3:05pm: The Red Sox have now officially named Roenicke their interim manager, issuing a press release to announce the move. Speier tweets that the “interim” label will likely be shed as soon as MLB finishes its investigation into the 2018 Red Sox.
FEBRUARY 11, 12:32pm: The Red Sox are preparing to name Roenicke to the interim manager, Alex Speier of the Boston Globe reports on Twitter.
FEBRUARY 7, 10:57am: Adding another layer of intrigue, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets that the Red Sox also interviewed former Blue Jays manager John Gibbons earlier this week. Gibbons interviewed with the Astros before they hired Dusty Baker as well.
10:47am: The Red Sox issued the following statement in response to the report regarding Roenicke (Twitter link via MassLive.com’s Chris Cotillo): “Our managerial search is not yet completed. We will comment at the completion of the search.”
That, of course, doesn’t mean that Roenicke won’t ultimately be named manager, although it’s nevertheless notable that the team felt compelled to issue a statement without being prompted.
9:38am: The Red Sox are planning to name bench coach Ron Roenicke as manager, replacing the recently fired Alex Cora, the Boston Globe’s Peter Abraham reports (via Twitter). The Boston organization is waiting for the commissioner’s office to conclude its investigation into the team’s 2018 sign-stealing allegations before making a formal announcement, however.
That the Red Sox are planning to promote him seemingly suggests that the organization doesn’t believe Roenicke played a significant role in the club’s 2018 transgressions and won’t face discipline from the league; Roenicke was Cora’s bench coach that season — his first year on the job in Boston.
Roenicke, 63, played in parts of eight big league seasons from 1981-88 and also has 18 seasons as a Major League coach and five as a Major League manager on his resume. He served as the Brewers’ manager from 2011-15, although he was dismissed from that post just 25 games into his final season at the helm. (Milwaukee hired current skipper Craig Counsell to replace him.) Despite that ousting, it’s worth noting that Roenicke’s Brewers posted a winning record in three of his four full seasons as manager, including a 96-win effort in 2011 that saw the club last until Game 6 of the National League Championship Series.
With the league expected to formally conclude its investigation in the near future, an announcement on Roenicke may not be too far off. The dugout veteran will be stepping up into a delicate and tumultuous situation, so it’s not especially surprising to see the Red Sox opt for someone who both knows the players in the clubhouse and has experience working as a big league manager in the past. The Sox also reportedly interviewed Athletics quality control coach Mark Kotsay, D-backs bench coach Luis Urueta and their own third base coach Carlos Febles, but Roenicke is the lone known candidate who has previously run a Major League team at the field level. He’ll no doubt face some tough questions if and when he’s formally promoted, although the exact timing on conclusion of the league’s investigation obviously can’t be known.
The managerial change will be the latest step in what would’ve been an unfathomable shakeup just 16 months ago. The Red Sox, of course, won the 2018 World Series in Cora’s first season as a big league manager and in now-former president Dave Dombrowski’s third full year running the club’s baseball operations outfit. With a talented core of veterans and several key young talents emerging at the MLB level — Rafael Devers and Andrew Benintendi among them — the Sox appeared poised for another lengthy run as one of the game’s premier teams. Barely a year later, both Dombrowski and Cora are out, however, and the team is in the process of trading arguably its best player of the current generation in a poorly veiled ploy to duck under the luxury tax barrier. Former Rays senior vice president Chaim Bloom was brought in as the club’s chief baseball officer, and he’ll now work with Roenicke — at least for the 2020 season — in an effort to steer the Sox out of what has become one of the rockiest years in the franchise’s storied history.
HalosHeavenJJ
Most obvious move. Second in command, previous experience.
Only thing is, he was there in 2018 so he’s was either aware of the cheating or too oblivious to deserve the job.
knolln
I laughed at this. Nice take
peterdipersio06
This is just a patchwork manager until next offseason. They had to for Cora relatively late. There will be a more established, bigger name manager in Boston next year!
peterdipersio06
Fire
Rangers29
Maybe like Bochy?
peterdipersio06
No I think they will keep it in house maybe like a Jason Varitek or Dustin Pedroia. They could go after maybe someone like Joe Girardi
juanpursuit
Joe Girardi has a job.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Yeah, I don’t think Joe Girardi could handle both jobs, even with two good bench coaches and the Acela.
peterdipersio06
Girardi has a job now! Don’t you think that any manager in baseball would be willing to leave their current managerial role to manage either the Red Sox or the Yankees ? Those two jobs are the most prestigious in baseball!
rememberthecoop
That’s some east coast bike you’ve got there. Why not the Cubs?
peterdipersio06
Cubs ? Lol! Season after season the Red Sox and the Yankees always have the attention of everyone in the US and internationally! I was in the military and have gone to Germany, Japan, Korea, Middle East, Italy and I have always seen someone in either Red Sox gear or Yankees Gear! I have seen a few in Dodger gear. But never in Cubs Gear!
double
I mean the Phillies might be upset thinking that Girardi is under contract, but I’m sure they’ll understand when the Red Sox explain to them that the contract is invalid if they want Girardi.
Just_a_thought
I was thinking along the same lines, I’d die laughing if the Red Sox punishment manages to include him and they have to find another manager.
AngelDiceClay
I think they’re aware if RR is implicated or not before they decide to name him manager. Grow. Up dude seriously
looiebelongsinthehall
That’s why this won’t be official until the MLB investigation comes out supposedly on Wednesday.
WarrenSpahn
grow up or look at the facts objectively?
he was the bench coach…
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Honestly, it wouldn’t be a huge difference.
the.sophisticant
i gree. ronkee is vewry nice man with good hed on his sholders. i think he can coach his way out of a pepper bag. herd he use to have good strng throoing arm and good at basebal. good sign by blue sox lol jus joshin good sign by red sox.
KingRyan227
This is the hardest paragraph to read lmao
BloodySox
Couldn’t have said it better myself
peterdipersio06
Wow! Chubby cubby is definitely from Shitcago!
bravesninersnation
LMFAO at Shitcago and peterdipersio06 comment
MoRivera 1999
Go away
AllRiseForTheJudge
Right because a guy who was in Cora’s staff is the right person to lead Boston out of a cheating scandal.
Also, the fact that they’re waiting for MLB suggests that Ron could face suspension.
jbigz12
He obviously is not facing suspension. Im confident that their FO is not that incompetent. It’s been pretty clear that using the cameras was Cora’s thing. I’m sure the Red Sox have done their own due diligence.
brewcrew08
There’s no way he didn’t know what was taking place with the cameras. I personally think he deserves to be suspended. He’s promoted for cheating? Doesn’t make sense to me.
mcmillankmm
Sounds like a salty Brewers fan….
brewcrew08
A salty brewers fan when we went from Roenicke to Counsell who’s arguably the best manager in the game. Makes sense to me
dray16
lolololololololol, Counsell…..lololololololol
brewcrew08
Name 5 better.
aggee10
joe girardi, terry franconia, ned yost, Dave Roberts, and joe madden.
brewcrew08
Girardi who just found a new job and madden who was canned by the Cubs? Ned Yost doesn’t even deserve a response and Roberts can’t win a title with all the talent he’s given? Come on now.
brewcrew08
Yost after KC won the WS he has a record of 278-370. Terrible
WarrenSpahn
you’re sure about all this?
the fact that it doesn’t make sense to you does not provide the rest of us much assurance…
aggee10
Just because the Yankees didn’t want to Girardi doesn’t make him a bad manager.
Robert’s was cheated out of a title. Wait a second, wasn’t it Robert’s team that beat counsel team to go to world series? And the royals let go of all their talent, I’m pretty sure need Yost had nothing to do with that.
aggee10
Also how many titles has counsell won as a manager?
brewcrew08
Counsell has done it with less than half they payroll Roberts and Girardi had. Counsell has turned out 3 winning records in 5 seasons. Yost has 5 in 16 seasons and a career winning % under .500. So we should call Yost a top 5 manager because he had a great 2 year run in 16 seasons as a manager?
Briffle2
If a team’s salary is that important to determining how good a manager is, Cash (whose team salary was 60 million less than the Brewers in 2019) is in the Mike Trout league of managers. And Maddon’s team he took to the WS in Tampa was 2nd to last, 160 million less than the Yankees.
AngelDiceClay
Oh get off your Brew Crew bandwagon. Counsell isn’t highly regarded as top flite manager. It’s common knowledge that everyone goes to a Brewers game with to catch a glimpse greatest Brewer of them all. The one the only Bob Uecker.
jmccoy1252
Need to at least get to the World Series before you enter best Manager in the game argument
Vanilla Good
All of that insight on Milwaukee all the way from California. Thank you for telling us why we go to games. You’re very smart.
its_happening
Why would you say Counsell is the best manager in the game when he had the NLCS gift-wrapped by Roberts and the Dodgers and he overplayed his hand? Counsell will be exposed this season. Overmanaging catches up to everyone. Get to a World Series first, then he can be considered.
brewcrew08
Yes I would consider cash one of the best managers in the game. It’s so much easier to manage when you have a 200-300M payroll like the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers and so on have every year. It’s common sense you have MUCH more talent and therefore should produce MUCH better results. Like Roberts for example. You think if he wasn’t gifted all that talent in LA he’d still have a job? Put him in Cinci, Pitt, TB..he’s gone long before now. It’s tougher to produce results in smaller markets
JoeBrady
But you are also held to a higher standard. Winning 81 with KC would be a great result, but not so very much with the NYY.
And having more talent did nothing to aid to Joe G and Don M’s longevity at NY & LA.
And Tito is finding it just as easy to manage CL and the RS.
dray16
it doesn’t pay to argue with brewer fans, they’re delusional. i live in Wisconsin and it’s horrible listening to them all summer long
brewcrew08
Tito won two titles in Boston. He has zero in Cleveland. You don’t think if he had Boston’s payroll in Cleveland they don’t beat the Cubs?
Girardi lasted 10 full seasons in NY and after 2009 he was under .500 in the playoffs. He made the postseason 1 of his last 5 seasons. So at the very least NY gave Joe 5 seasons of leash. Also he averaged 86 wins his last 5 years. I thought that didn’t last long in NYY?
aggee10
That had nothing to do with NY not resigning him. They didn’t want to PAY him more money. It’s a known fact. Again, how many titles has counsell brought to the brewers? How many times has he taken them to the world series? That’s right ZERO. You have no argument, so let it go. The brewers have only made it to the playoffs twice since he’s been their manager. He’s winning % .515…… Your argument is laughable at best.
BloodySox
1. Dylon
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peterdipersio06
Counsell ? You definitely need some counseling thinking that!
Stevie E. B.
Roenick! He was awesome in NHL99.
TJECK109
I just don’t get how the only one that takes the fall is the manager. Bench coaches and base coaches have to have known just as much
T_Rexx2
They haven’t brought down the hammer on the Sox yet. Cora lost his job because of his involvement in the Astros cheating.
Bruin1012
Cora was let go because of his role in Houston. We have not heard anything about what happened in 2018 with the Red Sox yet if anything.
brewcrew08
If anything? Lol
Bruin1012
Yes if anything my guess is that MLB comes back and says no evidence and moves on from this. They will quietly send a memo to all teams letting them know if they are caught doing any kind of electronic sign stealing then what Houston got will be a drop in the bucket to what will happen in the future.
If that happens, I’m guessing it will, it means one of two things. The first is the Red Sox are completely innocent, not likely, or it’s such a problem around the league that they don’t won’t to ruin an entire season, more likely.
They made an example out of Houston because of how blatant they were with it and probably some other things with the front office and that will be that. Could be wrong and maybe they will throw the book at the Red Sox but highly doubt it.
brewcrew08
Sox are already backtracking. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if MLB stepped in and pumped the breaks on this hire. How often do you see a team issue a statement that their managerial search isn’t completed after they say they are planning to hire someone?
Baseballallday
But they already sent that memo in 2017 when the Sox (among other teams including the Yankees) were found to be using the replay rooms. No penalties were given at that time but all 30 teams were told to stop and that there would be penalties if they didn’t. I’m doubtful the league will just give them a slap on the wrist as a second time offender…
Bruin1012
We will see.
Bruin1012
Just pure speculation on everyone’s part at this time.
MoRivera 1999
@Bruin102
The only way MLB comes back and says no evidence is if none of the players admit anything, even under immunity. You’re right, that could happen.
Buzzed Capra
“or it’s such a problem around the league that they don’t won’t to ruin an entire season, more likely.” Bingo!
MoRivera 1999
Baseballallday
The Yankees were not found to be using replay rooms. The Red Sox accused the Yankees. The Yankees were investigated. The Red Sox’s allegation was found to have “no merit.” Get your facts straight, man.
The Red Sox were, however, found to be stealing signs.
Bruin1012
Or it’s pervasive around the league and MLB knows it and wants to move past it.
brewcrew08
So rather than address it and correct the issue just act like it’s not there?
Bruin1012
Yup that’s what MLB will most likely do in order to not torpedo the season.
Bruin1012
Look you won’t see iPads in every dugout I’m guessing phones all electronics will be banned from dugouts and guess what it was in every dugout last year and you are telling me nobody tried to steal signs on any other team besides Houston and Boston I’d you believe that you must believe in the tooth fairy too.
phillip beasley
So the Yankees weren’t fined too?
MoRivera 1999
The Yankees were fined for having a phone. No video. No stealing signs.
Cooperdooper7
SO you are assuming since it has already proven that the Red Sox are guilty because you believe everything you hear as being true? One of your friends says he is banging your wife…. so do you believe him and immediately ask for a divorce or do you actually look into the facts and the source where it coming from to see if it is actually true? I know that is a little harsh…. but my point is until the facts are released by MLB… how do you know they did anything wrong? Yeah I get it, guilt by association….. but lets see what the investigation provides.
TJECK109
You don’t think the Sox did their own investigating into the situation with Cora? That they are just sitting back and waiting for the MLB conclusion?
brewcrew08
How about the fact they felt the need to issue a statement about their managerial search not being completed. Doesn’t smell fishy to you? Announce him as manager, MLB pumps the breaks and the Sox backtrack then.
TJECK109
And btw I’m not just talking Roenicke. I live in Pittsburgh and they hired Don Kelly who was 1B coach for Astros and I don’t think it’s right. Anyone in management or coaching position has a responsibility to report
STL27
Cooper- depends. How good of a friend is this guy? How seriously is he telling me he banged my wife? Am I into cuck stuff? Can I join in? Like the Red Sox situation, all avenues/holes must be explored before I make an informed decision.
FishyHalo
Very interesting. Have to wait and see if Jason Varitek joins the assistance as a bench coach. He was rumored to have wanted to try coaching in the big league before jumping head first into a managerial position.
dlevin11
I would make Tek bench coach but Sox might want someone with more managerial experience
butch779988
Well for an interim manager he’s a good choice. Bloom will have another year to research who he wants after that.
pasha2k
Tek is a natural. Somehow I think they are still in a holding pattern for Cora.
Clavette
I think Cora may still have the chance at coming back next season depending ding on the outcome of the sox investigation
kyredsox17
THIS is a good sign in regards to the investigation. You aren’t hiring someone in-house if there’s any serious penalties coming your way. He was my pick from the start. I love Tek and think he will probably get a chance some day if he wants it. But I don’t think he wanted it this time around. You can go from beloved to hated real quick in Boston if you don’t produce good results. Now is not a good time to take that risk.
pasha2k
This is the best time to bring the Brockstar BACK to Boston!!!!!!!!!
terry g
Wishful thinking but that boat has sailed.
pasha2k
The only boat that’s sailed is the one the Brockstar needs to take to Boston harbor!!!!!!
Buzzed Capra
It’s going to be funny if we find out that the “Brockstar” was in on the Red Sox part of the sign stealing scandal. What will his rabid fans think then? Will they still want him back? Can’t wait to find out.
pasha2k
I will always be his fan as I am Cora’s. Cora made horrible decisions, n ones if cheated made bad decisions too n will hafta live with it, n change their ways. But as a fan I wish to enjoy baseball n my fave players.
dlevin11
I wonder if Sox could wait a year and then hire A J Hinch as manager
dray16
I would
whyhayzee
Zero punishment. Nothing done. Fake news generated by crybaby yankee fans.
MoRivera 1999
Even now. When was your last comment without taking a swipe at the Yankees. December. You are obsessed. You are an 11 year old Red Sox fan whose hate for the Yankees is greater than your love for the Red Sox. Your comments say it all. btw, Yankees’ fans are making a small fraction of the comments against cheaters…
pasha2k
Personally I don’t think the NYY are crying at all. The Dodgers are big time, to an extreme. Sheesh all fans should stick together since the teams play for US. There will no players getting paid if not fir the fans.
usafcop
Dustin Pedroia for Mgr in 2021….if he can stay healthy doing that….I think he would be a good Mgr….maybe have him be the bench coach this season to prep him….keep him in the organization
brewcrew08
Lol Boston can’t even name a manager without issue.
FattKemp
Sell FC Liverpool. Use the proceeds to pay Mookie
darkstar61
Boston had to issue the statement. They know full well the only people named in the Houston report were those who would be running a club in 2020. This despite all other coaches having to at least of known, to even having been actively involved.
By it leaking now that Roenicke would be their choice, they know it may have just put Roenicke’s name in the report. So now they need act like the search is not complete incase that trend does continue.
Cooperdooper7
and your source? Same sources Drellich and Rosenthahl used for this report including the Red Sox yet when asked they both dodged the questions repeatedly.
darkstar61
This comment confuses me as it makes absolutely no sense.
My source for their being no person named in the Houston report unless they were heading a 2020 club is the MLB report regarding Astros cheating. I’m assuming you can read, so feel free to verify it yourself
Similarly, my source for Boston having issued a statement protecting themselves against the possibility Roenicke is named in the report is the Boston statement issued, and conveniently included in the update.
Cooperdooper7
My point is simple… I believe the only penalty to the Red Sox will come out as Guilt by association (I.E Cora) With Houston, their was Fiers blowing the whistle and the obvious evidence… for the Red Sox situation the reporters that broke the story incriminating the Red Sox are using anonymous sources and when asked to reveal their sources the reporters repeatedly change the subject quickly… in other words this whole thing is speculation. I also read the statement provided that Red Sox put out and I do not think it means anything but they have not made the decision that is being reported. All these writers want to be the first to report everything and are jumping the gun.
darkstar61
So your point is simple – you’re going solely off wishful thinking.
Not revealing sources is Journalism 101, and legally protected, by the way. It’s how you protect sources and ensure you get more sources in the future. If reporters were to drop sources names at the drop of a dime, no sources would ever contact them again. The endless attacks on Fiers serve as a perfect example of why sources should be protected in this specific case, as well. To take a logical and needed protection of sources to mean sources don’t exist is silly, and merely goes along with the wishful thinking forming your entire belief on the situation.
Lastly, one need not rush a formal contradicting statement out if a report is merely inaccurate. Instead, inaccurate reports are generally corrected when asked for comment or further clarification, often with little more than a “the report is inaccurate” type reply. To rush out a formal rebuttal to a rather casual report is unusual. So once again, we have a situation where your belief is formed off your desired outcome, and nothing more really.
Because all your points are solely wishful thinking, I do wonder why your reply to me wasnt a simple “I wish this isnt true” and leave it at that?
Cooperdooper7
My wishful thinking is based on the following:
“Yet two high-ranking officials involved in the investigation told USA TODAY Sports they believe that the Red Sox will receive no more than a light punishment, with little evidence of cheating”
I have a strong theory on who the sources are that are being protected…. But I will not comment on who the source is until the Investigation results are announced.
Diggydugler
Gibby is a legend! Dont tarnish his name by associating him with this franchise.
DarkSide830
reporting these days. always on those clicks
jimmertee
Gibby rocks!
Bruin1012
This makes perfect sense for the Red Sox if the assume nothing was going on or if they are confident that is what MLB would say. I would agree hopefully they bring in Tek to be the bench coach grooming him for future head coach job.
bobtillman
The Red Sox managerial search has been conducted by the Iowa Caucus administrators.
Mollysdad
You might want to wait to announce this until Roenicke passes his physical 😉
Rsox
Roenicke, like Dusty Baker is a dinosaur in the game today…more gut managing with little use of modern technology. In a sense exactly what the Sox probably need right now.
Not a fan of the choice, would rather have had Varitek. But I get it.
Mollysdad
I kinda wish they would go outside the organization, Roenicke is definately guilty of
A) knowing some form of cheating was going on and did nothing or
B) The cheating was going on behind his back which makes him clueless to his surroundings or
C) It is proven that no cheating was going on and he replaces Cora who got fired for nothing (not likely)
It’s a no win situation, Issues Dusty won’t have to deal with in Houston
LordD99
I think the difference is on what the two organizations expect from 2020. The Astros plan to be major players, regarded as one of the top two teams in the AL. They’re contending, so they brought in an experienced manager to steer the ship, who will have the players’ respect and the media’s. The Red Sox, with the Betts and Price trade pending, are seemingly looking to reset. Roenicke knows the players and the organization. He is simply a placeholder who can step in easily as soon as this week. Probably just a one year bridge. The Red Sox probably want to ensure Roenicke is not implicated in the pending report before naming him.
JoeBrady
Roenicke is definately guilty of
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Wouldn’t it make since to find out what the Res Sox are ‘definitely guilty of’, before deciding what Roenicke is definitely guilty of?
I think the general rule of law is that, before you find someone guilty of conspiracy, you have to prove that there was a conspiracy.
You know, unless you’re in Congress.
clrrogers 2
Amen
fba0017
Sure RS Ownership has capability to ask Commissioner’s office if making him interim is safe because they would know.
AtlSoxFan
This isn’t that hard, but, mlb makes it out to be.
At most, MOST, you have ballgames at 15 sites per day. Even a doubleheader is at the same site.
1) you mandate all replay rooms be locked to the outside at all times a game is active in a stadium, including weather delays
2) you station 15 mlb employed observers, one in each replay room, during all games.
3) all phone calls into the replay room are played over speakerphone within the room.
Done. No players in and out. No personnel making phone calls and relaying improper info.
Minimal personnel salaries, and some minimal regional travel. Cheating over. For a many many billions of dollars a year in revenue that wants to get into betting operations its an unbelievably small expense.
Do it.
kyredsox17
No reason to go outside of the organization after the MLB finds you innocent of all accusations. But anyways, if they had to pick 1 guy from the outside, Gibbons would have been my pick. I always liked him with TOR.
619bird
Could be the Red Sox are investigating the accusation that the Brewers in 2011 were sign stealing and doing other things to gain a competitive edge over opponents.
FatChance65
If they had promoted Lovullo when they should have, they wouldn’t be in the mess that they find themselves in.
Michael Birks
100%
LordD99
Probably simply waiting for MLB’s report to be issued in the coming days to ensure Roenicke isn’t named as a major contributor. If not, he’ll get the job. If he is, they’ll default to Gibbons.
DarkSide830
interim?
YankeesBleacherCreature
Yeah that’s a real vote of confidence for him and to the players.
brewcrew08
Like I said 4 days ago. It’s MLB pumping the breaks on the Sox. Ron was on the staff with Cora and knew about the cheating. That’s why this “hire” has been so back and forth. MLB is involved in it.
vtadave
Waiting for Hinch’s suspension to be over.
NickEsasky
Anyone who ever played with RR knew he’d be a manager, someday. Congrats Ron!
Bruin1012
Nick you do realize he was the manager for the Brewers for 6 years already this would not be his first gig and manager.
Vizionaire
still cheaters!
whyhayzee
Yes, the yankees are.
MoRivera 1999
The 11-year old shows up. You’re a sad man, wasting your retirement away on daily Yankee hate. Plus the Red Sox accusation of the Yankees was found to have “no merit.” Man-child.
phillip beasley
So the Yankees got fined for nothing?
Dorothy_Mantooth
If more comes out about the Houston front office being the masterminds behind ‘code breaker’ and asking Cora to implement it, there could be a possibility of Boston bringing Cora back in 2021. I’d say it’s pretty remote (less than 10%) but not impossible given how involved the Houston FO was in their cheating scandal. Obviously the Red Sox 2018 cheating allegations would have to be dismissed by MLB as well for this to happen. It soundA like MLB hasn’t found much evidence against Boston, but we’ll know for sure very soon!
MoRivera 1999
Cora would get booed for years. Bad PR move for Boston.
ottoc 2
^AtlSoxFan: “At most, MOST, you have ballgames at 15 sites per day. Even a doubleheader is at the same site.”
June 27, 2008, Game 1, 2:08 p.m., New York Mets (15) at New York Yankees (6)
June 27, 2008, Game 2,:8:10 p.m., New York Yankees (9) at New York Mets (0)
stan lee the manly
This is about the biggest splitting hairs troll job I’ve seen on this site yet lol.
la verdad
Lol! Roenicke is horrible! Perhaps MLB has forced the Sox to hire him as punishment for cheating.
Rangers29
Boston is just setting up to get Bruce Bochy next year. Bochy wants to take a 1 year break from managing, and the Sox got an internal, interim “Substitute manager”. Perfect fit.
rememberthecoop
Geez Adam’s, you really seem to have something against the Sox for the Betts trade. You slam it every chance you get. That’s not fair – they offered the man $300M ov 10 years and if he’s not interested what are they supposed to do? I’m tired of players expecting g loyalty when all they care about are Benjamins and meanwhile, the owners are the ones carrying all the risk. smh
JoeBrady
Writers are mostly a liberal group. And even in a contest of millionaires v billionaires, they will side with the downtrodden millionaires. In addition, their success lies in access to the players, not the owner.
That said, I was a mused by this: “in a poorly veiled ploy to duck under the luxury tax barrier.”
Poorly veiled because Henry announced in November that we had to get under the cap. And then the FO spent the following 2-3 months saying it was a goal, not a mandate. Then the FO blamed the press for it. So basically, except for publicly announcing it, and the discussing it in the press every day for 2-3 months, it was veiled.
Past that,it’s not like getting under the cap was the only benefit. IIRC, we might have picked up some pretty good players as well.
MoRivera 1999
It was veiled by the b.s. “goal not a mandate” nonsense, which pretty much any non-Red Sox fan knew was garbage.
JoeBrady
Every RS fan knew that as well. The first day that Henry said it, he told the entire world that we were trading Betts. There was no feasible way for the RS to compete and both keep Betts and get under the cap. And, if there was no feasible to get under the cap, without trading Betts, then why keep Betts?
That’s why they walked back the mandate talk. That and the fact that they didn’t want to spook too many ticket holders. Most teams prefer to stealth-tank, so fans will buy tickets before they know their team is tanking.
MoRivera 1999
There were RS fans here on this site repeating the “goal not a mandate” mantra for 6-8 weeks afterwards. Even throughout the Betts trade talks, when they were going nowhere, there were guys talking about how the RS could just not trade him and instead try to compete in 2020. You are in a different universe on this.
“The first day that Henry said it, he told the entire world that we were trading Betts.”
BS. They’ve been waffling on trading Betts. and in the media, they’ve been waffling on getting below the luxury tax. Get honest.
seth3120
The Red Sox have been one of the top organizations for years now and it’s hard to come down on them to harshly but they just seem like an organization without a clear direction of late. They hire DD who did exactly what DD does and they won a World Series. If Henry expected different that’s on him not DD. They do a 180 from DD and hire Bloom which I don’t think is a bad hire but an enormous change in philosophy. Cora had to go I understand that but how long does it take to hire a new manager? Every other team has interviewed candidates and hired replacements from the Astros scandal. A new managerial candidate isn’t going to fall from the sky. It’s mid February they need to be hiring a manager not naming an interim manager.
JoeBrady
I don’t think it is a lack of direction, but more a change of direction. I think DD had Henry’s approval to go for another WSC and, having done so, take a chance on B2B, even if it meant blowing up all the caps.
Having failed to do so, Henry made the decision to rebuild, and probably trusted Bloom to do so moreso than DD,
moody
This is comedy. Have Henry and the crew been spending time with Wilpon in the Hamptons?
JoeBrady
Yup, probably showing off all their WS rings.
whyhayzee
“…one of the rockiest years in the franchise’s storied history.“
My oh my you have no idea. This is nothing.