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Latest On Boston’s Rotation

By Darragh McDonald | March 4, 2020 at 9:03pm CDT

Ever since last week’s news that Chris Sale will begin the 2020 season on the injured list, there has been much speculation about how the Red Sox would fill his absence. Even though it currently seems that he won’t need to go under the knife for Tommy John surgery, the team will still need to replace him in some fashion.

It was recently revealed that the Boston brass are open-minded as to how they go about filling Sale’s innings, having put the opener strategy on the table.

Jason Mastrodonato of The Boston Herald spoke with Red Sox manager Ron Roenicke, who gave some details about a presentation from chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom. (Bloom, of course, was with the Rays when they pioneered the use of the opener.)

Roenicke outlined that they are still considering using two openers, as well as using some pitchers to “pitch three innings every three days.”

It seems the approach is still in a very speculative stage. One element being considered is the stretching out of Darwinzon Hernández. Before last year, Hernández had primarily been a starter in the minors. But 2019 saw him oscillate between starting and the bullpen, making 12 starts and and five appearances at two minor levels to go along with one start and 28 relief appearances in the big leagues. What form his contribution will take in 2020 seems to still be up in the air.

“We talked about it again a couple days ago,” Roenicke said, “and I think that talk is probably going to continue on with him. Especially the better he does at more innings, we’ll probably keep talking about it. Maybe he’s at two innings and then goes to three. Then we’re like, ‘OK, do we try this guy and see how he does starting?’ Those conversations I imagine will probably happen through the years.”

Another name to watch out for is Ryan Weber, according to Peter Abraham of The Boston Globe. Abraham notes that the Red Sox are trying to maximize Weber’s five-pitch mix by increasing the use of his cutter.

Much like Hernández, Weber’s position within the staff doesn’t seem to be locked down. But that doesn’t seem to be bothering him. “If I get the ball in the first inning or the third inning, I’m going to pitch the way I pitch,” Weber said. “I’m comfortable starting or relieving.” Weber made 16 starts for the AAA Pawtucket Red Sox in 2019. But at the big league level, only three of his 18 appearances were starts.

The bottom line seems to be that all options are being kept open for now.  As Roenicke says, “I think we’re still hoping that one of these guys that we’re looking at in camp is going to ‘wow’ us basically and we know we can go with him as a starter every fifth day,” he said. “So I think that’s what we’re waiting for.”

If Hernández and Weber don’t provide that ’wow’ factor, Boston does have other options, as recently outlined by MLBTR’s Connor Byrne. Though the Fenway faithful will surely be hoping for Sale’s speedy recovery and that whatever emergency measures are required are only temporary fixes.

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66 Comments

  1. bigbadjohnny

    5 years ago

    Red Sox falling fast……maybe a 4th place team in 2020.

    Yankees have their problems…….injuries, injuries and more injuries……

    Rays will run this division……

    Blue Jays have a future…..

    Orioles are just terrible.

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    • Begamin

      5 years ago

      Yankees won 103 games with more injuries than this year thus far. Idk why youre just expecting the Rays to take over the division

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      • Valkyrie

        5 years ago

        But but but the Yankees won 103 games but but but

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      • I ❤ Sports

        5 years ago

        God forbid should someone think that the Yankees aren’t the #1, or aren’t constantly on everyone’s mind, can’t do it all & have no competition.

        Reply
        • rocky7

          5 years ago

          Another Yankee HATER heard from….always like starting my day the these types of negative comments.

          Reply
    • just here for the comments

      5 years ago

      Red Sox aren’t that bad off. Still have a solid team.

      Yankees injuries, how did having 30 different players hit the IL affect them last year?

      Rays are very good, but Yankees are still the Yankees.

      Blue Jays have 3-4 very good youngsters and no pitching.

      That whole comment was just terrible.

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      • I ❤ Sports

        5 years ago

        Yankees are still the Yankees. What does that even mean? Dodgers are still the Dodgers, Nationals are still the Nationals. See how stupid all that sounds?

        Reply
        • rocky7

          5 years ago

          Too much Caffeine this morning? What’s your point and more importantly what’s your problem?

          Reply
        • I ❤ Sports

          5 years ago

          I don’t drink anything with caffeine, thanks for asking. If you had to ask what’s my point then you aren’t reading or more than likely comprehending comments other than my own.

          Reply
        • its_happening

          5 years ago

          You drank something….

          Yankees are the team that overcame injuries last year and probably will again because they are still a loaded offensive powerhouse with an ace in their rotation.

          Just here for the Comments was pretty much spot-on.

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    • all in the suit that you wear

      5 years ago

      Looks like the Sox will achieve their no. 1 goal of resetting the luxury tax and not be competitive in 2020.

      Reply
      • Ejemp2006

        5 years ago

        Sox have the best hitting SS, 3B, and DH in the league. They’ve got one of the top defensive OF in baseball. Every bullpen is a wild card at the beginning of a season. So they’re just as good/bad as anyone there.
        Plus Pedroia will be back at MVP form soon too. This ain’t a list year fools.

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        • ShieldF123

          5 years ago

          @Ejemp

          Hoping you’re trolling, because the alternative is that you’re just that stupid.

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        • Occams_hairbrush

          5 years ago

          It wasn’t all that bad until Pedroia…MVP…then ??????

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        • Strike Four

          5 years ago

          Imagine thinking Devers is a better hitter than Matt Chapman – LOL

          Reply
        • rocky7

          5 years ago

          You crack us up….especially the Pedroia comment!

          Reply
        • I ❤ Sports

          5 years ago

          @Ejemp2006 Ugh, what are you smoking man? Won WS 2018, barely getting over .500 in 2019 with the same players, trying to get under the luxury tax in 2020 after a sell off of Betts & Price. Mlb not ranking your WS chances very high either.

          mlb.com/news/drafting-2020-world-series-teams-from…

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        • Daryl

          5 years ago

          Pedroia back at mvp level hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
          Be lucky if that guy ever plays again

          Reply
    • Strike Four

      5 years ago

      Red Sox need to sign Collin McHugh now.

      Reply
      • Rsox

        5 years ago

        Done!

        Reply
  2. Allinws

    5 years ago

    Redsox trying to give Baltimores pitching staff a run for their money as worst of all time

    Reply
  3. Randy Red Sox

    5 years ago

    Red Sox pitching is a COMPLETE joke. Amongst the VERY WORST in MLB

    Reply
    • jkinser20

      5 years ago

      You’ve been watching too many rallies lol

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    • just here for the comments

      5 years ago

      This comment is a complete joke. You don’t know what bad pitching is, obviously.

      Reply
  4. Lovinmlb

    5 years ago

    Sox better worry about 2021 and 2022 as well. Terrible decision to extend Sale. Give Bloom a chance. He just fell into this mess. Dump some salary. Rebuild the farm. This year is done. Probably next. Not because of Betts but the lack of pitching.

    Reply
    • Mlb1971

      5 years ago

      Lovinmlb – must think that there is no longer free agency and no one will be available in 2021 or 2022

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    • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

      5 years ago

      They are resetting the tax THIS season. It’s a Lost season except for maybe shooting for second or third place.

      But you don’t need a couple Seasons to reset the tax. The Red Sox will be a player in free agency again next winter. It only takes one year of crap baseball to reset.

      Reply
  5. spooky

    5 years ago

    These next few years (last included) are for all you arrogant Masshole fans out there. Shhhh

    Reply
    • Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo

      5 years ago

      Thanks for that sensible concise post.

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      Reply
    • GothamNeedsMe

      5 years ago

      Nincompoop.

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      5 years ago

      Can you blame us? We have a lot to brag about unlike NY over the past decade +. Our arrogance will soon return; in Bloom we trust!

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      • JoeBrady

        5 years ago

        Yup, we’re not going to win every year. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I no longer have my hopes set on winning a WS every year. Now I have the luxury of viewing all trades and signings thru a 6-year lens.

        If 2020 is not our year, and we can make some trades to improve us for 2021-2027, I’ll be happy with it.

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      • Mlb1971

        5 years ago

        Red Sox fans are nowhere near as arrogant as Yankee fans. The reason I hate the Yankees is not because of the players…it is because of the fans!!!!!!!!

        Reply
    • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

      5 years ago

      Wow. Strong words.

      You must be a fan of one of those teams that is crappy “for the next few years” on a regular basis. Red Sox are using this season to recent tax. They’ve always spent money and will do so again next winter, and hopefully sign guys that will make a difference in the positions they need to compete again. Free agency is always a crapshoot but at least the Red Sox try, as do the Yanks.

      Reply
    • Occams_hairbrush

      5 years ago

      I guess we will just have to be content with all of our recent numerous championships. I don’t know how we will make it through.

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  6. Rsox

    5 years ago

    There is still a lot of spring training left and moves to he made. I think it’s a bit premature to call them the worst of all time.

    I’ve lived through seasons with the likes of Joe Hesketh, Greg Harris (pre-ambidextrous), Tom Bolton, John Dopson, Chris Nabholz, Tim Van Egmund, Vaughn Eshelman, Zane Smith, Rheal Cormier, John Wasdin, Pat Rapp, and Mark Portugal. This is certainly not the worst group the Sox have trotted out.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      5 years ago

      How could you leave out Oil Can Boyd?

      1
      Reply
      • Thomar

        5 years ago

        Rob Murphy

        Reply
      • Mishimacool

        5 years ago

        How about Jim Lonborg, Bill “Spaceman” Lee, Bruce Hurst, Luis Tiant, and Bill Monbouquette?

        Reply
        • Occams_hairbrush

          5 years ago

          Umm, Lee, Hurst and Tiant were all very good.

          1
          Reply
    • pasha2k

      5 years ago

      Omg I rennet those days n the suffering!

      Reply
    • Mlb1971

      5 years ago

      Wow, those names bring back a lot of memories…..a whole lot of so so pitchers. Glad Henry and company bought the RS and brought us 4 WS since 2004.

      Reply
    • Ketch

      5 years ago

      Yes it is.

      But that’s because Bloom inherited an awful mess of high salaries and empty farm teams. Dombrowski didn’t get fired for missing the postseason one time.

      Reply
      • dynasty in boston

        5 years ago

        So right. Problem is (was) it’s in Dombrowski’s DNA to gut the farm to overpay for over-the-hill players with name recognition.

        Reply
      • Mlb1971

        5 years ago

        Ketch – absolutely agree. DD over paid huge in prospects and was fired because he was not the right GM to bring the 5th WS to Boston this cent.

        Henry has spent money for the most part wisely to have 4 WS since 2004. There will always be missteps and injuries. Yankees 1 WS in the last 19 years, so people whole bad mouth Henry really have no argument ! Four World Series wins since 2004 is amazing since 21/30 MLB teams have never even won 4 WS. The Ref Sox have 9 WS which is third most all time in MLB. Thank you Henry! I thought I would die before RS won in my life time, but 4 is huge!!! RS fans like myself have no right to complain in my opinion, but then some people complain about everything in life.

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    • wrongway2011

      5 years ago

      John “Way Back” Wasdin. Wasdin with the pitch. It’s a long drive to centerfield. Way back. Way back. Waaaaaaay back!

      Reply
  7. mppg

    5 years ago

    Jays need to bring up Pearson to take advantage of the Yankees and Red Sox falling apart.

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    • GothamNeedsMe

      5 years ago

      Not a NY fan here, but I’d pump the brakes on the Yanks “falling apart” there hot stuff.

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      • dynasty in boston

        5 years ago

        I’m sure your screen name is not at all NY-referenced. Fuhgetaboutit

        Reply
    • Ketch

      5 years ago

      The Jays aren’t one questionable pitcher away

      Reply
  8. Thomar

    5 years ago

    Steve Avery available?

    Reply
    • Rsox

      5 years ago

      Pete Schourek

      Reply
      • Thomar

        5 years ago

        Frank Viola

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    • Ketch

      5 years ago

      The late Vaughn Eshelman?

      Reply
  9. pasha2k

    5 years ago

    There is no rotation! Just a bunch of 3 out pitchers, excluding E Rod n Eovoldi.

    Reply
    • rocky7

      5 years ago

      Wouldn’t count on Eovaldi too much…..way too fragile!

      Reply
  10. Berger

    5 years ago

    If Red Sox fans in this forum were in the medical profession all their patients would be terminal and dying, completely without hope.

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    Reply
    • Valkyrie

      5 years ago

      Like your wit?

      Reply
  11. Charlies_papa

    5 years ago

    It’s looking like the Sox have to re-visit the SD Myers trade. Give Tanner Gluck a shot and see what you have there. Looking like a long season.

    Reply
    • Charlies_papa

      5 years ago

      I mean Tanner Houck

      Reply
    • Ketch

      5 years ago

      San Diego bailed because they didn’t want to give up pitching depth, not because Boston wouldn’t include unranked minor league talent that already washed out of the starter role and whose inkling if ability has us Sox fans excited because it makes him stand out just a tad in what has been a rather bland farm system.

      Reply
  12. pinballwizard1969

    5 years ago

    My assessment of the AL East teams OD rotations:
    Yankees: Cole, Tanaka, Happ, Montgomery & either King or Schmidt.
    Red Sox: Rodriguez, Eovaldi, Perez and ???, ???
    Rays: Morton, Snell, Glasnow, Chirinos & Yarbrough
    Jays: Ryu, Anderson, Roark, Shoemaker & Borucki ??
    Orioles: No one cares
    My point the Rays are probably a close 2nd with their SP’ing but that’s it.
    The reality whether haters or non Yankees fans will admit it with the Yankees pitching staff both starters & bullpen and both Paxton and German back in a month or 2 and with their offense the Yankees should have no problem getting past this hiccup of injuries.
    As for the injuries to Judge and Stanton the Yankees have plenty of offensive options/weapons to weather the storm. Fans that think otherwise are just ill informed.

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    • its_happening

      5 years ago

      Borucki’s on the shelf. Most likely Thornton.

      Reply
  13. madmc44

    5 years ago

    All Sox fans know the “Rays Way.”
    Our 40 will be changed substantially by Opening Day.
    Sale and Sox Management will come to their senses and he will have TJS.

    Reply
  14. goldenmisfit

    5 years ago

    If they do not come to their senses it is going to ruin his career

    Reply
  15. jiffy011

    5 years ago

    I’m all for having faith in the Sox, but they’ll be lucky to win 80 this season.. and to be honest, it wouldn’t be the worst thing if they didn’t.. if their major goals are to get under the tax and replenish the farm, the sack this season and do it.. the Yanks weren’t afraid to do it, and look what they’re dealing with right now..

    They’ll try to hold off on Sale, but he’ll be on Dr. James Andrews’ table by May 1.. sell any of JBJ, Eovaldi, Moreland, Workman, and maybe even Vazquez at the deadline.. keep the core of Devers, Bogearts, JD, and E Rod.. let Dalbec and maybe even Downs get some ABs..

    Lastly, I’m conceding that it’s as likely as Pedroia coming back as that MVP type player, but if they commit to taking an off season, even bring up Rusney Castillo.. let him play in June and July, and get ANYTHING from any team not from Baltimore for him.. if Bloom can find a way to get a bag of stale peanuts for that bum, then maybe, just maybe the fan base will have some faith that he can do what they brought him here to do and get behind it.. if they find a way to win 80-85 games, it’s just another lost year anyway.. especially with the FAs on tap the next couple years.. I hate to say it, but they need to follow the Yanks on this one, get some kids, and make smart signings that make sense in 21-22..

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