Los Angeles Lakers superstar LeBron James is now a part-owner of the Red Sox, Michael Silverman of the Boston Globe reports. James agreed to purchase “an undisclosed amount of” shares in the John Henry-led Fenway Sports Group, according to Silverman, who adds that Major League Baseball first has to approve the accord. The deal also includes pieces of the New England Sports Network, the Liverpool Football Club, Fenway Sports Management and Roush Fenway Racing.
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The 36-year-old James, one of the NBA’s all-time greatest players, will reportedly surpass the $1 billion mark in career earnings in 2021, putting him in position to make this type of investment. Of course, it’s interesting that James will join a Boston franchise when you consider his history. James had his share of battles with the Boston Celtics when he was a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers and Miami Heat in the NBA’s Eastern Conference, while the Celtics and Lakers have been longtime rivals. Plus, James has been a fan of the Yankees, the Red Sox’s archnemesis.
Should MLB sign off on this deal, James will be the second MVP-level athlete from another sport to join an MLB ownership in the past year. Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes became part-owner of the Royals last July.
Hope this means no more Yankee hats at MLB playoff games. And free Blaze Pizza for everyone who buys a ticket at Fenway.
Don’t mind me, I’m just here for the comments.
*opens popcorn*
I do mind you when you make comments like that.
A yankee fan buying the Red Sox?
I thought it would end this way.
it’s not like hal is going to give up ownership sales on nyy . i’m pretty sure hal has a mint in the basement of yankeess stadium and a blank check from the us treasury.
He is a Yankees fan so wearing a hat of his team makes sense. He jumped on the bandwagon of the Indians game 7 of the world series. That was all for Joe Buck to gush over him. Further showing his homerism for the Indians.
I mean, it’ll be even funnier if he shows up at Red Sox games as a partial Red Sox owner wearing a Yankees cap.
When it comes to money it doesn’t matter who your personal favourite team is. And Yankees ownership isn’t up for grabs any time soon.
Be it dollars or yen you are correct.
Well played sir!
Deutchmarks or dollars, American Express will do nicely, thank you
Loosen up your collar.
Even more reason to pull against the Red Sox!
Salty much……
The two NBA GOATs now have big shares in two major American sports: LeBron in MLB and Michael in NASCAR.
Doesn’t Magic have ownership in the Dodgers?
He did. Think he still does. Magic is a very successful businessman post NBA. He invested in Starbucks early, owned a couple thousand franchises at one point.
Yes
One goat.. and a guy who creates super teams and cries to the refs while flopping.
Exactly. Michael didn’t leave Chicago to go join Bird, Magic, Miller, Ewing or Stockton and Malone.
He stayed right where he was and beat everyone’s butt.
He didn’t have to because Pippen and Rodman spent basically their whole careers there.
If the Cavs had that LeBron would have never left.
you didn’t watch much Bulls back then I take it
According to Sam Smith’s book “The Jordan Rules” (via an excerpt published in the Oklahoman), that details Jordan pushing for the Bulls to make a trade in 1990 over frustrations with Bill Cartwright.
Jordan liked to belittle Cartwright in the locker room. He’d imitate Cartwright’s unorthodox shooting style with wild exaggerated moves that left many of his teammates trying to stifle laughter when Cartwright was nearby. Cartwright would just look away and blame immaturity.
But Jordan went one step too far that first season. He was angry over the Bulls’ slow start and had already gone to Jerry Krause during the Western trip in November to ask that he make some trades.
“I need help,” he told Krause. Krause explained the Bulls had salary cap problems, which Jordan neither understood nor cared to hear about. So he made some decisions. One was that he would have to do just that much more himself. And to do that, he couldn’t have Cartwright fouling things up, especially late in the game
What nonsense. How many playoff games have the Cavs won without LBJ? How many HOFers did he play with there? How many for MJ? The fact that he has avoided any kind of scandal is pretty impressive alone. MJ’s cheating and gambling ways would have been real issues if he played today. Look at Tiger Woods.
the two GOATS? Wait… Bill Russell owns part of a sports franchise?
why does Bill Russell matter in this argument?
Because he’s the GOAT
More of a LAMB.
Dare you to say that to his face
Even at his age I bet he’d still put a whoopin on ya
By definition there cannot be 2 GOATs
Wasn’t the original statement said in terms of plural & not singular?
That said you are correct sir!
But if the statement is qualified numerically (i.e. “the two GOATs) wouldn’t that then be acceptable?
Man.
There’s never a grammar cop around when you need one.
The Globe says the the cash influx from LeBron and an outside investment group RedBird Capital Partners will allow Roush Fenway to jumpstart its purchase of other sports teams including soccer in continental Europe and NFL and NBA here.
Nice to see unity in this forum for a change. We can all agree lebron will never be the goat and his views are uninformed and uneducated.
I second that notion.
Unity is a fairly odd word to use when describing this thread …..I’d say “shared hatred” is more spot on. Just some God awful takes littered everywhere in the thread…… but at least there consistent?
Probably help China also. Lebron loves Chinese middle schoolers making his jerseys and shoes.
Not saying anything about the article’s veracity, but it’s worth reminding that the same guy who owns the Globe owns the FSG.
Read the New York Times? Put your filters on. Watch Fox News? Do the same. They both exist to make a profit; they are the same, by definition.
Again, Henry/Werner might used the infused capital to purchase other sports things, but they might use it to cover shortfalls, or buy bitcoins. And I doubt they’d tell you which they did. And FWIW they really don’t have to.
A Laker player part owning a Boston team lol. He should throw out the first pitch one day. LeGM will make Boston into WS contenders by next year lol.
What money dose to most people
Always knew he was a fake Yankees fan. Now I can hate him even more.
CDice It’s just business, of course he’s not going to let who his favorite team is stop him from doing this if he thinks it’s a good decision. It’s not like he’s going to get a chance to become a part owner of the Yankees instead anytime soon.
So I take it you hate Jeter for owning the Marlins? Or A-Rod for bidding on the Mets ownership? Or is it just ok for any Yankees former or present, to have any stake in another organization and/or different league.
These Yankee fans are delicate flowers. They also pick and choose.
Lebron is a Yankee fan.
He’s not a fake Yankees fan. If anything he’s a fake Indians fan.
I don’t know why and it makes no sense to even me but I just don’t like when active professional athletes get involved in an ownership role to a professional team. I realize he’s not gonna be a guy calling shots and it’s just an investment, I would do the same if I was him! I just don’t like it!
Already know there will be a lot of hate against LeBron. Hate his political side all you want, there’s no doubt he’s brought a lot of change to Ohio through his programs.
I always root against Lebron, but off the court and sports he does good things
He’s been instrumental in that school and I’ll always give him props for that.
He also only pays for 10% of that school and makes the vast majority of his money off of shoes made by child labor. Nike has also been caught using slave labor.
So I’m real about how woke Lebron is…..right until it hits his pocketbook.
There are no ethical athletic sneakers to wear or invest in, especially not while maintaining the life of an athlete. This is a dumb take. Lol it’s not like he chose Nike while Adidas was making ethical sneakers. There’s virtually no ethical manufacturing around the globe now. So take your dumb little comment and sit on it.
No, but he KNOWS Nike is unethical now, yet he spends the checks. your point is short sighted.
Lebron has the power to say “not on my shoes” but he doesn’t.
In an arena that has a lot of shady players, Nike is constantly pointed out as the worst abuser. And he knows it.
Lebron always talks about how his platform is a chance and responsibility to make change. Yet he’s silent on his own sweatshops and sided against the voices of Hong Kong being heard.
You posting from your iPhone. He’s not the only one making a mint on sneakers. Pick and choose where to assign your outrage.
@jj great take! People don’t realize lebron didn’t pay for the school to be built as it was paid by cleveland tax payers he simply put his name on it….guys a turd. Glorified for helping his community except he does it with others dollars.
His foundation gives $ for extra teachers to keep class sizes down, provide resources and training for parents to make a better life for their kids and other programs. It is a public school. Really pitiful arguments.
So…what I’m hearing, @hhjj is:
“A poster named Ducky Buckin Fent over at MLBTR is the woke equal (wokequal) to LeBron James.”
Jeeez. I really had no idea…
his comments have also helped in the division in our country.
@dpsmith22 facts!!!!
If you don’t know what he said and his ridiculous comments coming from a man who owns 4 mansions. Look it up, dude. He gets a free pass because he says the “right” things while Curt Schilling is ostracized.
LeJames is the biggest phony in sports and I am soooo tired of hearing about him day in and day out. “LeBron James Is upset over the size of the toilets in the Lakers locker room.”
Seriously, I think Schill should e in the HOF, but he went way too far.
Lol before him everything was great. Listen to yourselves. It’s all on LBJ.
smart move for james, love em or hate them the rs are an iconic/money making franchise with this deal if it goes though he is going to be making money hand over fist long after his playing days.
It’s probably more about Liverpool and other and the rest of the portfolio than the Red Sox specifically.
either way still a smart play it’s not like soccer is going to fall off the cliff in europe, or car nuts are going to just stop watching nascar
I agree.
He doesn’t need the money you fool. He’s got so much he could buy the whole team himself
Lebron already owned 2% of the Liverpool team which is also owned by FSG. This gives him greater ownership in the Liverpool team plus the Red Sox, Roush-Fenway Racing, and an opportunity to expand his ownership into other sports including the NBA and NFL as well as Bundesliga football.
MJ>>>>>>>>>>>
We already know this and so do lebron. It’s more about trying to build a brand for himself by constantly driving the narrative that he is a “king” and is in same category as mj. Sadly not the case 6-0 with real defense is greater than 4-6 playing in the leastern conference up until last season.
He’s going to teach all the Red Sox hitters how to flop. Red Sox obp goes through the roof as they lead the league in hit by pitches.
Except that is reviewable in the MLB.
2/10 bad joke
Teams better than lakers
Nets
Clippers
Jazz
Sixers
Who gives a crap?
Wizards. Clippers who are one of my favs are even IMO.
Wizards? Is that a joke?
None until they beat them in the playoffs. Lakers are wearing the rings.
“Of course, it’s interesting that James will join a Boston franchise when you consider his history.”
His intention is probably to beat Boston professional sports from within, but one look at the roster, he realized that they were one step ahead of him.
interesting that the NBA would allow this. It is certainly a conflict of interest.
Aaron Rodgers is part owner of the Bucks. How can that possibly be a conflict of interest?
The level of idiocy here is astounding. Wow
the amount of people who even care about this let alone are angry lol
Well when you are 40 with no family, the only thing you have is irrational hate towards more successful men.
I definitely see a lot of what you are alluding to in re to “hating” specific players.
For example, I think that’s one of the things that triggers – if you will – all the hatred towards Giancarlo Stanton, for example.
He’s; much wealthier & talented, has a faster whip, a bigger house, a hotter girlfriend than…well most of us.
So I see the phenomenon you’re talking about all the time as a Yankee fan. Same thing with Arod.
I think – however – this is different. LeBron’s turned a lot of people off to the NBA. For me, it was the way he is able to manipulate the league. & – as a Knicks fan – his presence in the NBA wasn’t really working out for me. Had he chosen The City over LA…well, who knows.
I’m just wary of him being good for baseball & I think that’s a fair take.
I hope he doesn’t get super involved with baseball. In terms of moves and acquisitions, maybe stuff for the popularity. I don’t know why people stop watching basketball because of him. I watch and I always root against him. He’s on 1 team not 30 and you can avoid him easily. He has done good things outside of the game, but people discredit him for talking about his beliefs.
I’ll freely admit it’s probably shallow on my part.
Look. During those few seasons when everybody knew the finals would be the Warriors Vs whatever team LeBron was on also coincided with some atrocious Knicks basketball.
The NBA just became Not Fun for me at that time.
Like I posted, had he spent a few years hooping in the Garden I’d probably be a yuge fan. As it turned out, I got nothing out of the LeBron James era of the NBA. Honestly, I should really thank him for breaking me of being a Knicks fan. But I’m striving towards curmudgeonliness.
I mean those were boring after the 2 first matches, but you can’t blame Lebron fully for that because the Warriors were a super team.
“I’ll freely admit it’s probably shallow on my part.”
Oh yes I can.
well, i think there’s valid reasons not to like Lebron given his personality, (though hate is a little extreme) i just think its a silly thing to care about in this situation.
At the most, LeBron bought a 5% share in FSG, probably much less than that. He’s not going to have any input into how the Sox are run, who Liverpool signs or who drives their NASCAR cars. While it is a good investment, it’s also just a status symbol for him. Maybe they ask him about how to better market star players, but that’s the most he’ll be involved. I don’t even expect him to sit with the owners at Fenway all too often. He’ll only do so on nationally televised games anyways, as he’s always promoting his brand over all else. Rest assured, he’s going to be a silent partner when it comes to MLB.
People discredit Curt Schilling too, right?
As a Red Sox fan I love Stanton and cheered when the Yanks “stole” him. I think LBJ is better than cheating A-Rod would have been. A guy that sued MLB and tried to destroy careers because he was caught doping should not be allowed to own a team. That is a turnoff. I can see why you would dislike LBJ being a Knicks fan and all.
They would not have to announce it publicly for 5%. Has to be 12.5% or more.
Exactly. People are saying he is a bad human being and flops. Who tf cares. I just thought it was fun to see a Lakers player join the Boston ORG. Idc because he won’t be a major cause doing things.
Lindor and Mets started contract negotiations!!
Happy Mets Fan! Nothing serious though but a good start. 15 days to get the extension done then he’s off to face Max and Co in DC.
Yeah lol. But before he was saying they haven’t started so I’m in a good mood rn.
No one is scared of the Nats, or anyone else, in April
Well, with two cash cows like the team and NESN having a rough 2020, and a likely rougher 2021, it makes sense to add investors; cash flow is king. And the other elements (soccer team, racing) are still pretty strong. And Henry/Werner really don’t care about a man’s politics; flash enough green and Kim Jung Un can join the party.
All pro sports are heading to streaming, Bob. They can charge less money hoping to get more customers (customers are cord cutting – non-sports fans won’t play cable charges that include sports, they want a la cart menus). Silicon Valley companies are putting out better canned programs then the TV networks. Cable and regular TV depend on live events – primarily sports – to survive. They are both about to implode, and financial people know it.
Crypto is not just currencies. It’s networks set up that are accessible via the Internet. People can put their projects on there and build businesses. They can put their business computer systems on there (banks are in the process of doing just that). The new Apple iPhone has an imbedded camera as sharp as those sold to professional media and movie making companies. You Tube is temporarily in trouble as Google has not kept up technically to play back that footage. But one of the founders of You Tube that sold to Google – and agreed not to start a competitor – has developed a software product so other people can stream that footage over crypto networks, and is licensing the technology (i.e. not competing directly with You Tube).
Everything is about to change. The issue we have in sports is whether people will go back to watching pro sports which elected to delve into politics, or whether they’ll have other options. The fact that the streaming and cable ratings for pro sports are down substantially since COVID hit is not a good sign. Naturally, those that make income as ancillary tentacles of those sports blame their current cash flow problems on COVID. But more people stayed home, so why have ratings plummeted? (Plus Scott Boras and others have maintained for decades that player salaries have nothing to do with the price of tickets….so why are they waiting for fans to buy tickets again to get the cash flow started back up?)
It’s like looking at commercial real estate. Many think that once COVID is resolved, people will go back to the office. Many others think there’s no way – employees can do more from home. Employees – especially in the big cities – don’t want to spend an hour or two a day getting into the office (let alone take business trips).
Pro sports today is sort of like Boxing in the late 40’s. A monster sport before then. But slowly consumers peeled away. They didn’t want to hear about the fighters kvetching about money, or the agent’s influence (including corruption). By the early 50’s boxing was losing larger amounts of fans each year. When Emile Griffith pummeled Benny “Kid” Paret on national TV in 1962, with Paret dying from his injuries shortly thereafter, Boxing interest dwindled. Ali brought it back for awhile, but that hasn’t lasted. We can’t even pinpoint when Boxing was no longer a major sport. Post WWII? Late 40’s? Early 50’s? After 1956 Giants-Colts Championship game. But the time of Griffen-Paret it was no longer a major attraction sport.
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Everything in the world is about to change. All due to technology. Paying to watch other people play sports when one can play and involve themselves in new areas is questionable. It’s sort of like Theo working with the Cubs to allow betting at Wrigley Field. That’s what horse racing tracks have been doing the past 10-15 years to keep customers. Turned them into electronic casinos year round and at times of the day when there is no racing. They’re failing miserably around most of the country. People can gamble with computerized machines on their home computers.
As for Baseball – much like Horse Racing – it’s hard to sell a sport to generations of potential fans that don’t understand the sport, and never truly played the sport. So OK, they understand the statistics part, and can gamble. But that’s been the situation with Horse Racing for the past 40 years as it slowly has faded. We have generation that were reared on computer games. They love Artificial Intelligence. They know that. They don’t understand the big deal about a cut-off man or the importance of a defense keeping the double play in order, or keeping a runner on base from getting an extra base on a hit. To them defense is all about each defenders range, and the player is supposed to catch a ball hit in the air or pick it up and throw it if it’s hit on the ground. It’s just computer numbers. And there are thousands of software products with graphics that do the same.
OK, Bob.
I’ll leave.
Like I needed any more reasons to despise the Red Sux. I’m just happy it wasn’t my Indians.
You mean “Cleveland Baseball Team”? Lol
That’s supposed to be funny? I would classify your comment as ignorant.
idc what cle changes there name to they will always be the Indians what next are we going to have to rewrite major league. how about this for a name for cle the tribe it’s been there nickname ever since i’ve been alive and it just seems fitting.
Exactly. That’s what I had originally typed out, but decided to change my comment.
I’ve been pushing for the Tribe name for years, even went so far as to contact the Indians front office and make my opinion be heard. Seems like not much later Dolan came out publicly and said no to Tribe, saying it was too much like Indians, not realizing what the real definition of tribe is.
I have called them Indians/Tribe since the 60’s, and I ain’t about to stop.
Cleveland went woke when they changed a harmless name.
Ignorant? Your comment was to let everyone know that you despise the Red Sox more than before. Your reason for hating them is probably more ignorant than your statement. For that, I troll you.
Dave Portnoy sure isn’t going to be happy about this
Well then I’m ecstatic about it.
F*** Dave Portnoy.
LeBron’s salary going to a billion dollars is nice to bring up. But the fact is that he became a billionaire years ago due to investments.
MLBTR doesn’t seem to understand that a players salary doesn’t equal their net worth (anymore then a Owners net worth comes solely from his sports team; or a teams revenue minus player salaries equals profits). Which is why many players are billionaires after they retire, and often before. Trevor Bauer has owned expensive rental properties in the Seattle area for years, as well some in Southern California – and who knows what else. If he isn’t over a billion in net worth now, he should be before his current contract is out. Seriously – how does a person spend $33 million in a year on consumer goods? They buy property and make other investments
“Many players” are not billionaires after they retire, or before. There are like 600 billionaires in the US and a hell of a lot more of them are owners of sports teams, not players on sports teams. Based on quick Googling, there will be FIVE billionaire athletes after Lebron joins the club, Tiger Woods, Floyd Mayweather, Renaldo, Lionel Messi and LeBron. I don’t think you understand how much money $1 billion is.
Jordan doesn’t make the list?
Oh yeah, he is. My bad. The article I copied the names from mentioned Jordan but separated him because he’s not actively playing.
There may be a couple others or a couple about to become billionaires but the vast, vast majority of athletes do NOT become billionaires.
He gambled a lot of his money away with high stakes wagers.
He gambled a lot of his money away with high stakes wagers (allegedly, of course.. but there are plenty of articles from reputable news sources documenting his love of betting on golf and at casinos).
Samuel doesnt. pushes 1000 p/e tesla and types a paragraph response every time to try and sound smart.
@ JP8;
I am smart.
You’re not.
@baseballpun
Uh like you know really like….
What in heavens name makes you think that people know the net worth of other people? Especially wealthy people whose holdings vacillate literally hour by hour. Exactly who monitors this stuff?
I’ve known players agents for decades. They joke about what is withheld from the public….and it’s understandable. One ballplayer I grew up with had his salary made public about 20 years ago – he was getting more than double the published amount. Said all the ballplayers laughed about the figures that are published.
Only the superstars can get to a billion. And even then it’s really hard. Guys like Brady never got to a billion. A billion dollars is just too much money for most athletes to make, plus taxes eat a large chunk of their yearly salary. The only way players get to a billion is if they heavily invest their salary/endorsement money. And that requires a lot of time and effort.
Bauer has a 0% chance of becoming a billionaire in his lifetime, unless he magically cures aging or something.
easy go watch the 30/30 special on bankrupt athletes a lot of these guys are poor kids with no sense of money management and now there not poor anymore. i wish i could say i would be different but if i had the money these guys do i would be either bankrupt in a few years or more likely dead in 2 weeks because i went on a bender on this fact “i’m rich i don’t have to work i can just party 24/7”
Well now there is a reason to hate the bosox
Love to see if he could hit one over the green monster?
I bet he could if he tried and put the practice in. Baseball is a hard sport to just jump in. He used to play in high school though.
Ask Michael Jordan. But I think Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders handled it pretty well.
That hate takes priority until you iet go.
Therefore, let go of the hate. Forgive. And focus on not wasting a moment of your life.
Good advice
Ugh. Jesus. No.
Wasn’t LeBron a Yankees fan back in the day?
Great. His generation ruined the NBA. Might as well infect other sports with their entitled attitudes.
He’s actually “Facebook friends” – or whatever – with my girlfriend.
She’s an artist & worked on the mural at U.S. Bank Stadium (Vikings). So she was invited to the opening. She took a selfie with Carl Eller & LeBron “liked” it.
So – oddly enough – I hear updates on him periodically. All in all, he really doesn’t seem like a bad dude.
I hate the Red Sox and do not like LeBron James, so they are made for each other.
A-ROID & JENNY TO BUY THE CRANKEES
WITH MONOPOLY $$$$$$
Well I guess it’s official, the Chi-Coms are now indeed state capitalists…
Interesting effect on player recruitment. Expect the Red Sox to be a powerhouse in about 3 years. The other teams in the AL East are basically cooked. Done.
Poor whyhaze.
He never gets it. LeBron is a Yankee fan, home slice. He’s turning the red sox into a Yankee farm club.
When you have thousands, you’re a fan.
When you have millions, maybe you’re still a fan.
When you have billions, you couldn’t care less.
P.S. There is a picture of me taken in 1964 wearing a Yankee cap. I found it in a bureau drawer in my house. Nobody in my family liked the yankees, who knows where it came from? I just put it on, end of story.
Stab in the back to fellow Yankees fans
Woke.
LeBron getting his feet wet on the ownership side, just as Steve Cohen started out as a minority owner. He’s probably hoping for an eventual Steinbrenner sale of the Yankees, at which point he’ll step in. The Steinbrenners haven’t indicated they want to sell, but they have a lot of family money they can unlock with a sale, and I don’t believe any of George’s kids have his passion to own a team.
If nothing else, he gets to see how the Red Sox operate from the inside and can report back to the Yankees. This is a man who dances to his own tunes.
Lebron has a better chance of hitting Mega Millions then owning the Yankees
And just how annoying will it be when he hits Mega Millions?!
Also, I wasn’t really serious, even though there is a lot of wealth they can unlock on a sale. People don’t realize that the Steinbrenner’s are among the “poorer” owners in the sport, having made their wealth owning the team. That said, I actually doubt the Steinbrenner’s would sell. I believe they promised their father they wouldn’t. They’ve turned it into the family business. There’s probably a better chance that one of the kids or grandkids of the current Steinbrenner’s will take over running the organization from Hal.
James is not going to have input nor be involved in any way in the baseball operations of the Red Sox. Take a look at the large list of ownership stock of FSG. There is no meaningful information a small % owner of any organization is going to have access to that is going to be shared outside that organization. Yankees have a list of minority ownership that is going to have first dibs at the Yankees if they ever go up for sale.
Are the Red Sox trying to increase their footprint in China?
Nice!
lmao!!
This is the most predictable group of commenters ever.
New here?
Yankees hating Red Sox and vice versa? It is like cats and dogs or Crips and bloods what do you expect?
It’ll be interesting as he is becoming part owner when these players want these huge salaries if he’s going to buck the trend and claim that they’re over paid kind of like he is
My goodness, the comment section of this post is a cesspool of hatred, bigotry, jealousy, racism and old men yelling at clouds. Successful rich, young, outspoken black millionaires sure do scare old lonely white people. You all really should be ashamed of yourselves.
Not really. Dude is just a loud mouth. That’s why people of all races don’t like him. Has nothing to do with how rich he is. He’d be better off playing the game he excels at because intellectually he’s below average at best.
Someone above said it was Unity……. I was thinking Cesspool as well
@cap & crunch you seem like a nice guy that means well. Your take on lebron is however misguided and uneducated. People don’t like lebron for he is uneducated and outspoken on race related issues in communities that for the most part don’t exist. No one likes a liar especially one who claims they support equality for all except those in Chinese sweatshops making his shoes.
Dudes a hypocrite and a liar and people are tried of hearing him open his mouth. Declining viewship says it all…. it Has nothing to do with what he does on court, or how rich he is. Anyone can agree he is a top 5 talent in nba all time. Relating peoples joint disdain for anything due to race regarding lebron is both untrue and a cop out. Sorry bud, no one likes a loud mouth liar and hypocrite.
What!?
Wrong number, @gargamel.
I’m not yelling at the clouds. I’m doing my:yay-I-have-more-money-&-guns-than-anyone-else-on-my block Happy Dance.
Easy mistake to make on your part as there are some similarities with basic cloud yelling-at. However, the meaning & intent are markedly different. Anyway, I’d rather not be misrepresented on this.
I’m not the least bit ashamed.
I’m just dancing, bro.
No law against that. Yet.
I must say I was no fan of LeBron and the way he plays basketball like a playground bully. Couldn’t stand the guy, hated to watch him play. Rooted against him.
That all changed when he started to speak out like Colin. Mad respect now. I still don’t care for how he plays basketball but I get it. Like Serena, he relies on incredible strength to overwhelm opponents.
My father was a white New Englander minister’s son who fought in World War Two, earned a bronze star, oak leaf cluster and Purple Heart. He was a lifetime member of the NRA, a staunch Republican. About as conservative as they come, the greatest generation. An MIT PhD at the age of 24, articulate in multiple languages, including Japanese.
And yet he admired MLK enough to quote him in one of his sermons and was a contributor to the NAACP.
I have ZERO problems with athletes saying what needs to be said, doing what needs to be done, all the time taking advantage of their position in our society and culture. More power to them. I still remember watching the 1968 Olympics awestruck by the two athletes with their fists in the air.
If not now, WHEN? This country needs to start fighting for an END to our racism. For every LeBron and Colin there are hundreds of articulate intelligent people of color doing amazing things for this country who have NO VOICE. Let them speak their minds.
We simply must move forward in this country.
So.
Someone who served tours & was decorated for their service & believes in God is normally “racist”?
What an incredibly ignorant take.
Damn.
You win again, bro.
Unbelievable. Can you read? Can you think? What is your damn brain for. A hat rest?
Swing and a miss. Big time.
Hey, not my fault you chose to give an “opinion” on something that you’ve absolutely no idea about.
That’s why I purposefully chose the word “ignorant”. Which begs the question; can you read, sir?
Here is what I’m saying:
My father had a voice. There are many people of color every bit as amazing and accomplished as my father who do not have a voice. If others have to speak for them, then at least let it be people of color.
I don’t see this country moving forward. Hell, my mother’s father fought in the Civil War! Yes, my grandfather. How far have we come? Not very.
“cesspool of hatred, bigotry, jealousy, racism“
That is what we are talking about here.
Yeah.
Crazy, ain’t it?
How in the hell did I ever wind up with a house this big!? Right? Son in private school, going on to private college. All these boats & motorcycles & stuff. Bonkers.
Don’t seem fair none now, do it?
Me being a fella who uses his head as merely a place to put his…whatchcallit?…head thingy for making it warm.
Great post, @whyhayzee.
@ Duck – Not singling you out, I like your posts for the most part and you have a great writing style but I must ask a question……
After reading all the comments in this thread, do you believe the color of LeBrons skin has anything to do with the level of intensity in the responses from the commenters ? Do you think this a healthy discussion overall going on inside these walls? And lastly Would you want your Son reading this thread and developing his thoughts based upon the responses? Guess that’s 3 Q…
@Cap
Answers:
Probably.
Not really.
& You get a pass on this one. It’s been my son & I the whole time. So we discuss any & everything. He’s the only one whom I’ve ever been completely straight with in re my tours, for example. So, I would. Not like he doesn’t see this same thing every day somewhere. Ya know?
So #3 was unfair kind of. I feel we’ve an anomalous relationship.
But I do see the point you’re making. Meaning: I’d rather he didn’t, right? Meaning: I wish the world was better, right?
But I’d be more than willing to discuss it all with him & have.
Fair enough and solid answers –
Wasn’t singling you out, just interested in your perspective as you seem like one of the few capable of some variance of criticism
And yes 3 probably wasn’t a fair Q but I guess it was just a further extension of 1 & 2 but maybe not necessary
Hey, no problem. & I don’t feel singled out.
It’s just that a lot of this stuff is pretty hard for me to accept. Ya know?
Feel like I’ve done things the right way. (College, service, worked hard, never asked for anything, etc) I’m in a competitive field, but I’ve always tried to conduct myself the right way. I’ve not been 100% successful with that. But that’s generally just navigating a capitalist economy.
I don’t mind a respectful dialogue. I don’t care to be painted with the broad strokes that seem to be commonplace, however.
How the hell else are we going to move on as a country?
Well said, @BigGargamel.
Speak for yourself, your own opinion at best. James buying into FSG ownership that includes a long list of other minority shareholders is not really relevant, yet it has been over-publicized simply due to James’ name. Just another guy with money investing it. You mis-spoke with bigotry, jealousy, racism… but that is what too many think makes your views carry any weight, they do not. Just another wanting attention without merit.
Again, you are all completely missing the point.
No.
I’m attempting one single point, sir.
Don’t speak for us vets in any way.
You have no understanding in re to this.
The vets are going to be the absolute most color blind group in the country. Why? Because a guy’s skin color, background, economic class, or what he does between the sheets doesn’t matter.
At all.
The only color that matters is uniform color & the only thing he (or she) will be judged by is their competence. The vast majority of us continue this attitude throughout our lives. It’s more about practicality than training – though there’s some of that too, for sure.
Do not deign to speak for us, sir.
You can’t.
Your citing of your grandfather’s military record as some type of proof of his “exceptional nature” is unfounded & nauseating.
If you are actually interested in a dialogue, you will have to back way the eff up from that. I’ve treated all of your other antics with a sense of humor.
But: there is absolutely nothing “funny” about this.
Clear now?
No, I am not citing anyone in my family as proof of their character. They fought. My grandfather watched soldiers getting their legs sawed off. My father documented the massacre in the Philippines. These are simple facts, NOT anything to do with their character. They served. Saying that the military is colorblind is wrong. It is NOT. I agree totally with your perspective! You are right. But I’m talking bigger picture. It should be that everyone understands what you think and understand, it is honorable. But they don’t. That is my point. I really think we are on the same side of the fence here.
Just because you type something in caps (i.e. “NOT”) doesn’t mean that it’s true. Notable in so much as this needs to be pointed out to you by someone “without a brain” – or whatever.
Your vicarious experiences don’t mean dick to me.
Perhaps you will be able to impress somebody else who is lacking in the actual experiences with all that. Won’t be me, however.
Personally, they cut about the same weight as your insults to my intelligence do: none. (Or: NONE if that’s your trip)
Wow. Sorry you have such a chip on your shoulder. I have a draft card. They didn’t need me. They drafted by brother in 1968. So yes, my experiences are vicarious. Two brothers. Can I know what it’s like? No. Can I listen? Can I watch my nephew join, fight in Iraq, come home. Sure. I’m on the sideline. I get that. But I never get attitude from family. They just know my timing was lucky. So forgive me if I don’t have real experiences. I don’t need that. I’m messed up enough. As you can tell. We will never know each other’s experiences. I can appreciate yours until you hold it over my head. Then I cut bait. I’m sorry but enough is enough. I wasn’t raised to back down so I’ll just walk away. Peace.
Of course you don’t. They are “family”.
Duh.
Why don’t you – however – inquire with them if they endorse you being a spokesperson for their experiences.
After you do, I’ll be more than willing to accept your apology, sir.
I don’t talk about their experiences. I only talk about my father’s experiences because he would not. All of his four sons constantly look for information and we share it with each other. That’s how we know.
John Henry is a dumpster fire.
Ohio-native playing for the Cavs (at the time) wearing a Yankees hat to a playoff game against Cleveland now part of the Red Sox ownership group. Cool story.
Lebron and his team like to make money, clearly. Good find, Red Sox.
Red Sox that’s a funny to spell Yankees?!
As fans we know that sports is a business but it’s also a passion and plenty of stars get involved in ownership AFTER their careers but when a player spends his entire active career marketing, posturing and seemingly putting his personal success ahead of the team he’s actually playing for, then I have to say I’m puzzled by such a star. And I suppose such a star might be LeBron.
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Add Bauer to that list.
This is just a investment…..Just a name
!!!!!
Ohio native who is a Yankee fan that owns part of the Red Sox. It doesn’t get any more fake than that. He likes to manage all the teams he plays for. I wonder how long until he demands to manage the Red Sox.
Why