The 2021 MLB Draft is underway, and we’ll be keeping track of tonight’s picks as they’re announced. The draft will get underway this evening with the first 36 picks — the first round proper, the compensatory round (which consists of just one pick, the Reds’ extra selection granted when Trevor Bauer rejected their qualifying offer last winter and signed with the Dodgers for more than $50MM), and then Competitive Balance Round A.
Rounds 2-10 (plus the included compensation picks and Competitive Balance Round B) will take place on Monday afternoon, and then rounds 11-20 will take place Tuesday afternoon. This year’s draft is to 20 rounds from five rounds in 2020, and the current expectation is that the 2022 draft will return to its old 40-round format, though the draft structure will be one of many topics under discussion when the league and the players’ union negotiate a new collective bargaining agreement this winter.
For more on these stars of the future, check out the prospect rankings and scouting reports compiled by Baseball America, Fangraphs, MLB Pipeline, The Athletic’s Keith Law, and ESPN’s Kiley McDaniel. As well, here is MLB Pipeline’s breakdown of the slot values assigned to each pick in the first 10 rounds, as well as the bonus pool money available to all 30 teams.
- Pittsburgh Pirates: Henry Davis, C, University Of Louisville
- Texas Rangers: Jack Leiter, RHP, Vanderbilt University
- Detroit Tigers: Jackson Jobe, RHP, Heritage Hall High School (OK)
- Boston Red Sox: Marcelo Mayer, SS, Eastlake High School (CA)
- Baltimore Orioles: Colton Cowser, OF, Sam Houston State University
- Arizona Diamondbacks: Jordan Lawlar, SS, Jesuit Prep (Dallas, TX)
- Kansas City Royals: Frank Mozzicato, LHP, East Catholic High School (CT)
- Colorado Rockies: Benny Montgomery, OF, Red Land High School (PA)
- Los Angeles Angels: Sam Bachman, RHP, Miami University (Ohio)
- New York Mets: Kumar Rocker, RHP, Vanderbilt University
- Washington Nationals: Brady House, SS, Winder-Barrow High School (GA)
- Seattle Mariners: Harry Ford, C/OF, North Cobb High School (GA)
- Philadelphia Phillies: Andrew Painter, RHP, Calvary Christian Academy (FLA)
- San Francisco Giants: Will Bednar, RHP, Mississippi State University
- Milwaukee Brewers: Sal Frelick, OF, Boston College
- Miami Marlins: Kahlil Watson, SS, Wake Forest High School (NC)
- Cincinnati Reds: Matt McLain, SS, UCLA
- St. Louis Cardinals: Michael McGreevy, RHP, UC Santa Barbara
- Toronto Blue Jays: Gunnar Hoglund, RHP, University Of Mississippi
- New York Yankees: Trey Sweeney, SS, Eastern Illinois University
- Chicago Cubs: Jordan Wicks, LHP, Kansas State University
- Chicago White Sox: Colson Montgomery, SS, Southridge High School (IN)
- Cleveland Indians: Gavin Williams, RHP, East Carolina University
- Atlanta Braves: Ryan Cusick, RHP, Wake Forest University
- Oakland Athletics: Max Muncy, SS, Thousand Oaks High School (CA)
- Minnesota Twins: Chase Petty, RHP, Mainland Regional High School (NJ)
- San Diego Padres: Jackson Merrill, SS, Severna Park High School (MD)
- Tampa Bay Rays: Carson Williams, SS/RHP, Torrey Pines High School (CA)
- Los Angeles Dodgers: Maddux Bruns, LHP, UMS-Wright Prep (AL)
- Cincinnati Reds (compensatory pick): Jay Allen, OF, John Carroll Catholic High School (FL)
- Miami Marlins (Competitive Balance Round A): Joe Mack, C, Williamsville East High School (NY)
- Detroit Tigers (CBR-A): Ty Madden, RHP, University of Texas
- Milwaukee Brewers (CBR-A): Tyler Black, 2B, Wright State University
- Tampa Bay Rays (CBR-A): Cooper Kinney, 2B, Baylor High School (TN)
- Cincinnati Reds (CBR-A): Matheu Nelson, C, Florida State University
- Minnesota Twins (CBR-A): Noah Miller, SS, Ozaukee High School (WI)
I already know the Phillies are going to pick a player that is 5 years away from being 5 years away from being ready for Triple A.
The Rangers did great by choosing Jack Leiter in the draft. He might be a terrific pitcher and he has pitched super well from a great university; Vanderbilt.
They should have taken Mayer themselves. Doubt Leiter will be anything but a journeyman over the course of his career
Hard to pass up Leiter, agree 100%. Wanted him to fall to Boston, who ended with Meyer that was another case of can’t really pass up best player in the draft left. Remember this before back in 2016 with Jay Groome, who has barely pitched the last 5y.
Right handed Leiters have not fared well in bigs. We’ll see.
Now that’s funny!
Brown Trout Fisherman
Phillies took a kid in Jr High
Well looks like the A’s are going to try again on the Max Muncy train…
A’s will probably release him and the dodgers will turn him into an all star, oh wait..
LOL! So they drafted a 12 year old?
Cant believe The Tigers took Jackson Jobe over Marcelo Mayer. This pick will come back to haunt them for years as Jackson will become Beau Burrows 2.0 while Mayer will become a Hall of Farmer. What a dumb decision by Avila and company, have no idea what’s going on in these idiots minds as they just set back the rebuild another 5 years!!!
Bro, can you give me the lottery numbers? Why are you wasting your super powers in a baseball comment section?
Also, I watched the Mayer interview. Guy doesn’t seem like much of a farmer.
Sorry MR PERFECT. Like you’ve NEVER misspelled anything on a phone type writer????????????????
Calm down bud. Take your caps lock somewhere that gives a hoot
Phone type writer? Wait, are you from the future?!?
A phone type writer?!?
Steve Nebraska is perfect. Haven’t you seen the movie?
OMG this is an all time classic melt!
I live in SD … Very little farming in Marcelo’s area … even less in Boston.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Typewriter. Holy 1986 Batman.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Jay, you put six characters in a four character word.
Maybe the guy is judging him on the pot plant Mayer once grew in his backyard?
Apparently you haven’t seen the closets and basements of the frat houses. When I was in college they were all farming Latin lettuce aka Mexican parsley. Some of them were very talented. Too bad they couldn’t get a subsidy check so they could make a career out of it. I tried once myself but my girlfriend’s pet rabbit ate my crop.
Relax Jay. Nebraska was a bit snarky but don’t get your panties in a bunch.
Nebraska is always snarky. But man that farmer/famer catch was absolutely killer. Sorry Jay nobody’s perfect but he sure got you haha
C’mon man if you’re gonna quote dumb and dumber go all in not only half way.
Did anyone notice the athletics drafted Max Muncy?
Lost it at phone type writer
Did you know that the A’s drafted Max Muncy of the Doyers also?
That’s such an intelligent comment. I’m impressed by your spectacular vocabulary. Can you learn me some of that Mr Nebraska (what’s the average IQ in that state, about 50)???
Bro, sit out a few plays
LOL. The dude who can’t figure out how to spell (or edit) is now insulting an entire state.
Jay has left the chat…..
The draft is a crapshoot. If every top 10 pick turned out, the league would be chock full of elite talent. I would have rather they taken Rocker because he would be ready closer to the beginning of Detroit’s next window opening. But, this kid could surprise too. I’ll be watching and rooting on his progress.
You should become a scout since you know more then what Avila and the scouts see.
These so called idiots as you call them are professionals when it comes to baseball which is why they chose and have a career within the MLB. They don’t just read articles on draft choices they research, consult, watch these athletes and make a joint decision. Mr. Avila may have the last word but my guess is he listens and comes to the best possible answer at the time. Some moves pan out others don’t. If you truly believe that not choosing the one player you felt was best set the entire organization back 5 years then in my opinion you don’t know enough about the game of baseball to be commenting and expect to be taken seriously! An opinion is one thing but unfounded statements are just an easy way to show ignorance. Sit back and enjoy the game like a true fan.
A pure meritocracy, much like all those Detroit Lions GM’s, just bad luck I guess 🙁
In fairness, Avila does deserve criticism. Fans are frustrated with the series of trades that landed the Tigers next to nothing – in part because Avila broadcast he would be trading JV, JD, and the likes. No, clubs aren’t trading top level prospects much anymore, but trading those two players alone should have net resulted in more than Jake Rogers contributing at the MLB level.
Then you have the 2019 draft, that Mr. Avila and his scouts totally blew after the first round.
There is not much room for defense.
In all fairness, everyone knew JV and JD were gonna b traded well before Avila showed his hand. It was the logical progression of an aging once contending team.
That is where my defense of Avila ends. Aside from choosing some no brainer selections like Mize and Torkleson, his drafts have not seemed to produce much talent especially as far as the lineup goes. They have some promising young arms but have not seemed to be able to draft or develop positional talent and are quite a few years into rebuild now. He also completely blew opportunities to flip Fulmer and Boyd when their values were pretty high. They were clearly ahead of the rebuild as far as controllable years and passed up opportunities on each when trade value was quite high.
Of a the prospects and of all the players the Al Avila show chooses…. Nobody!
Instead of ripping people because you think you are smarter than them it would be better if they say “I think” whatever. Time will tell who is correct. The fun part about sports is that all of us fans can have our own opinions and that’s all it is right now is an opinion. No need to rip on other people’s thoughts. Continuing along those lines is when people rip on other people’s teams. Why do we need to do that? I’m a Wisconsin sorts fan but that doesn’t mean I have to rip on Chicago’s teams. Wouldn’t it be nice if people put their real opinions of other teams instead of just ripping them.
It’s always hilarious to see ignorant people like jay talk about something he’s got no idea about (like mlb draft) and talk about in a way that proves he has no idea.
Rarely do mlb teams take the top talent in the order everyone sees the top talent because of money. It’s become a more common strategy to top players who will take less money at the slot and grab talented players who are 1st round talents but have fallen because of asking price later.
The tigers got the consensus top HS arm I believe (could be wrong on that but I thought I heard that) and whom many consider the best college arm after the vandy kids. Tigers were able to do that because the kid from Texas was falling because of his asking price.
Stop thinking about the draft like other sports, never does the best players go 1.2,3,4 etc in order it’s about teams bonus money, that’s why teams don’t want to sign any of the garbage free agents every year. So next February when a bunch of free agents who want 7 years 200 mil are still unsigned and you can’t figure that out either just message me. I’ll explain that to you as well.
STFU and go screw yourself!
I was reading about prep pitchers, specially righties, crazy fail rate.
12 out of top 20 high schoolers. Tells me value to be had in college players at a lower price
way to go Avila. you let a franchise SS slip away when he shouldn’t of been there to even take. our biggest need for a high school unproven arm who doesn’t have a 3rd pitch.
Hard to walk with four balls
The Tigers drafted all bats last year and had two bats in today’s futures game and you are bend because they drafted an arm?
He’s got heart.
Except Jobe has 3 pitches, a plus fastball, a double plus slider and a plus change up. He just needs refinement because he hasn’t been pitching for that long.
STFU and go screw yourself!
Why don’t the Astros get a pick for Springer?
They threw in the trash
they do number 132
Something to do with being penalized in this year’s draft…
Am I the only one who thinks drafting a HS player is just not worth it? I mean he’s 18 years old for crying out loud in five years from now he could still be in AA doing nothing. With a college player you have a much better idea of what you’re getting
Ducky Buckin Fent
I’m no draft aficionado or whatever.
But i’ve seen – & probably yourself too – every type of pick succeed & fail in MLB (indeed the NFL, as well).
They liked him. So that’s the guy they took, uh?
Yeah I guess if teams are willing to risk the higher bust factor for a higher upside I’ve got nothing to say
Mookie, Devers, Harper, trout, Tatis were high school, there’s really no higher lower bust rate, just college are generally closer to being mlb ready being several years older
Devers was not drafted. He was signed as an IFA at age 16, so he doesn’t apply here. Same goes for Tatis, Jr. He was signed as an IFA at the age of 15 by the White Sox. The IFA market is where most teams take their biggest risks on young players and not necessarily in the draft.
Some big market teams like the Yankees may take more risk in the domestic draft. They also have an advantage in the international market as they pour huge scouting resources into it.
Harper technically wasnt HS either he played 1 year of Juco ball and took them to the Juco WS
U can make the same argument college guys aren’t worth it. McKay out of louisville was the most acclimated college player ever. The babe Ruth of college baseball. Aj puk a monster lefty worthy of a #1 pick. Nick Senzel a sure fire all star…..
Maybe McKay’s acclimation to the college game is what made it challenging to progress through the pros.
I tend to agree in most cases that HS players are too risky to draft in the Top 5 but there are many exceptions to that rule. A lot of scouts believed Mayer was the top overall player in this year’s draft so that is exciting, but I wouldn’t have disappointed if Kumar Rocker was picked here instead. What I hope happens next is that Jaden Hill (LSU pitcher) falls all the way to Round 2 due to his TJS and the Red Sox pounce on him. He has some of the best pure stuff in college; he was obviously pitching hurt this season before his UCL gave out. Give this kid a redshirt year to recover and he could be a stud! A future staff consisting of Mata, Hill, Song and possibly Whitlock looks to be a very good and inexpensive staff to build off of. Fingers crossed!
Looks like he did, and Boston passed on him.
There’s a lot more to it than judging talent by age. You can’t argue that a raw talent 18 y.o. may have more work ethic, maturity, and thicker skin than a naturally-skilled, college prima donna.
Lee Mazzilli for HOF
You never know. I caught billy koch for a season. No way i would have ever thought he would make the majors. He was great HS pitcher but never thought big league closer.
The draft was High School top heavy because they didn’t lose much playing time due to the pandemic. So scouts got to watch HS players more often. College players had a much smaller sample size. So the scouting reports for HS players were much more comprehensive.
Ducky Buckin Fent
You got your guy, bro.
I like this pick. I was scared that we were going to take one of the highschool SS. I think this is the new Rangers philosophy showing up this year. Lets freakin goooo!!!!
Getting great value on the highschool shorts. Not often to get that kind of talent at 4 let alone 6.
Wow! I don’t get it. There was no reason for Kansas City to reach that far.
Obviously they’re saving some money for later. The strength of this draft is high school hitters, and they don’t come cheap. I’ve seen him on local TV; I’ll give you a comp you won’t see often…Bill Lee. The kid is spooky…but in a really good way.
Seems like it. However, Scott Sharp said that the Royals will take best player available for each selection. Not so sure about that.
Thank you Bob for pointing that out. I was shocked they took Frank Mozzicato with this pick but understand it. He has a pretty filthy curve ball. Would have rather heard Maddox Brunsif you are going to reach like that.
Come on Moore, get some of those HS hitters!!!!
This draft has completley screwed over all the mock drafts
Haha! Sure has. Love it!
It is fun to see the unexpected happen.
Same. I feel like some fans view mocks as exactly how the draft should go. Mocks are just one person’s guesses, and they could be right or wrong. You take who you like.
Interesting. The Angels completely ignore relief pitching in the off-season, but they spend a first round pick on a relief pitcher.
Now is the time they should have drafted a starter.
Oh brother. Backwards as always.
Haha brother you have one of the most fun teams to watch in baseball, I have little sympathy for you. Must be freaking frustrating to not be able to find pitching though. Texas knows the feeling quite well.
I thought Rangers would take home town kid Lawler.
I was scared we would take Lawler, though I certainly would have made the best of it. The Rangers have missed so many times on super high upside highschool guys like Lawler.
Worst run franchise in sports. How do you pass up rocker for a reliever?
Because the Angels are not exactly the smartest franchise in baseball, but then again, that also applies to the team that I root for (Yankees).
Prospect fatigue @ Millville
Teams looked at Rocker a long time, and questions arose about his control and ability to miss big league bats. It could be a case of paralysis by over-analysis, but I think teams had too long to talk themselves out of taking him.
Never draft by needs, you draft what you think is the best player remaining in the draft.
A relief pitcher?! I was hoping Angels drafted Rocker or Madden. But when they selected Bachman, I assumed he was a starting pitcher. Oh brother.
He’s a two pitch pitcher who has a weird delivery and already has health problems. He can help them soon, but any RP can help them soon.
What I don’t understand is how they ignored non closer relief pitching last winter but spend a 9th pick on one this year.
It makes me more sure than ever that Perry is a platypus and not Agent P (pop culture reference).
Cap & Crunch
Bachman wasn’t a reach, was ranked 14th prospect before the draft and the 5 th ranked pitcher – Probably an under-slot pay as well
Makes sense building off the Detmers pick last year –
Bachman is almost pro ready himself like Detmers was
There’s already some talk of Bachman being a Garrett Crochet type who starts quickly in the pen and then becomes a starter later kinda like Canning did
Id be more concerned if the pick was a HS hitter if I was an Angel fan – Angels know they will need cheap quality inns sooner rather than later, High Schoolers don’t make sense w the ledger and timelines they already have set in place. ID want 4 of the first 5 picks to be arms and 1 middle inf if Im Ana. As long as there’s a plan ya cant get too mad at how the chips fall, I think there is at this point
I’d be more concerned if it wasn’t a pitcher but he short arms the ball., He has injuries, and the Angels passed on the second ranked starter. He may be a wonderful relief pitcher, but who drafts RPs with 9th pick after completely ignoring RPs all winter and Spring?
I have no idea what Perry is doing. I was certainly right this Winter when I question his moves. And the 9th picks upside is a bullpen arm.
Ten rounds, ten pitchers. At least I like that. Not crazy about the first round pick, but Angel fans know other than catching and a starting shortstop the position players are in place for the next few seasons. Add a bunch of college pitchers and hope you get a couple good ones.
If they can get two or three RPs, that’s a good draft.
However, I do wish the spent their highest pick since Troy Glaus on someone who was more likely to be a starter than reliever.
Cap & Crunch
I think you’d love my Hendricks and Contreras pitch to Cubs then !
Agree C and Ss is the only thing on the diamond Angels should take a look at –
Id hope they go college arms over HS as well
D*ckin the dog
I couldn’t believe it when Rocker basically fell in our laps and we passed…
I’m a Mets fan who also wants to see the Angels do well. Imagine my reaction I couldn’t believe the angels passed. And I couldn’t believe rocker fell into the Mets lap
I could have written this Halo11Fan post as soon as they picked Bauchman! With two 65-70 grade pitches already, they only need him to learn one more pitch and he becomes a viable workhorse starter. While it may have been safer to select Rocker, don’t discount what Bauchman brings to the table. The kid has a chance to be a stud starting pitcher in MLB for years to come if things continue to go well for him.
He short arms the ball. He’ll never last full seasons. And he’s already hurt. Had he been a drop and drive healthy pitcher, I’d be a lot more optimistic.
As evidence by your post, you have no clue what I was going to write.
They didn’t draft him as a work in progress. Did they?
Viable workhorse starter who throws more than 50 percent sliders, has two pitches and a 3/4 delivery? Are you nuts?
If you think that, you don’t know this game.
There is a reason he’s already hurt. He’ll never last as a starter.
I see mechanic issues with Rocker…. doesn’t mean it can’t be fixed. The comparison was Bob Gibson…. that was an extreme reach. Michael Pinada is more reasonable.
Kershaw has mechanical issues too, but that has worked out ok.
Where do you get he’s a relief pitcher? If anyone is a future reliever it’s Rocker. Just two solid pitches and a declining fastball as more innings were pitched. If Bachman is a reliever and can become a top reliever (which is possible with his stuff) let’s see what value Kimbrel brings back at the deadline. Right now I’m sure he’s seen as a starter by Minasian and crew. Way to early to judge this pick of course as it will be a solid average class if more than two of these top ten picks become better than average (2 WAR) mlb players.
I listened to the experts. I saw his delivery. Both MLB network and ESPN. ESPN also mention he has a sore arm and hip.
He has two elite pitches. Fastball, slider.
When you short arm the ball like he short arms the ball, he’ll never pitch the innings. I can’t imagine the Angels don’t know this.
Funny you mentioned Kimberly that’s who ESPN compared him to.
A lot of Angel’s fan may not like this move but I like this move. Bachman has the best fastball in the draft. It will not take him long to make the show. ;I would much rather go back to the days when we drafted and developed closers like Percival or Frankie Rodriguez than rent and change closers every single year.
On a side note, he only needs to work on his change up to become a viable starter.
Dont mind halo11fan the dude thinks jo adell is the next coming of willie Mays despite garbage production in triple a and majors. This kid is good excellent control and has 2 ++ pitches with a change up that was elite though not used a ton. Only homers look at players like rocker and think he would be a better pick, there’s a reasons he’s been passed on 2 goes around from a top selection.
I know a heck of a lot more than you do, but so does my rug,so that’s not saying much.
Cusick from Wake Forrest says hello.
Percy was a catcher. K Rod made his debut a year younger than this guy is now.
I believe Bedrock was the last bullpen arm we drafted in the first round.
So Garrett richards was a failure for angels? You act like relievers never make good starters
I mean he kinda was a failure for the Angels.
Huh? Richards? What are you smoking?
The Mets’ 2 last drafts have been sensational. Rocker’s got all the stuff, and they develop well. And you don’t have to put up with Daddy (Leiter).
I’m suprised rocker “dropped” to 10. Dude looks lights out when he’s on. Obviously based on need but I’d take an established college arm over some of the names already taken…
Never realized how wonky his mechanics are. Also, with his slider being his wipeout pitch and the way he gets his K’s, is it out of the realm of possibility to think teams might have had concerns with that pitch’s movement being affected by the substance enforcement?
Mayer was a steal for Boston.
Yep….they would have taken him if they had 1-1…
Mayer is some years away yet. But, this also gives me a takeaway that bogey isn’t long for Boston.
You wondered if they expected him to leave with the somewhat perplexing Yorke pick 1st rd last year.
Now you’ve got Downs, Yorke, plus Mayer behind a Bogey that, given how he’s played, likely opts out at age 29.
Downs/Yorke are both seeing 2b reps, but, it appears you’d see one take over 2b, the other fills in at SS until Mayer is ready then becoming a utility guy or trade bait.
Regardless, enjoy bogey while you can.
Don’t read too much into it. The timeline of a typical high-end HS hitter is long enough that you snatch the talent and then figure it out once he is on the horizon of the Majors.
Easy example: Bogaerts was questionable to stick at SS in the first place, so a move to 3B or 2B in a few years out of necessity or to help extend his career could be in the cards regardless of Mayer. If Mayer just happens to be ready to go when that happens, boom, seamless transition (even while Bogaerts continues in Boston)!
Perhaps he’ll move on himself sooner or later, but no sense in trying to guess on that at present.
If X man was that kind of guy, he would have tested free agency first time around.. He is loyal to Boston—they even signed his brother—and is smart enough to value some things more than extra millions that he doesn’t need. A high school ss’s position is meaningless: all it means is that he’s a great athlete with an arm. He might end up playing anywhere on the diamond.
Otherwise, great analysis.
I see Xander moving back to 3B in a few years… Devers to 1B/ DH and Casas coming up as 1B not 3B.. I like Bobby D… but unless he makes adjustments for more contact… he is a Utility player. Chavis will be traded at deadline to Pirates for a another Reliever… and I am not sold on Jeter Downs.
GASoxFan22 hours ago
Mayer is some years away yet. But, this also gives me a takeaway that bogey isn’t long for Boston.
It might take four years for Mayer to hit the pros. Bogaerts is already a mediocre glove at SS, I wouldn’t bet on him still playing SS 4 years from now.
That kid KC room had 4 no hitters in a row. There’s a lot of unbelievable stats in baseball. That is surely one of them
Damn Rocker is a steal.
Good for the Mets. Other teams talked themselves out of Rocker; that is the downside of analytics. He and Leiter are clearly #1 & #2 when it comes to being closest to contributing at the major league level. He never missed a start at Vandy as well. I think the Mets hit a HR with this pick and the Royals are going to be kicking themselves for years to come for passing on this kid for a high school LHP. The Cohen magic continues in NY!
But every time a coach tries to tell little Leiter something, Daddy will stick his two cents in. Too much baggage for the kid.
Doesn’t mean he’ll stink (he’s obviously very talented) but my guess is that he under performs.
He didn’t stick his nose in Corbin’s business at Vandy. Besides, it’s not like the kid can’t learn valuable lessons from his old man, who thrived at the next level.
Angels “why don’t we have starting pitchers”. Also Angels: draft a relief pitcher over Rocker with a top 10 pick.
perry must have read our complaints of the bad pen. now it is confirmed. he is stupid. perfect fit for arte morono!
Unbelievable how this team continues to make bad decisions even when good ones fall in their laps
Rocker sucks, clearly you don’t pay attention to actual scouts. He has 3 plus offerings and throws 101 was projected to be 14th best player and is a pitcher which angels need. Rocker is inconsistent and has problems with repeating mechanics. Not hard to see why they passed on him
Dude just said be throws 101 like that’s a bad thing. He is a project but his upside is way higher than the guy they picked .
I hope the Milwaukee Brewers pick a good baseball player. I would like that very much.
They better call Sal
Hahahahhah!!!! Kumar Rocker! Mets about to own the east for years to come!
He will fit right in with the Mets. He already throws their signature low-spin gyro slider.
To be fair, we could have drafted current day John Rocker and you’d be saying the same thing.
They could have drafted Harold instead of Kumar and he would say the same thing
How about letting him throw even just a minor league pitch first? A lot of smart baseball people passed on him, and I highly doubt you know more than all of them.
I doubt he knows anything more than what happens in Flushing, NY.
Frank Mozzicato Is rated as the 42nd best draft prospect by BA. Seems a bit early at 7.
Don’t put too much thought into rankings. This kid threw 4 straight no hitters. Granted, it’s weak competition but that’s still insane
sometimes it is to draft a high ceiling highschool player and entice him to sign over-slot.
For Love of the Game
Under slot, you mean?
what is the purpose of paying less to entice a player out of highschool?
Kike Can of Corn
Anyone who rates a Seager-comp and is argued as the 1-1, is an absolute steal at 4
I like the Seager comp, for offensive capabilities and baseball IQ; Seager’s in-game skills are elite, as Mayer projects to be. Mayer might have more quick-twitch though.
And that personality certainly plays in Boston.
Ghost of past pirates
Davis great pick….will be catching for the pirates in 2023. Late season call up next year
Pirates rule the draft if they can sign Solometo and Chandler
Nats and Giants did very well; Rizzo usually always does, and Fahid is quickly becoming one of the better GM/DBO out there (give me a guy like Bednar who answered the bell when it counted).
While didn’t hate the Giants pick, I thought Hoglund or Wicks would’ve been Farhans choice. Wicks reminds of a lefty Matt Cain when I see him pitch.
Bednar’s going to come quick. Hoglund is hurt of course, tho I see the Wicks/Cain comp. FWIW, Cain was always my favorite Giant pitcher; a bulldog’s bulldog. Without the greatest “stuff” in the world.
You’re dead to me Al Avila
Hard to walk with four balls
He drafted two of the top 10 players in the draft (as ranked by MLB) and you are still crying?
You fair weather fans are the worst.
Douchebag, I wrote this after he passed on Mayer and before the Madden pick. Been a fan longer than you’ve probably been alive. If you’re a tigers fan, are you happy with the 5+ year rebuild? If you are, your last name is probably Avila. Please go away.
Hard to walk with four balls
Go eat a snicker bar you grumpy old man.
Just because you bought into the Mayer hype does not mean he was the best available.
So Jobe was? And my Avila comment goes for his body of work as a GM. But if you’re a fan, it looks like you’re happy with 90-100+ loss seasons for 5+ years of a rebuild, his zero track record besides Skubel outside of rd 1 of the draft and his next to nothing returns on trades for Castellanos, JD Martinez, Verlander, etc.
MLB Pipeline rated Jobe on the same tier as Mayer, Madden just one lower. Even Fangraphs, who seem a bit less bullish on Jobe and Madden, ranked them at 8 and 12; their prospect guys thought that signing Jobe under-slot to be able to sign Madden at #32 justifies passing on Mayer. I was also really mad at Avila after the Jobe pick was announced, but I am quite happy with the Tigers’ picks now.
Hard to walk with four balls
They are not drafting for a push they are drafting to establish a winning system. One that was void of talent when Al took over because Mr.I pushed all in to win.
Were you expecting a haul for two rental OF who were known as poor defenders?
No one wanted Verlander. Both the Yankees and Dodgers could have had him (and likely a championship that year) had they given up a top tier OF prospect. If anything it says more about those club’s GM for passing on him.
Hey I’m happy to engage in talk with intelligent tigers fans as yourself. But “hard to walk with four balls” is up and down this thread acting like a smug Richard know it all. I like the Jobe pick more in hindsight knowing they got Madden but Avila had no way of knowing Madden would be there at 32 when he took Jobe 3rd. But when I have some know it all tell me I’m a fair weather crying fan because I don’t like Avila or his body if work the last 5+ years, it makes me chuckle.
He traded JD 2 weeks before the deadline. Get over yourself. He TOLD EVERYONE AT THE WINTER MEETINGS he wanted to trade Castellanos. Then he’s stunned no one wanted him. The guy tells everyone what he wants to do and then has no leverage. He coulda got a kings ransom for Fulmer a few years back. Instead he got nothing then doubled down on stupidity and didn’t trade Matthew Boyd 2 years ago when he was at peak value. Now they’re both hurt. Shocker I know. Im sorry you are an Avila fan boy, but he missed on several opportunities to improve the Tigers system. The fact you’re happy with what Avila has done is frightening on many levels.
Hard to walk with four balls
You complain that they didn’t get enough for JD. Then you complain because they didn’t give Boyd away.
You are all over the place.
Just jump back on the bandwagon when it comes around and save yourself the stress.
Give him away? Are you aware of what Al was asking for in regards to Boyd? Is Boyd part of this teams future? He’s a mediocre SP that Al refused to sell high on. He was looking to get a deal similar to what the sox got in dealing Quintana. But that’s was an outlier trade. If I’m a lifelong tigers fan why would you assume I’m a bandwagoner? You’re just a pretentious d0ucher who hasn’t even been alive long enough to call someone a bandwagon fan. But the way, here’s a link from an article on here stating what Al was looking for. Peace out homie.
If Andrew Painter and Mick Abel actually reach their potential the Phillies will have the makings of a nasty future rotation.
Odds are at least one of the two will bust. HS RHP are the most volatile demographic. But having a lot of high ceiling arms helps nonetheless.
The future Red Sox infield has me very excited. Tristan Casas @ 1B, Jeter Downs @ 2B, Marcel Mayer @ SS and one of Devers/Xander at 3B (the other at DH). They also have Nick Yorke, Matthew Lugo, Blaze Jordan and Brainer Bonaci to consider as well. Time for the Red Sox to focus on OF and pitching later in this draft!
Cap & Crunch
When MLB goes to settling ties via the HR Derby Blaze is really going to supply some value!
Red Sox need Pitching so naturally they draft a SS…
When a player like Mayer, who was projected to go #1 or #2 is still there at the #4 pick, you don’t think twice about it.
Similar to the Jays drafting Martin last season at #5 when ppl thought he was a #1 or #2 worthy pick.
Yes, the Red Sox need pitching in the majors. But unfortunately, the draft rarely helps offer targeted MLB help. This wasn’t the time for the team to try to force address that need.
Team composition can change so drastically over the course of just one year. Drafing based on major league team compsition is not a good idea.
Last time I looked… the Red Sox have two SP options they can even add soon without even making a trade before the deadline and one them is named Sale who is nasty and Houck who I believe can be a solid #3 for years to come. I would love for them to go to a 6 man rotation which I believe will help E-Rod as well…. seen enough of Garret Richards (I can’t get out of the first inning with out throwing 35 pitches and giving up a crooked #).
Safe pick for reds. Meets their profile- no real defensive home but can hit.
So much for Mayer going #1 overall. Anyone else surprised Rocker went #10?
Tbh, I personally am not surprised he fell so far. I had a feeling that he’d even go later. He lost a decent amount of velocity going from a 94-96 MPH guy to 92-94 MPH guy. He’s a fastball/slider pitcher mostly and his two other offerings are a bit questionable.
I’d rather rocker than the 1st pick. Why didn’t they draft lieter? Wired pick.
A little surprised. He was too inconsistent to go high, but #10 looks like a good gamble by the NYMs. He’s dangerous, but could be real good.
We need to remember this night that there are two other major factors that result in the outcome; the teams player development system and the players themselves. Some organizations would turn Roger Clemmons into a relief pitcher (in fact, Eddie Kasko, their player personnel guy at the time, suggested it). And some players, especially the high schoolers, figure they’ve “arrived” when they get drafted, and stop working. It’s easy to get lazy when there’s 2-3M in your bank account, and you’re 18.
It’s tough to blame the scouts for those things (tho to be fair, the ‘soft analytics” regarding the player’s personality have gotten better).
eugh, why a HS guy when Hoglund was there?
Saw that the Jays drafted Gunnar Hoglund and had to look twice to make sure I wasn’t actually on Pro Hockey Rumors.
haha Jonas Höglund was a favourite of mine back in the day for the Leafs
A lot of GMs are gonna regret passing on Jud Fabian.
I’d never heard of anyone with that last name before the original, and now we have two.
Perhaps they’ve finally perfected cloning?
They even share the same birthday.
At least the A’s can admit that Muncy is the one that got away and right their mistake.
What are the chances the A’s would make the same selection almost a decade later?
I Beg To Differ
Little confused with the Padres pick. Ty Madden was there. Ky Bush or another pitcher would have been preferable.
Course time will tell but the system needs an influx of pitching the next couple years.
Preller loves to get cutesy with the bonus pool money. We won’t know until we see who they take on day 2, but this looks like they took someone they could sign for underslot and they’re going to splurge on someone who is harder to sign, kind of like what they did with Cole Wilcox last year.
I think it’s a weird pick in the sense that the Padres usually pick toolsy high upside players and this kid is kinda average tools across the board though.
Or they could have taken the local SS/RHP from Torrey Pines that the Rays took right after them.
How many damn shortstops do the Yankees think they need? JFC!
Trey Sweeney will eventually move to third even though he wants to stay at SS. He’s too big and slow to stay as an everyday SS in bigs. He has a good glove and arm so he’s perfect fir third plus we have no 3rd baseman prospects. This kid can also hit. His lefty bat is perfect in Yankee Stadium He’s not just a power guy, he can actually hit, in fact I read somewhere he had more doubles than strikeouts last season maybe?
That doesn’t make it better. I’m tired of the idea that they think they know something other teams don’t. It’s never true.
Catchers that can’t catch and SS’s that can’t play shortstop is just trying to be tricky.
I’m all for it at times but the minors are stacked with infielders.
He faced weak competition. His slash line against fastballs 93 MPH+ was .000/.250/.000. Didn’t see a fastball harder than 95 MPH all year.
Torres is not the future at SS in New York. The fact that they have four SS’s in their top 30 prospects and just drafted another says quite a bit there
It says they have no concept of budgeting or roster construction to me.
What does drafting a SS who can’t play SS say to you?
One thing it doesn’t say is anything related to Torres BTW.
Because in reality they drafted a kid that will play stellar 3rd base. Is that too tiring of a concept for you?
All infielders are SS until they aren’t.
You can really tell these people have no idea how the mlb draft works when they’re wondering why their team drafted 3 SS with the first 3 picks lol.
Can anyone tell me why nobody is drafting any DHs or LFs? lol
Isn’t it weird that the Twins pick is having dinner with Tatis and Machado tomorrow night? Seems like he was the guy Padres wanted.
Possible. They all share the same agency though
am I blind? where is Madden?
well there we go lol
Oakland’s second chance at a Infielder Max Muncy
If at first you don’t succeed?
Same birthday, too.
Probably a variant
A lot of great talent still left on the board. Who do you think is the best pick after day one?
If he’s signable, Watson
Leiter, Mayer, Watson, Montgomery. Draft night’s a good night to be a homer and the White Sox might have gotten a real guy.
@dave, if you have a subscription to theathletic.com, there’s an article that has a story about him as a freshman facing a pitcher headed to Louisville. He got sawed off on the first AB, came back smiling. Coach asked why and he said he has him timed up now. Went out and hit three doubles that day. I’d have probably gone with a pitcher because the Sox will need more of them by then, but the pick doesn’t seem bad.
@formerdraftpick, I was surprised Rocker fell all the way to #10. The Mets have been pretty good at scouting pitchers, so I think he ends up being a good choice for them.
Hoping Rangers take Jaden Hill at 38 tomorrow. Top five talent prior to the season. Unfortunate Tommy John surgery set him back. But with the Ranges’ luck, probably a good thing the LSU stud has TJ behind him!
Personally Hoping for Jud Fabian at 38. But I would take Jaden Hill too I suppose.
Fabian’s swing and miss scares me… Bubba Chandler intrigues me a well. But he has some signibility concerns attached to him (Clemson QB commit).
I have liked James Wood better than Fabian for a while now. Even bigger, faster bat, far less swing-and-miss and left-handed.
Don’t really get the Padres’ pick either. But maybe this means they can afford to take Bubba Chandler or Josh Baez in the 2nd round? Idk
I guess the Tigers passed on the #1 SS because they plan to buy one next year. Hope Jobe works out as planned. I think they made out real well with Madden still there at #32.
I think the Tigers did as well, if not better than anyone. They ended up with two guys rated in the top 10 by MLB.com. Jobe was ranked #7 and Madden #9. That’s a very nice haul, but I don’t really like that they went to Detroit, especially after some Tigers fans just went ballistic online after the Jobe pick. But I guess not all Tigers fans are to blame.
Yeah, I thought the Tigers did well, too. You have to evaluate the draft as a whole in baseball with the slot money, not just based on the earliest selection. Method to the madness sometimes.
vincent k. mcmahon
Your clones are very impressive, you must be very proud- Obi-Wan Kenobi to Max Muncy on Kamino.
Frigin Boston made out like bandits.
Definitely like what the Tigers and Marlins did today. Gonna have to wait til tomorrow to see what Uncle A. J. does with the money I’m assuming he saved on Jackson Merrill. Then again, everyone assumed Quantrill and Weathers were signability picks and Preller ended up saving no money on them so we’ll see.
Where do they put 40 rounds of draft picks next year after the contraction of the minor leagues?
The draft will never be 40 rounds deep again
That’s 11 shortstops in the first round. Must be some sort of record.
All infielders are SS until they aren’t. Just about ever MLB infielder was drafted as a SS. Hell, Mike Moustakas was a SS.
Well not all clearly. At least two 2Bs in this mix, and every year we see drafted players at the other IF positions.
Curious about the answer I went back to the 2019 and 2020 drafts. Both featured 7 shortstops. So whether it’s a record of some kind I don’t know, but 11 is still a lot.
Mike Elias and the O’s love to stockpile Outfielders early in the 1st round. Literally for the past 25 years with the exception of a couple of seasons they’ve been drafting early and never seem to draft pitching (or at least the right ones…Matt Hobgood…woof). Hope this OF can actually get on the field. Obviously not Kjerstad fault for the heart issues but geeze let’s go Mike! Better hope this underslot system works or he won’t be long for Charm City and they will go back to making terrible free agent signings.
Jobe looks like top talent, but Tiger fans don’t see a HS pitcher as being ready soon enough. Is Avila looking for Mize’s replacement when he leaves as a free agent? I know I wanted someone that could be playing with Mize and Skubal. Hopefully, he will.come sooner than expected. Curious if they would have taken Jobe over Leiter. What’s more concerning is that Avila didn’t feel pressure to take a college guy. It would be nice to think his seat is getting just a little warm.
Ty Madden may be worse than Leiter and Rocker, but he looks like a well-advanced college arm. He might come to Detroit during the 2023 season.
As I told my Philly friend last night, I’m not a big fan of drafting to meet some sort of window of contention. Always take whomever you think is the best overall talent.
IRT to Avila’s seat getting warmer, it looks okay to me, but it is early. The Tigers are 31-27 over their past 58 games. They have some good young pitching, but need the owner to ante up a couple $$$.
Everyone seems to think this “under-slotting” is some kind of tried and true system; it isn’t; sometimes it works, often it doesn’t. I prefer the Mets approach; spend all your sheckles up front, because that’s where the “aircraft carriers” are. Spend the rest of the draft on college seniors, who will fill your organizational rosters; that’s what MOST later-round picks do in the end anyway, it’s cheaper and just as effective.
The Pirates (and Orioles) had the chance for a couple of home runs; they went for the singles. No doubt they’ll get some quality later on, but in this case, at it’s zenith, the “quality” will be “meh”. Boring players who fill the lower parts of a lineup.
Agreed, although this specific draft might have lent itself to under slotting as there was no clear #1, but overall the draft through today’s rounds is considered deep.
I suspect years on we’ll see there were as many or more home runs taken 16-30 than there was 1-15. Once again, I’m not saying there isn’t quality at the top end, but it’s not as defined as in other prior drafts.
Ducky Buckin Fent
What do you think of this Sweeny kid, @MikeD?
I don’t have a strong opinion as he was a bit of a surprise. He had helium, as they like to say now, and was rising up the boards rapidly heading into the draft. He was ranked #55 by BA (I think it was BA), which I note only because the Yankees had the 55th pick on day 2, so that means they didn’t believe he’d last until their second pick. By the rankings it feels like a slight overreach, but since they’ve changed their draft approach a couple seasons back, they’ve had good results in picking similar type players, most crushing it this year, such as Volpe and Josh Smith.
Ducky Buckin Fent
The days of my following amateur baseball are well behind me. Figured you’d have a worthwhile take.
RAB was great at keeping us up-to-date on the minors.
Ducky Buckin Fent
“Down on the farm”
To me, the value only exists if you like a projected #10 as much as a projected #5. Cowser, for example, was ranked #10 by MLB.com. IMO, Lawler was the pick here. But maybe the Orioles liked Cowser just as much. If the O’s can get Cowser to sign for $1M under-slot, and rank him equally with Lawler, then they go away with the same talent value, but $1M to spend elsewhere.
Or, just as important, maybe you see a fatal flaw on a consensus #1, like Buxton’s K/W, it might make sense to take someone safer, like Correa, and save the $1.2M for later.
And, in this particular case, I’m not sure Davis is going to be much of a under-slot savings. The 1-3 were fairly jumbled.. Personally, while I’d have been happy to see Leiter fall to #4, I don’t think he is a sure thing.
Why haven’t the Astros had a pick? I had heard that they were not punished for their sign-stealing efforts.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Well, I’ve heard they should not have been punished in the first place because, “everyone was doing it”.
Well, I am all for punishment if it means a league-wide investigation. Accountability matters.
Haven’t they been punished enough?
Ducky Buckin Fent
I think so. I also think that’s the minority opinion on the board.
minority, but you arent alone
At 21st pick, our Cubs just nailed down that extra piece they needed. I smell another championship coming in 2030.
Excellent draft by the Fish going BPA and snagging Watson plus Catcher J. Mack at 31st. 2020 draft has already brought excellent early returns.
What a haul. College bats/Pitchers should round the rest of the draft for the Fish.
Blue Jays have really been cornering the market for injury-prone pitchers in recent years. Another one for the IL.
Le Grande Orangerie
Sox fans are still pinching themselves that Mayer fell to us. With Mayer succeeding X someday, the Sox are set at the top of the league for a long time at short.
Dodgers are stocking up on pitchers. Can they start after the all start break?????
Best name in the draft is Kumar Rocker. That has marketing all over it! On top of that, he’s a big one and already going 6 innings per start at Vandy. Mets should just do his Tommy John now so he’s good to go in 2025.