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Luis Severino Shut Down Due To Forearm Discomfort

By Steve Adams and Mark Polishuk | February 21, 2020 at 11:05am CDT

11:05am: Boone said this morning at Yankees camp that Severino will travel to New York and undergo another series of tests on Monday (Twitter link via The Athletic’s Lindsey Adler).

February 21, 9:10am: A pair of MRIs and a CT scan have all come back negative, general manager Brian Cashman told reporters yesterday (video link via MLB.com). For now, Severino has been placed on a new anti-inflammatory and will be reevaluated in a few days’ time.

February 20: In yet another bit of troubling injury news for Yankees fans, manager Aaron Boone revealed Thursday that right-hander Luis Severino is experiencing forearm soreness that dates all the way back to his final ALCS appearance in 2019 (Twitter links via MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch).  Severino also has a loose body in his elbow, per Boone.  He’ll be shut down for at least the next few days and will be examined by team physician Dr. Chris Ahmad tomorrow.  Asked if Severino would be ready for Opening Day, Boone could only reply, “We’ll see.”

While tomorrow’s doctor visit will shed more light on the specifics of Severino’s issue, obviously this isn’t at all how the righty hoped to begin his Spring Training, especially not in the wake of what was essentially a lost 2019 season.  Severino pitched only 20 1/3 total innings (12 in the regular season, 8 1/3 in the postseason) last year after a shoulder injury and then a lat strain kept him from making his season debut until September 17.

Any mention of a forearm injury also raises the specter of Tommy John surgery, the worst-case scenario that would sideline Severino until Opening Day 2021 at the earliest.  Back in 2016 (and on the updated list in 2017), MLBTR contributor Bradley Woodrum created a model for predicting what pitchers are the largest risks for TJ surgeries, with Severino ranking as having a better-than-average chance at a future procedure in both rankings.

It was a little over one year ago that Severino signed a four-year, $40MM extension that has yet to yield any return for the Yankees.  The deal covered Severino’s four arbitration-eligible years (and, via a club option for 2023, the first of his free-agent seasons) so the Yankees gained some cost certainty with the extension, though it did boost the right-hander’s luxury tax number over the course of the next four seasons.  While a $10MM average annual value is small potatoes for a big-market team like New York, every extra dollar is impactful for Competitive Balance Tax purposes, considering the Yankees were over the luxury tax threshold in 2019 and are currently projected to soar well over the highest luxury tax penalty threshold of $248MM in 2020.

With James Paxton already out of action until at least May, the Yankees’ rotation would take a further hit if Severino is required to miss any time.  Gerrit Cole, Masahiro Tanaka, J.A. Happ are the projected top three in the rotation, with a group that consists of Jordan Montgomery, Luis Cessa, Deivi Garcia, Michael King, and Jonathan Loaisiga now potentially battling for two rotation spots, rather than just the fifth starter’s role in Paxton’s absence.

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  1. 8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH

    5 years ago

    One can never have too much pitching depth

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    • Manfredsajoke

      5 years ago

      Ruh Roh

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    • Dexxter

      5 years ago

      Remember when Happ was almost certain to be traded because he wasn’t needed in their rotation?

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  2. Batman69

    5 years ago

    tommy’s back….back again…

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    • louwhitakerisahofer

      5 years ago

      Tommy’s back… tell a friend…

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      • woodguy

        5 years ago

        Guess who’s back !!

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  3. JaysForDays

    5 years ago

    It’s happening. I predicted TB to win the division with the Yankees continuing to have injury issues at pitcher. Cole will miss time midseason too, I suspect. Goona be another injury plagued year, but should still finish 2nd to TB.

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    • TheTrotsky

      5 years ago

      Well I guess that’s it. Might as well just not play at all.

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      • JaysForDays

        5 years ago

        Agreed. 😉

        But really, such a lame, generic response. Kinda like “gee, you must be fun at parties!”

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        • TheTrotsky

          5 years ago

          As lame as proclaiming “I predicted TB to finish fist” before a balls been thrown? And for the record there’s no way you’re fun at parties.

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        • Badfinger

          5 years ago

          A lame, generic response is exactly what your hot take deserved.

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        • dynamite drop in monty

          5 years ago

          Haha this.

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        • mrmathewv

          5 years ago

          He reply was funny. Your original comment was bland.

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        • mrmathewv

          5 years ago

          His* yikes

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    • chip chipperson

      5 years ago

      Yeah the only way the Rays win is by other teams injuries What a joke

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      • mustang66

        5 years ago

        TB has a damn good team and as they have proven the past decade they are in it every year with a payroll in the 60s.
        A couple of years ago they went all in and went up to 78m. Smart cookies over there. They are on thier 4th top guy running the show and still going strong with the best prospect in baseball, Wader Franco…by FAR a year away. You have to go past 15 in thier 30 prospect list to find a player who wont be a good major leaguer.
        Finally that trade with Pitt for Archer would make Willie Lowman proud

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        • Chief Two Hands

          5 years ago

          You’re living in the past, man! You’re hung up on some clown from the 60s, man!

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        • Gasu1

          5 years ago

          Do you mean “Willy Loman”? An aging, defeated traveling salesman move inexorably toward self-destruction, clinging desperately to fantasies? Whose life is characterized by pay cuts, firings, and multiple failed suicide attempts? OK, make him proud.

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      • Tommy Toughknuckles

        5 years ago

        I told my mom’s boyfriend Lamar that same thing and he took his commemorative Rays ashtray and broke my knee with it. Tsss

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        • chip chipperson

          5 years ago

          Home run! Sock cucka! Piece of gahbage

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        • lamars

          5 years ago

          I did no such thing

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        • LarryCera

          5 years ago

          Fuck you chippa! What’s got ya laughing today?

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      • Finlander

        5 years ago

        Disagree, Chip. TB won plenty last year despite missing the likes of Glasnow and Yandy Diaz for large chunks of the season. They are better this year.

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        • Begamin

          5 years ago

          Yankees missed a record amount due to injuries and it still wasnt enough for the Rays to win the division.

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      • Oxford Karma

        5 years ago

        The other teams take their ideas and their front office every year, yet the Rays compete.to rag them for capitalizing on injuries is a poor take. The team that remains healthy is usually going to compete.

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    • Halo11Fan

      5 years ago

      If all your pitchers get hurt and all my pitchers stay healthy than my team will finish ahead of your team.

      Wow, that’s not much of a prediction.

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    • fair-critic

      5 years ago

      the Rays are going to fold/dissappear by 2025. splitting seasons with Canada just accelerates it.

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      • raysdaze

        5 years ago

        This is comical, even for NY fan, as they will be entering the apex of their decade or so ling window. Rays easily boast one of the best, youngest, deepest, and most inexpensive teams in MLB coming off 96 wins, coupled with the BEST prospect in the game (possibly of this generation), and the best farm system in the game. There are literally no weak links in the club or the system. Meanwhile the geriatric yanks have depleted their farm, and will continue to spend hundreds of millions on over hyped busts to fill their ever-increasing holes (IE: starting pitching). Last year’s scrap bin all stars rodeo is about as sustainable as Luis arm & Paxton’s back. If Cole’s arm falls off they’ll be battling it out with the Sox for 4th…

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        • appleinthesky

          5 years ago

          Depleted their farm? BA just ranked them 17th and talked about their upside in the lower levels. Its not top tier but its far from depleted especially considering their whole team is sprinkled with home grown players. As for the geriatric, the average age of their 40 man is 27.7 and tampa bay is 27.6. They lost severino, paxton, and didnt have cole last year and still won 106 games. Please pump your brakes. Talking about no missing links, how about you actually try getting people into your bum ass stadium first.

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      • Mr. Furious

        5 years ago

        No MLB team is going to fold.

        And while the Rays might move out of their hideous, inaccessible concrete mausoleum and to a different city, Sternberg will continue to be every bit as cheap as he is now.

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      • Rocket32

        5 years ago

        fair-critic Fold? No MLB team is gonna fold or disappear, they might disappear to another city though. If they can’t get out of the Trop and into a new stadium in a better location nearby they’ll just end up moving. Splitting time in Montreal would likely lead to a full time move there in the future.

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    • Ry.the.Stunner

      5 years ago

      Cole missing time is a random thing to suspect considering he’s missed time only once in the past five seasons.

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      • Dexxter

        5 years ago

        I’m really hoping that some cheating allegations come to light for the Astros pitchers and their gigantic spin rates too.

        And that the Yankees spent a gigantic amount of money on Cole… who because of this will never be able to replicate his Astros performance in NY.

        This would create much joy for me.

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    • mlb1225

      5 years ago

      Yankees didn’t have Sevy or Betances or Stanton for most of 2019, and saw Judge, Voit, Sanchez and Didi miss good chunks of time as well. Yet through all of it, they still won 100+ games.

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      • metsie1

        5 years ago

        A very telling and true statement about the state of the AL East. Baltimore, Toronto and now Boston are all a mess. The Rays are ok but they are not a real threat to the Yankees.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Boston is not a mess. Devers, Bogey and JDM are for real. Sale, Eovaldi and E-Rod are capable of leading the team. And Toronto has a lot of promise. They’re gonna win some games this year. Both teams are likely to win eighty-something games and if they catch lightning in a bottle, just watch out. But they are hardly a mess. Now Baltimore is hopeless, but then most divisions have a Baltimore…

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        • metsie1

          5 years ago

          They traded their best play in Mookie Betts for what? The pitching if Sale is ready to go is who? No they are a mess. Toronto has lots of promise? True. So do a lot of unproven teams. Face it, the division stinks. The Yanks and Rays will feast on hot garbage.

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      • johnnydubz

        5 years ago

        But can they do it without cheating? It’s clear that they have been cheating for awhile that even Girardi slipped on MLB Network. Beltran was on those Yankees teams few years ago. Urshela came out of nowhere just like Voit and Ford. Astros should be banned just like every Yankee and Red Sox. Unfortunately since Selig allowed Yankees fixing games in 96,98,99,00,09 just like Red Sox 04,07,13 that Manfred won’t punish Red Sox 18 and Astros 17 run

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        • pojack

          5 years ago

          I bet your underground shack is a wonderful place.

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        • ♪

          5 years ago

          Urshela’s rise as a hitter is one of the most suspicious in recent years..
          He was such a bad hitter with Cleveland and Toronto that his WAR was negative despite very good defense.

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      • therealryan

        5 years ago

        Well the Yankees still don’t have Betances, Sevy is a question mark at this point and Stanton has hardly been the model of health throughout his career. They also don’t have Didi, Voit has never played more than 118 games and Sanchez and Judge have averaged only 102 games over the past 2 seasons.

        The Yankees are the team to beat, but there are definitely questions surrounding many of their biggest stars.

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    • papasmurf25

      5 years ago

      Funny as im remembering all the injuries they had last year and still finished in first so I disagree with your guess

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      • Rsox

        5 years ago

        It’s rare that lightning strikes twice as in the same exact place.

        The Yankees overcoming the myriad of injuries they suffered last season to finish first was a miracle in itself. Asking them to do it again is fairly unreasonable.
        If Cora didn’t mismanage the starting pitchers last spring and the bullpen wasn’t terrible early the Sox probably win some of those blown games against the Yankees and they would have been looking up at the Rays in the standings.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Rsox

          I agree with your first point: “Asking them to do it again is fairly unreasonable.” If 30 players go down this year, I don’t see the NYY winning anything like 103 games. TB likely beats them. The Sox might even beat them.

          I’ll have to pass on your second point about Cora mismanagement of pitching for two reasons: I’m not that familiar with Cora’s pitching decisions, and second a half-dozen game swing is…large. If I had to take a stand I’d say “maybe, maybe it would have swung things to TB.” 🙂

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        • royhobbs

          5 years ago

          If…………

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        • JoeBrady

          5 years ago

          I’m not sure if it was mismanagement. Sale, Price, and Eovaldi all went down with injuries. I’m not sure adding more innings in ST was going to help them. And Porcello consistently stunk.

          It’s not like they they started off slowly in April, got ten back, and then roared back in September to miss by 2. The rotation, except ERod, was a mess most of the season

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    • costergaard2

      5 years ago

      I didn’t know TB still had a team.

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      • raysdaze

        5 years ago

        Parents wouldn’t let you stay up to watch the playoffs last year?

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    • Boogaloo

      5 years ago

      You do realize Severino was a non factor last year, and the Yankees didn’t have Cole and still won 103 games right?

      The only way the Yankees lose the division is if the team bus crashes.

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      • johnnydubz

        5 years ago

        Team bus you mean team plane? That would be a shame just like it would break everyone’s hearts if that happen to Astros

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      • whynot 2

        5 years ago

        Yes they will win the division then get bounced early in the playoffs once again. They don’t have enough starting pitching, even if they were healthy

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    • GGERM

      5 years ago

      Done

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  4. Pappagoose

    5 years ago

    yikes first Paxton now luis

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    • User 4245925809

      5 years ago

      Paxton missing time with some kind of injury isn’t something to be unexpected. ask mariner fans that.

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  5. Batman69

    5 years ago

    Good thing Cashman completely ignored all of you yankee fans and kept JA

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      Yeah, I never suggested they get rid of Happ.

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      • Eatdust666

        5 years ago

        Maybe you didn’t but many Yankee fans did, though.

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  6. Dorothy_Mantooth

    5 years ago

    Wow, they haven’t even played their first spring training game and 2 starters are out and Aaron Judge has shoulder issues…sounds like a repeat of 2019 is on its way.

    “Loose bodies” usually equals surgery. Look at Eovaldi last year; it torpedoed his season.

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    • dugdog83

      5 years ago

      Don’t worry…. Stanton will play in 61 games this year. That will help.

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      • GOMS

        5 years ago

        Lol

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      • windycitykid89

        5 years ago

        Lol

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      • bencole

        5 years ago

        Lol

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        • towinagain

          5 years ago

          Eh for whatever its worth, I saw Stanton at Disneyland several weeks ago. So guessing a little Disney is good for some rehab. Wore this crazy cool Goofy cap didnt recognize it was him until he got off Big Thunder Mountain and this guy and his fam got a pic. Seemed like a classy guy

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      • mrmathewv

        5 years ago

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    • Rudy Zolteck

      5 years ago

      Didn’t Edwin Diaz have bone chips in his elbow too? If so, that is another point of reference, unfortunately.

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    • groundhog5150

      5 years ago

      If the Yankees have known about the floating body issue before a couple of weeks ago, why haven’t they gotten surgical opinions yet?

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    • JustCheckingIn

      5 years ago

      Loose bodies seems to be a guarantee of at least a cleanup surgery in the future

      But that plus inflammation could mean its more immediate. Gotta feel a lil bad for Severino

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  7. angt222

    5 years ago

    Yanks have the depth to move Severino along slowly. Just let him rehab and get healthy before letting him make a start.

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    • JaysForDays

      5 years ago

      Elbow issues lasting the last 8 months don’t traditionally heal without surgery. See Ryan Borucki.

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      • jmchale40

        5 years ago

        Did jaysdordays really site borucki? Dude…I walk home from the dome after games, go to my fair share…so I can tell you it was just loose bodies effecting his performance. I would take an injured severino over him every day of the week

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      • jmchale40

        5 years ago

        Did jaysdordays really site borucki? Dude…I walk home from the dome after games, go to my fair share…so I can tell you it was just loose bodies effecting his performance. I would take an injured severino over him every day of the week

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      • jmchale40

        5 years ago

        Did jaysdordays really site borucki? Dude…I walk home from the dome after games, go to my fair share…so I can tell you it was just loose bodies effecting his performance. I would take an injured severino over him every day of the week

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        • Cave

          5 years ago

          Did jaysdordays really site borucki? Dude…I walk home from the dome after games, go to my fair share…so I can tell you it was just loose bodies effecting his performance. I would take an injured severino over him every day of the week

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        • Rudy Zolteck

          5 years ago

          I think he meant more that his injury was keeping him from playing at all, not just performing well.

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      They have the depth? Not really. Not with Paxton gone too. The depth after Montgomery is highly suspect IMO. Even Montgomery is not a solid choice for #4 at the moment. I’m not a big fan of Lpaisiga. And King and Garcia aren’t ready, IMO. This is pretty serious stuff, at least until Paxton and German return.

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      • Javia

        5 years ago

        Nobody can lose an ACE quality starter without having it cause serious pain. The Yankees had 2 true ACE’s, now they have 1. That will hurt far more in a short playoff series.

        Let us hope that he will not miss all year. Loose bodies can require months of missed time for removal. Far more scary is the fact that his forearm is not recovered after an offseason of rest. It’s starting to sound like a possible Tommy John situation.

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  8. Padres2019ha

    5 years ago

    ruh roh

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  9. BobSacamano

    5 years ago

    Boy oh Boyd

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  10. bkbk

    5 years ago

    Yankees fans suddenly not guaranteeing anything

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      I never guaranteed or predicted a thing. I said yesterday the Red Sox could finish second behind the Yanks OR the Rays. I know perfectly well that anything can happen. And personally, if the Yanks have as many injuries this year as last year, I don’t think they ride them out as well this year.

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      • JaysForDays

        5 years ago

        The red sox will finish 4th, battling toronto all season long, but coming up short. They’re just not good.

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        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          5 years ago

          Betts aside, it’s essentially the same roster that steamrolled baseball in 2018. You can debate about how many of those wins were attributable to cheating, but they’re still talented enough to beat at least the Jays, maybe even the Rays. Don’t see them catching the Yankees, but they’re better than they showed last year.

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        • bkbk

          5 years ago

          Toronto is going to be better than everyone thinks.

          -An angel fan

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        • JaysForDays

          5 years ago

          Toronto played last year with a bunch of rookies and 31 pitchers starting games… and still went 8-11 vs a boston team that had betts and price. Add Ryu and some improved pitching and this jays squad will def be improved… foolish to sleep on them.

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        • jmi1950

          5 years ago

          Have you called for Judge to give back the ROY which was helped by the Yanks using a CF camera and the bullpen phone to steal signs??

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        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          5 years ago

          As people say about the White Sox, a lot of their success will depend on unproven pieces. Like Eloy, Vlad, Jr. had a disappointing rookie season. Bichette, Pearson, and others will have to come on strong for them to have a real shot at a WC.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Jml1950

          Judge didn’t get the ROY. Altuve cheated to win it. Judge deleted the post in which he congratulated Altuve.

          The Red Sox accused the Yanks of stealing signs. The Yanks were investigated. The Red Sox’s allegations were found to have “no merit.” No cameras. No sign stealing. Separately, the Yanks were fined for having a phone. No camera. No sign stealing.

          You have no evidence for your claim. You’re a liar. End of story.

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        • thetruth 2

          5 years ago

          I think you got it in reverse. Toronto have a weak rotation, weak bullpen outside of Giles and lineup full of hope. Red Sox have an above average bullpen, a top 5 lineup even without Betts and a shaky rotation with if healthy a top 5 starter.

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        • lilpartialbaldo

          5 years ago

          Weird comments. How is a 20 year old putting up a 2 WAR season a disappointment? And Jimenez did perfectly fine with the bat for a rookie.

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        • mustang66

          5 years ago

          It does make you wonder a bit though how the Yankees picked up all these guys off the trash heap and they turned into hitting stars

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        • JoeBrady

          5 years ago

          The red sox will finish 4th, battling toronto all season long
          ———————————————————
          So you’re assuming that you will beat out Baltimore again?

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        • jdgoat

          5 years ago

          Keep lying to yourself and calling out others. Looks real good on you, hypocrite.

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        • jmi1950

          5 years ago

          Why did the yanks illegally use the bullpen phone if not to cheat?

          Why did the yanks have a “YES” camera trained on the other teams bench coach –but never aired– if not to cheat?

          Joe Giradi admitted on MLB network to both illegalities without going into details

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        • Col. Taylor

          5 years ago

          Good um…. analytics ?

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        • MrAngelFan

          5 years ago

          Mo4Ever

          What are you talking about? Of course Judge won the ROY in 2017.. Altuve won the MVP in 2017, not ROY, over Judge.

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        • scudz

          5 years ago

          Mo4ever is a special kind of stupid. Do you even follow ball you tool…Judge didn’t lose rookie of the year to Altuve! LMAO! Go pick up your lego and stfu you moron

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Sorry MrAngelFan, scudz… brain fart. It happens. Wires crossed on ROY/MVP… Oh boy.

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        • hyraxwithaflamethrower

          5 years ago

          @baldo, When Vlad came up, it was as the #1 prospect in the game. He was supposed to be the favorite to win RoY. It wasn’t a bad year, necessarily, but it fell short of expectations. With Eloy, had it not been for a monster September, his year would have been not so great, too. He had a lot of HRs, but his average only became decent in September and his glove just poor. Neither finished even in the top 3 in RoY voting. Considering how highly they were regarded, that is a little disappointing. I still think they’ll be excellent ballplayers, though.

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        • metsie1

          5 years ago

          They were a 67 win team last season. Improve win total by 10 games they still not a .500 team. Man. I hate the Yankees but some here are delusional. With Boston having laid up for the year this is Yankees then Rays. No one else is close.

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        • bravesninersnation

          5 years ago

          Lmfao at scudz telling Mo4ever to pick up his legos and stfu

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          Bing. What is good coaching. Bing

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      • pasha2k

        5 years ago

        I think MO makes a lotta sense but even with injuries the Evil Empire will finish 1st, as they should with their team. The Rays are good should finish 2nd. The RS will hold up the rear! It’s a down yr for my RS.

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  11. bkbk

    5 years ago

    Yankees fans suddenly not guaranteeing anything

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      5 years ago

      In fairness, I’ve been surprised this year by the relative lack of “We’re guaranteed to win because we’ve won so many titles in the past,” arguments. They’ve witnessed what injuries can do and seen a team just collapse (Red Sox from 2018 – 2019), as well as other teams have meteoric rises (Twins from 2018 – 2019). I’m a White Sox fan who has long rooted against the Yankees, but they’re still the favorite this year, with Dodgers a close second.

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  12. jonnyzuck

    5 years ago

    I thought they got a new training staff, but apparently the injuries are starting early this year

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    • michaeljswag

      5 years ago

      Maybe that’s why it was caught now and not 3 months from now lol

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      • JoeBrady

        5 years ago

        OTOH, one could argue ‘why wasn’t it caught 3 month’s ago?’. I’m sure it is more complicated than that, but theoretically, couldn’t he have thrown on 11/1, 12/1, 1/1, etc.?

        It sounds a bit like Mo Vaughn. He hurt his bicep in September, but didn’t completely tear until the following spring training. Good luck Luis.

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  13. caldo19

    5 years ago

    It’s February. The Yankees can and will outspent the rest of the league for pitching. They will not allow this season to get away from them before it even starts.

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    • JaysForDays

      5 years ago

      And what starters are they buying exactly??? Market was picked clean already.

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      • CubbyBlue

        5 years ago

        Jordan Montgomery for Jose Quintana makes sense for both teams. Cubs get controllable starter, Yanks get established starter

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        • bencole

          5 years ago

          What?? The Cubs clearly aren’t rebuilding, at least now, and he’s recovering from TJ. I know you’re a Cubs fan, but the Cubs wouldn’t do that

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      5 years ago

      It costs more than money to acquire pitching; it costs talent too. NY’s farm has taken a hit recently so they may have to clear the cupboards if they need to add a legit #2 pitcher to their rotation. Not sure Cashman wants to do that.

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      • bencole

        5 years ago

        The Yankees farm, while there’s not a ton of high end talent close to ready, is supremely deep.

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  14. Rangers29

    5 years ago

    Ahhhh yes, thank you.. Severino and Paxton are out, now Cole has to carry the load without a co-ace, nice…

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      5 years ago

      I’m never going to cheer for an injury, even when I hate the team. Besides, that lineup is so ridiculous that they could set a new record for HR’s this year, even with the happy fun ball going away. Yankees will almost certainly win that division, even if Severino misses half the year.

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    • Coal tender

      5 years ago

      You wanna bet that the Yanks are on the phone discussing a Mike Minor deal with the Rangers?

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      • hockeyjohn

        5 years ago

        Why would Texas trade Minor? They are trying to build, not tear down.

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      • Rangers29

        5 years ago

        I wouldn’t hate it if Minor was traded to the Yankees, because he has 1 year left on his deal, and during last trade deadline there were some rumors saying the Rangers and Yankees were in talks about dealing Mike Minor for a package centered around Deivi Garcia which I would love. Please do.

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    • Rsox

      5 years ago

      It will be interesting to see how Cole does trying to live up to his mega contract in the pressure cooker that is New York without Verlander’s shadow to hide behind.

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      • MoRivera 1999

        5 years ago

        Cole already pitched in the pressure cooker of the Astros’ postseason. And he never hid behind Verlander’s shadow. Many would argue he stepped in front of Verlander last year. The only reason V won the CY was because of the no-hitter. Otherwise Cole was the better pitcher. The only reason Cole would falter is if he was using tar and stops… which, if he was, he should, even though that would be devastating.

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  15. Dorothy_Mantooth

    5 years ago

    Time for an opener in NY now!

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    • StPeteStingRays

      5 years ago

      But that’s sacrilege!

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      Definitely not the worst idea. 🙂

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  16. RBGScott

    5 years ago

    Jeez. “Happy Birthday, Luis! You’re shut down”.

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  17. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    5 years ago

    What’s with all these injuries to SP’s this year? Clevinger, Carrasco, Paxton, now Severino? Am I forgetting anyone?

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    • fourth_dimension

      5 years ago

      Mikolas.

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      • hyraxwithaflamethrower

        5 years ago

        Not as high profile, but yes, him too. Thanks for the addition.

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        • fourth_dimension

          5 years ago

          Cardinals’ #2 starter. I would say it is a pretty big deal. Just doesn`t get the same press because he isn`t a Yankee, Red Sox, or Dodgers’ pitcher.

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  18. smileytr

    5 years ago

    scott Kazmir is looking to come back lol

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    • solaris602

      5 years ago

      Good point! I have no idea what the guy’s got left, but he’d be worth a flyer this early in ST. Could at least compete for a rotation spot on a minors deal.

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  19. ben4ben

    5 years ago

    When no one is shocked

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  20. imindless

    5 years ago

    Lol yankees arent close winning world series. Outside of cole a pretty weak rotation and now already down paxton and now severino. Big lol

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      Says the Dodgers fan, fan of a team that hasn’t won since ’88.

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      • Priggs89

        5 years ago

        In his head, they won in ‘17

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        • Eatdust666

          5 years ago

          And ’18, but in reality, even if the Asterisks and PED Sox were stripped of their 2017 and 2018 World Series titles, respectively they would likely just remain vacated, just like Reggie Bush’s Heisman Trophy.

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  21. jdgoat

    5 years ago

    They need to fire their medical department it’s just ridiculous how much this has happened.

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      I think they already did. You’re right though, it’s ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous.

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  22. astick

    5 years ago

    The boys have been doing the best for you and you have to get them done. I’m going back home now I just have a couple minutes.

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  23. raysdaze

    5 years ago

    Sounds like NY could very well be without their 2/3 guys for all/most of the season. That leaves cole, Tanaka…and a bunch of sore parts while TB has McKay, Honeywell, Banda, Ryan, Richards, Beeks, etc in Durham.

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    • Boogaloo

      5 years ago

      Lol, Yanks have “sore parts” but the mighty rays have the great beeks in waiting, lol

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      • yandymania

        5 years ago

        Yankee fan: cherry picks beeks who is last on that list behind two top pitching prospects in the game and an at least average 4/5 starter in richards. Never change Yankee fan

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  24. StPeteStingRays

    5 years ago

    Can we revisit that poll from the other day? I think the Rays’ chances just increased by 5%. Sucks for the player, tho.

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      5 years ago

      Depends on the recovery time. As others have said, a “loose body” typically requires surgery. If it’s only 6-8 weeks, he misses the first month of the season and it’s not that huge a deal.

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      • StPeteStingRays

        5 years ago

        Forearm soreness scares the s@#t out of me, and I always go to worst-case scenario: TJ… I feel for the guy.
        My man Brent Honeywell is on the path to recovery after 2 scary injuries.

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      • raysdaze

        5 years ago

        If he missed “only” 6-8 weeks he’d still have to go through extended spring training, rehab, etc…but I’d presume youll be hearing about a Dr Andrews visit soon.

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  25. HalosHeavenJJ

    5 years ago

    Serious question. Do the Yanks have much AAA depth or even some AAAA type guys in camp on minor league deals?

    Looks like that depth will be tested early. But with this lineup and bullpen 5 mediocre innings should still give the Yanks a chance to win on plenty of nights.

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  26. DarkSide830

    5 years ago

    seems like everyone’s just picking up where they left off last year

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  27. billysbballz

    5 years ago

    Wow!!! Just wow. Last season was an injury a week. 3 before ST games start. Maybe it’s just precautionary?
    So now the order is:
    1-Cole
    2-Tanaka
    3-Happ
    4-Montgomery
    5-Garcia, King, or another dark horse

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  28. whyhayzee

    5 years ago

    He has a loose body in his elbow?

    The king cake baby?

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      And you’re the kinda guy who’s glad about it. Small, mean-spirited.

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      • whyhayzee

        5 years ago

        Who said I’m glad?

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          The attitude and persona your words have so carefully crafted over time reflect who you are as a person and can easily be used to predict how you’ll feel and what you’ll say about anything involving the Yankees.

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        • whyhayzee

          5 years ago

          I’m either 11 or retired, but either way my words are carefully crafted. They hand keys huck.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          You’re a retired guy who acts like a bleating 11-year-old Red Sox fan who hates the Yankees more than he likes the Red Sox. Much more. Your words aren’t carefully crafted; your words have carefully crafted your hating persona…

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  29. ThePeople'sElbow

    5 years ago

    start panicking NY

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      5 years ago

      No reason to. Their lineup is arguably the best in the majors and I’d still take their rotation (after injuries) over the Twins’ rotation. They should still take the division unless they sustain serious injuries to at least two more regulars.

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      • MetsFan22

        5 years ago

        Lol

        Voit
        Gardner
        Urshela
        Tauchamn

        Doesn’t come close to best lineup.

        They had 3 teams in their division with single A pitching and over performed. Their little league stadium also helped… overrated team.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Voit (.842 OPS, 124 OPS+) and Urshela (.889 OPS, 133 OPS+) are actually pluses. Gardner had 4.0 WAR last year. And Tauchman shined for his brief (260 AB) appearance on the big stage (865 OPS, 128 OPS+); but he’s not even a starter; he’s the 4th OF; bwahaha. And those are the, ahem, “weak” links; meanwhile you’re ignoring, of course, DJL, Judge, Stanton, Torres, Sanchez, and Andujar. I’m a bit concerned about the rotation now, but I still like the lineup.

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        • MetsFan22

          5 years ago

          Yeah but a lot of those stats come against the Redsoxs,blue jays, and orioles. AAA pitching staffs lol. I expect them to do good again this year bc of that but when it’s playoff time nobody is scared of those hitters. And most of your really good hitters also strike a lot. It’s not close to the best lineup.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Tell me what other lineup has .800+ OPS top to bottom?

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        • Rudy Zolteck

          5 years ago

          Houston already had a higher team OPS and wRC+, Maybe MIN, Dodgers will come out strong.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          The differences between team OPS for HOU, MIN, and NYY are rounding errors (a range of .829 to .848). The Yankees scored more runs, though that was also in rounding error range (920 – 943). But I believe the NYY are the only balanced team with .800+ OPS up and down the order, which is helpful in multiple ways. First, everyone “protects” everyone else; pitcher can’t just pitch around anyone. Second, it minimizes the hit for any one player going down to injury. Last, there is the question as to whether or not HOU stole signs last year.

          The net net: I don’t think the NYY are the top lineup, but I do think they are among them, and I think that was the claim put on the table above, where the MetsFan dude say they aren’t close to the top. That’s just hater B.S.

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        • MetsFan22

          5 years ago

          If the Mets faced the orioles, redsoxs, and blue jays 19 times each they would have that…

          The Mets could do that next year if cano goes back to form. Rosario is expected to reach 800 this year and Ramos could definitely have a 800 ops
          The rest of the hitters we have do it in their sleep and we aren’t even counting ces, Smith or lowrie who if they aren’t affected by injuries could do it too as backups.

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        • Rudy Zolteck

          5 years ago

          I agree that they are close to the top. Didn’t see that part. I think Houston’s lineup is just as deep, even though C will likely be bad. But “not close to the top” is just wrong, lol

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        • MetsFan22

          5 years ago

          Lineup

          Nimmo 800+
          McNeil close to 900
          Alonso 900+
          Conforto close to 900
          Davis close to 900
          Cano 790-810
          Ramos 800+
          Rosario 800+

          Bench

          Ces 800+
          Smith 800+
          Lowrie 760-830
          Marisnick 700
          Nido 650

          If my predictions are correct thats a better lineup than Yankees

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Agreed, Youknowwhatthisiscalled?…

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          MetsFan

          Predictions?!!! Pfft!!! I’m talking ACTUAL HISTORICAL!!! What a joke you are. Put the actuals out there… I know Cano, for example, was .736. LOL. Nimmo was .783. Davis was .631!! Ramos was .768. Get real dude.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Nimmo .783
          Ramos – .768
          Amed Rosario – 7.55
          Cano – .736
          Davis – .631

          That leaves you with THREE hitters with .800+ OPS (McNeil, Alonso, Conforto). VS. NINE for the NYY, just among starters. They have at least one more on the bench.

          Cespedes – .826??? (MAYBE; will he play again? You can hardly pencil Cespedes in for .800+ at this point)
          Lowrie – .748 (career)
          Smith – .708
          Marisnick – .700
          Nido – .547

          Get outta town. dude.

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        • MetsFan22

          5 years ago

          Nimmo was hurt last year and didn’t play full year. He played a full year in 2018 and had an ops of 800+…
          Davis had a ops close to 900 last year…
          Ramos could definitely have a year like 2018 again…
          And cano was also hurt…

          Try harder next time dude…

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        • MetsFan22

          5 years ago

          Nimmo didn’t play even half a year last year and you’re using that ops lol… use his full year with no injuries…
          Davis ops?? Where did you get if from.. his like 10 games as a Astro lol!
          Smith… let’s just forget last year…..
          Lowrie before last year had back to back 800 ops seasons..
          Rosario has gotten better every year and his 2nd half ops was over 800. He’ll pass 800 this year…..
          Ramos can’t have a 800 ops dude your right. I forgot that Gary sanchez had a ops below 700 in 18….
          You’re clueless dude

          That’s at worst 6-7 800+ ops bats right there.. and let me tell you something if they all played against the Orioles, jays and redsoxs 19 times And their team played in a little league stadium their ops would all be above 800 and the Yankees wouldn’t have 6-7 above 800

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        • vtadave

          5 years ago

          Davis’ OPS was .896. You can look this stuff up.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          You think the NYY players didn’t have trials and tribulations last year? They set the record for injuries. Get real.

          You’re making stuff up cause you don’t have an argument.

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  30. Dan LeBlanc

    5 years ago

    Forearm problems are usually a harbinger for elbow issues. This does not bode well for Severino. Tommy John might be knocking on the door.

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  31. pjmcnu

    5 years ago

    Dr. James Andrews…paging Dr. Andrews…

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    • Priggs89

      5 years ago

      I’d put money on him needing TJ

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  32. Fg-3

    5 years ago

    So worried! lol won 100 w/o him last year. Got plenty of young arms to get through spring. And best pen in game still.. oops forgot about the murderers row lineup. Man I’m shaking

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    • pjmcnu

      5 years ago

      You will lose in Game 7 of the LCS. Again. Because the Astros will cheat, and you won’t be able to do anything about it. Just accept it now.

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      • BartoloHRball

        5 years ago

        If The Astros go to game 7 against the Yankees in 2020….I’m rooting for the Meteor!! #Meteor2020

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    • fred-3

      5 years ago

      Murders row that goes limp every playoffs… that signed or traded for no one to improve their line-up

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  33. fred-3

    5 years ago

    And just like that, 40% of the Yankees rotation is down for the foreseeable future. And Tanaka is always a lock to miss 5-10 starts a year

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    • Steve Adams

      5 years ago

      Tanaka has averaged 30 games and 179 innings per season over the past four years.

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      • driftcat28 2

        5 years ago

        Lol Steve with the facts, love it

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      • fred-3

        5 years ago

        Damn it, Steve. Let me troll in peace

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  34. dimelotitony

    5 years ago

    Its another blow but good teams are built for this exact reason even if Healthy they were not going to push Severino too much. Maybe the Yankees take a flier on E.Santana, M.Harvey, A.Sanchez, M.Estrada just to hold the forte until Severino gets healthier or when Domingo German comes back. Bottom line injuries are part of the game it is how you adapt that sets apart from the bad teams vs good teams.

    The mantra with the Yankees is next man up either King, Garcia,Loasiga,Abreu gets handpicked or they go and sign low radar like the ones above.

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  35. bbatardo

    5 years ago

    Yankees will be fine… Only the Rays will challenge them in that division.

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  36. MetsFan22

    5 years ago

    Most talented piece of glass in the MLB.

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    • dimelotitony

      5 years ago

      Are you talking about Thor & Matz combo that can’t stay healthy or inconsistencies since arriving to the Majors?

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      • MetsFan22

        5 years ago

        thor and matz who pitched the whole year last year?? Yeah good luck with severino this year.. lol

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        • dimelotitony

          5 years ago

          Thor/Matz last 5 years have pitched 222 games between them
          Severino/Paxton last 5 years have pitched 213 games between them

          thor 119 games/5 years
          matz 103 games/5 years
          Severino 99 games/5years
          Paxton 114 games/5 years

          All have an injury history on their side the difference between the Mets vs Yankees is the Yankees can absorb those kind of hits while the Mets can’t and will crumble to the ground.

          This is why year in and year out the Yankees have maintained excellence finishing above .500 in all sports because they are able to absorb these kind of hurdles.

          Basically Mets, Nets & Jets are built from the same cloth…..

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        • whynot 2

          5 years ago

          Amazing insight, tell us more

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        • MetsFan22

          5 years ago

          And after this year the difference would be more… and I’m not talking about Paxton. I said severino. Dude is about to be out for a while lol . Let’s see how far both teams go this year….

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Yeah, “lol”, MetsFan22. Let’s have a good laugh over a guy getting injured.

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        • MetsFan22

          5 years ago

          I’m happy as hell rn lol

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Because you’re a lowlife jerk with no character.

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        • Rudy Zolteck

          5 years ago

          About dudes getting hurt? Get a new hobby man. Not cool.

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    • DarkSide830

      5 years ago

      Danny Salazar is more fragile and possibly more talented

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  37. driftcat28 2

    5 years ago

    Welp, 2019 all over again

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      You mean 2 injuries down, 28 to go. It’s not good to see these injuries to Paxton and Severino but we are no where near where we got last year. Last year Severino and Betances went down for the season. All position starters except DJL and Gardner were down multiple months. Stanton had 59 AB’s. Britton lost weeks. It was a disaster.

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  38. prov356

    5 years ago

    That’s a shame. I know what that’s like as an Angles fan to lose rotation pieces before the season starts. Hope it’s just minor and he can be ready.

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    • prov356

      5 years ago

      My favorite is a right Angle.

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      • filthyrich

        5 years ago

        That’s acute choice.
        Sometimes I can be obtuse, especially since my favourite angle was wrecked.
        Not sure which angle to try next.

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        • MrAngelFan

          5 years ago

          You guys are confused. Clearly reflex angles are greater than all other angles.

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    • Just_a_thought

      5 years ago

      I truly appreciate all the different angles taken to cleverly point out the original poster’s critical spelling error.

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      • prov356

        5 years ago

        The original poster is a bonehead – wait, it’s me.

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  39. mlbnyyfan

    5 years ago

    What else is new Yankees and more injuries. Go get Matt Harvey bring the Dark Knight back to Gotham

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  40. Koamalu

    5 years ago

    Yankees #2 and #3 starters down for an extended period. German is gone too. Tanaka and Happ are innings eaters but their production was below league average last season. Definitely just #4 and #5 starters. Even with Cole at the top the Yankees are going to be hurting until the Paxton and Severino are back. So much for a 100 win season.

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    • Just_a_thought

      5 years ago

      That’s one way to think about it, here’s another. This Yankees team won 100 games without severino and cole last year. Winning 100 is never an easy task, but, it’s very premature to truly think the Yankees cannot win 100 games in 2020

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      • MoRivera 1999

        5 years ago

        Heck, it’s even premature to think Severino is out, or that he’s out for long.

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  41. RickEO

    5 years ago

    Doesn’t really matter since they won World Series already when they signed Cole

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    • CardsFan77

      5 years ago

      Really RickEO? Supposedly the Astros had won the WS last year once they signed Greinke…. They couldnt even cheat and win! Cole will not bring a title to the Bronx… Cole will bring inflated payroll and decent pitching but absolutely not a title.

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      • MoRivera 1999

        5 years ago

        I think Rick was being facetious/snide. Cole brings an Ace to the rotation, which is a must have for the WS. But you still need at least two more strong SP’s. Tanaka is a maybe as a 3 if he has a good year, but better as a 4. Yanks were much better with Cole, Paxton, Severino. Cole, Tanaka, Happ is a no go. Now Paxton and German are due back by June, so presumably they will be there for the postseason. Cole, Paxton, German, Tanaka, Happ would probably suffice. But it would be better if Severino came back. Cole, Paxton, Severino as the top 3 for the WS would be sweet. And having German and Tanaka as swingmen would be sweet, too.

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        • RickEO

          5 years ago

          Thanks Mo

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  42. Dorothy_Mantooth

    5 years ago

    Another thing you can bank on is Judge, Stanton & Sanchez spending some time on the IL this season. Their bodies just can’t hold up for all 162 games. So the Yankees training staff has to do all they can to keep their horses as healthy as possible this season if their rotation is in flux. I have less faith in Tauchman, Urshela, Gardner & Voit carrying the lineup again this year.

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  43. echozulu88

    5 years ago

    2020: The Astros have unlocked – Voodoo Dolls

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    • StPeteStingRays

      5 years ago

      I hope they don’t bang the dolls, ewwww.

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      • Eatdust666

        5 years ago

        Yikes

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  44. mlbnyyfan

    5 years ago

    Yankees should of traded for Kluber. I can’t believe the Rangers were able to get him for a spare tire and a bucket of balls.

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    • StPeteStingRays

      5 years ago

      Yes, they should have…

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  45. Who_Farted

    5 years ago

    Maybe teams should implement a post season examine for players, or mid offseason examine to catch these issues a little earlier. Seems so many players have injuries/surgeries show up just at start of spring training that may been able to repair, or start rehab on early not causing them to miss start or until mid season?

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  46. Goose

    5 years ago

    The Yankees have so many health issues after Cole. If Severino is already out it is not a great sign to run away with the division. The problem with the Yankees is they are the 82 Brew Crew, Harvey Wallbangers. Not a lot of great pitching but offense that bludgeons you to death. Built to win but not in the playoffs.

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  47. Charlies_papa

    5 years ago

    That’s why offseason predictions can be used to wipe your ass.

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  48. qbass187

    5 years ago

    Another over hyped Yankee prospect bites the dust.

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    • BartoloHRball

      5 years ago

      Severino was actually one of their recent prospects that I actually believed was worth the hype. He put up some impressive numbers prior to injury. Remember how Frazier was the second coming? Joba was supposed to be Clemens v2.0? How about Jesus Montero?

      All teams have plenty of prospects who don’t pan out…but the Yankees and their fans over-hype nearly every guy, so I see it as fair game to bring reality back into the conversation.

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      • dimelotitony

        5 years ago

        Frazier was hyped when he was with the Cleveland Indians as a lightening bat and he still does have that speed what he doesnt display is defense but the Yankees were not the one’s hyping him up as a Rookie since he was in the minor leagues across baseball he was being mentioned a lot.

        As for Severino not only the Yankees were in awe of his talent so was Pedro Martinez amongst opposing scouts with the stuff he has.

        The Yankees hyped up Chamberlain and they should have left him as a Reliever where he was lights out but they messed with his head, As for Betances he was hyped and lived to that billing as one of the most dominant relievers. Then you have Hughes whom was up and down and never lived up the potential he should have demonstrated.

        Bottom line a lot of teams do have to hype up their players in order to try and squeeze more talent in potential trades or to provide that player with confidence they believe in you.

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        • JoeBrady

          5 years ago

          The Yankees hyped up Chamberlain and they should have left him as a Reliever where he was lights out
          ———————————————-
          Alleliua!

          I thought I was the only one who thought that. The day they decided that he wasn’t a starter, he should’ve been traded. I thought, as soon as I saw him, that he was one of the best 2-3-4 RPs in BB. Unfortunately, or fortunately since I am a RS fan, I think the NYY insisted on going with some old guy at closer. I think that is what forced them into forcing Joba.

          But he could’ve been really good as closer.

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      Nothing overhyped about Severino. In 2017 at 23 he went 14-6 with a 2.98 ERA and 3.08 FIP. In 2018 the dude went 19-8 with 3.38 ERA, 2.95 FIP and 4.8 WAR. At 24 years old. Last year when he came back for 3 games at the end of the season he had a 1.50 ERA and 2.13 FIP., showing he still had it. He’s got arm trouble. That doesn’t mean he’s an over-hyped prospect. He had a better year in 2018 than 90% of all the pitchers out there. Hardly over-hyped. And hardly has he bitten the dust. Worthless, laughably biased hater.

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    • Just_a_thought

      5 years ago

      This is such a good example of blindly hating a team because it shows your utter lack of fundamental and basic baseball understanding. You just demonstrated that you don’t even know what a prospect is. If you wanna turn around and try and say you were trolling, just don’t because you can’t even do that well. You are a wannabe troll, if that’s what you were aiming for, then I suppose I’ll leave you with a “congrats” and a “how sad.”

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    • Goose

      5 years ago

      Severino has the most talent to come up through the Yankee’s systems since Andy Pettitte. He had the pedigree of the real deal. He just can’t seem to shake the injury bug. If healthy, he and Cole would make a good 1-2. If this is TJ coming the Yankees will need to make a big deal at the deadline to get a good #2 for the playoffs. Maybe it is Verlander from the Astros or Scherzer from the Nationals if they have a fall back season. Both are older but shouldn’t cost a boat load of top prospects.

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  49. desertbull

    5 years ago

    Forearm = elbow = trouble

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  50. snake120

    5 years ago

    Now starting for the New York Yankees ,,,,,Bartolo “big sexy” Colon!!

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      Please no to Big Sexy. Just no on every level. He is over-hyped and at this point a bad pitcher. I wish people would stop talking about him and let him fade into the sunset. But that’s just me.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        5 years ago

        What’s not to like about Bartolo? The guy is affable and loves baseball and life. He’s had a long tremendous career. I once (or maybe twice) watched him stretch pre-game and was amazed with his flexibility with that body-type. It was sexy and he won the game.

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  51. Fg-3

    5 years ago

    I’ll take Big Sexy any day!
    And to Fred… we added a healthy Stanton and Andujar to our line up. If that’s enough! Lol yanks went 7 in 2017.. and 6 in 2019 in Alcs. How bout those Rays!! And A’s and twins! Lol y’all can wish injuries and I’ll will on a team that’s destined to be a dynasty again! Lol

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    • Goose

      5 years ago

      I hope you have a fastball in the mid-90’s because at this pace you will be in the rotation by June.

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  52. oldtimeyankee6242

    5 years ago

    ( COUNT DOWN ) 3 down 6 to go.

    Reply
  53. Scrap1ron

    5 years ago

    Tommy can you hear me?
    Can you feel me near you?
    Tommy can you see me?
    Can I help to cheer you?

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  54. its_happening

    5 years ago

    Didn’t the Yankees have injury problems last year? How many wins did they have?

    Better questions; why are they injury-prone and did Joe Girardi out them as cheaters on the MLB Network? I am just asking a question and not jumping to conclusions (cough….Apple Watches).

    Blue Jays fans need to scale it back. If they reach 80 wins that is a nice improvement from 2019 considering they won 67 games. That along with the fierce competition they will face in New York, Tampa and Boston. Boston will still be tough. Their lineup is still potent. Anything more than 80 wins from Toronto is a good accomplishment considering where they were last year.

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    • jaysfansince1977

      5 years ago

      Yeah and you were saying the same in 2015, Then we caught ya, then we surpassed you, then we won the Al East!! Last season you went 11-8 against us, not really dominate!
      GO JAYS GO!!!
      FEAR THE TRUE NORTH!!!

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      • its_happening

        5 years ago

        I’m a Jays fan, strike 1 kid.

        Blue Jays should have been in the playoffs in 2014 had the GM cared about winning a year sooner. Strike 2.

        The same Blue Jays who were .500 until the Tulo trade, motivated by a GM looking for a new contract and to stick it to the new President. Strike 3.

        If the Yankees are healthier than last year, that 11-8 could be a whole lot better. The Blue Jays have waaaaaay more to prove than the Yankees right now.

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  55. wjf010

    5 years ago

    Which 4 – 40 contract will the yankees end up regretting more….Severino….or Pavano?

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  56. brucenewton

    5 years ago

    Stressed ligaments seem to be a thing there in NY.

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  57. Astros44

    5 years ago

    At least you guys have another excuse ready to go when the Astros are better than the yankees again

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    • ctguy

      5 years ago

      So you’re saying the Asstros are going to cheat again?

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  58. JoeBrady

    5 years ago

    IMHO, the NYY rushed him. He pitched 113.1 in 2014 at age 20. He should’ve been restricted to 143 in 2015 at age 21. He would up 161.2 in 2015. Not a huge difference, but still….

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  59. hollowman7777

    5 years ago

    Just a matter of time before Mandred institutes under hand pitching in order to protect pitchers.

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    • billysbballz

      5 years ago

      Bernie Sanders already wayed in demanding that all grand slams hit that the team in the field is awarded 2 of the runs!

      Reply
  60. Thomas Lane

    5 years ago

    this off season just keeps getting better for Tampa

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  61. dgrfns52

    5 years ago

    wait until next week when Judge and Stanton go done…

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  62. jacd11

    5 years ago

    Maybe NYY need better pitching developers/coordinators. Awful light of injuries. Sonny Gray benefited from leaving. NYY can’t get out of their division with a healthy staff anyway. Maybe wild card. LAA will more than likely represent the AL this year.

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    • coupofthecentury

      5 years ago

      LAA… wait, huh?

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      • jacd11

        5 years ago

        And the Dodgers beat them in the Series. Who are you taking?

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      5 years ago

      Sony Gray was resistant to NY’s pitching philosophy of increasing his pitch spin rate so that created tension between him and management. He didn’t buy in fully to this strategy and it didn’t work out (a poor fit if you will) but I’m glad he found success again after he left. They do have a new pitching director but the issues with Paxton and Severino preceeds him. Tests for Sevy were negative but it is a reoccuring concern.

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  63. Bustedstuff88

    5 years ago

    Open the bottomless wallet and just buy someone else Spankees

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      5 years ago

      Who’s left to buy? McHugh, maybe, but he’s not exactly Severino-quality. If the Yankees are going to fortify their rotation in a meaningful way, they’ll have to trade to do it. Unless the recovery time is longer than 2 months, though, I don’t think it’s necessary.

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      • Moneyballer

        5 years ago

        There’s no one left. They would have to make a desperate trade and unload some blue-chippers if they want to add to their rotation. It would be a bad idea!

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  64. bigbadjohnny

    5 years ago

    Tampa Rays…..your 2020 AL East Champions !

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  65. top jimmy

    5 years ago

    I’m starting to think Severino is too fragile to handle the workload of a starter. May be better used as a closer.

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    • GGERM

      5 years ago

      Yankees are overrated.

      Their pitching is compromised.
      Their position players are ‘meh.

      No playoffs.

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      • Moneyballer

        5 years ago

        Cmon. I hate the yanks just like most of America but this is still a very very good team! Probably the class of the AL if they can just stay healthy!

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        • LaFlamaBlanca

          5 years ago

          *if they can stay healthy* hahhaha what a joke. The same “IFs” can be used for 29 other team narratives. However you don’t win games on ifs lol. Fact of the matter is yanks are without severino and paxton and probably for quite a few months. Forearm pain/strain with a high octane delivery more than likely means tommy john at some point down the road.

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  66. angt222

    5 years ago

    Best thing for him. Yanks have the depth to get by until he’s 100% healthy.

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      I’m hoping the negative CT Scans mean he’s ready to go soon. I don’t think they do have the depth. Not with Paxton and German out. Cole/Tanaka/Happ/Montgomery is NOT an inspiring 1-4, and the cast for #5 (Loasiga, King, Garcia) is downright scary. Without Sevy and with Paxton and German on the sidelines, this is no longer a Win Now team. It’s a Try to Hang in There Close team.

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  67. okiguess

    5 years ago

    It’s such a joke to have any pitcher go down with this type of injury at the very start of spring training. In this case they knew at the end of last season there was an issue. What did they do all winter?

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    • Moneyballer

      5 years ago

      prayed it was nothing. not nothing.

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  68. Moneyballer

    5 years ago

    Paxton down, German suspended, Severino down. This rotation is in flux!! Bet they are glad they didn’t deal J.A, Happ now, he will be needed!

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  69. Moneyballer

    5 years ago

    Is anyone surprised? Look at the way he throws! He puts a ton of stress on that elbow to create the sink he needs to be effective. It was only a matter of time for it break down.

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  70. frankiegxiii

    5 years ago

    sabr.org/latest/woodrum-predicting-tommy-john-surg…

    Here’s a link for anyone else who was interested in the article mentioned about predicting which pitchers might need TJ surgery.

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  71. tbslim

    5 years ago

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Yankees go out and spend RECORD MONEY for one arm to try to win a title again after SO many years.

    And then lose TWO ARMS before the first spring training game.

    And they STILL won’t get the 2017 trophy.

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      Glad to see you’re happy about guys getting injured. We were wondering what kind of character you had. Now we know. Low. You have low character.

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    • ctguy

      5 years ago

      Cheaters got the 2017 trophy

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  72. tbslim

    5 years ago

    Don’t worry Yankee fans. For all that money, maybe COLE can pitch all 162 games.

    Reply
    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      See above.

      Reply
  73. Matt_Angel_Bronco_Laker

    5 years ago

    Hate a team as much as you want, but don’t celebrate injuries. It shows a lack of class.

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    • Rudy Zolteck

      5 years ago

      Right on

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  74. Rsox

    5 years ago

    As much as everyone is touting the Yankees depth (which is already being tested and they haven’t even played an exhibition game yet) you can be certain Cashman is going to be watching the waiver wire and working the phones to see who may be available towards the end of camp

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  75. fred-3

    5 years ago

    Judge, Sanchez, and Severino all peaked in 2017

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    • stansfield123

      5 years ago

      So stupid.

      Reply
      • fred-3

        5 years ago

        Am I wrong? Judge is great, but he’s not going to have an 8 win season again, Sanchez has regressed from 2017, and Severino is an oft-injured pitcher

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  76. brucenewton

    5 years ago

    Yanks will miss the playoffs.

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    • stansfield123

      5 years ago

      Lol. They won 103 last year, without Gerrit Cole, Stanton, Severino and Andujar. So even if Sevy’s out, they’re still adding three All Star level players to a 103 win team.

      The Dodgers and Yankees should not even be playing the regular season. There’s no point.

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      • Rudy Zolteck

        5 years ago

        If you really meant that last part then you can’t act surprised when other fans start swinging back at LAD/NYY fans on forums man. The same was probably said by a couple people about the Sox going into 2019.

        Reply
      • OilCanLloyd

        5 years ago

        Yankee fans: It doesn’t matter, daddy will buy me a new one!

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      • MoRivera 1999

        5 years ago

        “The Dodgers and Yankees should not even be playing the regular season. There’s no point.” – stansfield123

        Dude that’s just no help at all. EVERYONE hates arrogance. You’re just giving Yankee’s fans a black eye and putting a target on our backs. Sheesh! No thank you.

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      • Rsox

        5 years ago

        If it’s a forgone conclusion that the Yankees and Dodgers are going to play in the World Series why should any team bother to play the season at all.

        A lot can happen over the coarse of 162 games. A lot can happen just getting to game 1 of the season.

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  77. jmaverik

    5 years ago

    Sorry for Severino. So glad for the fake outrage Stankies. I’m sure this is somehow the Astros fault. I hope Judge and that 90 homer guy Stanton are next. Stop making excuses and play the frickin game. No one is going to agree to give you a championship. Embarrassing with your payroll you don’t win every year. LOSERS!!’

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    • MoRivera 1999

      5 years ago

      “I hope Judge and that 90 homer guy Stanton are next.”

      Wishing injuries upon people. Man of low character. I rest my case.

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      • ctguy

        5 years ago

        Actually no character…..and not a man either

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        • jmaverik

          5 years ago

          And neither are Judge and Stanton. – just whiny losers.

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  78. TradeRumorUser

    5 years ago

    wow first Paxton now severino. for $300 mil Yankees better hope cole can pitch back to back days going 9 each time

    Reply
    • jmaverik

      5 years ago

      You mean the guy who. was a cheater? The Stankies are counting on a cheater? A teammate of the guy who didn’t want his shirt ripped off after clubbing that loser reliever Chapman of theirs? I guess “cheaters” are okay as long as they play for the Yanks. See long line of steroid users.

      Reply
  79. fitsiqis65

    5 years ago

    Yanks will just fine. Just need to get to October with Cole healthy and Pax back at 100%

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