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Red Sox Among Teams In Mix For Max Scherzer

By Steve Adams | July 29, 2021 at 3:10pm CDT

3:10 pm: While reports this morning suggested the Padres were more focused on Berrios, the Friars have “intensified” their efforts to land the Nationals ace this afternoon, according to Jon Morosi of MLB.com (Twitter link).

11:44am: The Red Sox are indeed in the mix for Scherzer, tweets MLB Network’s Jon Heyman, who adds that Scherzer is open to a trade to Boston. ESPN’s Jesse Rogers, meanwhile, hears that Scherzer would not approve a trade to the Astros or Phillies.

9:54am: Max Scherzer remains the most intriguing trade candidate on the market, and interested parties will get one more look at him before deciding on an asking price. Nats skipper Dave Martinez announced to reporters Thursday morning that Scherzer will start Game 1 of today’s doubleheader against the Phillies (Twitter link via Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post). It seems likely this will be Scherzer’s final start with the Nationals, and it’ll serve as an audition of sorts to prove that his triceps is at full strength; Scherzer was scratched from his Saturday start due to minor triceps discomfort, but an MRI has since come back clean.

With a reported preference to land with one of the three NL West contenders and full no-trade rights to help guide him to a destination he likes, it feels like a matter of when he’s traded rather than one of if. Jesse Dougherty of the Washington Post tweets that there’s a feeling throughout the organization that a trade will come together today.

That’s sensible, as the Nats want to leave as much time as possible post-agreement to sort out the finer details of Scherzer waiving his no-trade rights. Adjustments to his contract’s salary deferrals or smaller details along those lines could be arranged as compensation for Scherzer waiving his 10-and-5 no-trade protection. The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal writes that the Covid outbreak with which the Nationals are currently dealing may have preoccupied some key Nats personnel and slowed the pace of talks, as some expected them to have a deal in place by last night.

The acquisition price for premium rentals (e.g. Nelson Cruz, Starling Marte) has been viewed as steep thus far, and Rosenthal unsurprisingly suggests that Washington has a high price on Scherzer. We’ve yet to see one of the premium rental pitchers change hands, however — perhaps because other clubs want to wait until Scherzer is off the board before pushing their own rental starters.

While the prevailing wisdom at the moment is that one of the Giants, Padres or Dodgers are the favorites to land Scherzer, there are at least a couple other possibilities of note. The Athletic’s Jim Bowden writes that Red Sox ownership has pushed the front office to pursue a deal, for instance. The Sox have already been linked to Scherzer, but they’d be something of a surprise fit, given ownership’s longstanding reluctance to cross the luxury tax threshold. Scherzer would have to be viewed as a player worth making that exception, or the Red Sox would likely have to bolster their prospect package in order to convince the Nationals to pay down the remaining salary on Scherzer’s contract. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale, meanwhile, suggests that the Padres are more focused on Minnesota’s Jose Berrios than they are on Scherzer at the moment.

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  1. Wadz

    4 years ago

    Disaster waiting to happen

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    • Captain Dunsel

      4 years ago

      Scherzer vs Wheeler. That sounds like a great pitching duel, not a disaster.

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      • Wadz

        4 years ago

        It’s a disaster if Max gets lit up/hurt

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        • Deleted User

          4 years ago

          Hurt more than lit up. I doubt a team gets concerned from one bad start.

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        • mgomrjsurf

          4 years ago

          Bryant and Rizzo not in Lineup so they can’t get hurt.

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        • Ghost of past pirates

          4 years ago

          You shot your wadz

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        • dan-9

          4 years ago

          You could say that about any pitcher for any given start. Any specific reason he would be likely to get hurt pitching today? (I’m writing this after he already finished the game, pitching 6 strong innings, but the question stands. “Disaster waiting to happen” is a meaningless thing to say in this context.)

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      • Longtimecoming

        4 years ago

        Wheeler is a model of efficiency- first 5 pitches = 1 out and 1 walk

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      • stuffnya

        4 years ago

        Max will throw seven today

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    • MikeyChop03

      4 years ago

      Who’s getting traded mid game?

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  2. Monkey’s Uncle

    4 years ago

    Mad Max, Beyond Doubleheader

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    • Ghost of past pirates

      4 years ago

      Monkey’s idiot

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  3. Joe It All

    4 years ago

    If they’re truly going to deal him, no need for another audition, his value on the market has already hit it’s Max.

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    • saavedra

      4 years ago

      He missed his last start. There are injury concerns. They want to mitigate that.

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  4. dodgerfan83

    4 years ago

    I think the nationals would have done better to start him game 2, give teams trying to trade for him a few more hours where they could have them started him this weekend.

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    • Wadz

      4 years ago

      Teams want to see him healthy and pitching

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      • Deleted User

        4 years ago

        He is Max Scherzer. You don’t need anything else to go on.

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        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          Steve Nebraska
          He is Max Scherzer. You don’t need anything else to go on.
          ========================================================
          He’s Scherzer, but he’s had two bad games in a row. This is like Darvish. SD fans continue to say it is only 1 game, then 2, then 3. Now it is 10 games with a 5.00 ERA.

          It’s easy to ignore one game. But at his age, you know the end is not too far off. No matter how good they are, it always ends. If he has a 3rd bad game in a row, I think it would be foolish to ignore it. I would still bid, but I’d bid a lot more freely if he has his classic 10/1 K/W games.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        4 years ago

        Scherzer doesn’t need an audition. One start isn’t going to change anyone’s opinion. I don’t think he gets traded now.

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        • andymeyer

          4 years ago

          It’s to make sure there are no ill effects from the triceps issue. I’d be shocked if he’s not traded

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          4 years ago

          @AndyMeyer It’s extremely ill-advised to start him if he’s going to be traded in a day. I really think they hold on to him now.

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 years ago

          @AndyMeyer Yeah, I think the Nats are confident that he is healthy and they want to prove it to interested teams in order to maximize the return in offers they will receive.

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 years ago

          The Nats could even pull him earlier than usual after establishing that there aren’t any lingering effects from the triceps injury. I highly doubt having him start today indicates they have decided not to trade him. They still may hold on to him, but I think that would be due to not getting an offer they like.

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        • andymeyer

          4 years ago

          @Von. I don’t think so but we agree to disagree. If he shows he’s healthy and pitches well, it may go down to the wire on Friday ala Verlander and Darvish. We shall see. They’ll try and MAXimize the return! I’ll show myself out….
          😀

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        • DODGER JR

          4 years ago

          So you want to give up high end prospects for a guy coming of a tricep injury and you don’t want to see him pitch today. Damn you should call the Angels and offer your services. They need more guys that don’t have a clue what they are doing.

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        • weggiejackson

          4 years ago

          See Trevor Bauer

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        • Samuel

          4 years ago

          @ VonPurpleHayes;

          I too thought Max wouldn’t be traded. Now I do. Here’s why…..

          Look at how Rizzo builds a team. To start he’s in a large market with owners that spend. He’ll primarily base off of a few young potential stars (think Stras and Harper) and mix them with young guys he has (think Ryan Zimmerman). He slowly starts filling in decent players around them. At some point he’ll open the wallet at go after an impact free agent (think Max) to get the team to serious contending status. From there he’ll sprinkle in some farmhands and veteran players from other teams that are past their prime – but affordable and can produce in a part-time role….going after more free agents along the way.

          Right now he has 2 young veterans in Turner and Soto (and an older guy in Stras that can set some tone as a veteran). Trading Max should net him 2 decent prospects. Figuring the Nationals suck the next year or two he’ll get some high draft choices (something he’s not had in years), while their payroll goes down. They can use the savings to spend a few years later.

          This is not unlike what the Red Sox and Giants did in just 2 and 3 years respectively (also large market teams). Getting Max’s humongous salary off the books and a few decent prospects back starts the process. Rizzo’s farm system has been awful for years now. But he builds teams around star players, not quantity. He can buy the quantity needed around them with the Lerner’s payroll budget.

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        • Ghost of past pirates

          4 years ago

          Samuel…. Do you know SCHERZER personally? Where do you get off calling him MAX???? Typical of another irrelevant MLB TRADE RUMOR TROLL

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        • Samuel

          4 years ago

          New ankle biter name.

          Same moron?

          Where do you get off calling me Samuel?

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    • Chief Two Hands

      4 years ago

      The Nats reportedly want offers in place as early as possible, which is likely the reason he is starting game 1 today.

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  5. PhanaticDuck26

    4 years ago

    Pitch against the Phils in Game 1. Phils swing a trade for Scherzer and he starts Game 2 vs the Nats.

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    • Bjoe

      4 years ago

      He wants to go to a winner

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      • yanks23

        4 years ago

        Then he should go to the Bronx.

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        • KCJ

          4 years ago

          Yeah, they’re only 8.5 games out. What a homer

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        • DODGER JR

          4 years ago

          Yanks he said winner not cheaters.

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        • luckyh

          4 years ago

          Yes, Cole looked sharp today.

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  6. VonPurpleHayes

    4 years ago

    To me, this indicates a deal is not close, and perhaps even unlikely.

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    • Gterm

      4 years ago

      Agreed. If they have to audition him the offers are probably low.

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      • Deleted User

        4 years ago

        There is no auditioning a future Hall of Famer. You think Leonardo DiCaprio has to audition for roles?

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        • fs54

          4 years ago

          Yes, probably he does. Acting is very much different from baseball.

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        • LordShade

          4 years ago

          Uh, no.

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        • tstats

          4 years ago

          Good point bad analogy

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    • lemonlyman

      4 years ago

      Agreed, sounds like the Nats aren’t getting anywhere near the haul they’re looking for, and I think Rizzo would rather hold tight than deal him for a mediocre return.

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      • BlueSkies_LA

        4 years ago

        This is not the haul you are looking for….

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      • User 4245925809

        4 years ago

        Sounds like they might end up holding onto him for a comp pick. NYY, Houston and Philly for sure have read he refuses to go to, not sure about mets. neither TB, or Oakland going to pay him. List of teams dwindling.

        Boston gets Sale back anyday, with 3 rehab starts under his belt and Houck has been masterful his 2 75p starts since his return from his own health issues against WC contending toronto and NY.

        Why Boston even is in this hunt is strange enough.. Just release Richards now, replace him with Houck permanently and wonder who else gets the boot when Sale returns. Forget Scherzer and wonder who is to take over for that black hole (Dalbec) playing 1b, which is what they do need.

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        • yewed

          4 years ago

          I think Bloom is looking at this a little deeper since ownership told him they would love to get Scherzer and are willing to put up the money.

          I do believe that Boston could get exposed in the playoffs with their current starters. Agreed they absolutely need to do something about 1b..

          There’s some money involved next year but I would love to see Carlos Santana in a Sox uniform. He’s older but hasn’t slowed down too much.
          KC doesn’t seem to be letting anybody go at this point.

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    • yewed

      4 years ago

      It’s very possible. Knowing how Scherzer is he may very well have insisted on making one last start for the fans. He also put out a tweet to the Washington fans and saying some nice things that almost sounded like a goodbye without saying goodbye.

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  7. 44McCovey

    4 years ago

    Leverage game. Time is a ticking. My guess is that we’ll see more trades at the last minute.

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  8. sdbaseballguy

    4 years ago

    Hopefully he gets through the art without any issues otherwise it’s a significant loss in prospects for the Nationals.

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  9. Samuel

    4 years ago

    “…there’s a feeling throughout the organization that a trade will come together today.”

    LOL

    That’s what was written yesterday.
    –
    The chaos of trade deadlines and free agency are always fun to follow. Many fans think everything written is the total truth, and they remember what was “reported” for years to come and repeat it to one another in arguments.

    Talk to some players and agents and they’ll tell you that the overwhelming majority of what is written and said simply never happened.

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    • Colt 45

      4 years ago

      “Talk to some players and agents and they’ll tell you that the overwhelming majority of what is written and said simply never happened.”

      ding ding ding

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      • Ghost of past pirates

        4 years ago

        So what yiu are saying is that yiu never happened…..that you are a fignewton of someones imagination?????? That you are irrelevant…..get your crap together

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  10. Bi Soxual

    4 years ago

    Max pitching in that big Oracle park on a chilly Oct night.How could zaid pass that up? Shove the chips in the middle!!!!

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  11. Joel Peterson

    4 years ago

    Still holding out hope the Cardinals go after him. It’s not that I think the team needs him for 2021 although it would help. It’s that we would have a leg up on signing him in the off-season. He’s from St Louis. With all the problems lately with guys wanting to play here this is the guy to go after. Disappointed we haven’t heard more about them at least looking into him.

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    • Bi Soxual

      4 years ago

      Cardinals are going nowhere this yr,why would the Card’s or Max even look @ that possibility?Def one of the strangest put together clubs in the last 10 yrs.Spend huge on corner infield and dumpster dive for outfield and ss.I like Edman though solid ball player.

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  12. charlesk

    4 years ago

    Too bad he’s not making the first start at Rogers Centre for the Jays since September 2019 tomorrow in Toronto… c’mon Ross, swing the deal!

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    • iverbure

      4 years ago

      That would be a good way to gut the farm for no reason at all.

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  13. nats3256

    4 years ago

    Mike Rizzos one job is to get the absolute best deal he can for Max. He absolutely botched not trading Harper during the 2018 (or was it 17, i dont remember) season.

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    • 2012orioles

      4 years ago

      To make you feel better, the Orioles have gotten Dillon tate from both Britton and Machado, which I believe was the same year

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      • KCJ

        4 years ago

        2012orioles –
        Yeah, I can remember thinking “huh?” when both of those trades were announced. The Machado deal specifically. That was a head scratcher right from the start…kinda like the Padres signing Eric Hosmer to that monster contract

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    • natsgm

      4 years ago

      Rizzo had a deal for Harper. Ownership nixed it

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  14. Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies

    4 years ago

    Dun! Dun! Dun! ……and the Scherzer saga continues

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  15. Goose

    4 years ago

    Is this a sign nothing is close? Why risk an injury or not allow an acquiring team some flexibility to have him start immediately?

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      Exactly, Goose. That’s why I don’t think he’s going to be traded at all.

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  16. bigj

    4 years ago

    This comes down to 2 teams only…the Giants and the Dodgers. Both teams have prospects that the Nationals would desire and have the $$ to even sign him to an extension. My guess, he’s a member of the Giants by tomorrow….they need him to lockdown the division and be a strong contender in the playoffs.

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  17. Jeff Zanghi

    4 years ago

    It’s a little unfair to say the Red Sox ownership has had a “longstanding reluctance” to go over the luxury tax… it was just 2 years ago that they had to dip back below the line not because of money but because the draft pick penalties were becoming too steep to continue swallowing. Otherwise, ownership has been more than willing to pay the luxury tax… you just can’t repeatedly do it or you start to lose out on way too much draft pick and international bonus $ wise.

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    • kingken67

      4 years ago

      Exactly. And given this is a one year hit, with enough money coming off their books next year to easily drop below any LT mark the new CBA will have it’s not that big a concern.

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    • redsoxu571

      4 years ago

      It’s more than unfair…it’s downright misleading. Boston has paid into the tax in, if I have my numbers right, 10 of 17 seasons under the current system. That more than proves a willingness to pay into the tax.

      The author seems to have confused “an eye on not always paying the tax” and factoring the tax in for a “reluctance”. If one can get the job done without financial and draft pick penalty, why wouldn’t one go that route, all else being equal or close to it? Even the Yankees eventually decided to start factoring the tax into their thinking, because it’s silly to just pretend it doesn’t exist.

      My suspicion (but only a guess) is that the comment seems to be part of the growing mythology of the Mookie Betts trade, with people trying to push a narrative that Boston traded him not because he was likely on the way out as a FA but because there was an absolute mandate to get under the tax and thus Betts was only traded for that purpose. Guess we shouldn’t be surprised if 50+ years from now the misinformation about the trade comes to match that of the sale of Babe Ruth.

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      • Goose

        4 years ago

        BINGO!!!! We have BINGO!!! The Betts deal would have put them over the luxury tax, hamstrung them in the near and long term. All we have to do is look at the Tigers with Miggy and the Angels with Pujols. The 2nd half of that contract is going to be ugly for Betts.

        The Red Sox have been trying to dump the dead payroll, Ramirez, Panda, Porcello, etc…. to re-locate where their finances would go while rebuilding the farm.

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        • CommentsSectionCommenter

          4 years ago

          You know what’s already gorgeous, Goose?

          The first half of the Betts contract….

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        • Goose

          4 years ago

          And then the Padres broke out the whipping stick.

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    • luckyh

      4 years ago

      More than a little unfair, they have shown they’ll go all in.

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  18. beyou02215

    4 years ago

    Translation: Teams are concerned about the injury.

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  19. Rsox

    4 years ago

    Its definitely a roll of the dice to let a player who is expected to be traded at any possible moment play but it could just be the Nats couldn’t get a replacement fast enough and Rizzo is comfortable letting him play

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  20. CalcetinesBlancos

    4 years ago

    Rizzo needs to pick a lane.

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  21. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    ugh. we have to take two today.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      @DarkSide We won’t. Game 2 will be Velazquez and Marchan. We have to win game 1 because game 2 is a huge uphill battle.

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      • DarkSide830

        4 years ago

        I trust Marchan better then JT and certainly Knapp right now. it wolnt be easy, but i think winning that game would be really helpful.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          4 years ago

          I mean fair point. JT has stranded about 800 runners on based in the last few weeks. He really needs to pick it up for the Phillies to have any chance.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          4 years ago

          *base

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        • htbnm57

          4 years ago

          The Phillies are spiralling, wonder if DD can quickly switch to sell mode.

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        • 48-team MLB

          4 years ago

          It’s ironic that a franchise with a fan base full of drunk morons hired someone named DD.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          4 years ago

          Yea. They have to sell now. This team is a disgrace. The Mets gave them an open door, and the Phillies ran in the opposite direction and tripped on their own feet, breaking their noses on the ground. Just an embarrassing team. No one except Harper and Wheeler is worth anything. Even Realmuto has been slumping. Blow it up.

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      • mrpadre19

        4 years ago

        Phil’s are playing the Nats with five players on Covid including Turner.Should be able to win both games.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          4 years ago

          Well they lost both games.

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  22. Gwynning

    4 years ago

    Nats have fielded all offers and are incubating them like eggs. I’m sure all interested parties have questions regarding the triceps, hence the “audition” of sorts. Clean MRI is great news for everyone involved. There is no “bidding war” here… Max will decide where he wants to go, bar none. The Nats only hope in the matter is that Max chooses the destination offering them their favorite package. Everything sounds like a win-win situation. Almost zero percent chance Max doesn’t get dealt; no QO to offer. Just my humble opinion… enjoy the show! Kevin Brown 2.0 for San Diego? Let’s go Maximus!

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      “Almost zero percent chance Max doesn’t get dealt” if this were true, he wouldn’t be starting. I would be shocked if Scherzer gets dealt now.

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      • Gwynning

        4 years ago

        We’re rowing boats in opposite directions but enjoying the ride at the same time!

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          4 years ago

          Haha. Great line! I just think this is a baffling move to start him here. So now I’m doubtful he gets dealt, but maybe. It would certainly make sense to trade him.

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  23. bestno5

    4 years ago

    Scherzer will probably pitch a 14 inning shutout in both games today

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  24. Poundsy24

    4 years ago

    For a rental, I can’t see a MAJOR prospect haul even if it is Max… Looking at the Sox, I have to believe Casas, Downs, Duran, and Mata are off the table. Although Downs has had a rough first go at AAA this year. Sox are an intriguing fit though with a lot of mid-tier prospects. Yanks just gave up 4 top 30 prospects (2 in the top 10, none in the top 5) to nab Gallo who comes with another year of control and had Texas retain salary plus add in a decent RP.

    I think these two teams could get something done but do the Sox really want to move players from their system they worked hard to build? I would imagine the following would be one the table that the Nats might have interest in:

    OF: Jimenez?, Rosario, Decker, Chacon
    IF: Lugo, Bonaci, Cannon, Rafaela
    P: Groome?, Bello?, Murphy, Ramirez, Lui

    Common theme though is that most of these prospects are in either A or A+ so they’re far off.

    I imagine the best looking deal from the Nats perspective that the Sox may go for would be Jimenez, Bello, Cannon.

    From the Sox perspective, I think they’d want a deal that looks more like Lugo, Murphy, Rosario.

    I think the most likely deal would be something like Lugo, Bello, Chacon… but I see the Sox balking at moving any of their top prospects that are at AA OR AAA since there are so few and I would imagine the Nats want prospects closer to MLB-ready so I foresee Scherzer going elsewhere unless Rosario is an enticing enough piece of the puzzle but his season hasn’t been the best.

    Outside the box idea:
    Sox receive Scherzer and Bell
    Nats receive Dalbec, Lugo, Rosario

    Nats receive pre-arb Dalbec, well-regarded SS prospect in Lugo, and mid-tier OF prospect in Rosario who is at AA. Sox receive two awesome rentals. Bell immediately becomes everyday 1B, Scherzer and Sale sure-up the rotation. Sox make a run without depleting the farm. Plus Lugo and Rosario become expendable with the recent draft of Mayer and Fabian.

    Not sure the Sox want to move Dalbec for rentals but in my opinion they should at least be considering it because of his current value and Casas waiting in the wings. Thoughts? Who says no?

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    • LordD99

      4 years ago

      I wouldn’t hug Dalbec all that closely. Quite replaceable.

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    • bamck

      4 years ago

      I don’t think you’re too far off. I think chavis is definitely included in any deal as well

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    • Horace Fury

      4 years ago

      I’m a Sox fan and I think you forgot to include the three additional pitching prospects it would take to make this happen. And they’d have to be a lot better than Lugo, Dalbec, and Rosario. Bello would have to be one.

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      • Poundsy24

        4 years ago

        I hear you but I kindly disagree. The Nats are very likely looking at losing both players for nothing so their leverage is low. Using the Gallo trade as comparison I think this deal offers similar upside in terms of contractural control and talent upside. If there’s a bidding war the Sox may add a guy like Bello but I feel like they’d be more inclined to bow out of the race if it would cost them 4 of their top-22 prospects and a pre-arb Dalbec for two rentals that likely won’t be on either team next year.

        They could go Dalbec, Jimenez, and 1 or 2 lower level prospects but even the Yanks didn’t dip into their top-5 prospects for Gallo. Either way I think it’s more likely he ends up out West where any club will look to lock him up for a few more years and maybe offer a better package as a result.

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        • JoeBrady

          4 years ago

          Bell has another year left, so his value is already similar to Gallo, but a bit less. Fangraphs has Lugo ranked #28 among RS prospects, and Rosario #16.

          Dalbec still has some value, but I wouldn’t expect either Lugo or Rosario to provide any meaningful playing time for the RS. Jimenez has a little more value, but these are not guys anyone beats down the door for. If I could get Scherzer & Bell for Dalbec, Jimenez, and Lugo, I’d be driving them to Washington myself.

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        • Poundsy24

          4 years ago

          I misread Bell’s contract and forgot he had 1 more year of arb left. I agree it would cost the Sox more knowing that.

          My revised offer would be Dalbec, Jimenez, Ramirez if you’re basing rankings off fangraphs and not MLB.com. Or Dalbec, Jimenez, Lugo if you’re going off of MLB. Might add another lower-tier prospect in there as well

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    • Joeypower

      4 years ago

      Dude go write a letter to your parents or something! Jiiissh

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      • Poundsy24

        4 years ago

        My parents already know I love them!

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    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      The Nats say no. I kind of like Dalbec, but he’s looked pretty bad. I’m still not writing him off. I think that package has to start with either Downs or Casas. Bell alone would be a nice pickup with a year left on his contract, and being en fuego.

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    • fox471 Dave

      4 years ago

      Have to reread your post to remember what all you said.

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  25. A'sfaninUK

    4 years ago

    Boston, California.

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  26. 48-team MLB

    4 years ago

    Poll: Which is more likely in 2021?

    A) Red Sox win fifth title this century

    B) Giants win fourth title this century

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    • bamck

      4 years ago

      Red Sox. This year.

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  27. mike156

    4 years ago

    It’s a logical move for the Red Sox, because they have a good chance of going deep into the playoffs/WS and Scherzer is a difference-maker. Red Sox fans might disagree, but even an overpay might be worth a WS win

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  28. bamck

    4 years ago

    Go get him Chaim!

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  29. LordD99

    4 years ago

    Scherzer is the one true game changer seemingly available for teams making a serious World Series push. The Red Sox rotation has held up but it’s not championship caliber. Add in a Scherzer coupled with the return of Sale, and the Red Sox could be quite dangerous. That said, I think this is probably posturing by the Nats to drive up the asking price.

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    • bamck

      4 years ago

      I’m not sure. Red Sox have waited as other deals have been made. They have built up some decent prospects over the last year. I can definitely see ownership making the call to go get scherzer and see if they can’t bring another WS to Boston

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      • LordD99

        4 years ago

        Quite possible. They reset their luxury tax last year so there’s no reason not to go over the threshold this year.

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    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      Spot-on correct. I’d like Rizzo, but that just makes us a little better.

      Scherzer, OTOH, makes us really good. A vintage Sale (big if), Scherzer, Eovaldi, and ERod can line up with any playoff rotation in BB. It is also a jaw-dropping move, signaling that we are serious about the WS.

      It might also help land Rizzo. Rizzo might not be the guy that you want to go over the cap for. If we acquire Scherzer, then we are into -in-for-a-penny, in-for-a-pound territory.

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  30. whyhayzee

    4 years ago

    If Max goes to the Red Socks, underwear sales in the NYC area will skyrocket.

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  31. bencole

    4 years ago

    Weird picture. It looks like his head is photoshopped onto some skinny guy’s shoulder.

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  32. jtango

    4 years ago

    One of the best big free agent signings ever. And as a parting gift, he is even going to give the Nats some pretty decent prospects.

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  33. mrpadre19

    4 years ago

    The Padres have pretty much lit him up the last two times he faced them…and recently.
    They may not be as concerned about him going to SF or LAD as they are Berrios.
    Along with the extra year of control maybe that plays into it some as well?

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    • StupendousYappi

      4 years ago

      im sorry but this article clearly state the red sox are interested. who cares if the lowly padres beat him lol makes no difference. has nothing to do with the price of tea in china.

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    • bamck

      4 years ago

      Berrios is not even close to scherzer

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  34. StupendousYappi

    4 years ago

    The Red Sox are a joke of a franchise getting Max would be of little concern to the yankees. Yankees already got gallo next will be story and then hopefully another couple of pitchers that are better then Scherzer who is already up there in age anyway. The gallo trade will not be the last move the yankees make you can bank on that!

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    • StupendousYappi

      4 years ago

      the Red Sox have no business being in first place it will not last!

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      • Poundsy24

        4 years ago

        3rd most runs scored in baseball says otherwise! Improving the rotation with an ace in Scherzer and getting Sale back (even with the expectation he’s going to be closer to a 3rd starter than an ace) still provides a pretty solid boost!

        Also Sox are like 10-3 vs the Yanks this year 😉

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    • Gwynning

      4 years ago

      Can you educate my ignorance and tell me who these “couple of pitchers that are better than Scherzer” are? Thanks in advance.

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  35. Armaments216

    4 years ago

    Curious if true that Max doesn’t want to finish his season with Dusty’s Astros.

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  36. LetGoOfMyLeg

    4 years ago

    Garrett Richards of the Red Sox to the Nat’s + prospect(s)?

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    • Shrutefarm

      4 years ago

      Speaking of a Gerrit = Top 2 TB 4 – NYY 0.

      ERA at 4 since middle of May.

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      • talkingjunky

        4 years ago

        Sounds like a bit of a sticky situation he is in.

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  37. Bi Soxual

    4 years ago

    Mad Max would make Bos Vegas fav w Boogeyman on the way back as well.That lineup is solid 1 to 9 & interchangeable.Add Rizz team is STACKED

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  38. Goose

    4 years ago

    I don’t see the Red Sox having anything the Nationals would covet. Unless the Nats would take a package of Dalbec, Jeter Downs (#2 prospect) and Groom (#7 prospect). Downs being the jewel where the other two could step in the near future and be solid players.

    I see it as a long shot unless it is one good prospect and two or three guys that can be counted on next season to fill holes, with solid production at a cheap price for long term.

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    • Poundsy24

      4 years ago

      Downs is the #35 ranked prospect in all of baseball. The Yanks didn’t move any of their 4 top-100 guys even for an extra year of Gallo. Since Scherzer is gone for nothing next year, respectfully, I seriously doubt any club is will to off a top-100 prospect in return. Groome has pitched much better of late and could be a piece alongside Dalbec though, but I’m not sure the Sox would pull the trigger on that for 3 months of Scherzer. Maybe if Bell was involved who has 1 year of arb left they’d do a Dalbec, Groome package but otherwise I think a package would be closer to Dalbec and a couple 11-25 system ranked prospects.

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      • luckyh

        4 years ago

        Comparing Gallo to Max? Apples and elite oranges.

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  39. Cubs Dynasty

    4 years ago

    …and the click bait articles just keep spewing… perhaps parts of Scherzer will go to several contenders at the same time. Now that would be news.

    Reply
    • Goose

      4 years ago

      Scherzer is the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz. They took his arms and traded them there. They took his legs and traded them there.

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      • Cubs Dynasty

        4 years ago

        Yep, that’s how I see it… especially with his complex no trade clause!

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  40. RickEO

    4 years ago

    Friggin Redsox again. They just wont go away

    Reply
  41. dirkg

    4 years ago

    No Astros or Phillies. LOL.

    So we know now he doesn’t want to get boo’ed by the road fans nor the home fans.

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    • BlueSkies_LA

      4 years ago

      Boo’ed, is that how they showed displeasure in Shakespeare’s day?

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  42. Bi Soxual

    4 years ago

    Sox are probably dead serious about getting Max,they only made 1 summer signing for Liverpool.

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  43. BruntlettSupastar

    4 years ago

    Wherever Max goes, whenever he comes to play the Phillies, I would have the umps check his hair twice a game.

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  44. jessaumodesto

    4 years ago

    Top 5 Favorite Fried Foods:
    5. Twinkies (so good!)
    4. Oreos
    3. Fish sticks
    2. Nuggets
    1. French Fries

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    • LordD99

      4 years ago

      Never had a fried Twinkie. Where does one find such a delicacy.

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      • luckyh

        4 years ago

        Any fair or carnival type event

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  45. htbnm57

    4 years ago

    As far as the Phillies go it’s time to
    switch to sell mode.

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    • htbnm57

      4 years ago

      Typical Phillies, right when you have completely given up on them they tease you with a comeback win. Next game they will disappoint again.

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      • Bob333

        4 years ago

        They are going nowhere fast.They need to be selling including Weeler but they won’t do anything.The will say nothing out there worth giving up what we have.The are happy to be 500 and will string the fans along as usual.The owner just likes to run his mouth and is a blow hard.

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  46. BantheNFL

    4 years ago

    Bloom want give up prospects for Max he want be coming to Boston. Neither will Berios

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    • LASTSON86

      4 years ago

      He’d rather sit on his hands and HOPE these kids he’s brought into our farm system can help us be good in 5+ years from now Bc that’s the realistic timeline. Bloom just screwed over all of Red Sox nation. Now don’t even bother getting Rizzo Bc he’s not the biggest piece we need. We needed a GOOD veteran starting pitcher and what did he give us?! Martin Perez and Garret “how do I throw pitches” Richards!!!! So much for that. Hope he enjoys watching us get bounced in the first round by Asstros or the White Sox and then the Padres Winning the whole damn thing! Freaking MORON!!!! GTFO!!!!!

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  47. GreenWood Porter

    4 years ago

    Scherzer doesn’t want to go to Houston because he knows it would be ridiculously unfair to MLB making the Astros virtually unbeatable.

    Reply
  48. giants51

    4 years ago

    Red Sox were smart…… had I few additions…… they didn’t kill there young talent…..

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