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Tyler Anderson Talks Between Phillies, Pirates Hit Late Obstacle

By Steve Adams | July 27, 2021 at 10:22pm CDT

10:22 pm: The Pirates have raised some concerns about Hernandez’s medical evaluation, reports Jim Salisbury of NBC Sports Philadelphia. It remains possible a deal sending Anderson to Philly still gets done, although that might require “modifications” to Pittsburgh’s return, per Salisbury.

4:52pm: Despite multiple reports indicating the deal had been finalized, the trade now looks to have hit a “snag,” tweets Jon Heyman of MLB Network. Mackey tweets that Anderson is now in Pirates gear and throwing in the Pittsburgh bullpen. The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal tweets that there’s some sort of issue with one of the two prospects in the deal.

That said, Anderson still isn’t starting tonight’s Bucs game. Pittsburgh has announced Luis Oviedo will make his first MLB start in place of Anderson. There’s no indication yet that the trade sending Anderson to Philadelphia is completely off, and it remains possible that the two parties could simply amend the deal to push it across the finish line. The Post-Gazette’s Mike Persak tweets that righty Max Kranick is at PNC Park, likely to replace Anderson on the roster, though he may have been summoned before any late obstacles arose.

3:07pm: The two sides are in agreement on a trade, reports Jason Mackey of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Twitter link). The Phillies are sending 21-year-old catcher Abrahan Gutierrez and 20-year-old righty Cristian Hernandez to the Pirates in return. The deal is “final,” per Mackey.

2:42pm: The Pirates and Phillies are in “serious” talks on a trade that would send left-handed starter Tyler Anderson from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia, reports Jayson Stark of The Athletic (Twitter link). The deal in question would send a pair of prospects back to Pittsburgh. FanSided’s Robert Murray first noted talks between Philly and Pittsburgh. Mike Persak of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette tweets that Anderson has been scratched from tonight’s start, which certainly suggests a move is imminent.

Tyler Anderson | Charles LeClaire-USA TODAY Sports

The potential return isn’t yet clear, though Stark characterizes the prospects being discussed as “second tier” and notes in a second tweet that catching prospect Rafael Marchan is not part of the proposed package.

That’s not exactly surprising, as while Anderson is a solid starter, he’s more the type of arm to stabilize a rotation than to push it to new heights. A free agent at season’s end, Anderson is playing on a one-year, $2.5MM contract and is still owed about $901K of that sum between now and the end of the year.

Anderson, 31, has made 18 starts for the Buccos this season and pitched at least five innings in all of them. That may not seem like a high bar, but the Phillies have routinely received short starts from the likes of Chase Anderson, Vince Velasquez and Matt Moore. A reliable source of five to six solid innings per outing is something the club could badly use — particularly with right-hander Zach Eflin currently on the shelf.

Thus far, Anderson has given the Pirates 103 1/3 innings of 4.35 ERA ball, although he’s been a bit more consistent than that number might appear at first glance. The lefty was shelled for nine runs in five frames against the Braves back on May 21 but has yielded three or fewer earned runs in 15 of his 18 starts. Setting aside that awful night against the Braves, Anderson carries a 3.75 ERA in his other 17 appearances.

Anderson doesn’t miss tons of bats (20 percent strikeout rate) or induce tons of grounders (37.3 percent), but Anderson has excellent control (5.8 percent walk rate) and has induced plenty of weak contact in the air. Among the 276 pitchers who’ve had at least 100 batted balls against them so far in 2021, Anderson’s average exit velocity of 91.7 mph on balls in the air sits in the 86th percentile.

When the Phils are at full strength, Anderson would step in as the team’s fourth starter behind Zack Wheeler, Aaron Nola and the aforementioned Eflin. He may not be locked in as a postseason starter, should Philadelphia qualify, but he could be a multi-inning option in a short postseason series or potentially a Game 3 starter, depending on the health elsewhere in the rotation. He also takes one target off the board for the division-rival Mets, who are eyeing rental starters and had been connected to Anderson as recently as this morning.

Turning to the Pirates’ end of the deal, they’ll receive some far-off but promising youngsters who joined the Phillies via international free agency. Gutierrez was originally signed by the Braves but reentered the free-agent market after Atlanta was penalized for international signing violations. He’s climbed as high as Class-A in 2021 and is enjoying an excellent season there, batting .285/.418/.424 with five homers, nine doubles and a solid 30 percent caught-stealing rate in 48 games.

Baseball America ranked Gutierrez 26th among Phillies farmhands prior to the season, calling him a line-drive hitter with average power and good knowledge of the strike zone. He landed 32nd on FanGraphs’ rankings of the Phillies system.

Hernandez is another player who didn’t rank prominently on preseason rankings of the Phillies’ system but has likely elevated his status with a strong 2021 showing. He’s pitched 56 2/3 innings at A-ball — presumably throwing to Gutierrez with regularity — and notched a 3.49 ERA with a big 31.2 percent strikeout rate and a 9.3 percent walk rate. MLB.com tabbed him 29th among Phillies prospects entering the season, noting that despite a modest $120K bonus when he signed, he might emerge as the best arm of Philadelphia’s 2017-18 signing class. Their report on him cites an above-average fastball that reaches 97 mph, a solid slider and a still-developing changeup as reasons to be optimistic about the 6’3″, 180-pound righty.

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  1. Deleted User

    4 years ago

    It’s getting pretty serious. I heard they have even sent nudes.

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    • Eovaldismemes

      4 years ago

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    • Francys01

      4 years ago

      I’m hoping Anderson to be acquired by the Dodgers instead of Phillies. The Phillies should acquire Zach Davies.

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      • DarkSide830

        4 years ago

        yeah, I wanted Davies and Marisnick in a deal. take Arrieta as a salary dump and throw in a few things for CHC.

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        • Rsox

          4 years ago

          The Phillies just finished paying Arrieta $75 million for pretty much nothing. I’m fairly sure they don’t want him back

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        • Francys01

          4 years ago

          Well it’s now official the Phillies acquired Anderson. Hopefully, they are not done adding at least one more starting pitcher. As of right now the rotation consists of Nola, Wheeler, Anderson, Moore and Velazquez because Howard left the game last night in the 4th inning due to a blister issue. Not my favorite acquisition by the Phillies, but adding Anderson could improve the rotation by a little bit. We shall see how he performs with his new club.

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        • andymeyer

          4 years ago

          Why would you want Arrieta? 3 terrible years weren’t enough?

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        • DarkSide830

          4 years ago

          it would be a salery dump and Philly would be cutting him immediately in said scenario.

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      • Shrutefarm

        4 years ago

        Is he a better option than Urias, Buehler, Price, or Gonsolin?

        I think the Dodgers have their eyes set a little higher than Anderson. .

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        • sdbaseballguy

          4 years ago

          Agree. Anderson doesn’t move the Dodgers needle.

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        • Pete'sView

          4 years ago

          Anderson doesn’t move anyone’s needle. Well, maybe Baltimore’s. Whatever the Pirates got for him—and those players are way off from MLB—were worth it.

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      • Deleted User

        4 years ago

        Anderson is a fly ball pitcher and Davies is a ground ball pitcher. The Phillies infield defense is pretty bad, granted their outfield defense is bad as well, but fly balls are easier to catch. I think Anderson would be a better acquisition for the Phillies given their roster makeup.

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    • Gwynning's Anal Lover

      4 years ago

      Lol!

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    • denistaylor

      4 years ago

      And now both teams are on administrative leave.

      Reply
    • Oldschoolandthemets1980

      4 years ago

      Mickey calloway is that you

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    • Gwynning's Anal Lover

      4 years ago

      The snag were the naked pictures.

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  2. KermitJagger

    4 years ago

    They seem to want Marchan. How about RichRod and Anderson for Marchan plus another good prospect + a lottery ticket or two.

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    • Ghost of past pirates

      4 years ago

      reports are of 2 lower tier prospects

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    • bigdaddyk

      4 years ago

      The Pirates would do that Philly will not

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    • Rsox

      4 years ago

      Pirates want Marchan in a deal for Rodriguez. Sounds like they are trying to do two separate trades instead of one mega deal. Not sure why though

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      • Bill Kane

        4 years ago

        They need a starter for Thursday instead of Velasquez. They want this deal done today for that reason. Other trade may take more time.

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  3. Shrutefarm

    4 years ago

    Back end of the rotation pitcher…nothing to see here.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      @BRUINBLUW Massive improvement over the Phillies current backend.

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      • Shrutefarm

        4 years ago

        I can’t argue that. But I doubt he is the piece that puts any team over the hump this year.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          4 years ago

          @BRUINBLOW definitely not. This won’t be the Phillies last move. Baby steps.

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        • Cohn Joppolella

          4 years ago

          I do like a good back end.

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        • Shrutefarm

          4 years ago

          That was a huge win last night..

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        • bobtillman

          4 years ago

          Cohn J: Only if it puts you over the hump.

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        • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

          4 years ago

          Cohn Joppolella, If you like a good back end, trade with the Pirates & enjoy the treasure & booty

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      • Samuel

        4 years ago

        Chase Anderson, Vince Velasquez and Matt Moore are total disasters. If the Phillies get one decent outing by a one of them out of 3 starts that keeps them in the game till the 5th inning, that’s not only good, it’s eye opening.

        It’s like watching batting practice when those guys are out there. They use up an already poor bullpen.

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        • htbnm57

          4 years ago

          Let’s hope they are all gone when the deadline comes.

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      • pittsburghbob69

        4 years ago

        With good run support and defense can definitely be a solid, 4-5 SP for a contending team. He eats innings too. Gives the bullpen a rest on days he starts. Pitches atleast 5-6 innings per start.

        Solid 4-5 SP. And a lefty. Teams can’t trot out 5 right handed SP’s in a rotation. Batters need to see different pitcher and arm angles. Not just 5 right handed fastball pitchers in a row. Tyler Anderson breaks up the monotony of Nola, Wheeler, Howard.

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        • Pete'sView

          4 years ago

          Tyler Anderson: The definition of monotony. If the Phillies think this puts them “over the hump,” Dave Dombroski and John Middleton have complete lost it.

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    • SpendNuttinWinNuttin

      4 years ago

      Cuz every team in the league doesn’t need arms… good try bud

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    • YourDreamGM

      4 years ago

      Weak number 3. Strong 4. This trade is a difference maker. With Phillies bats they have a good chance to win any time Anderson throws.

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  4. VonPurpleHayes

    4 years ago

    Now we’re talking. Controllable pitching. I expect Marchan will be part of the deal. Perhaps Rodriguez too? Edited: Oh nice. Not trading Marchan either. Good.

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    • Wadz

      4 years ago

      Hes a rental m8

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        4 years ago

        @Wadz Ahh. I see. You’re right. Still a pretty big improvement over the Phillies current backend. With Eflin injured, the Phillies have been throwing a bullpen game every 5th start, and if you’ve seen the Phillies bullpen, you know that’s a huge problem.

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      • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

        4 years ago

        I h8 to w8 m8, but I appreci8 the st8 your in, & it’s your f8 to sl8 it as a rental from the Pir8s

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    • SpendNuttinWinNuttin

      4 years ago

      1 year deal he got 2 months left lol, still a good pickup by Philly

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  5. dannyboomboom

    4 years ago

    Who cares?

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    • Goku the Knowledgable One

      4 years ago

      Tyler Anderson is actually one of the better SP in the league this year.

      So I guess people who aren’t oblivious to baseball might care.

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      • Pete'sView

        4 years ago

        Freddy H — Ha, ha!

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  6. Ghost of past pirates

    4 years ago

    isnt your basement getting warm????? go out get some air quit being a trolling clown this is for steve nobraska

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  7. andrew wilson

    4 years ago

    Hopefully… Neris will be gone after this deadline. Don’t care where he goes, As long as he is not with the Phils.

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    • robert goldstein

      4 years ago

      Neris is going nowhere for the rest of this year.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      Neris is fine in certain situations. He was a big part of last-night’s win going 2 scoreless. He’s definitely not a closer though.

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  8. Bob333

    4 years ago

    Both pitchers Avg at best not worth Marchan and it will do nothing because they need another reliever and starter and cf.

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  9. MilwaukeeStrong

    4 years ago

    come on philly get it done

    Hes pitching in 3 hours against MIL and always seems to put in a nice outing.

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    • robert goldstein

      4 years ago

      He will be pulled from tonight’s start and will be pitching one of the next two games agter tonight for the Phillies.

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  10. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    hopefully not any of the UDFAs. Skirrow and Sullivan look like studs.

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    • Wadz

      4 years ago

      Its literally illegal to trade anyone from the recent draft until after the WS

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    • andrew wilson

      4 years ago

      I hope not too

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  11. Angels & NL West

    4 years ago

    Well played DD… good start to the deadline. Getting Anderson isn’t exciting, but he makes the Phillies better.

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  12. mlb1225

    4 years ago

    The Pirates getting Marchan back for Anderson would be a really good deal for the Bucs.

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    • Goku the Knowledgable One

      4 years ago

      Either way, pirates are creating loads of depth in minors.

      Competition will be fierce

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  13. Never Remember

    4 years ago

    Good move by Phillies if replaces Moore or Velasquez in rotation.

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  14. Rsox

    4 years ago

    Good news for the Phillies is if they acquire Tyler Anderson they can save money on uniforms by cutting Chase Anderson as they are about the same size

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      Lol. Great post.

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    • TDM

      4 years ago

      HAA

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  15. Larry David's Joe Pepitone Jersey

    4 years ago

    Good move for the Phillies. Anderson isn’t great, but he’s definitely an upgrade for the back of their rotation.

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  16. KermitJagger

    4 years ago

    Not a bad return. A lottery ticket RHP with upside included.

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    • Monkey’s Uncle

      4 years ago

      The Pirates are keeping the lottery in business this week.

      Reply
  17. bucsfan0004

    4 years ago

    Doing the trade today gives Philly an extra start out of Anderson. He was slated to pitch tonight.

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  18. Capi

    4 years ago

    Wrong Cristian Hernandez on the hyperlink… Better not be the Cubs’ Cristian Hernandez lol

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  19. jtp22

    4 years ago

    Wrong Cristian Hernandez

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  20. 48-team MLB

    4 years ago

    This all-Pennsylvania trade sets the stage for that state’s third MLB franchise, the Scranton Sheep.

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    • User 4095290658

      4 years ago

      Bahhhh!

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  21. SaveTheManulas

    4 years ago

    Nice

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  22. Buccrazy

    4 years ago

    smart trade both teams

    anderson signed for this purpose only to get some kind of prospects at the end of july

    he should be good for philly and improvement over the bums they have

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  23. Canosucks

    4 years ago

    In true sportsmanship as a long time Mets fan congrats to the Phillies and just reflects again how horrible Mets management is. New owner and same bad management.
    When Cohen put Sandy back I knew it was hopeless.

    I picked the Phillies to win the division at the start; better organization, better upper and lower management. Rojas batting Conforto third in 2 -0 loss to the braves; that says it all.

    Once again Philly fans it could be worse; you could be a Mets fan!

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    • 48-team MLB

      4 years ago

      The Mets will become the Rochester Rabbits before long.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      @Canosucks I don’t understand this post. Over Tyler Anderson?? This is not the hill to die on.

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    • Larry David's Joe Pepitone Jersey

      4 years ago

      This is such an overreaction. Anderson would have fit what the Mets needed, but there are plenty of other starters in the same tier. If the Mets can’t come up with a different SP with a 4.42 SIERA and 4.26 FIP, I’ll give you more credit.

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      • Canosucks

        4 years ago

        Not whining when as Kirk Nieuwenhuis For MVP points out that “would have fit what the Mets needed” Overreaction is I never said or expected him to be the cornerstone of the organization.

        Just clearly as articles pointed out ” Phillies swoop in and take…”
        I guess major sports articles are “whining”

        “If the Mets can’t come up with a different SP with a 4.42 SIERA and 4.26 FIP, I’ll give you more credit.”

        Thanks lets see and thanks for your level headed response to my post.
        My whole point is why do you have to come up with a different solution when you already let one go by to your closest division rival. I did not want to see the Mets give up to much and this was the perfect choice.

        Yes I did take Philly and was told at work by friends; “we don’t see it” at the beginning of the year.

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        • Larry David's Joe Pepitone Jersey

          4 years ago

          As a Mets fan I obviously don’t want to see the Phils get better, but at the same time I don’t think Anderson is someone worth getting in a bidding war over when comparable or better pitchers like Gray, Pineda, Kelly, Davies, etc. are still out there. If (for argument’s sake) the Mets and Phillies were competing for somebody really good, I’d be more inclined to try and block them. I’m sure the Mets have a lot of hooks in the water.

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    • DadsInDaniaBeach

      4 years ago

      You picked Philly? Humm.. I picked the Braves and Mets as a pick-um..I thought the Phillies would be fighting it out with the Guppies for 3rd place..I wasn’t feeling the Nats..still don’t.

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  24. User 4095290658

    4 years ago

    GMBC continues to buy lotto tickets with house money.

    At worst, the 2025 Buccos will be what the Toronto 40 man roster is now,

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  25. Monkey’s Uncle

    4 years ago

    Just a heads up for Tyler, I think they only take EZ Pass on the PA Turnpike these days.

    Good deal for both sides, they both get what they wanted.

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  26. tiredolddude

    4 years ago

    More prospects and assuredly, more to come. This Pirates team will be really something in 2027

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    • TJECK109

      4 years ago

      Yeah cause Tyler Anderson was a cornerstone to the franchise, sheesh the whining never stops.

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      • tiredolddude

        4 years ago

        My sarcasm is based on 55 year fandom. But thanks

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    • 48-team MLB

      4 years ago

      2027 will be Yankees over Brewers.

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  27. joblo

    4 years ago

    Phillies play the Pirates this weekend at PNC. I’ll be there and I hope Anderson will get a start for the Phils.

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  28. nyy17 2

    4 years ago

    Is Zac Eflin out on leave filming High School Musical 4?

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      He’s missing the next 3-4 starts due to a knee injury. Also, he moved on from High School Musical. He’s filming Baywatch 2.

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      • DadsInDaniaBeach

        4 years ago

        @ Von…
        (*_*)

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        • brucebochyisthemarlboroman

          4 years ago

          I heard he was slated to play Adam Warlock in the MCU….

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  29. DadsInDaniaBeach

    4 years ago

    Bad news is he has a 37% ground ball rate…Good news is he has a 37% ground ball rate..
    Between Bohm and Gregorious on the left side, there isn’t a glove big enough..

    So, other than that one outing where he got shelled, he pitches to a sub 4.0 era..Clearly an upgrade..

    Keep going Dave!

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    • Rsk3228

      4 years ago

      Torreyes should play anytime Anderson starts.

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  30. Turks444

    4 years ago

    Hey is Hernandez a 17yr shortstop or a pitcher? Because it’s showing shortstop when you hit his name.

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    • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

      4 years ago

      He’s a SS

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  31. YourDreamGM

    4 years ago

    Another win win. A’s all around. Underrated prospects. I put both closer to 10 than 30. Anderson pitching steal of the deadline. Like the article says. Gave up 3 or less runs in 15 of 18 starts. Any time your starting pitcher gives up 3 or less you have no excuse for not winning.

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    • Monkey’s Uncle

      4 years ago

      I have to agree, and having now researched these prospects a bit, as a Pirate fan I am quite happy with the return here. Both haven’t been ranked highly but shown better than expected this year; that description seems to be a recurring theme among many of the Pirate prospect acquisitions.

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      • KermitJagger

        4 years ago

        Our farm has to be awfully close to the best after the draft, these trades, and whatever trades are left to come. Been a rough number of years but it’s finally a little fun to be a Pirate fan again. At least we seem to have a GM who isn’t afraid to make moves. And they appear to be good ones.

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        • YourDreamGM

          4 years ago

          All depends if you value quality or quantity. Rays are a good mix of both. Detroit Seattle have quality at the top. The pirates don’t have a prospect that is trending as a super star. They do have the deepest system in baseball though.

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        • User 4095290658

          4 years ago

          You answered your own question.

          If the Buccos become the Rays then we’ll all be happy.

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        • PiratesFan1981

          4 years ago

          Rays got some of their talent from boneheaded trades by other clubs including the Pirates. Rays just used other clubs desperation to their favor. The new Front Office with Cherington leading the way, they are getting there slowly. As for elite prospect status, they may not have a Tatis Jr, Vady Jr, Biochette, and other former top prospects in the league, but they have a nice set of quality players who may surprise several baseball enthusiasts. For the first time in 7 years, I am getting excited about the Pirates future again. I can hope that this time around they don’t trade off prospects and deplete the system again. They were (old front office) buyers or sellers, no in between. With Cherington, I feel he can do both when the time comes to be competitive. Buy a player through trades while selling another to remain competitive and keeping a balance. Something the Pirates have lacked for 40 years.

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  32. Metsin777

    4 years ago

    Thank god the Phillies got him, I didn’t want him on the Mets at all. Good fifth starter but the Mets have enough of those type of pitchers

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    • YourDreamGM

      4 years ago

      He is much better than a 5th starter. If there are any mets fans that actually follow baseball, they aren’t liking this move.

      Since the pirates have already scouted the philly system. DD should should make a play for Shreve Stratton and take this division.

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      • Metsin777

        4 years ago

        I never said he was a fifth starter. On most teams he could be as good as a third starter. The Mets already have Degrom, Stroman, Walker, Syndergaard, Carrasco, and Megill who I all think are better than Anderson. Rich Hill already fits the bill for a fifth starter. Anderson and Hill are pretty much the same in terms of results they bring. He would barely be a fifth starter in the Mets rotation. If anything, Anderson would just be a long relief arm

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      • Pete'sView

        4 years ago

        YourDreamGM — In NO universe is Tyler Anderson “better than a 5th starter.”

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        • Mendoza Line 215

          4 years ago

          Pete-Maybe not on a playoff team,but in the universe of all others he could be.

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    • Canosucks

      4 years ago

      5th starters; Yeah and they are all hurt that’s why there is not a named starter for tonight’s game and it was a bullpen start last night.

      Unhappy long time Mets fan

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    • SpendNuttinWinNuttin

      4 years ago

      He has 2 bad starts take them away his ERA is like 3.29…. Mets should be mad they didn’t get him lol

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  33. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    4 years ago

    Wasn’t Cristian Hernandez in the cubs system not too long ago?

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    • jimmyz

      4 years ago

      Still is, it’s a different player with the same name

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      • joew

        4 years ago

        that would be why i was confused when clicking the bbref link.. thank you!

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  34. joew

    4 years ago

    seems like a not bad pick up for both.. though Cristian is listed as an infielder not pitcher on BBref

    Another catcher into the system….

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    • joew

      4 years ago

      turns out Cristian is a different Cristian than the bbref link.

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  35. YourDreamGM

    4 years ago

    If you don’t feel bad about your team missing out on Anderson you should. Not too late though. You can still call about Kuhl. Another underrated pirates pitcher.

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    • 3Rivers

      4 years ago

      Kuhl underrated? Naaah. He has the stuff, that’s for sure. However, he’s never been able to put it all together consistently enough.

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  36. SpendNuttinWinNuttin

    4 years ago

    Real question why are the Phillies fans so bent for Marchan? You have the best catcher in the league for what like 5 more seasons?

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    • DarkSide830

      4 years ago

      people here despise Knapp

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  37. DadsInDaniaBeach

    4 years ago

    The more I ponder this get, the more I like it..The Phillies will need pitchers more next year and maybe they can resign him..
    Spenser Howard is just nothing like what we kept hearing.. He is lights out for two innings, and then loses 4mph off his fastball..I’m wondering if he doesn’t have a serious health issue…not only will the Phillies need more starters next year, they have absolutely nothing in Reading or LV..They need to stock all 3 c clubs.. Dave has his work cut out for him..

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  38. DannyQ3913

    4 years ago

    I’ll take it considering Howard and Vinnie can’t give you a combined 6 innings in their starts.

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  39. JoeBrady

    4 years ago

    I like it for Philly. They gave up nothing that will prevent them from getting another SP or RP. All their top prospects are still available.

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  40. stymeedone

    4 years ago

    I still have a hard time with 5 inning starters being called “innings eaters.” If they can’t throw 7, they aren’t saving the bullpen.

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  41. MilwaukeeStrong

    4 years ago

    late obstacle how?

    only the phillies would screw up trading for a number 5 starter..

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  42. Confortoismyspiritanimal

    4 years ago

    Are the Phillies the new Mets?

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      Phillies have been more of a mess than the Mets for quite sometime. Haha.

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      • stymeedone

        4 years ago

        Should have Checked their Green Cards.

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  43. Shrutefarm

    4 years ago

    Pirates get a late, better offer?

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      “The Pirates’ trade of Tyler Anderson to the Phillies has been held up because of an issue (presumably medical) with one of the two players going back to Pittsburgh, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. Unclear where talks stand, whether player will be replaced.” – Ken Rosenthal

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      • stymeedone

        4 years ago

        Probably just Covid.

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  44. Oldschoolandthemets1980

    4 years ago

    Hope he is now coming to Queens instead, but when Heyman reports I’m always skeptical.

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  45. Noel1982

    4 years ago

    What happened here is pirates learned Phillies tried to pull a fast one on them ! One of the minor leaguers isn’t a real person and never existed

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    • Oldschoolandthemets1980

      4 years ago

      Lol the true player to be named later

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    • Ghost of past pirates

      4 years ago

      Yep and you are a irrelevant idiot

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  46. leftykoufax

    4 years ago

    Don’t sew those numbers on the uniform just yet auntie B.

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  47. BucSox

    4 years ago

    Right at the same time the snag was reported I saw a report Mets don’t think Scherzer would approve a trade there. Maybe the Mets jumped in on Anderson late and the Pirates feigned concern over a minor issue with one of the prospects.

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    • YourDreamGM

      4 years ago

      You don’t get the medical history until a trade is agreed on. Probably something about the pitcher that raised some flags. Most likely they are getting medical opinions. If they don’t like what they hear they will try to find another player or get a lotto ticket added. May resort to another team but both parties are invested now. Should be able to work it out.

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  48. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    4 years ago

    Mackey was so confused by the Penguins’ mishandling of the Fleury situation he can’t report straight today.

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  49. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    ugh…

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  50. whyhayzee

    4 years ago

    Kind of surprised that a trade between the Phillies and Pirates would get hung up on a technicality of some sort.

    Oh wait, no I’m not.

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  51. VonPurpleHayes

    4 years ago

    The worst part of all this, is even if this all gets worked out, it’s likely that Vinny Velo will have to pitch on Thursday now. The snag is huge.

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  52. njbirdsfan

    4 years ago

    Ooh let me go ahead and say lulz same old Phils like you geniuses do with the Mets over some minor issue that will probably be resolved.

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    • stymeedone

      4 years ago

      Who knew the Pirates started checking medicals?

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  53. Gwynning's Anal Lover

    4 years ago

    Maybe they wanted Maruchan Ramen Noodle Soup as opposed to Marchan in the deal?

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  54. TradeAcuna

    4 years ago

    These are the type of moves that makes you question what the Phils want to accomplish? This team is winning nothing with or without him.

    Braves and Phils need to get there act together and go big to beat the Mutts.

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  55. FullMontilla

    4 years ago

    OUCH! Oviedo bombed tonight, didn’t make it out of the 2nd

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    • bigdaddyk

      4 years ago

      Tank is strong with him so let’s let him pitch every 5 days

      Reply
  56. Phillls

    4 years ago

    Keep Marchan, trade Realmuto. Overrated and overpaid. Bad contract that will haunt the Phillies in the future. Has thrown out less than 25% of base stealers (8 of 33). Practically an automatic out with runners in scoring position. 109 runners left on base. One game winning hit in about 3 years.

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  57. htbnm57

    4 years ago

    Rumors are that the Pirates may have gotten a better offer from the Mets or are just screwing with DD

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  58. brown trout fisherman

    4 years ago

    Sounds like pirates should be investigated

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  59. Avoidlloyd75

    4 years ago

    How freaking amazing would it be to have the Mets overpay then go back to Phillies

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  60. groundhog5150

    4 years ago

    DD tried to pull an A.J.

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  61. MyWhiteSoxAreDirty

    4 years ago

    At least the caught it now… Unlike the Blue Jays with Mike Sirotka.. (zoomers, look it up)

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  62. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    eugh, take a bonus slot or something

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  63. Herc33

    4 years ago

    Passan reporting Mariners with the steal, of course Dipoto is getting involved here, just can’t help but make deals

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  64. VonPurpleHayes

    4 years ago

    Tonigt showed you how much the Phillies need pitching. Moore gave up 6 in the first two innings. These pitchers are giving them no chance. Tyler Anderson would be a great get, so I hope this snag isn’t major.

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  65. 3Rivers

    4 years ago

    The deal is “final,” per Mackey

    Smh Smh Smh

    All these writers and media members are the same. They just HAVE to be first, and when this happens they look like clowns.

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    • raef715

      4 years ago

      i think the Phils look more like clowns here than any reporter. The deal was agreed upon, it just fell through with the medicals.
      I didnt want the Phils to give up any meaningful assets as they simply have too many holes , but this would have been a reasonable move just to make it through the rest of the season- until Eflin comes back, if he comes back, they have 2 major league starting pitchers on the roster- they needed 2 or 3 Tyler Andersons (an ok pitcher who you can count on to go 5 innings) when you are trotting out VV, Moore and Howard, who rarely can go 5 at this point.

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  66. htbnm57

    4 years ago

    So much for DD being the grand wheeler dealer

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      Phillies keep spending big on managers and FO people and have absolutely nothing to show for it. DD still has some time, but if he doesn’t accomplish either a rebuild or solid acquisitions at this deadline, I think the Phillies wasted too much cash on the FO.

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  67. Bob333

    4 years ago

    Best deal to never happen for Phils it is a blessing of course the Mutts tried to pull a fast one and also got caught with their chaing hanging out.The Mariners way over paid for a below average pitcher who will win nothing in Seattle.Just glad this backfired on the Mutts.

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  68. Bob333

    4 years ago

    Fans get ready Im already hearing crickets from the Phillies OH WE TRIED,the owner said don’t go over the cap because he does not want to win just win enough to get the fans to the park you need to stop going.

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