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Rays Trade Rich Hill To Mets

By Steve Adams | July 23, 2021 at 10:50pm CDT

The Mets, in dire need of some rotation help, have found some of the rotation depth they’ve been seeking. The team announced Friday that it has acquired lefty Rich Hill from the Rays in exchange for minor league catcher/infielder Matt Dyer and veteran right-hander Tommy Hunter (who is currently on the injured list). Right-hander Robert Stock, out with a hamstring strain, was transferred to the 60-day injured list in order to open a spot on the Mets’ 40-man roster.

Rich Hill | Brad Mills-USA TODAY Sports

The swap will come as a surprise to many, given the Rays’ place in the standings and last night’s acquisition of Nelson Cruz, but it serves as another reminder that in today’s game, many clubs can’t be simply boxed into strict “buyer” or “seller” categories.

Hill, 41, has pitched to a 3.87 ERA through 95 1/3 innings so far in 2021, but he’s also struggled rather considerably since mid-June. In his past seven starts, he’s tallied just 33 1/3 innings and yielded 20 runs on 34 hits and 16 walks. Seven of those hits have left the yard, and Hill’s 28 strikeouts (19.3 percent) in that time represent a pretty pronounced decline.

Overall, Hill is sitting on a 5.40 ERA and 5.25 SIERA since June 12. As the New York Post’s Joel Sherman observes (Twitter link), he’s seen his spin rates drop considerably in the aftermath of MLB’s crackdown on foreign substances. I’d add that it may not be coincidental that Hill began incorporating a changeup (ideally a low-spin offering) into his pitch mix in early June. The 41 changeups he’s thrown over his past eight starts are already the most he’s thrown in a season since 2009.

Despite his recent struggles, Hill gives the Mets a much-needed veteran arm to plug into the back of an ailing rotation — one with more upside and a much greater track record than recent options they’ve tried. New York has yet to receive an inning from Carlos Carrasco or Noah Syndergaard in 2021, and depth options like Joey Lucchesi, Jordan Yamamoto and Thomas Szapucki are all sidelined through season’s end. Ace Jacob deGrom hit the injured list recently due to a forearm issue, and fifth starter David Peterson is out with an oblique strain.

With all of those injuries piling up, the Mets have leaned heavily on righties Marcus Stroman and Taijuan Walker, who’ve both exceeded expectations and pitched brilliantly so far in 2021. Young righty Tylor Megill has also fared well in his first five big league outings, but the Mets had a clear and pressing need to get some sort of stability into the rotation. Hill can provide that, and if he can return to his prior levels of production it could prove a difference-making move for the Mets.

From the Rays’ vantage point, it’s possible that Hill had simply fallen out of favor as one of the organization’s preferred rotation options. Tampa Bay has Ryan Yarbrough, Shane McClanahan, Luis Patino, Michael Wacha and Josh Fleming as alternatives on the big league roster, and there are several depth options behind them in Triple-A (including ballyhooed righty Shane Baz). It’s also eminently possible that the Rays will add another name of note to the rotation over the next week as they load up to chase the Red Sox in a competitive AL East title picture.

Hunter’s inclusion in the swap is seemingly as a financial counterweight to Hill. The New York Post’s Mike Puma recently indicated that it was doubtful Hunter, who has been out since May with a back strain, would be able to return in 2021. Hunter’s $2.25MM salary is a bit lighter than Hill’s $2.5MM salary, so the Rays are saving a fairly nominal $99K by agreeing to take on his contract in return.

The Rays do come away with an interesting prospect in the 23-year-old Dyer, whom the Mets selected in the fourth round of the shortened 2020 draft. Dyer has spent the season with the Mets’ Class-A affiliate and shown some concerning swing-and-miss tendencies (30.9 percent strikeout rate), but he’s also walked at a high clip and shown good power. He’s hitting .194/.329/.452 with seven homers, seven doubles, a pair of triples and six steals, and Dyer has spent time at catcher (65 innings), at first base (80 innings), at third base (66 innings) and in right field (18 innings) so far this season.

Baseball America’s scouting report on Dyer prior to last year’s draft suggested that he had a plus arm, average sped and the potential to be an average or better defender at as many as five positions, including catcher, which sounds like a player tailor-made for the Rays organization. This year’s strikeout concerns underscore that he’s far from a sure thing to hit enough to realize that potential, but he’s a somewhat interesting name to add to the system in return for a struggling pitcher on an expiring contract.

While it’s not a trade many would’ve expected to see come together today, there’s some sense to it for both sides. The Mets are plugging a hole in their rotation with a veteran arm who’ll practically be free from a financial standpoint, while the Rays are turning to younger options on the starting staff and acquiring a super-utility lottery ticket while dealing from a position of depth.

MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo first reported (via Twitter) that the two sides had engaged in discussions regarding Hill. Fansided’s Robert Murray reported that a deal was close. Jon Heyman of MLB Network first reported an agreement had been reached. Joel Sherman of the New York Post reported the other players involved in the deal (Twitter links).

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  1. ukhalo

    4 years ago

    Which soon to be 100mph relief pitcher are the Mets giving up in return?

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    • sfes

      4 years ago

      Tommy Hunter?

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      • BovineCrab

        4 years ago

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        • Stevil

          4 years ago

          “What up!? We’re three cool guys looking for other cool guys who want to hang out in our party mansion–NOTHING SEXUAL. Dudes in good shape encouraged…”

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        • Cosmo2

          4 years ago

          What is your brochure shaped like?

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    • Francys01

      4 years ago

      This is when I say why did the Rays traded Hill? I don’t get it. Do they want to reduce their payroll. Come on, Hill has pitch well this season for them. It’s difficult to be a Rays fan, although I like the Rays but its difficult to follow them since they trade their players during the season and offseason. Why trade Hill and not try to add at least another starting pitcher. However, the Rays are great for a reason. They might acquire another starting pitcher on the way or in the upcoming days.

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      • sfes

        4 years ago

        I’m a Mets fan and when I saw the highlight I almost crapped myself wondering what they extorted from us

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        • Oldschoolandthemets1980

          4 years ago

          I’m thinking Oswalt or yancy Diaz

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        • tidybowlman

          4 years ago

          Yeah, it sounds too good to be true.

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      • Win Cor

        4 years ago

        They are not done yet.

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      • bucsfan0004

        4 years ago

        Have the Rays EVER traded a pitcher that has done well after leaving them? Yet teams keep trading for them. Best of luck to the Mets i guess

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        • chalk73

          4 years ago

          David Price had a pretty good run.

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        • chalk73

          4 years ago

          James Shields had a few good years as well.

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        • Adam Ev 2

          4 years ago

          I bet the White Sox wish they had hung up on Padres GM considering it costed the Sox some guy named Fernando Tatis Jr.

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        • mlb1225

          4 years ago

          Yeah, but nobody has had long, sustained success. Shields had 2 good seasons in KCR and then a sub-100 ERA+ from 2015 to 2018. Price pitched well down the stretch in 2014, as well 2015 as well. But he’s pitched more than 180 innings in a season just once since 2016, has been extremely inconsistent with both performance and injury, and is currently in a relief role for the Dodgers. Blake Snell could break that trend of pitchers only having 1-2 good seasons once leaving the Rays if he can turn things around.

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        • Gothamcityriddler

          4 years ago

          Only way Price is getting into the HOF is if he buys a ticket of admission. Ahahahaha!

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        • bigun

          4 years ago

          Wade Davis.

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        • David C

          4 years ago

          James Shields?

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        • DrDan75

          4 years ago

          Tatis hadn’t played a single professional game when Preller got him. Those kind of transactions are basically a crapshoot.

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        • Cosmo2

          4 years ago

          No way they could’ve known he’d be this good but trading a top prospect isn’t a crapshoot, it’s a calculated risk.

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        • User 4245925809

          4 years ago

          Speaking of Shields.. That goofball announcer they have and have had for years.. DeWayne Staats, used to call him “Big Game” James, but I always thought that should mean someone who would step up against the best and toughest competition, which Shields didn’t and failed to do with Tampa.

          Shields.. For a while at least had a miserable record vs both the NYY and Boston, especially on the road. Teams a guy so anointed with a logo like that should do well against. Shields struggles at Fenway got so bad at 1 point where Rays manager Maddon would skip his scheduled starts there.. Once again…

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        • Chicago Whales

          4 years ago

          Wade Davis was great until he got to Colorado. He was moved out of the rotation long before that though. But solid closer for a few years

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        • When it was a game.

          4 years ago

          If i may add to that traded a pitcher who has done well not for financial reasons.

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        • ABCD

          4 years ago

          One of the oldest jokes on this site.

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        • CoolKidJoeXBL

          4 years ago

          James Shields career shifted dramatically after he gave up that homer to Bartolo Colon. It literally ruined his career.

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        • raysdude7676

          4 years ago

          Even Blake Snell has an ERA around 5 this year. It’s amazing how players do great on the Rays and so often do terrible once they leave. Speaks volumes to their coaching and culture.

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      • Albert Belle's corked bat

        4 years ago

        “Difficultto be a Ray’s fan”?? Coming from a SL fan who knows nothing about the Rays, please welcome Shane Baz to the show!

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        • Francys01

          4 years ago

          Albert Belle’s corked bat- I know more about the Rays than you kid. In the American League the Texas Rangers and Rays are my favorite teams just for your information. Yes, the Cardinals are my favorite team, but I also like others teams too. I’m not obsessed with a team. You don’t know nothing about the Rays compare to me.

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        • Albert Belle's corked bat

          4 years ago

          @Francys01 Dumbass!

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        • neo

          4 years ago

          *chef’s kiss* this is an internet fight for the mlbtr hall of fame.

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        • Francys01

          4 years ago

          Albert Belle’s corked bat- You are so brilliant. You are wise kid. Congrats.

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        • YourDreamGM

          4 years ago

          @Francys01 You are not only clueless about baseball but seem to struggle with intelligence in general. “You don’t know nothing about the Rays compare to me.” “why did the Rays traded Hill?” “Hill has pitch well”

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      • The Natural

        4 years ago

        The Rays typically know exactly what they’re doing. Keep an eye on the prospect they received in the coming years.

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        • Todd Kemmerer

          4 years ago

          I honestly think it’s more than that, it’s not coincidence ppl fall off alot once leaving. Call me whatever, there has to be something else. Not sure if it sticky stuff, if it was teaching it would carryover. They can’t be perfect on getting ppl traded at the exact right time.

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      • luckyh

        4 years ago

        He’s going to get hurt. They already got the best of him. The Mets will get the rest of him. The Rays are smart.

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        • bigun

          4 years ago

          I don’t know if he will get hurt, but otherwise I agree with you. Rays have inventory to backfill, Hill has overachieved. Mets are desperate. Sell high, get a nice young player in return, give one of your other guys a shot. You’re right, it’s smart.

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      • phenomenalajs

        4 years ago

        This wasn’t a payroll reduction since Hill’s and Hunter’s contracts basically match. It’s basically a mid-level prospect for a rotation arm down the stretch.

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      • Prospectnvstr

        4 years ago

        Francys01: As it states in the article, Hill has struggled for his last 7 starts AND he’s on an expiring contract PLUS there’s other options within the roster. In addition to that they pick up a (4th rd pick fr last yr) super utility type of player who may or may not turn into something down the road. Nice under the radar deal for the Rays.

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      • YourDreamGM

        4 years ago

        @Francys01 You obviously don’t follow the rays like you claim. Hill was good, but not in the past month or so. He doesn’t look to have any role on a world series contender.

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        • Francys01

          4 years ago

          YourDreamGM- Only because a pitcher/ player struggles that doesn’t mean that he cannot bounce back. By the way, I don’t have to convince you that I know a lot about the Rays. You can believe what you want.

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        • YourDreamGM

          4 years ago

          @Francys01 No you don’t have to convince me. Your comment said plenty. You weren’t aware of Hill struggling. Not aware that minor league pitchers are ready. Not aware Archer is coming back.

          Your comments suggest that it’s not just the rays you don’t know anything about but baseball in general. You ask why trade hill and not aquire anyone else? Well 1 maybe they have internal options. And 2 the trade deadline hasn’t passed yet.

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        • Francys01

          4 years ago

          YourDreamGM-Man, whatever you say. Once again, I will not try to persuade you. It so easy to follow a team when you can’t watch all the games. Let me teach you something If you cannot watch all the games you can watch the highlights of the games in mlb.com, Quick Pitch or MLB App. You don’t have to thank me for that information. Not to brag or anything, but when you have the mlb.tv can you can watch any team except the local team/s and guess what I have it.

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        • Deadguy

          4 years ago

          Francys01 you don’t bounce back from not being able to use spider tack anymore…. Its like what happened to Manny Ramirez

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        • YourDreamGM

          4 years ago

          It so easy. I cannot help myself.

          Edit. I am so sorry. I didn’t know about the mlb tv thing. I just assumed you were some stupid fan boy that liked to talk crap when they didn’t know what they were talking about. My apologies.

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        • Francys01

          4 years ago

          YourDreamGM- It’s okay. Next time don’t make the same mistake. Lol.

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      • old man hub

        4 years ago

        This is because the Rays have 3 soft throwing lefties and 4 lefties overall on the active roster. They add a catcher who doesn’t need a spot on the 40 man. They save a tiny bit of cash AND they make room for Patino on the active AND create a slot on the 40. 11 pitchers still on the DL…gotta have space.

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      • Raysfan17

        4 years ago

        This might be some useful Rays information
        I hope this gives some possible insight from the Rays perspective

        Rich Hill season stats:
        Before June 12th (12 starts):
        3.05 ERA, 9.15 K/9, 2.90 BB/9

        June 12th and after (7 starts):
        5.40 ERA, 7.56 K/9, 4.32 BB/9

        His spin and velo has been been plummeting this season as well, TB may believe there isnt much left in the tank considering his age and injury history.

        So instead of losing Rich Hill for nothing if he continues on recent trend (5.83 xFIP over his last 6 starts – good luck #Mets), they get a few talents back in the trade. Matt Dyer may not seem like much return now, but he’s only R5 eligible in ’23, and has +versatility.

        #Rays Rich Hill deal takes
        1. #Rays win WS, gets a ring (don’t feel bad)
        2. 40 IP from his innings high since ’08 (135 IP), made him iffy for playoff time
        3. #Rays need spots for incoming players
        Imminent: Archer, McKay, Drake
        Later: Anderson, Glasnow
        Potentially: Baz

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        • Bobby boy

          4 years ago

          They weren’t concerned about losing Rich Hill. More about losing with Rich on the hill. He didn’t fit their plans short term. There are better internal options This way they can pack up the excess bullfrog into his duffel bag and lower their internal sunscreen expenses. Gotta give em credit. Brilliant move.

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      • smuzqwpdmx

        4 years ago

        Nobody is better than the Rays at judging when a player is in irreversible decline.

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      • icantstandyous

        4 years ago

        It’s because spider tack is now banned

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  2. bestlakersfan

    4 years ago

    Rays win, again.

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    • Samuel

      4 years ago

      Not surprising……

      The Rays said earlier in the year that the veteran starters – Hill, Wacha, and Archer were brought in to hold the fort until mid-season when McClanahan, Fleming, Patino, and others would be brought up and pitching more innings. If they know for sure that Glasnow is coming back, Wacha and/or Archer may be available for trade.

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  3. The Baseball Fan

    4 years ago

    Did not see that coming, but hey, the Rays know what they’re doing. Mistake number 1 is trading with them

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    • Gwynning

      4 years ago

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    • MetsFan22

      4 years ago

      We made a mistake for giving up dyer and tommy hunter? Lol

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      • tstats

        4 years ago

        Knowing the Rays, and Hill, yes.

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      • tidybowlman

        4 years ago

        ‍♂️ It doesn’t seem like it, but Rays do Rays stuff.

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    • csspackler

      4 years ago

      Padres did OK with Pham and Cronenworth.

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    • leefieux

      4 years ago

      The Pirates say “Hey, Rays…wanna steal, er ah deal?”

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      • downeysoft42

        4 years ago

        Not anymore now that cherringtons in town.

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    • neo

      4 years ago

      I’m fully expecting the Rays deployed an advanced inception that had the Mets thinking that acquiring Hill was their idea.

      Rays decided time was best to dump Hill for anything they could get.

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    • Putmeincoach12

      4 years ago

      I hope the Cards keep trading with the Rockies and never again trade with the Rays.

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    • Finlander

      4 years ago

      Think Twins and Rays are both ok with recent Cruz deal. Cruz maybe gets shot at playoffs, Rays needed that bat, and Twins get some AAA pitching depth. But yeah, in general buyer beware. They’re shrewd. Mets weren’t expecting a #3 starter. But you’d think they’ve noticed Hill’s statistical downslide lately.

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  4. Bob333

    4 years ago

    Good thing Phillies suck.Mutts get another suck pitcher

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    • Cosmo2

      4 years ago

      Ooooh, Bob

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    • davidk1979

      4 years ago

      Clown comment

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      • Prospectnvstr

        4 years ago

        david1979: Which commentor are you saying made the “clown comment” #Bob333 or #Cosmo2? I’m asking because I think BOTH of them seem VERY juvenile imho.

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  5. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    sounds very Rays

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  6. DocBB

    4 years ago

    “The Mets have reached a deal to acquire lefty Rich Hill in a trade with the Mets”. LMFAO…only the Mets!

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    • ExPatNYker

      4 years ago

      Heyman tweeting to fast or with his mouth full

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    • iamhector24

      4 years ago

      Only the Mets trade fringe prospects for pitching depth? Why are people on this site so dumb?

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      • lemonlyman

        4 years ago

        He was pointing out the typo. Mets trade with Mets. Still lame to point out a typo, but not for the reasons you suggested.

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  7. Ashotswell

    4 years ago

    The Mets agreed to acquire Rich Hill from the Mets? I knew the Mets could do at all but that’s quite talented what did they give themselves LOL had to read that a few times make sure I was reading that correctly

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    • Gwynning

      4 years ago

      In other news, the Mets have agreed to agree with themselves. Highlights at 11.

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  8. meckert

    4 years ago

    How will he injure himself in his first appearance?

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    • Ashotswell

      4 years ago

      Is there an option for tripping on the rosin bag

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      • Cosmo2

        4 years ago

        Could pull a Doc Ellis and trip on something else.

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        • tstats

          4 years ago

          I LOVE DOC ELLIS

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        • Diatribefan

          4 years ago

          Dooood

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    • Dutch Vander Linde

      4 years ago

      My bet is on back soreness.

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    • BrewersMVP08

      4 years ago

      Removed from the game for going doo-doo in his undies

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      • meckert

        4 years ago

        He’ll throw his back out picking up his suitcase at LaGuardia.

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      • neo

        4 years ago

        nah, ejected from game for using his doo-doo as a foreign substance

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        • sfes

          4 years ago

          Hell probably just hold the ball and throw the doo doo

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        • Cosmo2

          4 years ago

          Well, if they sign GG Allin we’ll know where they’re going with this

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        • brickhaus

          4 years ago

          They’re assembling The Bad Breath Bears

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    • Ya'll a bunch of salty crybabies

      4 years ago

      Blisters fo sho!

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  9. BrewersMVP08

    4 years ago

    He’s as old as Joe Biden but he’s still a really solid arm. Idk how he does it

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    • Rsox

      4 years ago

      Throwing over 100 innings four times (should be five as he only has to survive five innings in his next start) in 17 seasons will keep the arm fresh

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  10. mlb1225

    4 years ago

    It’s the Tampa Bay Rays. I stopped questioning their methods long ago.

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    • MetsFan22

      4 years ago

      They got nothing for a sp having a good year.

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      • Noel1982

        4 years ago

        No more like nothing gained nothing lost

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        • Noel1982

          4 years ago

          He’s a averaged 4 and a half innings since the pitching rules change ! It was nothing for nothing

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      • seamaholic 2

        4 years ago

        It’s only a good year if you ignore his last couple months, and if you ignore his propensity to run out of gas right about now, and the fact that he’s 41. Rays wouldn’t have used him rest of the way, particularly if they acquire a different starter shortly, which they will.

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      • mlb1225

        4 years ago

        The Rays will find a way to turn nothing into something. If there’s a way, the Rays will find it. The Double-A player will turn into an all-star, and/or Hunter will come off the IL and give the Rays some Mariano Rivera-like post season performance.

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        • MetsFan22

          4 years ago

          Lol good luck with turning dyer into anything special

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        • mlb1225

          4 years ago

          If any team can do it, then it’s the Rays.

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        • SonnySteele

          4 years ago

          The Rays have been doing so much with so little for so long that they are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

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        • MetsFan22

          4 years ago

          That’s not true. Rays were suppose to get Wacha to be good… it doesn’t work like that. Rays are a very smart organization so it’s more likely to find good players than other organizations but they are going to turn dyer into anything unless dyer himself turns himself around. By the way. If it’s anyteam it’s the dodgers.

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        • Metsfan9

          4 years ago

          Dude your bias is ridiculous. Hill is having a terrible year and Dyer isn’t nothing he’s a pretty good prospect

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        • Joe It All

          4 years ago

          His assessments come from name value even when it’s a player past his prime or a heralded one who never found their prime.

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        • Blackie

          4 years ago

          Rich Hill MLB American League Pitcher of the month May 2021

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        • old man hub

          4 years ago

          Rays deal in volume. Most of there moves are even to bad, they draft like crap, but they keep at it and hit just enough.

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        • SalaryCapMyth

          4 years ago

          MetsFan22 accusing someone of bias. That’s Rich. >=}

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        • stymeedone

          4 years ago

          Its not May anymore!

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        • brickhaus

          4 years ago

          Eh, the Rays have a VERY long history of not being able to turn catching prospects into viable major leaguers. Probably the most successful catcher prospects they’ve had are Omar Narvaez, Stephen Vogt and Robinson Chirinos, none of whom did anything for the Rays. Toby Hall is still the best home grown catcher in Rays history.

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      • tstats

        4 years ago

        He’s been lit up lately after the sticky stuff was unstuck

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      • Sideline Redwine

        4 years ago

        He had a great month. And it was a truly great month. But otherwise, not much going on…but I am still surprised. He is the most solid and consistent starter the Rays have this year (after Glas went down)…which says something.

        How are the Rays doing so well with such mediocre starting pitching???

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        • Samuel

          4 years ago

          Rays don’t use starters as other teams do. Oftentimes they just want 3-4 innings out of them and will even use an opener from the bullpen to pitch the first inning or two.

          The Rays are interested in winning the game, not concerned with leading after 5 or 6 innings. Last nights game against the Indians was typical – and they beat a terrific bullpen.

          The Rays thinking and strategies are light years ahead of any other MLB organization. As I noted above, they said in April that the plan was to have veteran starters hold the fort until young pitchers were brought up during the season. This move was the latest in a series designed to have the Rays in position to not only make the playoffs, but get to and win the WS. The strategy was put in place before the season began.

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        • Doug Anderson

          4 years ago

          I get to watch the Rays every day and I honestly don’t know how they do it. McClanahan has been solid but unspectacular. Fleming has high school stuff but usually gives them 4 to 5 good innings. Yarbrough is pretty damn mediocre. Their offense this year is much better than people think (they’ve scored 3 fewer runs than Toronto). It may just be possible that all their analytics have found a way to measure the mythical intangibles…. OK, that’s most mostly B.S. I just know they’re fun towatch.

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      • willclarkgriswold

        4 years ago

        Dyer will become a perennial All Star

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        • Blackie

          4 years ago

          In Double A

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  11. Scott Kliesen

    4 years ago

    Article needs editing. It says Mets made a trade with themselves in the opening sentence.

    As for trade itself, Mets fans can’t be too pleased considering Hill’s struggles this summer.

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  12. seamaholic 2

    4 years ago

    Generally a bad idea to acquire pitchers from the Rays. The only exception I can think of, strangely, was the worst front office in baseball, the Rockies, who stole German Marquez a few years ago.

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    • Ryan W

      4 years ago

      David Price was pretty good for the Tigers

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  13. baines03

    4 years ago

    Mets trade for a guy that relies on the sticky stuff… very Mets.

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  14. metsie1

    4 years ago

    First he’s better than “TBA” and Second he’s probably starting Sunday or Monday. They had no announced starters for this 3 games. (DH Monday) Not exciting but a move that needed to be made, literally.

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    • tidybowlman

      4 years ago

      TBA has thrown some good games for us. haha

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  15. Richard Alicea

    4 years ago

    He’s the equivalent of Oliver Perez at 50…

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  16. Rsox

    4 years ago

    This sort of seems like one step forward, two steps back. Why trade for a slugger and then trade a starter? Are the Rays that confident that Glasnow and Archer will return and be effective.

    On the flip side this is the first time in years that Hill has been healthy so i expect him to injure himself buttoning his Mets jersey as has been their luck this season

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    • Noel1982

      4 years ago

      He’s averaged 4 and a half innings the last 5 weeks , he might be done ! His curve doesn’t curve so much anymore , his breaking ball doesn’t break much anymore and his slider doesn’t slide ! All he seems to have left is the Kenny powers heater

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      • tstats

        4 years ago

        Why say breaking ball when you are mentioning the curve and slider… his two breaking balls…

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        • newpony13

          4 years ago

          He’s just breaking his balls, lighten up!

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      • johnrealtime

        4 years ago

        He might be done? The takes on this site are wild. He has pitched well, he may not have the stuff that he used to but he is finding new ways to get guys out. And the 4.5 innings is just a case of the Rays being the Rays. Pulling guys early is their thing

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    • bobtillman

      4 years ago

      I watched Archer on milb.tv last night….seemed pretty sharp. The slider was sliding. Needs to build up innings, but the stuff (what there was) is still there. I’m sure that factors into the equation.

      It all depends who the AA guy is. Hunter is obviously flotsam, but I think he was with the Rays before.

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      • brickhaus

        4 years ago

        It also opens a spot in the rotation for Patino, who is probably an upgrade over Hill right now.

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  17. Oldschoolandthemets1980

    4 years ago

    The mets want pitchers who will give them innings. Then they go out and trade for mr il himself Hill ooh geez. Who’s next Bartolo Colon.

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    • extreme113

      4 years ago

      When are they gonna give Tropeano a shot as a SP?

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      • Metsfan9

        4 years ago

        Tropeano got lit up like a Christmas tree by the Pirates. No thanks we don’t need another bum AAAA pitcher starting games

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  18. Bill M

    4 years ago

    Not exactly the most attractive name that’s been mentioned as a possible starter for the Mets but he’s actually having a decent season. Of course, this is a 2 month rental because he’s about a hundred years old and will likely pass out on the way to the mound in the near future.

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  19. tidybowlman

    4 years ago

    What’s the catch? The Rays don’t make crazy trades and this seems… strange.

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  20. yandymania

    4 years ago

    Bad look 24 hours for the cheating rays. Acquire a known juicer and then jettison an aging verteran who specifically signed for peanuts with your club to win a world series

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    • iverbure

      4 years ago

      How do the rays cheat?

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      • yandymania

        4 years ago

        read slower

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        • iverbure

          4 years ago

          Oh imbecile I see. Cheating rays. So every team cheats. Every team has either signed or traded for a ped user in the past. Every pitcher in the league used illegal substances just this year. Welcome to reality.

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    • smuzqwpdmx

      4 years ago

      There’s one roster spot reserved for cheaters. By adding a steroid user, they had to trade foreign-substance-abuser Hill.

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  21. Juan Uribe Profundo

    4 years ago

    Much respect to Rich Hill for being a player teams want to trade for at an age when most guys are retired.

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    • Blackie

      4 years ago

      Hill wanted to play close to his Boston home with the Red Sox, Yankees or Mets before the Rays signed him. Good for Hill I hope he continues pitching well.

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  22. alwaysgo4two

    4 years ago

    So Two Towel Tom returns to the Rays….which was his player weekend name a few years ago. Watching Hill pitch was beginning to get scary anyway.

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  23. SonnySteele

    4 years ago

    The Rays have been doing so much with so little for so long that they are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

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  24. Rangers29

    4 years ago

    You know you’re a smart organization when even the “stupid” moves you make seem to not get questioned.

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  25. Turd McKenzie

    4 years ago

    Rays will probably flip Hunter and the Double A kid to Rockies and get Marquez or send them to Minnesota for Berrios.

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    • rocky7

      4 years ago

      Don’ think even the Rockies or Twins are that dumb…..

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      • Mrsuntan

        4 years ago

        But there is always the Pirates

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  26. BartoloHRball

    4 years ago

    It could be win/win for both clubs. Salaries are a wash and dyer as a throw-in, fine. Hill’s last half dozen starts are concerning, but if he can turn it around….good for the Mets. Hunter didn’t have a place to contribute this year, so it’s worth rolling the dice w Hill. Hefner and McCann have improved the Mets’ staff, maybe they can help Hill.

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    • phenomenalajs

      4 years ago

      I agree. People here are trying to read too much into this. Both teams are expecting to have starters return from long term injuries. The Mets may be waiting longer to get Cookie and Thor back than the Rays will have to wait for Glasnow and Archer. DeGrom may have to skip another start, so it’s perfectly reasonable to give Hill a shot. He can’t be any worse than Eickhoff has been (though I don’t blame him for the four errors behind him against the Reds).

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      • BartoloHRball

        4 years ago

        Exactly! The bar is to pitch better than Eickhoff, who has been cannon fodder most starts. They need to get thru the next few weeks and hopefully Cookie can ease back into the rotation. Hill knows how to pitch, so I’m hoping McCann can put together a good plan. Get 4-5 innings from him, and bridge w. a Gsellman-type. If the Mets can keep hitting, they hopefully can go .500 in his starts. Maghill has looked solid, but a team w only a 3-4 game lead can’t bet on a rookie w limited innings.

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  27. BaseballheadNY

    4 years ago

    Actually Dyer is at low-A. I saw him play last night. What’s the over/under on Hill hitting the IL?

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  28. Bob333

    4 years ago

    I forgot tommy hunter was even still in baseball oft injured pitcher for oft injured pitcher and Hill will make no more that 2 starts before he is DFA’D

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  29. citizen

    4 years ago

    Wacha over Rich Hill? Ouch. this is not 2015.

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  30. Sideline Redwine

    4 years ago

    What? I trust the Rays’ FO, but what??? He is as close as the team has to “an ace”, and his veteran leadership was important to a young pitching staff. Is there something more to the story??? My assumption is another trade is on the horizon…need starting pitchers…especially right-handed starters.

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    • BrewersMVP08

      4 years ago

      If you’re counting on rich hill to be your guy come playoff time that’s an issue.

      I learned to stop questioning anything the Rays do. They got this down to a tee

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      • BartoloHRball

        4 years ago

        The Rays continue to be one of the best run franchises in baseball. If they had a real payroll they’d be a 95+ win team most years. I watch a lot of AL ball (A’s, Rays, Indians, Royals) w MLB.TV and TB plays solid ball.

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        • therealryan

          4 years ago

          The Rays won 96 games in 2019, were on a 108 win pace in 2020 and are on a 98 win pace this year. They have a .609 winning percentage since the begining of the 2019 season, which is 99 wins per season. So it seems like the Rays do win 95+ most years.

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        • Sideline Redwine

          4 years ago

          Defense, pitching, timely hitting, hustle. I used to watch every game on extra innings, but still see plenty.

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    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      Hill’s been getting hit pretty hard since the league outlawed the sticky stuff. I wouldn’t be shocked if he continues to get hit. Or, from another perspective, they signed Hil for $2.5M, got a good half-season out of him, and then flipped him for an RP who might contribute, plus the NYMs 4th rounder from the 2020 draft.

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      • Sideline Redwine

        4 years ago

        He had that great month and that’s about it. After losing Glas, he was our most consistent guy (which is scary). My issue is that starting pitching is the Rays’ biggest problem right now, so even w age and recent issues…it’s kinda puzzling. (Especially after trading Ryan yesterday, as I felt he would be up and starting by now.) Is Hunter coming back? I guess we’ll see about the position player.

        But I like yr point. At the beginning of the year I said I’d be happy if we could get 100 solid innings from him…and here we are.

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  31. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    poverty franchise

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    • iverbure

      4 years ago

      Spending doesn’t equal winning. Rays have won more games in the last 5 years than how many teams? All teams that have won less games than the rays are poverty franchises and should be folded.

      This just in mlb is now a 6 team league??? What.

      More teams should be ran exactly like the rays. I would spend 10 million less than the rays do. It’s clear the less you spend the better the team plays.

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      • DarkSide830

        4 years ago

        and how many rings do they have?

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        • rct

          4 years ago

          Their fans (however many of them there are) have gotten to watch exciting meaningful baseball from opening day until the playoffs for the last decade. Very, very few teams get to say that. The OMG RINGZZZZZ argument is juvenile and reductive and overly broad. Rays are one the most successful franchises in sports. Personally, I would rather watch a team that is consistently good/great and always in the hunt than a team that wins a championship then is mediocre/bad for years.

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        • iverbure

          4 years ago

          Not to mention the playoffs are a complete crapshoot that non intelligent fans haven’t figured out yet. Fangraphs did a study on how much difference a 4 win player would make to a playoff team vs another playoff team in a 7 game series. The difference was so small the conclusion was it’s not even worth trading for that player basically. But you can’t tell that to guys like darkside when the only successful team every year is the one who wins lol.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          4 years ago

          @rct As a Phillies fan, I agree with this sentiment. The Phillies gave us great, meaningful baseball from 2007-2011. They got a ring in that time. Since then,they haven’t had 1 significant season. It’s been brutal. Rings are great, but there’s something to be said for just getting to the dance. Playiff baseball is all you can really ask for.

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  32. BuJoBi

    4 years ago

    You never know what the Rays will do from one day to the next. But they just seem to be a little smarter then the rest of us

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  33. Herc33

    4 years ago

    I saw from Joel Sherman on Twitter that Hill has a noticeable spin rate decrease since sticky stuff enforcement went into effect and his stats were noticeably worse during that time frame too.

    Seems like the Rays might have adjusted their assessment of him based on that and decided to sell

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    • bobtillman

      4 years ago

      Ya, Hill has been less than scintillating lately, and the Rays are in a position where every day counts. And I never buy this “positive clubhouse” stuff. Everybody raved about Adrian Gonzales’ “presence” when the Red Sox got him. Turns out everybody hated the guy and held a party when they traded him.

      Depends on Adams, whose hit tool is questionable. But he’s athletic, they don’t have much for catching, and they do manage to put players into situations where they can succeed.

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    • Sideline Redwine

      4 years ago

      Solid point.

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  34. Larry David's Joe Pepitone Jersey

    4 years ago

    Even somebody who can go out and throw 4 garbage innings instead of 1 is an upgrade for the Mets right now. I doubt he’s the only SP they’ll pick up in the next week.

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    • MatthewLVT17

      4 years ago

      Exactly. The Mets got a solid veteran back end starter for exactly zero decent trade chips.

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    • rct

      4 years ago

      Yeah, that’s my feeling as well. Both teams got what they wanted. Rays wanted to unload an aging but established starter who has been struggling lately and the Mets need a live arm to give them some non-embarrasing innings. This isn’t a big move but it satisfies both team’s immediate needs.

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  35. davidk1979

    4 years ago

    Surprising trade but the Mets need arms now and the Rays have lot of young starters and Hill has been struggling lately, I would not count Hill as an innings eater at this stage of his career. I would guess another starter might still be acquired and Hill could be moved to the pen in a few weeks.

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  36. Canosucks

    4 years ago

    Based upon his recent starts and age not looking to good for the Mets but at least they didn’t give up much although Hunter was effective briefly before he got hurt.

    The sticky stuff trend is most concerning

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  37. Joe It All

    4 years ago

    He has already thrown 95 innings this year so I’m inclined to think the Rays know they got his best stuff and he will decline down the stretch. 95 innings isn’t an earth shattering amount but Hill is 41 and it’s hard to question the Rays when it comes to trades. They generally come out smelling like a rose.

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    • Oxford Karma

      4 years ago

      He has made 19 starts. Hasn’t made more than 25 in 14 years. 14. The Rays probably decided at the beginning of the year if they got 15 starts and 75 innings they were happy.

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  38. the kutch

    4 years ago

    I think the Rays are the baseball equivalent of David Bowie…Never stay the same, always looking forward…Bowie would put out an album and I’d listen a couple times and think “this is crap”…pull it out later, and think “okay, I just had to catch up”…It was said once , where Bowie is today, is where we’ll be in 3 years…Ladies and Gentlemen, your Tampa Bay Rays….Always ahead of the rest of us…

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    • Sideline Redwine

      4 years ago

      Huh. I listen to a lot of Bowie and simply think it is dated. China Girl? Never let me down? Low? Yuk. He made some great music, but he had his share of junk. It’s funny, I consider him to be one who often went with the flow…goodness knows he ruined not only some of his stuff, but that of others as well e.g. Iggy). Imagine how much better Heroes would be w gtrs instead of synth.

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      • Oxford Karma

        4 years ago

        You have a lot of negative Bowie critique for someone who listened to him a lot. Everybody who has that many albums has a couple clunkers. Not a big fan of heroes either though, so maybe you’re into something.

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      • the kutch

        4 years ago

        The albums you’re referencing are 40 ish years old, of course they sound dated today…he never “went” with the flow, he created his own flow…much the way I see the Rays creating their own flow, and if you don’t get it, so be it…they obviously know exactly what they’re doing…

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  39. alwaysgo4two

    4 years ago

    Reading the comments it’s impressive how much cred the Rays have built up over the past several years. They trade for you then prepare for 2 things. You’ll have a better year, then you’ll be gone and although you’ll be paid, you’ll rarely get back to that level.

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  40. tbfern

    4 years ago

    This definitely means we’re getting a starter. Idc anymore about what prospects we get in these trades b/c we develop most of them to be great or at least competent enough to compete. We need to win NOW. Getting Cruz, and another frontline starter like Gibson, Berrios, or maybe even Morton again…loving our chances down the stretch.

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    • Sideline Redwine

      4 years ago

      Morton would be ideal, but heck–I may be a buyer in the NL east! Even the Marlins are not out of it!

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      • Bobby boy

        4 years ago

        You’re right, the Marlins are still in the NL East

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      • tbfern

        4 years ago

        This is true! But If I’m the Braves I would call it a wrap on the season being that they haven’t gotten over .500 for most of the season, and sell some of the fringe players like Morton or Smyly and get what you can for next year and beyond. If we’re talking NL East I wouldnt mind stealing Mad Max from the Nats!

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  41. Cohn Joppolella

    4 years ago

    Interesting, did not see this coming at all (but then again I rarely do).

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  42. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    4 years ago

    Love that trades are starting to roll in, significant ones, too.

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  43. Albert Belle's corked bat

    4 years ago

    With the Ray’s track record, I wonder if they can #FreeBritney

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    • mlbnyyfan

      4 years ago

      It’s obvious I’m not a Mets fan but IMO this doesn’t move the needle at all. The Mets need to put all the chips on the table and go all in this year. New ownership a new regime. Show all of MLB you mean business and the COJONES to make a bold move and try and take over NY like the Nets. Call the Cubs and empty the farm and trade for Bryant, Hendricks and Kimbrel. On other note great trade by the Rays basically trading Hill contract for Cruz.

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      • MatthewLVT17

        4 years ago

        Depth moves the needle when fighting for a division crown. But you’re right to say this can’t be all the Mets do

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        • Flyby

          4 years ago

          its probably not all they do but hill hopefully eats innings saving the bullpen from having multiple bullpen games. Coming off a 1/3 season and expecting these guys to have gas down the stretch with this much use is a bigger deal than having the potential of a reliever back in september at earliest if ever for the season or a catcher that is probably 4 years from the mlb if ever. sub 200 avg in A ball at 21 is not a great sign.

          Remember the mets are hopefully getting back 2 top of the rotation guys and hill would then become your swing man or piggy back to save some bullpen. Im thinking there will be rust for carrasco for sure and hope thor rebounds quick (alot to ask i know) or becomes the swing man / piggy back with hill to just suck up innings.

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      • rct

        4 years ago

        This moves the needle a little because the Mets have been running out AAA pitchers and relievers to start games for them. If Hill can give them 5-7 starts down the stretch and keep them in those games, it’s a win for them.

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      • Cosmo2

        4 years ago

        It’s not meant to move the needle. They were in a spot where they might not have anyone to start a game. They’re already using bullpen games and have add most had to do that back to back which really can’t work. I don’t want them to make any big trades. This serves a definite purpose.

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  44. Chisox

    4 years ago

    He has 95IP? That leaves what 25 more IP. Bet TB gets more innings from hunter

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    • rct

      4 years ago

      Hunter is on the 60 day IL and news from a few days ago regarding his injury were not good. I would be surprised to see him before September if at all this season.

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  45. VonPurpleHayes

    4 years ago

    This is one of those solid for both teams. Hill will do well in Citifield, a pitcher’s haven. A veteran who can eat innings while the Mets staff gets healthy. Hunter is a serviceable reliever. Dyer seems like minor league depth.

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  46. bobtillman

    4 years ago

    The Rays will probably get more from Archer than they would have from Hill at this point.

    Have to think other teams feel the same about Hill. Adams wasn’t even a “ranked” Mets prospect, in a system that’s strong on top. and pretty ugly after you get past #10.

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    • bobtillman

      4 years ago

      duh…Dyer I mean…

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    • king beas

      4 years ago

      Definitely a top heavy system but also a system where tylor megill was just ranked in the 20s and has a sub 3 mlb era so far so I do think it’s a solid system to nab players from

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    • nyy17 2

      4 years ago

      I always got more out of watching Archer than Hank Hill, so I see your point

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  47. nyr2k2

    4 years ago

    The Mets desperately needed a depth arm for the rotation. Hill has been having a tough go of it, sure, but I’ll still take him over Stock or Eickhoff or whoever we had lined up next. Worley or whatever.

    Dyer is sort of interesting but he’s still several years away if he ever hits enough to really make it. I mean the Rays are a great player development org but you still gotta think Dyer, 23 at Low-A hitting .194 with a ton of strikeouts, is still a longshot. If he makes it, great for him and the Rays,

    Seems like the return was reasonable for TB, though I’m not sure why they wanted to move on from Hill.

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    • YourDreamGM

      4 years ago

      Hill declining. Young arms, Archer, and whoever the aquire this week are better options going forward.

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  48. User 355748524

    4 years ago

    “average sped”

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  49. johnnieleeboo

    4 years ago

    Last night I saw Amir Garrett is getting whacked around. That’s the kind of guy the Rays pick up and overnight he’s a monster.
    Particularly the way he’s going recently, Hill might do OK against mediocre opposition, but I don’t thing good hitters–(cough)postseason–would be impressed.
    Pitino pitched pretty well last night, tho the Rays broadcasters think he’s tipping his pickoff move. Maybe he’s to get more starts.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      The Mets didn’t get him for the postseason. They got him to eat innings because their staff is depleted with injury.

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    • Sideline Redwine

      4 years ago

      I liked Patino’s work last night too, but he needs an offspeed pitch. His fastball and slider are solid, but big league hitters can figure out two pitches. I really hope he can stay in rotation, but he needs to expand his arsenal or he is a relief pitcher. A darn good one, though.

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  50. dirkg

    4 years ago

    The take away here is that the Rays saw that Rich Hill is a completely different pitcher post substance crackdown.

    It’ll be interesting to see if this is a trend across the league – similar to how steroid power hitters could no longer find jobs.

    Extra interest here in that the Rays pivoted mid season during a pennant race. Quite surprising actually.

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  51. Dorothy_Mantooth

    4 years ago

    The Rays must have a rule that they can only have one, 41 year old player on the roster at one time. Enter Cruz, exit Hill. The prospect they are getting back is not overly exciting so they must have some sort of issue with Hill, other than his numbers of late. Hill is a crafty veteran and he’ll figure out his issues in NY, even if it requires a 10 day visit to the IL. I’m surprised the Rays didn’t just move him to a long man in the bullpen if they didn’t like his starts. Wacha is not much better!

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    • Sideline Redwine

      4 years ago

      Wacha needs to go. NOW.

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    • Bobby boy

      4 years ago

      The roster spot was more value than Hill

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      • brickhaus

        4 years ago

        No, Hill just was tradeable. Wacha is even disappointing Fozzie Bear.

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    • nyy17 2

      4 years ago

      Quite a saintly post, Dorothy

      It is interesting what goes into the minds of teams. It seemed in the 80’s that the Red Sox were mandated to have a player with a name ending in ett at all times. Barrett, then Burkett then Beckett.

      I remember Bobby Cox seemed to have it in his contract to have a player whose name that contained anco on his roster – Franco, Francouer, Polanco, Blanco. Quite disturbing

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  52. raysdude7676

    4 years ago

    Hill was struggling lately. I’m surprised we could get anything for him. Hunter is solid, but too bad he may not come back this year.

    Baz has been great in AAA. He might add some depth for September. Still amazing he was just the PTBNL in the Archer trade.

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  53. EasternLeagueVeteran

    4 years ago

    The mets must not have liked what they saw out of Madison Bumgarner the other day ( his 2nd start back from the IL) or couldnt come together on $$ nor prospects. Interesting trade. The Mets will definitely see if Hill has anything left in the tank, and soon.

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    • whynot 2

      4 years ago

      Hill’s experience alone should make him a better option than the likes of Stock and Oswalt. Also the move to a pitchers park and the NL may help.

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      • Chief Two Hands

        4 years ago

        If nothing else, we will get to see him swing a bat again. That’s always amusing. Even Hill seemed to have a sense of humor about it when he was with the Dodgers.

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    • Ryan W

      4 years ago

      Bumgarner’s contract is negative value for his production these days. Couldn’t imagine anyone even wants to be stuck with him through 2024. He’s a flyer guy right now if the Dbacks didn’t have to pay him

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    • Cosmo2

      4 years ago

      Arizona would have to eat all of MadBum’s salary to make it worthwhile. Hes barely worth the league minimum right now.

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  54. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    4 years ago

    It’s amazing how much of a journeyman Rich Hill has become. And he’s still be a very good pitcher for a long time

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  55. LordD99

    4 years ago

    Smart pickup by the Rays. They get a decent catching prospect while also jettisoning Hill, who is not a quality starter without the sticky stuff.

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  56. nyy17 2

    4 years ago

    I bet the Rays think he’s over the Hill but I still think they are going to rue McClanahan being in the rotation one of these days.

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    • alwaysgo4two

      4 years ago

      Hill has gone backwards since he won pitcher of the month for May. Mcclanahan is filthy, just needs to get settled.

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      • nyy17 2

        4 years ago

        I always found Blanche to be filthy too. Method acting at its best.

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    • Bill M

      4 years ago

      Nyy, I see what you did there

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    • alwaysgo4two

      4 years ago

      Dammit….I missed that the first time around. Good one….ya got me.

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  57. delete my account please

    4 years ago

    My take is that I had no idea Tommy Hunter was still collecting those sweet MLB checks.

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  58. MatthewLVT17

    4 years ago

    Depth moves the needle when fighting for a division crown. But you’re right to say this can’t be all the Mets do

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  59. aromaa

    4 years ago

    Yamamoto is rehabbing, not out for season at the moment.

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  60. Deleted Userrr

    4 years ago

    Interesting. I’ve learned not to second-guess any moves Erik Neander makes but Hill IS a quality starter. And trading a quality starter when you are in the middle of a playoff push would generally be considered inadvisable.

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  61. Oldschoolandthemets1980

    4 years ago

    With all respect to Hill,but I will be completely surprised if we even get anything over 30 innings the rest of the season from hill before he hits the il.

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    • mlbnyyfan

      4 years ago

      What prospects do the Mets have left if they want to go all in for Bryant/Hendricks or Gallo/Gibson.

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      • whynot 2

        4 years ago

        I guess you are implying they don’t have any prospects anyone else would want.

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      • Cosmo2

        4 years ago

        They have plenty top prospects in the lower levels. Definitely enough to get a deal done. Would be stupid to do so, though.

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      • Deleted_User

        4 years ago

        Allan? Baty? PCA? Ginn?

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    • Robrock30

      4 years ago

      Are you essentially saying that he is Over the Hill? LOL

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      • mlbnyyfan

        4 years ago

        Rich is closer to being Under a Hill then Over one.

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        • Android Dawesome

          4 years ago

          Wasn’t Underhill the name Frodo used at the Prancing Pony? Maybe he is the one that can carry the ring

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        • Cosmo2

          4 years ago

          Just charge the whole thing to the Underhill account

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  62. Dutch Vander Linde

    4 years ago

    Instead of fishing for salmon, they went ahead and got a goldfish.

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    • Deleted_User

      4 years ago

      Should have sprung for trout.

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  63. jessaumodesto

    4 years ago

    Did his struggles come at the same
    Time as “sticky stuff” started to get banned?

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  64. shibbynotdude

    4 years ago

    Dick Mountain spins a mean vasoline ball

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  65. dasit

    4 years ago

    rays needed to trade hill before his new “no foreign substance” baseline was firmly established

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  66. DodgerOK

    4 years ago

    Hope he doesn’t get blisters. That’s all we heard about when he was in LA.

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  67. mcdusty49

    4 years ago

    It’s Baz time

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  68. Buzz Saw

    4 years ago

    If you look at Hill’s # of starts from a few years ago, if he matches that it means he has about 5-6 starts left before he gets injured.

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  69. MarlinsFanBase

    4 years ago

    Assessment of trade:

    Rays will say nothing, while very likely winning another trade.

    Most of the rest of the world will say the Rays won the trade, which they very likely did as usual.

    Mets PR machine and fans will say they got another Ace. All we can do is congratulate Rich hill on, after so many years in MLB, being traded to the Mets will now have him labeled as an Ace.

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    • whynot 2

      4 years ago

      How are those Marlins doing? Are those moral victories still doing it for you?

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      • MarlinsFanBase

        4 years ago

        Doing fine. Remember, we’re in a no-lose season. We gain no matter what.

        Is 1986 still doing it for you?

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        • whynot 2

          4 years ago

          Yes

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    • Cosmo2

      4 years ago

      Nah. He a 6th starter. 90% of us know this. This is a step up from a waiver wire claim. Of course that 10%.. we’ll, we don’t talk about them.

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  70. jim stem

    4 years ago

    That’s one SP which creates insurance just in case they can’t score another arm. Still think they get another starter who might be under control beyond this year.

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  71. MarlinsFanBase

    4 years ago

    On an unrelated note, as of today, we’ve all got to campaign for the Mets to trade Syndergaard to Cleveland. Some of you know why.

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    • The Baseball Fan

      4 years ago

      The Mets are too dumb to do that lmao

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  72. LH

    4 years ago

    Thoughts and prayers Rich. Wishing the best for you and your family.

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  73. GarryHarris

    4 years ago

    The Rays are going for veteran Relievers these days

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  74. rudyrudnick

    4 years ago

    this is a good deal for the mets hill was great with the dodgers he can start and help in the bullpen too

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  75. SonnySteele

    4 years ago

    It’s interesting to note that Rich Hill played for 10 teams during his 17 years in MLB but was only traded twice. (From Oakland to the Dodgers in 2016, and now from Tampa Bay to NYM.) Every other time he changed teams he was released and granted free agency.

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  76. Painful itch

    4 years ago

    Now showing on Broadway, “Dick Mountain”

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  77. bradthebluefish

    4 years ago

    Tommy Hunter is a good bullpen arm. Would be a shame if he can’t come back at all this year.

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  78. brian214

    4 years ago

    As a Phillies fan I approve of this trade (although with that said Hill may be better than our 4/5 starters).

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  79. Ron Tingley

    4 years ago

    Looks like the Ray’s knew Hills grip and performance were going down after losing the sticky. Only making 2.5 million this year. Not saving a ton of money by dumping him. I’m sure tommys got to be making a million on his minor league deal as well.

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  80. Cora the Destroya

    4 years ago

    Rays know how to sign pitchers to low risk high reward deals then trade them off for improvements. Rich Hill is injury prone beyond reality so he just isn’t that much of a loss. Smartest managed team in MLB.

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