June 23, 3:08 pm: Stroman is still dealing with soreness in his hip, but he’s hopeful he’ll be able to make his next start, manager Luis Rojas tells reporters (including Thosar).
June 23, 11:15 am: Stroman underwent an MRI today, and MLB Network’s Jon Heyman reports that the imaging came back clean. There’s no structural damage for Stroman, which should rule out a lengthy absence. Deesha Thosar of the New York Daily News tweets that Stroman is day-to-day.
June 22: Mets right-hander Marcus Stroman left this evening’s start against the Braves in the second inning after a visit from the trainer. The club later announced he’s dealing with left hip soreness. Yennsy Díaz came on in relief to replace him.
There’s no indication at this point that his departure was anything more than precautionary, but it’s nevertheless a concerning development. Given the current state of their rotation, the Mets can scarcely afford a lengthy absence from Stroman. Jacob deGrom has been otherworldly, and Taijuan Walker has been very good in his own right. Even before Stroman’s departure, though, there was plenty of uncertainty at the back of the rotation. David Peterson has struggled to a 5.31 ERA, and the final spot is already a question mark. Joey Lucchesi will undergo Tommy John surgery this week, with veteran Jerad Eickhoff and prospect Thomas Szapucki among the potential replacements. Tylor Megill, who has performed well over three starts at Triple-A Syracuse, is among the players under consideration for a promotion, reports Anthony DiComo of MLB.com (Twitter link).
At 37-30, the Mets are leading the National League East by four games. The front office looks likely to be on the hunt for starting pitching in the coming weeks, and that urgency will only be heightened if Stroman requires an IL stint. It’s also a critical year for Stroman, who is scheduled to hit free agency at season’s end after accepting an $18.9MM qualifying offer last winter. To this point, his decision to bet on himself has looked wise, as Stroman has tossed 85 2/3 innings of 2.31 ERA/3.55 FIP ball.
The story says hip and that might be the case, but Stroman was motioning toward his arm when explaining the problem to Rojas. Either way. it sucks.
Sometimes when people want things they end up seeing things.
FredMcGriff for the HOF
Of course he wants to make his next start. Having a career year just before his big payday as a free agent at the end of the year. I think we are seeing the most Stroman is capable of this year.
@ceyhey. I believe he was showing ‘when’ he was feeling the hip issue in his arm motion. As in, “It hurts when I’m extending out here.”.
The way he was stretching and trying to get loose looked very similar to what I go through when I get a back impingement that causes pain on my sciatic nerve.
Hopefully just a good chiropractic adjustment away from feeling fine. Stroman always seems to struggle with getting his lower back loose or having it tighten up on him during games. I could be 100% wrong, too, but the stretching motions he was doing with his legs on the mound were very similar to chiro adjustments for the lower back.
The Mets have been über cautious with starting pitchers this year.
Is this a Mets thing, or a league thing?
Mets could have a reunion with the Dark Knight
Trade you Cameron Maybin for the Dark Knoght and a dollar.
If I can throw in Hyde, you might have a deal
Sign , Nolan Ryan
Same old Mets?
Sign Nolan Ryan!
Sign Nolan Ryan
Oh , I forgot! We can’t hit either.
Yikes. This could be huge. Mets need that starting pitching. Hope he’s okay.
VonPurpleHayes, rough night for Joe Girardi.
For those who don’t know, Girardi had promised not to get involved in requesting umpires to check pitchers for sticky stuff, only to break his promise by having them check Scherzer tonight. Also, when he pulled Wheeler from the game, he called for a reliever who wasn’t on the lineup card.
You got it a little wrong. Girardi said he wouldn’t ask for gamesmanship reasons, but only if he had reason to. Scherzer was sratching his head after every pitch and the balls were dirty. That’s a valid enough reason to ask. Scherzer was not using anything, but there’s nothing wrong with asking. Also of note, managers were always allowed to ask, even before this whole mess. Now was this overkill? I think so. With the umps checking every inning, I would’ve left it alone. But it’s not as bad as you’re making it out to be. Also, I’m not a Girardi fan.
Max has dirty balls???
Haha. To be clear Max was definitely not cheating. But the balls were indeed dirty.
Were they sticky though?
“Bartolo Colon on line one, Mr. Alderson.”
I know everyone is nervous about the starting pitching, but has anyone noticed the Mets CAN’T HIT the ball and need someone who can hit more than someone who can pitch? They are .500 for the month of June after being shutout on 2 hits by the Braves tonight. Mr.Alderson, sign Bartolo Colon so he can hit as well as pitch.
Hitting is a problem but they’ve been hurt; they got a bunch of good hitters coming back. The pitchers are all far off from returning.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Pretty impressed with how they’ve hunt together with all the injuries. At this point, it’s safe to say that – for whatever reason – the NL East isn’t very good. Certainly a surprise there. Thought that’d be a helluva race.
The mets are definitely doing their part to ensure a subway series.
A reminder that pre-season predictions can be meaningless. The NL East was supposed to be the toughest division, but it’s been one of the worst. Mediocrity from top to bottom, which has allowed the Mets to stay afloat despite not being able to compete consistently against teams with winning records.
The Yankees will be watching the Mets from their coach in October and I couldn’t be any happier.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Perhaps, kitten. Perhaps.
The Yanks – however – may be like me, & go do other stuff when the season is over. Hey, out here in the upper Midwest, October has some of the best grouse & waterfowl hunting. & there’s always football, uh?
Also – & of more import – you are (as usual) getting ahead of yourself with your “predictions”. No disrespect to any of the NL East clubs but the mets would be battling the Jay’s for 4th place if they played in the AL.
Saying the Mets are a good team is backed up by the standings…. Saying the Mets are guaranteed the playoffs and the Yankees are guaranteed to be out of it implies psychic abilities and goes a long way towards why you get so much grief from folks around here.
I don’t want to hear that. Bc none of the teams in the AL east have been as injured as the Mets.
Ducky Buckin Fent
You could have stopped at, “I don’t want to hear that”.
Because I am sure you do not.
The Mets are always injured every year and you seem to want to call it bad luck every time. While I might be inclined to believe one year or even two back to back, this has gotten so frequent I’m starting to think it’s a player development and analysis issue. I don’t think anyone should be giving the Mets “browny points” anymore such as saying things like “they would win if all these players weren’t injured.”
Baseball certainly has an element of luck and misfortune but the Mets are just getting unbelievable.
Come on @Cosmo2, let @MetsFan22 make his predictions. It works well for everyone else except the Mets when he does that.
Who cares. Mets would be 5th in the AL East at full strength. Be thankful.
Perhaps on paper. It’s not translating to game time.
Before we start with the refrain that the regulars are on their way back, let’s not forget that some of those guys were not hitting before they went on the IL. Conforto and McNeil have had terrible years so far. I’m expecting both to bet better than what they have shown to date. Getting Nimmo and J.D. Davis back helps at the expense of defense.
More concerning is Dom Smith, Lindor, and McCann. Smith and McCann both look like the 2018 version of themselves and Lindor’s stats are troublesome. He’s now played 127 games since 2019 and looks nothing like he did between 2017-2019.
Lindor was just crazy overrated before the trade/signing and now reality is hitting. I think he’ll pick it up but he is what he is: a very good fielding SS whose prime has come and gone and the offense is in decline. Dumb, dumb contract that so many of my fellow fans inexplicably thought of as a steal. Fans just don’t get that players decline, you can’t judge them by their best year alone and all 300 million dollar contracts end up being terrible, some sooner than later. Dumb, dumb contract signed due to giving in to the pressure of naive, star-struck fans. Ugh.
Agreed about this contract thing. I personally feel that the Mets should’ve waited first to see how Lindor played this year due to at least the following factors:
1) How does he play in the pressure of NY after playing in Cleveland.
2) How does he look playing most of his games in the NL now. There is no exact science as to how players look with league changes, but you need to see how they succeed in regular ABs against the pitchers in that new league. What happens if there are more pitchers in the new league that have something about them that he struggles against (not necessarily talent, but somehow matchup problems for him).
3) And to me most important that should’ve been kept an eye on – the switch from playing in the AL Central to the NL East. In the AL Central, he was with Cleveland playing against lesser teams that struggled at various moments during his time there – with Cleveland usually being the consistent contender. In the NL East, make what you want about all 5 teams, but it’s a tougher division…and he’s facing much tougher pitching on the division rivals.
Just these three things should have had the Mets front office wait before signing that contract.
The good news is, if they play .500 ball the rest of the season, they put up about 90 wins. Every other team in the division would have to fair a LOT better in the second half to eclipse that same 90.
Mets lost three pitchers, a 3B, their back up catcher, #2 AND #5 starting pitcher …THIS WEEK.
Just when they are getting McNeal, Lugo, Conforto and Nimmo back, they lose another wave of players.
“Help Wanted”: trainers and staff who can figure out how to keep this team healthy.
Who? The Mets? Can’t be them because they are 6 games over .500 entering tonight. Playing .500 the rest of the way would make them 84-78.
Marlins – your team has some good young starting pitching. You need some bats and perhaps this offseason is where Miami makes their move. You get the bats and your team can make noise next year.
1 Goose Man
The “Stro Show” has bad mechanics cause of his huge head. Injuries no surprise.
It wasn’t his head that caused this injury 😉
Has anyone been put on IL for hurt feelings?
Cuz we’ve seen everything under the sun this year.
The Mets need another good starting pitcher. I think the lineup will return from injury and hit better but there’s only three MLB quality starters on this team.
Maybe its time to look at Tylor Magill in MiLB. Other than him, I don’t see anyone else in their system that looks like a good call-up.
Good call about Megill. He had some good outings in Spring Training this year, and so far has been continuing to pitch well in rhe upper minors.
Syndergaard won’t be available to start more than 1-2 games before the playoffs under a best case scenario so the Mets can’t count on internal reinforcements to continue on their playoff push and I can’t imagine this isn’t an “all-in” kind of season for them.
Unfortunately, the Mets don’t have much in quality MiLB depth, especially the pitching depth area and teams trading away good starters usually want a good prospect arm in return. I’m thinking they could target a mediocre rental arm like Pineda who won’t cost too much but who can provide them with some depth.
@martras. Maybe the lack of quality Milb depth is partly because they have exhausted their 40 man roster with neatly half of it on IL all season long?
I think their depth has been outstanding. The younger pitching talent is either hurt or a few years away. In some cases, both. I don’t think ANY team could absorb the injuries the Mets have, utilizing as many players as they have and have MORE quality waiting in the wings.
IF, and that’s a big one, they are ever at full strength, their depth will look incredible. The problem this week is that I’m not sure what they have that other teams want (that’s healthy) to use in a trade outside of Mauricio.
Mauricio + 2 lower level pitching prospects to the Twins for Austadillo (C/utility), Rogers (closer) and Berrios?
I guess you could say it was a short start
Off the field shenanigans.
My favorite daily soap opera is General Hospital – Mets
Great news for the Mets and Stroman. We’ve seen enough players losing time this year already!
While I think it would be, perhaps, a bad idea, since one can never have enough starting pitching, the Astros have 7 starters performing EXTREMELY well at the moment – wonder what we could get in exchange for one of those?
It must be frustrating to be Stroman. He tries so hard to draw attention to himself, but still nobody cares.
Ian Theodore Fanthemson
I bet Lindor put his arm against Stroman’s hip and healed it.
Somebody buy Stroman a better mattress!
Is it me or do Mets pitchers pull themselves out of games for any perceived aliment. Perhaps the couching staff is really pushing them to do this but it seems odds that they are leaving games when tests come back negative.
Kirk Nieuwenhuis For MVP
I’m obviously biased in this as a Mets fan, but I would rather that the training staff/the pitchers themselves (especially the frontline guys) be more cautious about injuries. Obviously there are consequences to that (greater stress on the bullpen) but the Mets have had basically their entire group of back of the rotation and AAAA starting options go down this week. Losing DeGrom or Stroman for the long-term would be devastating given their inability to win games with their offense so far, and would also just prevent them from even putting a major league quality product on the field.
Also, the Mets have some relevant cautionary tales in their recent history, such as Pedro and Santana. Both of them suffered career altering injuries by trying to pitch hurt.
It is this year more about biometrics rather than sabermetrics. DeGrom is well in-tune with his body, and doesn’t want to go down the route of overworking something when something just doesn’t feel right. And if he looked crosstown at Kluber, I would have to say he’s right. Same thing with Stoman. Adjusting your mechanics to accomodate avoiding discomfort is Not a good thing. Nor in a season after a season of limited innings for all pitchers, pitching all the way to exhaustion is bot good either. The Mets have been lucky that this year’s bullpen has been better than previous tears.
Of course he can make his next start — hips don’t lie.