The Braves have won their arbitration case against shortstop Dansby Swanson, Jon Heyman of MLB Network reports. Swanson will earn $6MM, not the $6.7MM he requested, according to Heyman.
The 2021 campaign will be the penultimate season of arbitration control for Swanson, whom the Braves acquired from the Diamondbacks in a December 2015 blockbuster. Swanson was the first overall pick in the draft during the previous summer, but he never played for the D-backs. Since debuting with Atlanta in 2016, Swanson has put together a .249/.321/.396 line with 50 home runs and 31 stolen bases in 2,038 plate appearances. The 27-year-old has been a mixed bag at short, where he has totaled 18 Defensive Runs Saved and recorded a minus-4.4 Ultimate Zone Rating.
Last season was likely the best yet for Swanson, who batted .274/.345/.464 with 10 homers and five steals in 264 PA. He complemented his above-average offensive performance with 10 DRS and a 0.2 UZR.
Lord, pay the guy. Roughly a top 10 SS in baseball, pay him him like he is one smh….
teams dont just throw away money when they don’t have to.
I mean obviously if you don’t allow a free market system to dictate prices then a company is gonna take advantage of their employees lol. He’s been underpaid for his performance to this point and brings in a lot of revenue for the Braves. Just because a company doesn’t have to, doesn’t me it isnt the right thing to do.
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I mean obviously if you don’t allow a free market system to dictate prices then a company is gonna take advantage of their employees lol.
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It isn’t the company; it is the CBA.
FWIW, a whole of unions do the same thing. The 25 year old kid can probably lift twice as many garbage cans as the 60 year old can, but probably gets paid less.
Unions are run by older guys, and they take care of the older guys first.
I understand your point but I’d love to get $6M for my work and have people say I was underpaid!
It’s in the leagues best interest to put a salary structure in place otherwise just give the title to the big market clubs and everyone outside of those markets could care less about baseball. It’s about competitive balance and putting entertainment products on the field with the most mass appeal.
Going into the 2019 season I ranked Swanson 21st at SS. And I like Swanson. This year I got him at 23.
Does your job involve ranking MLB players? if not, that’s probably really sad.
Yes it does. Again I like Swanson, he works hard, he’s a good ballplayer. I want him to become better and stay there. But he has trouble with breaking stuff and a higher ranking at this point would be based on hope. Also there are just more SS who have done more and it would be a disservice to them to rank anyone higher based hope or a hunch.
You clearly don’t understand the arbitration process.
Good job, an all star at 23
He hit like 27 bombs last year ☠️☠️☠️ not to mention his defense
They lowballed their shortstop to save $700,000–PATHETIC and I’m not a Braves fan. Hope Swanson remembers when he reaches FA.. Braves owner/GM taking a page from the Red Sox book.
It’s up to the player and agent to prove that he is worth 700,000 more than the team offered. Arbitration ruled that he wasn’t worth that. That’s the way it works.
If he regresses to replacement level, is he going to give the money back?
Would you be expected to in your job?
@locopabs Dumb comparison. Baseball contracts are guaranteed.
Locopab does make a good point though, yea his contract is partly guaranteed, but in his situation he was grossly underpaid per his performance and brought in plenty of revenue for the team. Would you continue to work for a company if you weren’t paid your fair market value? Nope. Kinda ridiculous that baseball has this stupid arbitration process to control cost and not allow the free market to do its thing
Are you kidding? Pretty much all of us are underpaid.
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Would you continue to work for a company if you weren’t paid your fair market value? Nope.
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Sure, depending on the union shop. The union writes these contracts to reward themselves and their friends. A lot of people will join a union, knowing that they won’t get the best benefits until they have seniority.
This is why unions are bad lol… costing people jobs and money.
There is no way to define replacement level. Let the nerd stuff go.
He is not even close to a top 10 SS. Dansby couldn’t be any more bleh.
@locopads. You’re comparing apples to monster trucks. I doubt in his job there is a neutral arbitrator who decides between employer and employee who is giving the more fare pay raise suggestion.
Funny, mlb network had him top 10. Look I put roughly, full well acknowledging some will consider him easily top 10 some just outside of it. But to say he’s not even close is just baseball ignorance at its best
I don’t think he was top 10 but the Shredder is a joke anyway.
Name 10 better
I mean, it’s definitely debatable. But the fact that it’s debatable justifies a backend top 10 salary. I’d say it’s easy to name 9 better than him, but after that… it becomes extremely challenging
In no particular order- Seager Tatis Jr Lindor Turner Story Bogaerts Bregman Baez Anderson Bichette. Want more?
PeteWard just did and it doesn’t even stop there
Baez isn’t even close, bregman is a 3rd basemen you’re a clown bruh
It’s not only this year that the are going to be saving money by winning this year the next year will be beneficial to them too.
I don’t care if a multi billion dollar company that I spend a fortune of my own hard earn cash on tickets, merchandise, and cable solely to ensure I can watch Braves games saves a fraction of their revenue in the name of saving a couple bucks on their arbitrary budget they magically come up with every year. I’d rather see players get paid what they deserve.
I can see Swanson breaking out in a huge way this year offensively.
This is such a bad take. The players agreed to the monetary structure that’s in place.
He has to prove himself this year. This was the first year since his rookie year (in which he played less games than this year) that he had an OPS over 100 (League Average).
Career .249 Avg with a .717 OPS.
If he plays like 2020, he can make good $$$. If he plays like 2019….then he should only make Average money.
I love Dansby but there are a lot of good Short Stops. He needs to replicate his success if he wants top 10 SS money
He is a meh SS. Decent not like other top shortstops. 15/30 range
yeah in an era of great SSs I think he needs to do a little more to be considered a top tier SS.
He’s much better than meh. He’s just outside of all star range.
Ah yes borderline all star SS with a career OPS+ of 87.
Looking at numbers with no context, how very ignorant of you. Never mind the fact that he was rushed up a yr and a half to 2 yrs too soon. In 2019, he had really turned the corner until he injured his wrist and it messed his swing up. Then last yr he was back to 2019 pre injury numbers. He consistently makes hard contact but has some of the worst luck with babip. As for his defense, he’s really good. He’s also a smart player with a high baseball IQ. Try actually following the guys career instead of looking at BS numbers only.
I’m a Braves fan too and get where you’re coming from, but also recognize you have a slight touch of fandom in you. Swanson was rushed and his approach the first few years wasn’t who he truly is. He’s gotten back to who he is and has been a better player for it. His defense is good in the sense that he can make all the plays, throws, and won’t commit too many blunders. I wouldn’t peg him as annual GG-contender, though. That being said, he plays hard, has become a productive player when healthy, and provides GREAT length to any lineup in the 6-7 range. Wouldn’t shock me if he made a couple ASG’s in his career, or even got voted a GG. He’s not in that Seager, Lindor, Story, Correra, Baez range either. That’s okay, too. A fine ballplayer who fits great with these Braves.
I agree Brandon. I never claimed him to be great but he’s much better than anyone gives him credit for. He’s just now reaching his peak yrs.
I can’t believe someone just said career numbers are “BS” and calls other people ignorant. Dansby is 27 now. He doesn’t get any more learning curve time. Seager is the same age as him and broke out 5 years ago lol. Swanson has been mediocre and unable to put consistent production together. Gotta love Braves fans who can’t accept he is never going to be that #1 overall pick franchise player he was hyped up to be.
Plus, he hit for about two years off and on with wrist injuries. Go ask any other ball player how that impacts your output at the plate.
When he has been fully healthy he has been easily a top 10 SS, and always seems to come up solid in the clutch!!
After those is their really any that are much better than him ?
When Jeter came up & early in his career he wasn’t ARod, Nomar or Tejada either but when it’s all said & done Jeter is still HOF.
Now by no means am I saying Dansby will be Jeter but at the end of the day I am ok with him as the SS and don’t see any reason he needs to be replaced anytime soon
Local boy & needs to be signed to an extension
AMK, career numbers are BS without context. With limited PAs in yr one, he performed well because pitchers didn’t know his weakness. In yr 2, when he really should’ve been in AAA to work on his mechanics and approach, he was hung out to dry in the majors. Yr 3 was a result of yr 2 and injuries. Yr 4, big changes were made and he was on fire until injury. Yr 5 was yr 4 continued, just without injury. I never said anything about a learning curve at age 27 so… Also, Seager struggled for a couple of seasons because of injury. I also never said he was better than Seager so again, irrelevant. Seager was also billed as a once in a generation type of talent whereas Swanson wasn’t. I don’t think anyone expected him to be a franchise player because that’s not what he was ever meant to be. He was meant to be a good player for a team when they got back to being a competitive team and that’s exactly what he has been. As for mediocre, he was the top ranked SS in 2020. It must hurt to be wrong all the time.
The amount of delusion coming from you is insane. The best Dansby has done was hot starts where he goes ice cold for the rest of the season. Injuries or not that’s the production he put up and doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt. Seager never struggles for a couple seasons. He was a league average hitter playing on a busted hip and torn UCL. He put up a 113 OPS+ in his rehab season. Notice how injuries are not an excuse with Seager. The amount of excuses for Dansby you are making is comical. He flat out isn’t that good. Very few sources rank him as a borderline top 10 SS and most have him outside that range so no I’m not wrong LOL. You just live in a fantasy land where you think numbers don’t matter.
Julio Tehran 2.0 in regard to over rating players.
Oh, please. Julio Teherán was a good pitcher. Was he the ace some Braves fans claimed? Absolutely not. Was a lucky scrub others have said? No. The man made 30 or more starts for seven straight years (literally his entire time as a mainstay in the rotation for Atlanta). His only true clunker of a season was 2017. Yes, you can send me all the stats about how he outperformed his peripherals and was the benefit of luck, but when you’re “lucky” for seven years, you’re probably know what you’re doing.
If he was in your top three, you’re probably not a good team. If he’s making starts and eating innings as your #5 through 162, he’s good for that.
People nowadays either think you’re a star or a scrub. He was neither, but was a good pitcher for the Braves for numerous years, made a few ASG, and contributed to a couple division titles. Real overrated.
@DTDATL. I agree, not only that but he has been clutch. He has also been one of the top in all baseball from 7th inning on. Dansby definitely turned the corner the last 2 years. That wrist injury IMO not only ended a great 2019 but slowed him LY too. Look for him to have his best year yet in 2021.
He’s average defensively and below average offensively for his career. Meh sounds about right
See previous reply.
Swanson replaced Simmons, in part, because ATL didn’t believe Simmons’ bat would ever come around. Here’s a look at both players’ oWAR since Swanson took on full-time SS for ATL in 2016:
Swanson’s oWAR (since 2016): 0.9 (38 games) / 0.3 / 1.3 / 1.5 / 1.9 (60 games) = 5.9 total oWAR
Simmons’ oWAR (since 2016): 2.3 / 3.7 / 3.8 / 0.7 (103 games) / 0.7 (30 games) = 11.2 total oWAR
So, since Swanson entered the league, Simmons has been almost twice as good as Swanson offensively (per oWAR). Annnnd defensively…Simmons has been 3x better than Swanson per dWAR (12.9 vs. 4.3 since 2016), respectively.
If you’re gonna compare players, you actual numbers, not unprovable nerd stats. Plus, you have to look big picture. Simmons was already a proven player when the switch happened. Swanson was rushed up way too early. Simmons has no pop at all. Swanson does and makes hard contact. Swanson really picked it up on offense in 2019 before he hurt his wrist. For 2020, he continued to do what he was doing 2019 pre-injury. As for defense, almost no one can hold a candle to Simmons so falling short of his ability isn’t exactly a big deal. Swanson is a really good defender and any team would gladly take really good defense at SS.
He also has more 800+ OPS seasons (2) than Simmons (0) in half the seasons played. Swanson also has a higher career OPS. Simmons only provides value on defense. Swanson provides value on both.
In 2016 in 38 games:.302/.361/.442/.807/115
Anyone who saw those numbers would say he doesn’t need AAA time. He wasn’t brought up too early.
Using 2020 as a gauge is stupid, because it was a minuscule season. Everyone knows that.
Swanson is definitely getting better defensively, but time will tell if he every turns out to be a better than average MLB hitter.
@DTDATL: “unprovable nerd stats”…? And you don’t use ANY stats. Point is, ATL traded away an affordable contract of a great player at an important position for what — a lottery ticket prospect (Sean Newcomb) that hasn’t worked out, Erick Aybar, Chris Ellis. I’m going by the dry stats. I’m a Braves fan and know about the injuries and lack of consistency for Swanson that he seemed to turn a corner in 2020 mini-season, but could we have possibly had a better SS in Simmons during that same time? (No way of knowing besides speculating since Simmons put those numbers up in another uniform). The thing is, Swanson is about to be a free agent at the end of next season, and they’ll need decide pretty soon whether or not to commit to him…with a lot of much better SS about to be available on the free agent market.
OPS? You’re cherry picking. I don’t care so much about power (SLG, OPS) from my SS who needs to have #1: glove, #2: offensive value (regardless in what form it comes: power, OBP/runs, etc.).
All that WAR crap is useless as you cannot prove what a replacement level player is because there are far too many variables to account for. You’re missing the 2019 season prior to injury where he adjusted his mechanics and his numbers took off. The 2020 season was a continuation of those adjusted mechanics so it means more than you’re giving credit for. Also, Simmons wasn’t a great player, just a great glove. Swanson offers both offense and defense. OPS isn’t cherry picking, it’s basically the gold standard for a players offense. That standard shows Swanson has been better than Simmons.
Phantom, he didn’t play in many games and pitchers didn’t adjust to him because there wasn’t much to go on. They adjusted and he wasn’t able because he was rushed up for no reason. 2020 isn’t the guage, 2019 is. He was much improved prior to his wrist injury and even with it, put up improved numbers from previous seasons because his approach and mechanic were adjusted. His hard hit rate in 19 and 20 were very impressive and his numbers dot show that because of bad luck in the babip dept. He hit a ton of line drives right at people and was also robbed a ridiculous amount. Once that normalizes, you’ll understand how wrong you are. So if he’s good defensively and average on offense, that already makes him better overall than Simmons.
…he literally replaced Simmons — and during that time (in which ATL has won 3 division titles and been competitive, hence, needing their best lineups) he wasn’t as good as the person before him. Sure, you can give every excuse under the sun, which I’m sure you’ll attempt, but by according to WAR, he hasn’t been anywhere close to the person he replaced — sore wrist, kinks and all. Hopefully this and next year will be different, if for no other means than driving Swanson’s free agent ask higher.
Simmons – “a not great player” has been better offensively than Swanson in every year except for 2020 (in which Swanson played 2x games). My oWAR numbers didn’t take Simmons’ glove into account – because that wouldn’t be fair….lol – thus why it’s offensive WAR.
Ok I understand what you are saying but look at going forward it’s not Dansby’s fault the return on Simmons has not amounted to much.
Look at what Dansby is doing compared to what Simmons did in their same age seasons
That is the comparison.
Hind sight is always 20/20 but to say giving up Simba was stupid because Dansby hasn’t been better than him is not a good argument because Simba was traded for Newcomb that’s where the comparison needs to be
And I am not writing off Nuke yet either he can easily become an Andrew Miller type RP & now it’s Nuke & Dansby compared to Simmons & his 1 year contract
I don’t care about WAR numbers that can’t be proven. It sucks that make believe is the only way you know how to evaluate a player.
DTDATL and RunDMC
You guys are arguing apples and oranges. DTDATL is arguing 2019 and 2020 because those are Swanson’s best years. They also happen to be the most recent years, so that gives them more weight. RunDMC is arguing 2016-2020 because 2017-2018 were Simmons’ best years offensively. He tailed off in more recent years. The second point DTDATL is making is that Swanson played injured part of 2019. If you take that into account then Swanson played even better than it looked. Last, and DTD didn’t raise this, if you look at the last two years, Swanson has 4.4 WAR and Simmons has 2.4 WAR. So RunDMC’s WAR argument falls apart if you focus on the last two years, the most two recent years. In terms of OPS+, Swanson was 89 and 110, Simmons 78 and 95. (And, again, Swanson’s 89 includes playing injured.) The fact is, Swanson is now superior offensively to Simmons. Simmons is a superstar fielder, but Swanson is more than serviceable. And WAR, RunDMC’s go to stat, shows that Swanson has become the better player when you average defense and offense together. At least that’s my take on the what the stats say.
Good post MO, very well reasoned.
This is hilarious. I picked offensive numbers because that was the reported reason ATL moved on from Simba – the most valuable defensive player in the game. What’s hilarious is that it’s debatable Swanson is better offensively than Simmons. However, offense is the best part of Swanson’s game, while it’s the worst part of Simmons’. Thing is, we’ve been discounting the best part of Simmons’ game: his defense…
Simmons had a 7.8 total WAR season (2017). Swanson’s career total WAR (since 2016) is 7.5! lol. According to WAR, in 1 season Simmons was more valuable than Swanson’s entire career! He followed that up in 2018 with a 6.3 WAR. If you want to look at OPS+, Simmons’ OPS+ average for 9 seasons is 91, compared to Swanson’s OPS+ in only 5 years is 87 – so Simmons is better offensively in OPS+, as well. This is fun.
As a Braves fan, I would’ve rather had Simmons than Swanson the past two years in a nutshell. Taking in contract and control over a player, I’m happy with Dansby. He’s a good ballplayer and on a team with Acuna, Freeman, Albies, and Ozuna slots in as a good bottom-half bat. He’s made strides in the past two seasons with the bat and is sound defensively.
He’s not elite, but could definitely seeing him make an All-Star Game or two by the time he’s done. The Braves traded Simmons without Dansby in the system (same offseason, I think Simmons deal happened a month or so beforehand). Coppy made some great moves, but Newcomb is a pretty big miss. They got lucky to get Swanson imo.
In all, I think the Braves are and should be happy that Swanson will be their shortstop for the next two years. He’s not a top of order guy, but he doesn’t have to be on this team. I wouldn’t mind seeing him extended; something in the 5/$40 range would be fine for me. If he walks in two years, it wouldn’t be the worse thing either. He’s not in the Seager, Lindor, Correa, Baez, Boegarts, Turner, etc. range. In fact, I secretly hoped the Braves might’ve packaged Dansby and some other prospects into a year of Lindor this offseason. (Idea being if you don’t plan to extend Dansby, push your chips in a bit)
Dansby is a good, not great shortstop who fits on this team. I’m okay if he’s not elite or whatever. Doesn’t need to be.
What’s hilarious, RunDMC, is that you keep citing older stats to make your argument. I was debating someone a couple of weeks ago about TB’s level of success. I pointed out that they had finished 3rd or lower six different times in the last decade. So he pointed out how well they’d done if you looked at the last 20 years! You’re doing the same thing. The numbers don’t support your argument so well over the past two years, so you dig back farther. Whether it’s OPS+ or WAR, Swanson has done better than Simba the last two years. Hands down. And his defense is a bit above average. By WAR, YOUR stat of choice, Swanson is better now, over the past two years. And that’s the timeframe DTDATL was ALWAYS and ONLY talking about. Your argument is a off-topic at best.
RunDMC5 hours ago
Swanson replaced Simmons, in part, because ATL didn’t believe Simmons’ bat would ever come around.
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Technically, Simmons was moved before Swanson was acquired. Unless the Braves knew Swanson was joining them, I’m not sure you could say he replaced him.
Yes, Swanson is better now, if based on last 2 years in which Simba has missed almost a quarter of games played. But yes.
Swanson was an okay pick. Clearly outshined by Alex Bregman taken right after him.
For all the trash can jokes, Astros have good scouting .
Definitely was worth trading Shelby Miller for who has since done nothing but post inflated ERA’s and been hurt.
I remember Tony LaRussa talking like he just traded for an ace and only giving up Swanson and Inciarte to do so.
Whole trade was weird. I remember the baseball world was absolutely losing their minds that the Diamondbacks gave up that much for a young pitcher who had top prospect pedigree and was an All-Star the previous year.
Shelby never stayed healthy (he was real, imo, and likely pitched hurt early in Arizona) and has since bounced around. It didn’t take long to realize Blair was a dud. Inciarte was pretty good on some bad teams before being pretty bad on some good teams. Swanson has turned into a starting caliber shortstop; albeit not the no. 1 overall pick superstar some thought (especially being picked right before Alex Bregman).
Braves definitely won it and I’m sure the WAR nerds are going to look back at it with success once Swanson and Inciarte’s tenures are up. Just not the earth-shattering trade it got billed as. Still weird to trade your top overall pick as soon as you could, though.
I hate this arbitration crap in general, especially over what amounts to nothing in terms of sports contracts. Just meet in the middle and go about your day.
Yeah, how dare player and team settle their differences via objective arbitration like they agreed to do. They should just ‘meet in the middle’, which totally wouldn’t devolve into players asking for $100 million/year and the owners offering $0. Makes complete sense.
Horrible straw man, try again
Horrible strawman for an even worse argument…seems fair to me.
I’m personally happy to have Dansby at SS. There’s plenty worse options. Dansby has been the primary SS for 3 NL East championships in a row.
He was not the shortstop for the 2019 WS championships tho.
My goodness, get over yourself. Y’all fell off a cliff in 2020. Grow up
He says from the cellar.
Dansby is not a great defender or hitter, below league average in both. Poor all-around baseball player.
That’s what I’d say too if I didn’t know what I was talking about.
Didn’t he have the highest WAR for SS in the league last year?
https://youtu.be/TNAL9lAXJYo
If you follow the Braves, you know what he has meant in ways that can’t be measured. Haters gonna hate.
What does even mean? I appreciate his marketability (hometown kid with good looks and great attitude), but sometimes that’s smoke-and-mirrors. He took over the position from one of the best defensive players ever (Simba) and next offseason will be the free agent offseason for SS ever (Lindor, Correa, Story, Seager, Baez). It’ll be interesting to see how much ATL values Swanson’s “ways that can’t be measured”.
I can find a highlight reel on Nich Castellanos making great looking plays with the bat as well as the glove. That doesn’t mean much.
Everytime someone wants a particular player valuated higher than their stats, they point to intangibles. I’m fully aware that intangibles exist but it’s become this knee jerk reaction to someone’s favorite, overrated player.
Great example of when arbitration goes wrong. No way he gets that on the open market. Even losing his case he’s still over paid.
Actually, he’s very underpaid based on the WAR market value that everyone seems to use these days. Yey again, another poster who has know idea what they’re talking about. That’s the real pandemic.
So people should throw out all the statistical data for your opinion driven scouting report? The fact is he is an average ss defender and a below average hitter. He is certainly young enough to improve but he’s likely destined for a position switch sooner rather than later with a less than desirable bat. He could easily be a bench bat/platoon player in 2 year.
WAR cannot be proven so it means nothing. There are too many variables that can’t be taken into account. But if we’re going by that, which all of you seem to want to do, it’s roughly 7 mil for 1 WAR. His war was 2.4 last yr I believe so he should get about 17.2 mil or so. You guys just proved yourself wrong with your own stat so…
He’s paid as a starter not an all star. If his war was 5+ that means more money.
You’re evaluating SS on OPS — that’s the real shame. One of the only positions where offense is extra credit. Though Simba has been 3x better than the guy replacing him, but keep evaluating SS on their power. Are you going to next evaluate catchers on their ability to lay down a sac bunt? Can’t wait!
With those methods Omar Vizquel was no good LOL
Where did I say OPS was all I evaluated on? As far as offense goes, it provides the best overall insight to a player’s numbers. It’s not the only thing I look at which is another reason why I hate WAR. It doesn’t factor in the little things players do on the field. Swanson has a lot of long at-bats, which increases pitch count of the opposition. He’s a really good base runner. His hustle and leadership are huge for that team. He has a high baseball IQ. That’s how I value a player. Stats don’t tell the entire story. He’s a good baseball player that hasn’t yet reached his potential.
You got a man crush on Simba
Get over it he is gone & to tell you the truth other than the glove he really isn’t that good
I mean the Braves passed him along with Dansby replacing him & the Angels let him go for Iglesias
So his greatness is on his 3rd team & it’s a 1 yr contract at that
I have no idea what I’m talking about yet you quote WAR for deciding a player’s salary on the open market? Maybe you should learn the difference between value and salary. Come back when you’re done, also come back when you can prove GM’s look at a player’s WAR having any factor in deciding their salary. Jose Iglesias just put 1.9 WAR and is getting 3.5 Million. There is no direct correlation to a player’s salary and the WAR they put up the previous season. Clowns like you always clowning around this place now.
ILB, I’m just using the info that’s out there. I never claimed to know what a GM uses to determine value. And when we’re talking about the amount of money someone makes, that’s salary, which is what we’re talking about here. As for Iglesias, everyone knows his last season was a fluke with the bat and he’s not a major player on a winning team. His salary is reasonable for what he can do.
My favorite comment of the day: “…another poster who has know [sic] idea what they’re talking about.” I don’t know which is richer, the awesome grammar good in the middle of a sentence calling someone else stupid or the ironic use of the word “know” when you were claiming that the poster didn’t have any actual knowledge. You seem grumpy today, DTD. Hope it’s nothing we posters did.
I never called anyone stupid. You are stupid though if you think ignorant and stupid mean the same thing. Also, you ever typed something and then went back to change it and forgot to change some words? Yeah, it happens. Thanks for your useless post that didn’t have any purpose.
I was mainly trying to get you to take a deep breath. If you want to split hairs between “doesn’t know anything” and stupid, have at it. I’m here a good bit and your posts are usually more constructive than this. Take my comments for what they’re worth or barrel on down your current highway—your call. I’ll leave you be.
Unprovable nerd stats??? Hilarious! This comment section never disappoints. If you want to read the most uneducated homer fan posts, this is the place to be.
Nah. He’s paid properly. He’d probably that on the open market. Just not more than that.
Swanson was paid $6.5 MILLION before he even had one MINOR league AB. Yeah, the system is unfair.
He’s not even worth 6. Alex Bregman turned out to be soooo much better than Swanson, even though he was picked after him in the draft. Swanson won’t be remembered in 10 years. Bregman on the other hand will be in the Hall when he’s eligible!
The Braves split their two decisions this year. They lost to Mike Soroka and won over Dansby Swanson. Both hearings involved a difference of $700,000. So, they broke even on their overall team salary structure. The Braves are now 18 wins and 11 losses against their players all-time, a pretty active hearings team compared to all others. The arbitration panel for Swanson was Richard Bloch, Walt De Treaux, and Robert Herman. According to my research, Richard Bloch’s career panels decision are 12 team wins and 3 player wins. As an individual arbitrator he was 12-5 in favor of teams dating back to 1982. So, overall, he stands at 24 team wins and 8 player wins. De Treaux’s panel decisions are 4-3 in favor of teams. Robert Herman is 1-1 as an arbitrator panel member.
Dansby Swanson’s statcast page: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/dansby-swanson-621020?stats=statcast-r-fielding-mlb
TL;DR: Decent offense, varying defensive prowess. IMO not all-star callibar, but is certainly capable of holding the reigns at SS as the everyday starter.
Jeff Blauser 2.0
Poor franchise.
The Padres would never argue over $700k!
Lol
I will say AJ Preller never gets to arbitration.
They always come to an agreement.
Don’t think we’ve had a hearing in at least 4 years.