the club ought to punctuate the unit by finding a way to add another premium pitcher to go with top starter Brandon Woodruff and ace reliever Josh Hader.

The Brewers currently project to come in well under last year’s $120MM+ payroll level. But you can bet they won’t spend money just to use up their budget. Stearns may at this point largely sit back, building out trade scenarios and scanning the bargain bin for finds.

Pittsburgh Pirates

Incoming GM Ben Cherington finds himself in a position not so different from the one that Stearns inherited a few years ago in Milwaukee. The Bucs don’t spend much, but they do have legitimate talent at the MLB level and in the upper levels of the pipeline, much like the pre-2016 Brew Crew. Cherington may follow the paths of Stearns and (former Cherington understudy) Mike Hazen of the Diamondbacks, both of whom have to this point found success — if not postseason glory — by eschewing both dramatic rebuilding and wild spending phases in favor of diligent, value-oriented roster maneuvering.

Presuming that sort of conceptual approach … well, we still don’t know what to expect. Cherington may not blow things up, per se, but he also surely won’t hesitate to move high-quality veteran players when it makes sense. Center fielder Starling Marte, reliever Kone Kela, and starter Chris Archer are the most obvious candidates; utilityman Adam Frazier and righty Joe Musgrove have reportedly drawn interest. If the trade offers meet or exceed the prices being paid in free agency, maybe Cherington will unleash an early-2020 onslaught of deals. But he really doesn’t have any veterans that he absolutely must move this winter.

As for additions, the team needs a long-term catcher first and foremost. It hasn’t settled on players at the 4-5-6 positions, but has plenty of internal options at or near the majors. Improving the rotation and bolstering the bullpen are theoretically desirable, but the focus will be on achieving value coming off of a rough 2019 campaign. Other buy-low desires will be dictated by which (if any) players are moved out via trade.

St. Louis Cardinals

At the moment, the Cards look exactly as they did when the 2019 season wrapped up, except without outfielder Marcell Ozuna and with lefty Kwang-Hyun Kim stepping into the shoes of Michael Wacha. There are, as always, a dozen or so outfield possibilities on hand. Perhaps it’s not unreasonable to expect some number of them — including, eventually, top prospect Dylan Carlson — to fill in adequately for Ozuna. This mix worked to the tune of a division title in 2019, so there’s no particular reason to think it can’t succeed again.

It’s a bit difficult to pick out a remaining free agent (Josh Donaldson aside, anyway) and say that the St. Louis roster would be improved drastically through that player’s addition. Sure, the team would rather have Nicholas Castellanos than not, but at what price would it make sense over the existing pieces? If there’s a specific position that feels unresolved, it’s probably center field and its questionable combination of Harrison Bader, Randy Arozarena, and Lane Thomas. But that’s precisely the wrong area to add this winter, with the aforementioned Marte leading a meager list of good possibilities.

What the Cards could use more than anything, it seems, is something we’ve mentioned previously with regard to this roster: to consolidate some of their solid MLB assets into really good ones. As it stands, only Paul DeJong finished the 2019 season with 4 or more fWAR (in his case, driven by glovework). Getting quality for volume is a tricky thing to pull off; it’s more or less what the team attempted, with still-questionable results, in last year’s Paul Goldschmidt deal. But it’s what president of baseball ops John Mozeliak ought to be seeking to swing — at more or less any area of the roster — over the next two months.

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  1. Dbird777

    5 years ago

    Bummed with this Shogo-to-the-Reds talk. After making moves for Moose and Miley getting a mediocre OF would be a letdown. Would much rather have 1 of Ozuna/Castellanos then sign Dickerson. It’s like our FO isn’t sure if they’re going half in or all.

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    • Ashtem

      5 years ago

      Akiyama is not mediocre

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      • Dbird777

        5 years ago

        He projects to be about .730-.740 OPS based on subtracting the usual 200 when Japanese position players (see, Aoki and Kosuke) move here. That’s nothing to write home about. Especially when 800+ guys like Ozuna, Castellanos and Dickerson are on the market.

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        • braves25

          5 years ago

          @Dbird777

          Ozuna is not a .800+ OPS guy. He has only been over .800 in 1 season. At what point is that considered the outlier season and the several years or .800 or below the norm?

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      • AZPat

        5 years ago

        Akiyama is Winker. I agree with Dbird.

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        • Dbird777

          5 years ago

          Lol. I’d like to say ‘nice try’ but it wasn’t even close. Winker’s never had a season under .830 OPS.

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        • TheMick7

          5 years ago

          Even Clint Frazier had a .806 last year.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Frazier was actually very good before he went down to injury. After that he was very mediocre.

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  2. fred-3

    5 years ago

    $220M payroll and can’t win the division lmao

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    • Cmurphy

      5 years ago

      Red Sox had a 240MM payroll in 2019. Ended up with the same record.

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      • brewcrew08

        5 years ago

        So both teams didn’t live up the media hype is what you’re saying.

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        • Cmurphy

          5 years ago

          Pretty much, yeah. Heck, the Marlins won in 2003 with like 55M in payroll.

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        • mugatu22

          5 years ago

          63 mil was still good for 20 highest payroll. Only 23 mil more then the cubs. Yankees were at like a 180 that year. Next highest was 116.

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      • enricopallazzo

        5 years ago

        Couldn’t of happened to two more unbearable fan bases than those either.

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    • The Human Rain Delay

      5 years ago

      Such a weird take with no nuts and bolts behind it, Cmon this is a trade rumor website Fred

      Most bloated payrolls aren’t even built on the current year. They are built on previous years chasing titles (you know, why they play the game ) in guys like Heyward Lester Yu .etc ……..

      Now they did get a ring out of it so there IS that………

      Furthermore theres nothing new about huge payrolls not working out….it happens……..its cool…… things always change….. in fact this exact website is a great outlet for you to… um….. maybe project how you’d turn it all around if you could be GM for a day, try it 1 day

      Do better Fred

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    • Mikel Grady

      5 years ago

      But won a world series . Dodgers can’t even get to the nlcs

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      • fred-3

        5 years ago

        Where have you been living? The Dodgers have stopped spending since like 2016. Cubs currently have a payroll $40M more than LA. The Cubs are what the Dodgers were before Freidman, an overpaid mess of a roster.

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  3. megaj

    5 years ago

    Cubs need help on the “back end” of the rotation?! Jeff, they don’t even have the front end nailed down unless you are now considering Darvish an ace?! Did you see how awful Lester and Quintana were last year?! They are the back end! Even though he struggled after his injury last season, Hamels was the best pitcher in the rotation and that hole had to be filled. With every decent FA pitcher off the board, their ONLY hope is to get a quality arm in return for Contreras or Bryant. It looks like Epstein is only shopping for prospects which makes his statement to the fans that they are still in contention mode mind boggling.

    If Kimbrel comes back to form along with the current roster of Alzolay, Chatwood, Wieck, Wick, and Ryan then the bullpen actually isn’t that bad. If they can pick up Will Harris after the Bryant trade, then that would be a very good pen. What if Morrow comes back strong as well? For once, the pen isn’t their biggest weakness, SP and finding a regular lead off hitter is.

    Another thing that is frustrating is that they basically have two probable .900OPS hitters that were never utilized fully under Maddon in Schwarber and Happ. If Ross plays them both full time, the lineup will score runs.

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    • Cmurphy

      5 years ago

      Schwarber played in over 150 games last year (over 600 ABs). I agree about Happ. Was surprised he was stuck in AAA for so long last season.

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      • cubsnomore

        5 years ago

        Happ got brought up after a couple good weeks in the minors. Previous to that he was terrible.

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        • JoeBrady

          5 years ago

          Happ got brought up after a couple good weeks in the minors. Previous to that he was terrible.
          ———————————————–
          Happ’s worst year in the pros was a .761. I don’t care for the number of Ks, but he’s never been terrible.

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    • jhanley108

      5 years ago

      That’s a lot of ifs. 4th place

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      • twentyforty

        5 years ago

        Foolish. But you know that already.

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    • Lanidrac

      5 years ago

      The Cubs certainly also have rotation problems, but any bullpen that needs to rely on Chatwood as a decent contributor is not very good.

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  4. Karlander

    5 years ago

    Brewers likely will finish no better than 3rd in the NL central without better starting pitching. 3rd base also remains a mystery at this point. Garcia and Navaraez were good adds but the rest of it is cheap mediocrity.

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    • stubby66

      5 years ago

      Once again there is still over a whole month that the spring training starts. Burnes could be this years Woodruff and Erceg could still straighten out, young guys that struggled some no need to give up on them already. I believe that Erceg can give you 3/4 of what Moose gave us or maybe him and Gatewood can platoon. Four years ago the Yankees had Cooper, Bird, Austin and mo one would have taken Cooper as the one to turn out as being the success. So I’m not going to shy away as these two becoming productive major leaguers.

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      • Karlander

        5 years ago

        Wishful thinking isn’t a strategy for success. Especially the success of the last couple years.

        There are still significant holes and talent issues. It’s not to say they are bad, far from it. But It’s a pipe dream to think Garcia and Smoak replace the nearly 100 homers lost from the exits of Moose, Grandal and Thames. That’s serious for a team that relies too heavily on the long ball.

        I think 90 % of fans I am speaking to thought a starting pitching stud was coming our way this off season. Only way that occurs now is via trading Hader.

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    • Lanidrac

      5 years ago

      We’ve been saying the same things about the Brewers’ starting pitching for the last three years, and look at how well they’ve done. It doesn’t make much sense, but at this point I’m going to stop doubting their ability to at least be competitive with their patchwork rotations.

      I agree they do still have some other holes, though.

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  5. st1300b 2

    5 years ago

    Trade Marte and Archer for Adell.
    Angels will have fastest outfield in the game and a Starter that is best in the AL.
    Bucs get Cutch 2.0

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    • Dbird777

      5 years ago

      Angels aren’t trading Adell. At least not for that package.

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      • chicagofan1978

        5 years ago

        What? Marte and Archer for one prospect? Yeah that’s a bad trade for Pittsburgh

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        • mugatu22

          5 years ago

          Ya the best one in baseball. Teams don’t trade the best prospect in baseball for a good OF and a bum pitcher

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        • chicagofan1978

          5 years ago

          Archer isn’t great but he’s not a bum

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    • jkoms57

      5 years ago

      Archer is not the best stsrter in the AL..

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      • retire21

        5 years ago

        I don’t think that’s what he is saying lol.

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  6. sam00991

    5 years ago

    Galvis is completely fine as a shortstop even for a contender, so what they said is completely false

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    • Dbird777

      5 years ago

      You’re talking about a guy with a career OPS of .675 That’s a replacement level player and why he’s been kicked to the curb by 3 teams already. It was a completely mind-boggling move for us to pick his option up for 5.5 mil when we could have released him and re-signed for a fraction of that.

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      • TheMick7

        5 years ago

        Galvis is not good. 89 WRC+, and a -9.1 off. Additionally, he is a subpar fWAR at 1.4 and projected to decline. Yikes…..

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      • ericl

        5 years ago

        Galvis was good for the Jays last season & was a good mentor for the young Latino players. The Jays got rid of him to get Bichette more playing time, not because he was bad for them

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  7. bigcheesegrilledontoast

    5 years ago

    Donaldson, why haven’t the Cards signed him. He’s the x factor that would make this team feared if they make the post season plus if they come up against the Braves again will be a point of difference and he’d have inside knowledge of their pitching staff. There’s plenty of value there beyond just the playing contract. And he fits the ethos of the current roster, so many signs ‘point to YES’. Make it happen, give a fan a bone.

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    • Payne Train

      5 years ago

      Donaldson is Old and expensive – just like the rest of the cardinals problems.
      Carp is being paid 18 mil a year, he will be playing third for the next two years unless we give up the moon along with a contract swap for Nolan A . (Which has a .01% of happening)

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      • Robust Scouting

        5 years ago

        Carpenter is old and expensive too, yet Donaldson earned his $23M last year.

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        • Lanidrac

          5 years ago

          Yeah, but Carpenter is the one who is currently under contract, and the Cards would have to eat most of it to get rid of it at this point. They have no choice but to hope for a rebound seaason from Carpenter.

          Meanwhile, tell me when Donaldson learns to play a decent LF.

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        • Robust Scouting

          5 years ago

          Why would Donaldson play LF?

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        • Payne Train

          5 years ago

          I know that he’s old an expensive but we, or should I say, the Cards are paying him a buttload of money already. They won’t invest any more money into 3rd base for the next two years unless someone buys Carps contract, which will not happen.
          Bad timing on his contract extension, but it is what it is

          I thought the Donaldson in LF comment was funny though lol
          I can imagine him blowing his knee out on opening day :(:(:(
          <3 Donaldson, wish the Cards would have stopped flirting with him a couple years back and just paid him for a couple years

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      • bigcheesegrilledontoast

        5 years ago

        Athletes that look after conditioning have no problem staying productive till 40.

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        • JoeBrady

          5 years ago

          ROTFLMAO!!! Nice sarcasm.

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      • socraticgadfly

        5 years ago

        That said, Mr. Todd misanalyzes the team. Wong had more than 4 WAR on bWAR, where he actually ranks better than De Jong. Edman had almost 4 WAR in 60 percent of a season.

        My option is still to free up third by sending Carp to the Sawks for Price, along with other around the edges moves in that trade that don’t lose any big pieces for the Cards while offering Boston the salary relief it clearly wants. Carp can go back to second, where Boston has a huge black hole. Cardinals free a regular position for Edman and also upgrade the rotation.

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  8. drewm

    5 years ago

    *waves Jedi hand* this isn’t the Dylan Carlson you’re looking for
    try instead this one: baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=car…

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    • JamesDaltOn

      5 years ago

      Dylan Carlson is good. Left fielder next summer. No need for an outfield addition.. Cardinals should be an 85-90 win team, again. Cubs will be better, if pitching is better 85-90 wins. Brewers will fade 82 wins. Reds will be better 82 wins. Pirates will tank.

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      • Lanidrac

        5 years ago

        That’s still a lot of uncertainty in the St. Louis outfield. Even if Carlson is as good as expected, who plays LF until he’s ready? What if they need him to play CF instead, because Bader and O’Neill once again disappoint while Arozarena cools off and isn’t any better? What if Edman has a sophomore slump, or he needs to play 3B because Carpenter doesn’t rebound? What happens if Fowler or another outfielder (who is playing well) gets hurt?

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        • jkinser20

          5 years ago

          Those are all questions teams who build internally face. Personally, I think the OF is fine as is, though I’d like Dickerson just for a little more consistency in the lineup. Honestly I think oniell, Thomas, randy A, Carlson etc will be capable of handling it. They are all talented players so it’s not like they’re marching out a bunch of scrubs, surely one of them will stick.

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        • Payne Train

          5 years ago

          Jkinser- that wouldn’t be a bad idea except the only one in that group of OF will any kind of proven MLB experience is Fowler – and lol, Fowler ……
          Just my opinion but you can’t say that your trying to make the playoffs with 2-4 outfielders that’s never proven themselves at the MLB level.
          Let them play and pray would be more of a Pirates, Miami, Baltimore approach .

          Unfortunately our team, again in my opinion, is not set up to support a whole outfield full of unproven . Which is why I think that MO will try and package multiples for one good OF’er.

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        • Lanidrac

          5 years ago

          Yes, the hope is one of them will stick, but it’s rather optimistic to think that that two of them will stick at a level good enough for the team to make the play-offs.

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  9. Matfactor2

    5 years ago

    Reds need to trade off Senzel. He will never play a full season.
    Send a package over to the Rockies for Blackmon and Story.
    If not them do a three team trade with Indians and Dodgers. They already have good trade history.
    So send Lindor to Dodgers, Seager and Pederson to the Reds and Indians get Senzel plus Mahle (they could develop him more) and a few other pieces.

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    • TheMick7

      5 years ago

      Blackmon and Story would take quite a haul…. I don’t think they they would be willing to give up what Colorado would want in return for those guys.

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      • The Human Rain Delay

        5 years ago

        Well blackmon is underwater value wise so the trade would actually be for about 85% of Story’s 2 yrs of value left-

        I think it would take a lot less than you think….that is if Col is really looking to blow it up in the first place (big if)

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        • Matfactor2

          5 years ago

          Blackmon would have a smaller outfield in Cincinnati which would really help him.

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    • mugatu22

      5 years ago

      You want to trade senzel cause he won’t play a full season for seager who hasn’t played a full season in 3 years and pederson who is under contract for 1 year. Good move

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      • Matfactor2

        5 years ago

        Senzel has been hurt/sick 2-3 times that last 3 seasons.

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  10. everlastingdave

    5 years ago

    I think you guys forgot the top thing on the Cubs’ to-do list: find out if you have 1 or 2 years of Kris Bryant, and then probably trade him. I say Dodgers.

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    • twentyforty

      5 years ago

      He’s going nowhere. Stop believing the idiot print media who has trouble understanding a single team let alone all 32.

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      • paindonthurt

        5 years ago

        I would have said the Cubs would not trade Bryant a couple months ago. That is when I didn’t believe they actually would decrease payroll. They are clearly trying to get under the luxury tax line. All signs point to Bryant being the guy to trade based on salary and value. Wake up and smell the coffee. When Donaldson is signed and his grievance is settled he gone? The other one that makes sense based on salary and the market is Quintana. Yes they should add starters rather than subtract, but he can net solid prospects in this market.

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      • mhaftman7

        5 years ago

        32? I mean you aren’t helping your “intelligence” cause by being incorrect about a basic fact.

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    • Lanidrac

      5 years ago

      I think they’d be better off just trading Rizzo instead of waiting for word on Bryant. He’s similarly valuable to Bryant with two years control remaining, they already know exactly what that value is, and it’s easier to find a decent 1B in free agency to replace him in the lineup.

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      • paindonthurt

        5 years ago

        Rizzo is the Cubs Golden Child. They will not trade him.

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  11. mpwr2

    5 years ago

    The Cardinals don’t have a closer

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    • timyanks

      5 years ago

      doesn’t matter. they still have a manager that can’t manage a bullpen

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      • Payne Train

        5 years ago

        Cough, manager of the year, cough

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        • timyanks

          5 years ago

          bark, bark, lost in playoffs, woof, woof

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        • Payne Train

          5 years ago

          So the there is 29 managers every year that suck because they didn’t win the WS ?
          Say what you will, the game is much easier to Manage from a couch than In real life.

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        • Fowlerrc

          5 years ago

          That’s all well and good, but the only reason Schildt won Manager Of The Year is because Flaherty had an all-time great 2nd half (along with the Cubs dumpster fire down the stretch and Yelich’s season-ending injury for the Crew), which allowed them to squeak into the playoffs. They lucked into an NLDS win due to a perfect storm of bad shit happening to the Braves. Schildt is a fine manager, but let’s call it what it is.

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        • Robust Scouting

          5 years ago

          Counsell won manager of the year. He got most 1st place votes. It’s not his fault the system is flawed.

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        • JoeBrady

          5 years ago

          bark, bark, lost in playoffs, woof, woof
          —————————————-
          90% of all teams eventually lose in the playoffs.

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        • Robust Scouting

          5 years ago

          96.6% of teams eventually lose in the playoffs.

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        • Lanidrac

          5 years ago

          Your thinking that any voting system for merit-based head-to-head awards should rely entirely on first place votes is what’s flawed.

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        • knuck2

          5 years ago

          96.6% don’t win the World Series. Most don’t even make the playoffs let alone lose there.

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        • Robust Scouting

          5 years ago

          Who gives a shiiitt who finishes 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. The system should be vote for 1st place only. It’s real simple. I guess that’s too complicated for today’s society to understand?

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        • JoeBrady

          5 years ago

          I thought about it, but that is technically incorrect. 90% of the teams lose in the playoffs. 66.67% of the teams don’t make the playoffs.

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        • Payne Train

          5 years ago

          Awwwwwwww boooooo:(:(
          Sorry, but Schildt won it – cry if you must but either way, Counsell did not win. Because you can’t have two winners and Schildt won.

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        • iml12

          5 years ago

          He should of been manager of the year. He’s the brewers most valuable player. Ok maybe yelich

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        • Karlander

          5 years ago

          ‘ Shoukd have’ doesn’t count. Brewers ‘ ‘ could have’ two seasons in a row. Instead , they only came close. Close only counts in horseshoes. Now Stearns is discount shopping in volume. Good luck. A starting pitching stud was needed,.

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        • Lanidrac

          5 years ago

          No, it shouldn’t! While more people thought Counsell was the best NL manager, too many thought he wasn’t even good enough to rank second or even third, which is almost as important a consideration in head-to-head merit-based voting systems.

          He didn’t deserve to win, because the voters were mainly split between those who thought he was the best and those who thought he wasn’t even close to the best.

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        • paindonthurt

          5 years ago

          Everyone cried about Matheny. Now Schildt sucks too?

          Reply
        • Tapeman69

          5 years ago

          Both suck

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        • timyanks

          5 years ago

          not both, just mo

          Reply
    • Lanidrac

      5 years ago

      If Martinez returns to the rotation, Gallegos is the obvious candidate to take over the job.

      Reply
    • Tapeman69

      5 years ago

      I think they like martinez

      Reply
  12. jorge78

    5 years ago

    What’s with all the hype for Trammell? He didn’t hit at all for two organizations in AA in 2019.
    Did he hit a wall?

    Reply
    • dan55

      5 years ago

      It’s common for guys to struggle in the minor leagues. Remember that he is still very young and he plays center field, a position that is usually below average offensively. Trammell’s very fast and walks a lot so he projects to be a solid center fielder.

      Reply
      • Matfactor2

        5 years ago

        So did Billy Hamilton there is a reason why the Reds got rid of Trammel

        Reply
  13. jorge78

    5 years ago

    Another interesting question?
    Will Adam Frazier hit .279 next
    season?

    Reply
  14. Payne Train

    5 years ago

    Sell a prospect to get someone to take Fowler – then I don’t care what the Cards do this year . That alone will make me watch 120 games on FSMW

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    • Lanidrac

      5 years ago

      Then their outfield will just have another hole. Despite being overpaid, the Cards need Fowler if for nothing else than the certainty he provides as an average starter for RF while the other two outfield spots are currently up for grabs.

      Reply
      • Payne Train

        5 years ago

        If your OF is going to consist of two rookies/young guys, with the long list of OF potential that we have — you might as well fill the third spot with a young guy instead of just filling two.
        Fowler isn’t good enough to offset even a bad showing from an Oniell type.

        But again, that’s why I still think they will trade multiples for one good OF bat

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        • Lanidrac

          5 years ago

          Fowler was an average player both offensively and defensively last year! He’s the one decent, proven outfielder they have right now! He was overall a much better player than either Bader or O’Neill last year!

          No, you do NOT just fill all three outfield spots with unproven youngsters when they shouldn’t even be doing it with two spots! The Cardinals are NOT rebuilding!

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    • paindonthurt

      5 years ago

      It would take more than one good prospect to unload Fowler.

      Reply
      • Payne Train

        5 years ago

        Yea your probably right – but I do think the goal would be a decent prospect and someone takes on 60-70 % of the contract . I wouldn’t expect someone to take the full contract unless we were doing a bad contract swap.

        Fowler is worth 6-8 mil a year I would think.
        Heck if that’s what the Cards were paying for him, I wouldn’t be so anxious to get rid of him.

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        • Lanidrac

          5 years ago

          Overpaid or not, the Cardinals still need Fowler. He’s the only decent, proven outfielder they have right now.

          Reply
        • Ezpkns34

          5 years ago

          So you think Fowler is only worth 6-8M/yr, but expect a team to pay 60-70% of his current contract (noticeably more than 8M/yr) AND give a prospect for the “opportunity” to do so?

          Reply
  15. tim815

    5 years ago

    The Cubs need is the easiest.

    Their primary need is the arbitrator’s ruling on Bryant’s service time.

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    • Lanidrac

      5 years ago

      …or they could trade Rizzo instead, who doesn’t have any service time issues.

      Reply
  16. Rayland#1

    5 years ago

    The answer to the Cubs’ needs is “All of them”! Ricketts has not allowed Theo to do anything this off-season. He’ll leave when his contract is up.

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    • mugatu22

      5 years ago

      Theo is the reason they won the WS but the reason they are in this mess. I personally think Theo is at his best when he has restrictions. When he doesn’t have them he is a fat guy at the strip club. Blows all his savings

      Reply
  17. holycow16

    5 years ago

    Go Cubs Go

    Reply
  18. Lanidrac

    5 years ago

    At least the Cardinals have several options for CF. What they really need is an offensive upgrade in LF, which is basically a black hole right now (unless Carpenter can rebound at 3B, and Edman isn’t a fluke and can take over LF).. Resigning Ozuna would be nice, although trading for someone like Nimmo may be a more realistic option.

    Reply
  19. cygnus2112

    5 years ago

    I think the Cards are much more likely to add Corey D. than Nick C.

    Reply
    • paindonthurt

      5 years ago

      Agreed. I’m picking Corey D. to the Redbirds.

      Reply
      • Nek

        5 years ago

        Corey D just signed with Miami.

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        • paindonthurt

          5 years ago

          Not the last time I’m wrong.

          Reply
    • Lanidrac

      5 years ago

      I’m still hoping they just resign Marcell O. He’s a better all-around player than Nick, and the Cards are the one team who don’t have to worry about losing a draft pick to sign him.

      Reply
      • paindonthurt

        5 years ago

        I don’t think he’s a better player than Nick. He has a noodle arm and lost the ability to play the outfield somehow. I’d choose Castellanos if contracts are the same. Neither help you defensively.

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  20. tiredolddude

    5 years ago

    I’m at a loss as to where Todd sees talent coming in the Pirates pipeline. If he’s limiting his thoughts to infielders, sure, but there is no help on the horizon where pitching, catching and outfield are concerns. That’s almost mind numbing
    And I’m just as amazed about his thoughts that the team has top tier talent. Look, I hope Reynolds and Newman build their starts into nice careers, I like Frazier’s intensity and Bell’s upside at the plate, but cmon. Polanco has been a huge disappointment, they have no depth or offensive ability at catcher, Bell has an iron glove at 1st and Taillon is out until ‘21.

    With no pitching depth, how do you trade Musgrove, or even Archer, really? Just who would start here? Another winter of bargain basement types like Lyles to come in and throw 4 innings each time?

    Maybe Cherrington will have a magic wand in all of this. Maybe Marte, or Bell et al, bring ready to go prospects. But it sure seems like a dark period for the Pirates. As long as they don’t just give players away, rebuild. Now

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  21. Mendoza Line 215

    5 years ago

    I think that with the Pirates there is a domino effect with Marte.If they can get a haul for him then do it.If they can get good players for Frazier and Bell then trade them.But if the offers are not up to snuff then try to add middle line free agents this year and become a decent team again then add better free agents next year while the young players improve.Take advantage of lulls with the Cubs and Brewers who will drop in wins this year from last year.
    The Pirates basically just need a good young catcher and two or three total starters and relievers to be an average team of good young players.

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  22. paindonthurt

    5 years ago

    Who the hell signs Puig? I don’t see a spot for him anywhere. Maybe the Marlins on the cheap and Mattingly sucks it up?

    Reply
    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      California Penal

      Reply
      • paindonthurt

        5 years ago

        Looks like the Marlins are out. Puig May be in Japan.

        Reply
  23. Fred K. Burke

    5 years ago

    Early NL Central prediction:
    1st Cardinals
    2nd Reds
    3rd Brewers
    4th Cubs
    5th Pirates

    Reply
    • Payne Train

      5 years ago

      I think it depends if the Cubs decide to keep everyone – if they keep their current team with one or two tweeks, they could be right up there at the top.
      Pitching will be an issue I believe.

      Reply
      • Bronyaur111

        5 years ago

        Early predictions have more 2020 WAR on the Cubs than any NL team except the Dodgers. But as you indicate, they could be big sellers for MiLB talent.

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      • ChiSoxCity

        5 years ago

        Care to explain how the cubs could be at the top with that starting rotation? The still don’t have a leadoff hitter, a productive CF, quality relief pitching, or skilled. hitters on the roster either. If you’re not getting better, you’re only getting worse.

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        • Payne Train

          5 years ago

          Well as much as I hate, HATE, the Cubs. I mean hate.
          Barf… They still have a respectable team as is….Barf

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        • Fred K. Burke

          5 years ago

          Precisely. Additionally, no help coming from the minor league pipeline in the near term with the exception of Horner and Adzoly. These players will also likely be on the ML roster.

          Reply
        • paindonthurt

          5 years ago

          See the above comment. Still higher war prediction than the rest of the central. With their current mix the central is still a toss up.

          Reply
        • ChiSoxCity

          5 years ago

          WAR predictions huh? *smdh

          Reply
        • paindonthurt

          5 years ago

          ChiSoxCity predictions huh? No thanks

          Reply
    • Karlander

      5 years ago

      Right On

      Reply
    • bigbadjohnny

      5 years ago

      someone sold you some bad medicine !

      Reply
  24. pghburgher

    5 years ago

    What the Pirates need is to stop discussing what they can get rid of then add real talent. They should also buy Nutting a new wallet, one that opens at least occasionally.

    Reply
  25. joew

    5 years ago

    What the Pirates should do:

    – go all out on Jason Castro: the fact that he is still out there is crazy, go get’m on a 3/4 year deal
    – Trade Kela for whatever you can grab.
    – check in on Todd Frazier try to get him on a 1/2 year deal
    – pick up a pen arm or two.

    For the fans, cause they where popular here. Having them around would be nice.

    – See if Russel Martin wants to continue playing, coach or be in the booth
    – See if AJ would like to join the staff.

    all of that likely would cost under 20m/year. Give them a real chance to compete in 2020. If it doesn’t work they still have the same people to trade + T. Frazier likely with out losing much value at the deadline. In Archers case, probably improve value…. at least a bit. and then “only” cost them an additional 10M or there bouts to try.

    Reply
  26. bigbadjohnny

    5 years ago

    Even though the Cubs have not made any major moves. they are still the BEST team in the NL Central,,,,,True, the Reds have added…and are above 500 team now…..Cardinals are a 500 team……Brewers starting corp is a big question mark…….Pirates starting over again…………Cubs lost only Castellanos…..and some real bad relievers…..so their bullpen improved in my opinion……….Darvish & Hendricks are becoming 1 & 2 pitching duo……Kimbrel will have a new fresh start……..Ross will motivate this Cubs team….or Theo will mill crack the whip !

    Reply
    • paindonthurt

      5 years ago

      I would not say the Cubs are the best team. But, they are virtually the same team as the Cardinals and Reds. I think the Brewers slid down the line. The offseason is not over…re-evaluate when it is.

      Reply
    • Payne Train

      5 years ago

      Johnny – you sound biased . You called the Cards a .500 ball team and tried to defend the Cubs at everything they suck at.

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    • tiredolddude

      5 years ago

      While the Pirates are the Pirates and the Brewers have done their best to not address pitching while losing some key cogs, I’m not sure how the Cubs are the cream of the central.
      I hate the Cardinals, but they have it all over the Cubs. And it’s nice to see the Reds rising. Hopefully they’ll contend this year

      Reply
    • wordonthestreet

      5 years ago

      Cardinals are defending NL Central champs. Cubs have done nothing to close the gap and may wind up even farther behind

      Reply
    • Eatdust666

      5 years ago

      Except that they’re the most overrated team in the NL Central.

      Reply

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