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Ramon Laureano’s Suspension Reduced To Four Games

By Steve Adams | August 14, 2020 at 11:21am CDT

Athletics outfielder Ramon Laureano’s six-game suspension has been reduced to four games after he appealed the punishment earlier this week, ESPN’s Jeff Passan reports (via Twitter). He’ll begin serving that four-game ban tonight.

Major League Baseball initially brought forth a six-game punishment after Laureano charged the Astros’ dugout during Sunday’s game. He’d been plunked twice that game and three times in the series, and Laureano was rather clearly goaded by Astros hitting coach Alex Cintron, who has been suspended 20 games as a result of his role in inciting the benches-clearing fracas.

The extra two games of Laureano are no small perk for the A’s, who’ve gotten out to a 13-6 start and currently lead the AL West by four games. Laureano has gotten out to a .262/.398/.462 start at the plate while playing excellent defense. The A’s can turn to either Mark Canha or Chad Pinder if they prefer to stick with options already on the 28-man roster. If they plan to dip into their 60-man player pool, the A’s have Dustin Fowler, Luis Barrera and Skye Bolt as alternatives who are already on the 40-man roster.

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  1. Yankee Clipper

    8 months ago

    Wait… Astro’s are plunking other teams’ players?! Wow, things really have turned upside down….

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    • 92jays

      8 months ago

      Think of something that is wrong…. the Astros have probably done it

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      • Tom E. Snyder

        8 months ago

        As has every other team including the Angels.

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        • 92jays

          8 months ago

          Aston fan^

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  2. arc89

    8 months ago

    Difference between laureano and Cintron. laureano admits he was wrong for charging the coach and he shouldn’t have let the coach get under his skin. Cintron meanwhile tries to claim he is innocent and did nothing wrong. Never apologizes for starting the altercation.
    Baker should be ashamed that he hired a coach that acts like a 4 Y O child. Even astros fans know that what cintron did was uncalled for.

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    • CCCTL

      8 months ago

      Spanish speakers familiar with dominican/venezuelan slang identified some of the words in the video as Cintron calling Ramon’s mother a “****sucking witch who’d be a wh*re if anyone bothered to pay her”.

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    • rangerslegend34107

      8 months ago

      Baker didn’t get to hire any of the coaching staff. He inherited it because the Astros manager got fired due to the sign stealing saga…

      But yes, Cintron should be fired. Inciting a fight with an opposing player and then hiding behind your own players is reason enough and then add in the fact it highly violated Covid protocols.

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      • arc89

        8 months ago

        So Cintron was the hitting coach when all the sign stealing was being done. sounds like he should be banned from baseball.

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        • Tom E. Snyder

          8 months ago

          I believe he started in 2018.

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        • CCCTL

          8 months ago

          Nope, joined Astros in 2017 as interpreter, assistant coach and ‘advance scout’.

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        • Strosfn79

          8 months ago

          Cintron was part of the sign stealing and was not a player.

          Players can’t be fired

          But the team needs to get rid of all the loose ends (non players) from that era.

          Its a bad look and he just made it so much worse

          Rip off the bandaid.

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      • gwell55

        8 months ago

        Baker should of fired him immediately or at least publicly announced he should be fired but I guess once an astro always an aXXhole comes into play for dusty too!

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        • Tom E. Snyder

          8 months ago

          The GM does the hiring and firing.

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    • Yankee Clipper

      8 months ago

      Can’t blame the Astros’ coach… after all, he can’t bang on the garbage can anymore, so he had to find something cathartic to keep himself occupied…

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      • 4thinfsgt

        8 months ago

        Good one.

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    • stan lee the manly

      8 months ago

      I think it’s actually the difference between the Astros organization as a whole and the rest of the league. They have yet to show any sort of ethical standards and it’s clear that leadership does not care that they are enabling this kind of behavior. It begins and ends with Crane, org health is at a severe low.

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    • lowereastsider

      8 months ago

      Baker is old school so his reactions aren’t unexpected. You’re right about Cintron who is 41 spouting off to a 25 y.o. and admitting no fault. That kind of attitude still permeates through the Astros’ culture.

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  3. empirejim

    8 months ago

    And the Asstros players are beyond punishment. Dont know what they have on Manfred, but it’s got to be pretty damning to walk away from every encounter without so much as a slap on the wrist.

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    • sacball

      8 months ago

      Manfred and Crane are actually a couple and Crane’s blackmailing him…

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      • Redwood13

        8 months ago

        Get it through your head guys, it was Manfred who was afraid the union would through it all out. Mr Crane had nothing to do with it, Manfred wouldn’t have been able to do anything if he didn’t give the Astros immunity to find out the truth. If he would have given immunity to the Red Sox and the Yankees a lot would also come out but that won’t happen.

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    • bkbkbkbk

      8 months ago

      If you give a mouse a cookie…

      He’s gonna steal signs, throw at hitters with impunity and insult opposing players mothers.

      The Astros are worms and should be harassed whenever you see them out in the world. (Same with most politicians)

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  4. gugui

    8 months ago

    In my playing time we can argue and said anything to each other,but brings those tipe of words into it,fight will start.

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  5. CowboysoldierFTW

    8 months ago

    If Cintron was a real man he would own up.to his mistake and apologize to the young man and even his mother. Id knock piss out of any man whom I heard talking about ANY WOMAN in that manner.

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    • Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

      8 months ago

      I hear your mother is a lovely woman and a great role model!

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      • arc89

        8 months ago

        Actually the angels did that to a A’s player when he was hit in the series after the Astros. Angels players were mocking the Astros for the low immature children they are. A’s players were kidding with the angle players about the Astros. That is what they should do have fun instead of acting like a baby like Cintron did.

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        • CCCTL

          8 months ago

          “Hey, Mark Canha, I hear your mother is wonderful person and a good cook!”

          :)

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      • Vizionaire

        8 months ago

        it’s obvious your mother is not!

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  6. rainbirdmuse

    8 months ago

    Still puzzled that Cintron basically gets to continue work with the team, he just can’t be present in the dugout. How is that a “suspension.?”

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    • Yankee Clipper

      8 months ago

      @rainbird-It’s not. This team and it’s consequences are a microcosm of the nation and it’s cultural devolution

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      • 92jays

        8 months ago

        Yankee clipper. You should have shot altuve

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        • Yankee Clipper

          8 months ago

          Lol…….. ugh, I got Jeter instead

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    • DarkSide830

      8 months ago

      it might be possible that he cant be fired until he serves out his suspension. i think that’s how it works with players being unable to be moved while on the restricted list.

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      • gwell55

        8 months ago

        That is traded actually, they can be released though and that has happened in the past!

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    • athleticsnchill

      8 months ago

      Cintron got 20 games for inciting the benches clearing situation.

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      • CCCTL

        8 months ago

        He still travels with the team, coaches outside of game time, and is available in the clubhouse.

        But he’s blocked from being *in the dugout* for 20 games.

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  7. driftcat28

    8 months ago

    #FreeRamon

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    • driftcat28

      8 months ago

      Also, I forgot all about Dustin Fowler

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      • arc89

        8 months ago

        What about Seth Brown? I would think he could be the call up since he has already been up with the team this year. If they want a Right handed bat for outfield Bolt is the call up.

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  8. madmanTX

    8 months ago

    Should be zero game suspension.

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    • 2012orioles

      8 months ago

      As much as we all hate the Astros, you can’t charge the dugout and expect zero games

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      • Yankee Clipper

        8 months ago

        Also true ^^

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      • McGurk

        8 months ago

        In all fairness Correa charged the Dodger dugout and got nothing. Granted he trotted, but according to Kelly: Correa charges like he swings.

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        • gwell55

          8 months ago

          The astro’s don’t count manfreddie said so from his bedroom in texas!!!

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  9. ukpadre

    8 months ago

    I don’t really take a side either way on this particular incident and whether it deserved a suspension, but it’s so ridiculous that seemingly every suspension gets reduced on appeal. Why bother even giving a suspension in the first place? Makes the whole system look a joke. There should be a set outline for what suspension an offence carries, with a panel of disciplinary officers able to add to it if they deem it more severe (and this can’t be appealed, only the suspension itself can be – if for example they claim they’re not guilty of the act at all.)

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    • ukpadre

      8 months ago

      So for example, deliberately throw at a batter = 10 games; charge a catcher outside of the base running line = 3 games; get thrown out for verbals at an umpire = 1 game; throw a punch = 5 games, etc. (FYI: these are just random numbers for illustration, not serious thoughts on exact punishments).

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    • Wyoming Bison Expansion Team

      8 months ago

      Mlb knows they’ll appeal. I dont think I’ve ever seen a suspension for more than 3 games not be appealed.

      As such, I’m sure the MLB knows players will appeal multi game suspension and over suspend them knowing they’ll appeal down to the actual number theyd give them.

      Never seen a double appeal.

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    • Vizionaire

      8 months ago

      so, man city appeals the ban from european championship and they are about to go top 4. how the heck did that work out?

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    • ChapmansVacuum

      8 months ago

      Most suspensions are so far longer then for similar instances like when Grienke was charged and broke his collar bone by like Quinton I think and was suspended for less. It seems that while MLB said no pro rating the suspensions for the season, they have been suspending players for longer then normal for offenses and the appeals have been bringing them more in line with normal.

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  10. DarkSide830

    8 months ago

    guys shouldn’t get suspened for causing fights unless someone gets injured tbh. its entertaining, and if its because you were hit with pitches its fairly valid (even though id imagine Castellanos’s at least were mostly a lack of control)

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    • arc89

      8 months ago

      Entertaining? No it takes away from the sport. If you want entertainment and no sports watch WWE. bad acting and childish cartoon fighting. I always laugh wehn somebody call them athletes and its real.

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      • gozurman1

        8 months ago

        Actually Pro wrestling is real to the extent of what they do in the ring. It is scripted and the winner is pre-determined unless the one who is supposed to win gets hurt and can’t continue. They are athletes but as I said, they are not competing to win because the matches are scripted. It is apples and oranges to compare them to sports that are not scripted as you say. The participants are still athletes or else they could not do what they do.

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        • arc89

          8 months ago

          I would more say they are stunt people. You never hear a stunt person called a athlete. Steroid use is rampant in WWE so is drug use. Many of the old wrestlers are addicted to pain killers.

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        • Vizionaire

          8 months ago

          most pro wrestlers had been amateur wrestlers. they sure are athletes.

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        • ChapmansVacuum

          8 months ago

          Wrestling is choreographed where the moves are planned ahead of time reducing the chance of injury.

          They dont want to encourage fighting when the people fighting are being paid 20M+ at times. Losing a guy for 6 months from a fighting injury is a bad investment. Players make to much now for fighting to be allowed.

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      • Appalachian_Outlaw

        8 months ago

        The outcomes are pre-determined in wrestling, but the athletiscm is very real, arc. Brock Lesnar, Ronda Rousey and Shayna Baszler were all MMA fighters. Kurt Angle and Mark Henry were Olympic athletes. Rinku Singh played professional baseball. They perform real athletic feats, and sometimes suffer very real injuries. If you think it’s easy, go to a training school and just try running the ropes. I think you’d have a new appreciation for the difficulty.

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        • SashaBanksFan

          8 months ago

          Also don’t forget about Chad Gable and Dolph Ziggler as Amateur wrestlers. Baron Corbin played in the NFL. Bianca Belair was a great collegiate athlete. Just to name a few.

          Running the ropes provides an introduction to the very real world of pro wrestling.

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    • Ducky Buckin Fent

      8 months ago

      Weird take.

      If I wanna watch a fight I’ll watch boxing. Ya know, guys who are actually good at fighting.
      Uh?

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      • gozurman1

        8 months ago

        MMA is much more popular these days. Combines several disciplines and much like traditional boxers, they are actually good at fighting.

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        • Ducky Buckin Fent

          8 months ago

          D’accord, @gozurman

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        • ChapmansVacuum

          8 months ago

          Old school MMA was so much funner. Now its all people doing Muy Thai for striking and some form of Jiu Jitsu for grappling. It was way better in early pride and some of the others when it was a boxer vs a kung fu dude, and a wrestler vs a Karate champ. It was fun seeing different disciplines match up now its so much more homogenous training where they all fight the same.

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        • Ducky Buckin Fent

          8 months ago

          I agree with that too, @vacuum.

          You can still see some Tae Kwon Do, Capoeira, Karate, wrestling, boxing, judo, etc sprinkled in.

          But I preferred the earlier version of the sport. It was at least a starting point to the endless debate of which martial art is the “best”.

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    • lowereastsider

      8 months ago

      So are you condoning a full-on 65-man brawl every time feels slighted when they get beaned and hope miraculously that no one gets injured? Nevermind that there’s a pandemic and social-distancing be damned.

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    • Appalachian_Outlaw

      8 months ago

      I somewhat agree, Darkside. I think if a pitcher hits a batter, it’s fair to let the batter square up. Hockey settles their issues one-on-one and it works.

      I don’t see the 20+ man melees as a particularly good look for the sport, though.

      This year, with the need to social distance, all contact really should be avoided though.

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  11. wild bill tetley

    8 months ago

    Cintron goaded Laureano like Frank Drebin goaded Robert Goulet calling him Mr Poopy Pants.

    Cintron should’ve been given 1 game. Nothing more. If 20 was for last year then MLB should have suspended Cintron in the offseason, not 20 games for a possible momma joke.

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    • Ted

      8 months ago

      1 game? Almost any normal job would fire you on the spot for saying that about a co-worker, customer, vendor, etc. Why’s it OK in baseball?

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      • wild bill tetley

        8 months ago

        Are you seriously going to believe Cintron is the only one spewing this crap? Newsflash, Teddy, players say some horrific things to one another. I bet things were said during the fight that was worse than what Cintron said. A player called a pitcher a gay slur a couple years ago. He didn’t get 20 games.

        Wake up! This is a suspension driven by the revelations this past offseason. A complete overreach. Stop trying to bring normal jobs into this argument. Sports isn’t the same and clearly you are ignorant if you believe this is some isolated incident on the baseball field. This is rampant and has been for decades.

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        • gozurman1

          8 months ago

          A player called a pitcher a gay slur a couple years ago. He didn’t get 20 games.

          That was a couple of years ago. That happens now. at least 20 games.

          Also a big difference between 2 players jawing and a coach throwing the insults at a player. The coaches are supposed to be the adults in the room and that is why he got the 20 games.

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        • arc89

          8 months ago

          Over reach? 99% of people think Cintron was at fault. Saddest part was Cintron walked onto the field and challenged him and when laureano ran at him Cintron hid behind 4 players backing away. So wild bill would you start a fight and hide while your friends protect you? If you do you would be Cintron.
          So remind me when a opposing coach start calling another player nasty names and went onto the field to challenge a opposing player? i never seen it in watching baseball over 50 years. So give me some facts that back up your statement its rampant.

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        • wild bill tetley

          8 months ago

          Arc if you do not realize this is something that actually happens I’d say there is no fact that can slap your face that you’ll understand. 20 games is an absolute farce. I understand you are angry at Houston. Here’s something you can try and refute; had Laureano stayed on the base and did nothing, Cintron would have been suspended ZERO games.

          Zero equals none in case math is hard for you.

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        • wild bill tetley

          8 months ago

          Gozurman – see the answer to Arc. Goes for you too. 20 games is absurd. Put your hatred aside. It’s a bad look.

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    • gwell55

      8 months ago

      Your right cintron should of been giving one game… that is he had to stand in the batters box and every Oakland pitcher got 4 balls to lay him out… that does seem fair!

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      • Appalachian_Outlaw

        8 months ago

        Cintron would’ve quit. Lol. He showed exactly how much courage he had when he hid like a frightened mouse behind an offensive line of players.

        Not a bad idea at all, though.

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      • wild bill tetley

        8 months ago

        Pretty good idea gwell. Except Cintron can borrow a helmet with a faceshield and use the same arm guards hitters use today. So make it from 40 feet instead of 60.

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  12. Asfan0780

    8 months ago

    Wouldn’t mind seeing Luis Barrera up, although Fowler and bolt are getting older and should be on someone’s mlb roster by now, as a backup at least. Both are blocked unless grossman gets injured and they need a lefty bat

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