The Phillies are acquiring minor league lefty Braeden Ogle from the Pirates, tweets Robert Murray of FanSided. The Pirates will receive catcher Abrahan Gutierrez, according to Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Mackey also notes that the trade “likely plays into the Pirates’ impending Rule 5 crunch,” in that Ogle would be more likely to be taken than Gutierrez. The Phillies have since announced the trade.
Ogle celebrates his 24th birthday today – happy birthday, Braeden! The southpaw was drafted in the fourth round out of high school by the Pirates back in 2016, signing for above slot. As of 2019, when he was in A-ball, Ogle moved to a bullpen role. After finishing 2019 in High-A, Ogle was able to jump to Triple-A this year after the lost 2020 minor league season. In 31 2/3 innings, he’s punched out nearly 31% of batters, but has also walked nearly 17%. Ogle hasn’t appeared on a prospect list for a while, but before 2018 Baseball America assigned him a 50 grade on account of a 94-96 mile per hour fastball as well as a decent slider and changeup.
Gutierrez was one of the players the Pirates were to receive in the Tyler Anderson trade with the Phillies that fell through, notes Matt Breen of the Philadelphia Inquirer. Gutierrez, 21, is hitting .288/.420/.429 in 2019 Low-A plate appearances this year. Prior to the season, Baseball America gave him a 40 grade, noting that Gutierrez “projects as a backup catcher if he can quicken his bat speed and make harder contact.” He projects as an average defender, according to BA. Gutierrez originally signed with the Braves out of Venezuela in 2017, but he was one of the 13 prospects who had his contract voided when GM John Coppolella was banned from MLB for life for circumventing international signing rules. Gutierrez kept his $3.53MM bonus from the Braves, but then was able to sign a new contract with the Phillies.
The Phillies’ bullpen currently sports a 4.57 ERA. Lefty Ranger Suarez has been their highest-leverage reliever of late. They have another southpaw in Jose Alvarado, who has an 8.68 ERA and 21 BB% in his last ten appearances.
Really going to shift the power in the east
Its nice that the buccos were still able to get Abrahan even tho the Tyler Anderson trade fell apart.
Nice work by Cherington so far.
wat?
I’m the Phillies, I’m not making a single trade with the Pirates this season after Cherington traded Anderson to the Mariners. If they cannot find pitching they should talk to the Cardinals about Kim and maybe Wainwright.
Yeah, because of a medical issue with one of the prospects going back. Who knows what transpired there. Perhaps the Phillies FO was less than forthcoming w/ the Pirates.
The “medical issue” was because the Pirates got a better offer. DD got played like a fiddle.
Has that been confirmed? No way to know.
Sure talent evaluators actually said the Phillies package was better.
Definitely not confirmed and perhaps unlikely.
‘better’ offers ‘usually’ come before they get as deep as the transaction did.
the phillies offer looked a bit better than the M’s so M’s probably had the second best offer before it got that far.
Not saying you are wrong, but I find it pretty unlikely.
Hilarious. This is what decades of literally giving away players for peanuts has wrought. Yeah. Ok. Real shame. Anderson was going to bring you guys a pennant, too
Purple dude – the Seattle deal was the 2nd rated behind the Phillies; Cherington simply went with #2 when #1 fell through. The medical issue was with the other Phillie prospect & unless they came up with a suitable (or better) alternative; it was go with #2. Pretty simple. Obviously you’d make a terrible GM if every time a monkey wrench messed up a deal, you cried, “I’ll never trade with you again!” In just a few short years (if you lasted that long); you’d have no one else to trade with!
If it was a ‘better offer’ it would’ve been taken immediately after the nixing of the deal with Philly. It was the second best offer… One of the prospects couldn’t be cleared so they went to option 2.
So out of spite you would risk harming the team? Great GM you’d make.
I’m not sure the Cardinals would be a buyer or a seller. If the Reds are buyers and only slightly ahead of them, it may be best to hold. Besides, does Wainwright have 10-5 rights?
Whew! All is well between DD and Cherington.
If I’m the Pirates, I don’t try making a trade with Philly again for trying to send damaged goods lol. The medicals didn’t pan out, it’s not like the Pirates backed out for the fun of it.
Ogle’s a decent arm, sad to see him go. Throws pretty hard with a nice slider. He reminds me of Justin Wilson a bit and I could see Ogle being a quality 7th or 8th inning type guy in the future. Wouldn’t be surprised if he goes straight to the MLB roster in Philly either.
To add on, Ogle has lost time due to injuries which is certainly a concern but the other side of that coin is that there is potential for his command to improve assuming he stays healthy and gets more consistent reps.
Potential for his command to improve ? Pitchers that don’t have command at his age tells me he either doesn’t put enough work in at it or he simply isn’t good enough.
Poor mechanics probably is an issue as well
Phillies are so depressing…
C’mon, we’re WS bound now! where’s the excitement!
this isn’t exactly what I had in mind when DD said they’d be aggressive at the deadline…still 4 hours to go, right?
Freakin pirates aren’t even letting them get to the Majors now
What? This guy isn’t anywhere near a top prospects list.
What are you talking about? Subjective much?
Typical of pitchers now. Big on strikeouts but has no idea where the ball is going. Batters just need to be patient and take the walk.
There’s the DD we’ve been told about…
Big splash for the fighting Phills lol
The guy knows he has made it when Tim wishes Happy Birthday.
That’s an Ogle move.
Yesterday afternoon I deleted the MLB app off my phone out of frustration after the Phillies’ minor league call-up coughed up 4 runs in the first inning. Now this breaking news punctuates it.
I really hope the Phillies have lined up several deals to SELL any tradeable players that are not part of the plan over the next few years. Let’s not buy into mediocrity.
Sanchez has generally looked good this year between AAA and the Majors. that was his first big blow up.
I bet you re-installed that app shortly after Brad Miller crushed the walk-off, ah????
if you want to get more annoyed, look at the stats of the kid the Phils gave Tampa for
Sanchez.
richard rodriguez trade?
The Phillies FO wouldn’t be able to get Richard Ramirez at this point.
I always forget that the Phils and Pirates are in different divisions despite being in the same state.
Except for the occasional spending binges , the Phils perform like the Pirates as an AAAA squad.
Yeah, I miss the days of two division in each league.
I dunno, Atlanta in the West really never made a lot of sense to me.
happy birthday Braeden!
Odd one. You’d think there has to be more around it. Can’t imagine the Phils were targeting this guy for a midseason trade.
Well the acquisition can’t hurt, can it
Pirates are gonna need room on the 40 man this off season with there recent acquisitions. Guess getting cash or whatever is better than nothing
Apparently Pirates are getting back the C they were supposed to get in the Anderson deal. Odd move from the Phillies perspective.
Nice, about 3 months ago there were zero catchers in Pirates system to care about and now there’s 4 or 5.
Yes, it is odd, isn’t it? Became a position of strength within the matter of a month. I don’t see any glaring weaknesses in the minors anymore. Maybe 1B but we’ve got Martin and I’m sure someone else will be converted. Just need to keep stockpiling pitchers.
Feels nice to have a competent front office again.
ive been ogling some pitchers for the Phils but this isnt what i had in mind.
I know everyone is going to kill Dombrowski for not making any big moves, but the Phillies have nothing to offer. No one wants our trash. Quite frankly, if this is the case, the Phillies should have sold everyone. Even though this is a winnable division, as currently constructed, the Phillies are going to be bad for a long time. It’s not because we have a cheap owner. It’s because we don’t have any pieces that anyone wants, but I’m sure fans will turn on ownership. If we stand pat at the deadline, it’s seriously time to blow it up for prospects. 10 years of non-winning seasons is embarrassing and frustrating for fans.
Drafting and development have failed this franchise. In 2012 and 2013 the excuse was they didn’t have high picks and sold off ‘spects to compete. Now whats the excuse? We have had top picks since 2014 and should have a well-stocked farm to trade for upgrades. Unfortunately, we dont.
Agreed. 100%. The worst thing to do at this deadline is nothing. Either blow away the CBT or SELL.
@TDM Absolutely TDM. And DD tried to buy, but he didn’t have any chips that anyone wanted. Barring a miracle in these last few hours, I don’t expect much of anything. This team is maddening. They have tremendous talent, but their holes are gigantic. It’s why the run differential is so huge; they have back-end starters that don’t belong in the majors. They have a subpar fielders in key positions. It’s a miracle they have a .500 record, but that speaks to how good the stars are. There is no easy way to fix this. You can’t just buy a SS and CF. You can’t just magically get a closer out of thin air. And they continue to fail to develop backend starters. Since they have nothing to trade, they need to sell. But they’re stuck in this limbo.
Phillies are just Angels East.
Except with a longer playoff drought.
Imagine if this was the only move DD makes….lol
Would not surprise me. He and Fuld have been useless to date. What a waste of five million.
I’m hoping the Phillies don’t make any major trades, because let’s be honest with ourselves here…it’s just not their year. Let’s keep these young guys together, and make some moves on the off season. It’s nice to see them at 51-51 (.500) but that just means we’re 1-2 years away
They have to buy or sell. They can’t do nothing or we get more of the same for the 11th year in a row.
They can still trade, and go after guys in FA. I agree with what your saying tho. I’ve been preaching the same thing. What I’m saying is..why give up studs for a one year rental when we can sign these guys in the off season
Smart. Getting young pitching. 6.5 BB/9 at AAA isn’t the best though
well they ended up with the player I wanted in the Anderson trade. Honestly better trade for the phillies in the long run than the anderson deal. Brandon could be a decent middle reliever sooner than later
I like the deal. Pirates went from very little possible MLB prospects at catcher to quite a few in just a couple weeks. Good Job Ben. Pitching and best talent available are really the only targets now.. .. another power bat is always good too. Mason martin at first looks like he could possibly be that guy at first.
Yea let’s add another guy that walks everybody. What is with the narrative that it doesn’t matter if he has a high walk rate he strikes people out so we should have him on our team. These are the guys you stay away from. Period.
Geat move LOL It is time to blow it up including Wheeler,Realmuto,Harper (eat some money) Harper will want out by next year anyway.Fire Girardi and find a real GM and start over we are going to suck for another 10yrs with this overpaid stars so lets go young.
So typical Phillies dumpster diving.
Is this what Dave Dombowski meant by ‘aggressive at the trade deadline’?
The Phillies went 2-4 since DD made those statements. No one to blame but the team. They stink.
Remember the deadline days of Lee, Oswalt and Pence. Tear it down
It is obvious that the phillies don’t know how to build a farm system. Other teams are trading trash for quality players. I bet the phils won’t go over tax threshold. They have average prospects like Howard and Stott etc they can trade.
The Phillies likely would go over the tax, but no one wants our garbage prospects.
NBC sports Philly just tweeted that the Phil’s are dealing with a covid outbreak in their minor league complex in Clearwater. Could be another part of why it’s quiet on the Phillies front if nobody is willing to take literally any of the low minors/complex prospects and Phil’s are probably a bit reluctant to trade guys close to the bigs since they might need them next year.
Those 4 prospects the Dodgers are giving up for Turner and Max must be world class because they are getting a great player in Turner alone..,..
The Phillies are not a small market team..By getting Dave Dombrowski I thought they might finally make the giant leap to join the likes of LA and NY..They may yet, I don’t know..I can say what I see is so disheartening..I’m a long time Phan, and this just continues to happen, year to year..
Now, my expectations for anything good for this year are diminishing by the second..
Dodgers have prospects to deal, Phils really dont.- i gave up on my expectations for anything good this year a long time ago, and didnt want them to make it worse by giving up any of the few prospects they have to rent players for a team that still wouldnt be good enough.
@raef But then they should sell and get more prospects. Doing nothing is infuriating.
Good get for the pirates. I like the Seattle trade package better and they still got the catcher they wanted. Pirates couldn’t seem to teach this guy control and Phillies think they can and need near mlb arms.
Phillies going all in!
Being a Mets fan, this is why I don’t even look at them as competition this year. Braves are the real threat, especially after seeing how their pitching plan shut us down.