The Padres are taking a flier on Jake Arrieta, announcing a deal with the veteran right-hander this afternoon. While San Diego technically inked Arrieta to a minor league contract, the club announced they plan to formally select him to the big league roster on Wednesday, when he’ll get make his team debut with a start against the Rockies. San Diego already has a vacancy on the 40-man roster, so they won’t need to make a corresponding move in that regard unless they add somebody to the roster in the intervening two days. Arrieta is repped by the Boras Corporation.
San Diego suddenly finds itself desperate for innings — a scenario few would’ve anticipated after an offseason in which the Friars acquired Yu Darvish, Blake Snell and Joe Musgrove to strengthen a rotation that already looked to have a fair bit of depth. However, Darvish was placed on the injured list yesterday owing to back issues, and the Padres are also currently without Chris Paddack (oblique strain), Dinelson Lamet (forearm inflammation, hip surgery) and Adrian Morejon (Tommy John surgery). Touted prospect MacKenzie Gore hasn’t pitched in a game since June 13, as he was sent back to the team’s Spring Training complex to work on mechanical issues not long after.
Arrieta will give the Padres a veteran option to soak up some innings, but the extent of his struggles with the Cubs underscore the dire nature of the need for arms in San Diego at the moment. While Arrieta got out to a nice start after signing a one-year, $6.5MM deal to return to the Cubs, his production cratered after a handful of solid outings to begin the season.
Arrieta pitched to a 2.57 ERA through his first five starts but has since been shellacked for 58 runs in 58 1/3 innings. He completed six innings just one time in those 15 outings and completed five frames in just six of them. And while a few poor outings can always skew a few months’ worth of numbers, that isn’t necessarily the case here; Arrieta allowed at least four runs in 10 of those 15 starts. This year’s 90.8 mph average fastball is the lowest of his career and represents a two mile-per-hour drop from last year’s levels.
Of course, Arrieta was once one of the game’s best arms. He followed up a strong first half in 2015 with a historically dominant second half, cruising to a National League Cy Young Award and a sixth-place finish in NL MVP voting. He went on to throw a shutout in his postseason debut in 2015. That was followed by All-Star campaign in 2016, which featured 197 1/3 innings of 3.10 ERA ball, and Arrieta posted a 3.63 ERA in 22 1/3 postseason frames as the Cubs marched to a World Series victory. Broadly speaking, he was one of the primary drivers behind the Cubs’ transformation into a perennial contender during his initial run there.
That all feels like a distant memory after three lackluster years in Philadelphia, an elbow surgery, and this year’s unsuccessful Wrigley reunion. The Padres will hope a change of scenery can lead to some late-season lightning in a bottle, but the mounting number of rotation injuries has left their grip on the second NL Wild Card spot feeling more tenuous than ever. What was a six-game lead over the Reds as recently as July 27 has been whittled away to a 2.5-game lead over their closest competitors in Cincinnati.
Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic first reported the sides were close to a deal. Bob Nightengale of USA Today was first to report the Padres were among the teams with interest in Arrieta. Jon Heyman of MLB Network reported the sides had an agreement and that Arrieta would get the start on Wednesday. Image courtesy of USA Today Sports.
A great counter to the dodgers getting scherzer
Nearly identical stats!
Hey Padres, Aaron Sanchez is available he was released by the Giants.
Interested in middle relief
Arrieta’s WHIP since 2015:
2015 0.865
2016 1.084
2017 1.218
2018 1.286
2019 1.474
2020 1.511
2021 1.761
Does anyone notice a trend?
I’m not seeing it.
The years keep going up by 1?
Yes
Partial credit.
Whippet Good!
So…. his expected WHIP in 2027 is roughly 3.53???
Just look at bWAR, fWAR, and xFIP. WHIP is only mildly useful.
And to add some more context, here are his monthly WHIP totals for 2021.
April/March 1.309
May 1.525
June 1.985
July 2.824
August 2.750
Looks like his WHIP finally leveled out at 2.750
AD — I needed a quick and easy stat and everyone understands WHIP. Those other stats basically correspond to the point I was making.
bWAR and fWAR are counting stats – only mildly useful in this case. At least WHIP is a rate stat, which helps here
Oh! They were the years!?
Bartolo Colon is 6-2 with a 1.308 WHIP and. 4.55 ERA with Monclova in 2021. He may not throw aa hard as Arrieta, but his ball has way more movement, gives up way less long balls and he is averaging over 5 innings a start. Tell San Diego to send a Tijuana taxi to pick him up. I’d rather have him start Wednesday.
It looks like he keeps pitching each year.
That escalated quickly.
And WAR is useless.
Kazmir isnt pitching for Team USA anymore either.
Rothschild will square him away.
Kazmir is back with the giants AAA in sac pretty sure.
Kazmir is in the Giants minor league system
Sanchez is always hurt….. why would we take a flier on another hurt pitcher …..we already have 40 something pitchers on the DL
Thanks Larry Rothschild
I barely found out the homegirl is his cousin hahaha
Has Arrieta ever given up a grand slam to a reliever?
Give it time.
The Anti-Scherzer
You got jokes but if he would go to the bullpen he could be the next Dennis Eckersly ex Cubs must loss that EGO
theBare54 – yep, Arrietta should be in the bullpen. Perhaps a few spot starts. Then bullpen. It would be a good fit.
I’d take Jake Arrieta over a Cole Hamels signing.
hope you are ready for batting practice LA and SF!
This guy sucks so bad the Brewers made the Cubs release him
He should’ve been released 2 months ago. He’s been awful all year.
Dodgers already got their batting practice in off of Carrasco. Giants get him next series against the Mets at least
Brewers didn’t make them release him. he’s been awful since the first month of the season. Several terrible starts in a row coupled with him making an unnecessary comment at a reporter after his last start is what led to his release.
Milwaukee just dotted the exclamation point.
padres should make sure to get an updated size for his ring finger for once he leads them to a WS victory
Share some of that 420 you got – need my mind to be so altered I could believe this.
I think the Padres should get Jake drunk before every start ala David Wells. It might help loosen him up. Unless David’s still willing to pitch?
@Tipsy considering how bad he’s been this year, it’s not like he can really be much worse when drunk.
With Tatis back and the Padres signing Arrieta, i guess San Diego wants to win games 9-7.
Or lose 9 to 7. =)
They’re lucky they have a damn good bullpen because Arrieta typically gives up 7 runs in the first inning alone.
um, why?
to play shortstop since Tatis doesnt know how to
He plays short well, it was his throws earlier in the year. He throws too hard and is not always accurate.
He also forces the throw sometimes after making a tremendous play when there clearly isn’t a play at first.
He will get better with time.
Excuse me, but isn’t making the throw a big part of the equation for a SS? Like, you know, half the play?
The number of grown men jealous of a 22 year old is baffling. It’s pathetic.
23.5 mil a year. Why shouldn’t people be jealous? That’s only 6 months a year. 7 if they make the playoffs. Which likely comes with bonuses.
You don’t make $20 mil a year? What are you 12? Have fun being poor.
He enjoys being poor I’m assuming. Cubs fan from the urbanized sewer we know as “Chicago”. Everything checks out.
“Have fun staying poor”
That’s my line bro.
I’m pretty sure you have to own Bitcoin to say that.
Well, I qualify.
So: have fun staying poor.
Huh.
That wasn’t as much fun as you guys made it out to be.
It was Tatis’ idea to play the outfield for a while. His errors are mostly throwing errors. We tend to forget that he’s still a kid. Most don’t get to the bigs, if they do at all, until they are a little older than he is.
For the safety of Padre fans when Tatis makes a throw home from the outfield, it’s good all of those nets are in place.
Give it up. Tatis is a great player, but he makdes way too many Errors to be considered a good SS. He was approaching Franchy Cordero territory.
They’ve had 10 pitchers with season ending injuries and currently only have 3 healthy SP, so they’re desperate for multiple innings from anyone at this point.
What they have in AAA is surprisingly probably worse than Arrieta. I think Aaron Sanchez would have been the better call, but they had to get someone to soak up innings until Paddack and Darvish can come off the IL.
If they are desperate for multiple innings and “multiple” means about TWO—there is hope.
If Paddock and Darvish return
They were having bullpen games in April. In one 9 inning game, they used 10 pitchers.
This should have been fixed long before the trade deadline. Preller is an idiot.
Wanted to see what would happen first- LAD/SF fans gloating over how bad Jake is, or Shamrock fans complaining their FO didn’t sign him. LOL!!!
I’d fall back on the old “see what’s left in the tank”, but I think the tank is even rusted out
It might be a dunk tank at this point.
Jake was awful. Sorry to say but that’s a fact. He had absolutely nothing the last few outings. I watched his last start against Milwaukee. I actually felt like the Brewers were even showing some pity on the guy. It wasn’t pleasant to watch him pitch.
He’s had nothing the past few seasons.
At least the Padres aren’t paying him 75mil like the Phillies did for him to suck
Hey he was really great there for a start or two. Totally worth the investment.
Yeah, but health wise they’ve got tatis to worry about… that’s a long contract and he hasn’t been healthy again this season.
Almost reminds of ellsbury in Boston. When he played he was good, but he missed decent chunks of time. Not performance level, just ability to perform
Washed players are really benefiting more so than ever this season from MLB’s alarming rate of injuries.
Well, the available market is down to Tom Phoebis…….
WHERE IS BIG SEXY??????
Big Sexy was alright his last few seasons in MLB, but that’s it.
Big Sexy has started 11 games for Monclova in the Mexican League so far this year. He eats innings averaging over 5 1/3 innings per start, is 6-2 with a servicable 4.55 ERA and is his WHIP is 1.304. I would rather sign him than Jake Arrietta.
Besides, he likes hitting at Petco Park in SanDiego. That’s where he hit his blast for the Mets.
I hope you are kidding about great signing this guy is washed up he SUCKED with the Phillies and was even worse with the Cubs.The only reason he was good when he was
alot of talk about PEDS.So if he goes back on PEDS then you will be ok and Tom Phoebus was even better than this guy don’t insult him like that.
“A lot” is two words.
How many former Cy Young award winners does one team need to get the second wild card?
Reds have a better team simply
They wont even make the playoffs.
Milwaukeestrong:
The Reds don’t have a better team…but they do get to play the Cubs/Nats/Pirates/Tigers while the Padres play /Giants/Dodgers/Braves/Astros in Sept.
So yeah….Reds probably take the WC but not cause they’re better.
Dodgers have 5.
So that means there should be around 9 former Cy Youngs potentially on the NL Wild Card rosters this year, unless the Reds or Phillies or Mets track down the Pads. That is both fantastic and sad.
I remember getting ripped apart on here for my comments in the PRESEASON about the Padres making big moves a year or two too early! Yu Darvish is ALWAYS hurt when you need him most. Blake Snell is much more of a #3 starter than any type of #1 starter these days. Major injury questions with young pitchers like Gore. Aside from Tatis and Machado NOBODY in the lineup scares anybody. Now the farm system has lost a lot of talent and depth with little to show for it. Timing is everything. Padres shot their wad way too soon. Now they get to watch it all fall apart around Tatis. Any healthy young pitching in this entire organization????? How you winning without that?????
Preller regime keeps making those $ moves
They should have fired Preller after he made the Will Myers and Eric Hosmer deals. This guy has spent a lot of money with little results. Padres are definitely not Dodger killers! That looks like the Giants! Giants have ALOT of money coming off the books …… take notes Padres!
Very Barry. What’s the Padres record against the Dodgers this year? Can you remind me?
How many games behind the Dodgers are the Padres????? How many pitchers on the Injured List???? Tatis?? Nearly swept and definitely no-hit by the Diamondbacks. The Diamondbacks ….. Who cares about the head-to-head this year. Dodgers and Padres are headed in opposite directions right now. The Dodgers even stepped in and took Scherzer from the Padres at the deadline.
I’ll repeat the question mister question mark. What is the Padres record against the Dodgers this year? It’s a simple question.
Tipsy, are you autistic? Just want to make sure before I insult you.
Steve Nebraska. Once an a-hole, always an a-hole. Maybe it would help your widdle brain if I put “parody” in parentheses next to my name?
P.S. I liked you better in Passion of Darkly Noon. Maybe it’s time for a name change.
Thanks for clarifying. Carry on!
Tipsy….that’s irrelevant….Padres have sent alot of their farm out for mediocrity. They should be taking a step back and letting Tatis fully heal with surgery or whatever it takes. Taking a few games from a hurt team during the middle of the season means nothing. Dodgers are 100% monsters and your team should be worried on any potential matchup against them. I’m not even a Dodgers fan and can see that.
I’m cherry-picking. Of course, the Dodgers are the better team. But shouldn’t us Padres fans be allowed to gloat just a little bit especially when we know it really pains the Dodgers fans to have it mentioned? They blow up a little bit and it’s funny to watch.
BTW — The Padres are 7-3 against the Dodgers this year. That’s a .700 winning percentage. If they keep beating them at that clip, who knows?
Too soon to gloat about the Padres record vs the Dodgers. You’re basically saying they’re on pace for…, which is a never very enlightening.
The Giants lost their first 4 games against the Dodgers. Had LA kept “beating them at that clip”, it’s a season sweep. But head-to-head now they’re 8-8.
They were a sub .500 club in 2019. Let’s see where they end up this year.
They won’t be sub anything this year. If you’re referring to the Giants. They’ll be probably around 95 wins depending how they play these next 10 ballgames.
Believe me Tipsy…I’m good with the Dodgers getting it handed to them at any point, but that’s one tough club to beat especially if healthy.
@ Tipsy…. 7-3… big deal. How far back are the Padres? Better yet, how far ahead of Cincy, the Phills, and the Cards are the Padres these days?
Priorities Tipsy, priorities…
The wild card is just that. A play-in round where anything can happen. If the Padres
hold off the Reds, anything can happen. Not a time to act smug if you are a Dodgers fan and your team hasn’t won the division. You are facing a possible one and done scenario.
Very Barry….how is it too soon.
Literally everyone mot named Pham is back again next season.
With Paddack/Lamet/Clevinger back healthy and Morejon not long behind.
Paddack ain’t that good. I have heard all the hype, but saw little results other than him getting lit up ahead of getting hurt. I don’t think Lamet will ever be healthy enough to be a factor again. Clevinger might be ok, but far from a dominant starter. Morejon won’t be seen again for nearly 2 years. Not a lot to look forward to with the Padres pitching staff. Preller gonna open up the wallet and outbid everyone for Scherzer now????
I agree.
This year’s moves remind me of Preller trading Grandal and prospects for Matt Kemp.
Wil Myers for Trea Turner also looks very bad in retrospect.
The guy is great at building a farm system but they shouldn’t let him make trades.
The counterpoint to that is that he practically stole Jake Cronenworth and Trent Grisham from the Rays and Brewers respectively. Not trying to defend that Grandal trade, it’s indefensible, and he’s whiffed on some other ones as well, but he has hit on some really solid trades over the years too.
Biggest issue with him is the big contracts to guys like Hosmer/Myers. Paying those two a combined $40+M this year for one of them to be on the bench and the other to be league average is what stopped them from getting meaningful reinforcements at the deadline.
The Grandal, and Trea Turner trades were far worse, than the Cronenworth, and Grisham trades were, good.
It’s too soon to judge the Cronenworth trade, anyway. Edwards is still only 21, and yet to have any kind of viable stats.
And Lauer, and Urias are both having very good seasons in Milwaukee. That’s hardly comparable to the slam-dunk bad trades. BB Ref gives Lauer and Urias a combined 2.6 WAR, and Grisham a 2.9. That’s the kind of trade that is good for both teams.
@CNichols
True.
I like the Grisham trade because I’m a big fan of how Trent plays.
Darvish too.
He did trade away Luis Castillo for Colin Rea but after trading for Castillo a few days earlier.
His bad and good trades seem fairly even.
I think he’s a good GM overall though and like the team he’s put together.
Grandal was traded for personal/behavioral reasons. He didn’t fit in with the team and it was clear he wanted out.
Who says that Grandal “wanted out?” And since when do players have any say in that matter?
Either way, trading him for an overpaid clubhouse cancer like Matt Kemp was inexcusable. If they really wanted Grandal gone he should have either been traded for whatever prospect(s) Preller could get for him or if no one was offering anything just non-tender him.
Media and fans love trade and always think quantity = quality. Preller has destroyed the Padres window for a 3rd place team with a 3 year window.
I agree 100%
Not too soon. Just the wrong moves.
Other than a career year in 2018 Snell has been a mediocre starter with a 4+ ERA that can’t go 5 innings. Its not a surprise that he is keeping to his MO of 1 brilliant start and then 3-4 bad ones. Keeping a 21 year old starter with triple digit stuff was the right move.
I have no problem with trading for Darvish, but expecting ANY 34 year old to be your Ace is just asking for trouble. From 2017-2020 he had a 3.70 ERA and started 70% of his starts. Look familiar to his 2021 stats? Didn’t take a rockstar to see that one coming. Caratini was a good pickup, but there would have been no need to trade for him if they had not traded away both a MLB backup and a minor league depth in the Snell debacle of a trade. No brownie points for Preller there.
Musgrove is a solid #3 starter and he didn’t cost any top 100 prospects to acquire. That was a good move in my opinion.
Definitely agree he made the wrong moves.
One of the few times I agree with Koamalu
When did Snell up his game to #3 status? Looks like a mop up guy to me.
I gave out a lot of FREE money with picks BEFORE the season …… Here is some more FREE money to close it out ….. Bet against the Mets and Padres every chance you get down the stretch. Both are on the edges of falling out of contention and will soon lose interest in the season altogether …… and yes ….. keep betting against the Cubs EVERY night, They completely threw in the towel at the deadline. FREE MONEY
How are the Padres, who currently have a 2.5 game lead over the Reds for the second wild card spot, “on the edges of falling out of contention”?
I think it’s fair to say that you favor the Reds to pass them, but a team that currently possesses the wild card spot and that fangraphs gives a 56% chance to make the playoffs isn’t “falling out of contention”, they’re at the very least going to be in the race for that spot.
Did you watch the Diamondbacks series????????? Nothing short of embarrassing!!!! They just signed Jake Arrieta. Arrieta has NO ability to get Major League hitters out. This team is in free fall!! Is that the same “Fan Graphs” that had both the Red Sox and Giants no higher than 3rd in their respective divisions??? I gave everybody the Milwaukee Brewers to win the Central free of charge on here!!
Obviously you are the smartest person you know!!!!!!! You should give yourself a cookie!!!!!!!
a week ago the Padres had a 6 game lead on the Reds, it is now 2.5 games. Red should catch padres in the next week or two. Then it will be a fight to the end of the season. Who will win nobody knows, Reds have an easier schedule but you never know?
Arrieta had a 2.70 ERA in the last 3 1/3 innings of his last start. Smart for the Padres to sign him while he’s hot.
@Lee Hahahah. Well done.
But did he lead the club in 9th inning doubles in the month of August?
Yes, but only in home games his team already had the lead…
am I the only one to get the Mr. Baseball comment?!?
Whoa. I said he was on a hot streak. He didn’t have a whole good month like Jack Elliott.
Maybe we can sign Rick Porcello, Homer Bailey, Aníbal Sánchez, Mike Leake, and Félix Hernández? We just need two decent starts out of each of them.
Homer Bailey is kicking around with the A’s AAA team and would be an improvement. Aaron Sanchez is competent. There are 40-50 AAA pitchers who are going nowhere off a team’s 40 man that probably deserve an opportunity more than Arrieta.
@Tipsy McStagger
1. Why do you keep changing your username (and the team you claim to root for)?
2. A. J. Preller absolutely 110% would have still traded for Fernando Tatis Jr. had he not traded Trea Turner away.
Remove/Egon. What is with this grudge? It was three years ago. I’ve already apologized for hurting your feelings. Get counseling. Seek help. Why do you keep bringing it up? What would you like me to do? Should I highjack the airwaves and publicly apologize to you? I’ll do it if you want me to because I truly and deeply love you.
Remove/Egon. Just curious, but what does #2 have to do with anything in this post? It is about the Padres signing Arietta NOT trading for Tatis. Stay on topic.
@Tipsy McStagger…
1. I wanna know why you do it. What is it that you think you gain by doing it? Like, how do you process it?
2. A week or two ago you replied to me on another thread saying Preller wouldn’t have traded for Tatis if he hadn’t traded Trea Turner away first. Then you tried to go into hiding when I refuted that assertion. But I won’t let you do that.
Question. Is something wrong with you? I play along nicely (for the most part) but now I’m beginning to think I should just start ignoring you. This is reaching stalker level.
Deflect deflect deflect
Where have you gone Clay Kirby and Steve Arlin
Is Clemens still working out? And while we’re at it, don’t you think Johan Santana has probably healed by now? Time to give that man a hall of fame boost.
In future news, the Padres release Jake Arrieta.
Reason number 15 the Padres won’t make it to the NLDS
Just to play devils advocate, the Padres lack of pitching depth at this point probably makes them more dangerous in the wild card than they would be in the NLDS.
I think they have a better shot at beating LA in one game if Darvish or Musgrove shoves than beating them in 3 out of 5 since their rotation is so inconsistent. We already saw what happened last year when they tried a bullpen game in the NLDS.
So, in other words…a better shot at losing in the NLDS than in one Wild Card game.
wow, an awful starting pitcher whos older and gets lit up every outing, CHAIM BLOOM, you totally missed this one buddy!
2021 Jake Arrieta makes 2021 Andrew Heaney look like 2011 Verlander
Desperation…this is so sad. Preller should have had a backup deal with Cubs for old friend Davies at the deadline in case Berrios deal fell through. This proves Preller really screwed up (and I’m not a preller hater).
Wow. Might as well just sign one of those automated machines from a batting cage.
Do they want to be positive they are not going to the playoffs?
Cool. Hopefully a change or scenery helps. At home we may get some value, however small it is, out of him pitching at Petco. Coors and Arizona he should probably sit that one out, extra rest day.
What do they see in him? I know it’s San Diego so we should wait and see what their pitching minds think but I legitimately don’t see value in him anymore.
LOL! I actually feel bad for the Padres. Their entire pitching staff has been decimated by injuries. Look no further than signing Arrietta (who was cut by the Cubs) just to be able to run a starter out there this week. Looking at the Padres roster, they should be 7-8 starters deep; instead they have 2 healthy starters. It will be some feat if the Padres can hold on and make it to the post season. Unfortunately if they do, they’ll most likely face the Dodgers in the wildcard game so they are looking at a one and done scenario anyways. Looks like 2022 will have to be the year of the Padres. Even Jake from State Farm couldn’t save them this year.
Jamie Moyer isn’t doing anything. Maybe Padres should call him. Probably just as effective as Arietta at this point.
My heart aches for every loyal Padres fan.
If he can pitch as well as Paddack, which isn’t saying all that much, we’ll take it. But anything is possible. Look at what St. Louis has gotten from JA Happ.
Desperate, but not serious, your kisses drive…………me delirious.
Never ceases to amaze me. A guy who now is awful at his job…..can’t even pitch for a really bad club….still paid by that club….now pitches for a pennant contender. That’ll teach him. Be awful and end up in a better spot.
For like 5 minutes man…….Jake ain’t long for SD, or baseball for that matter. They aren’t really a pennant contender either. 10 games out in Mid-August, chasing the much better Dodgers & Giants? They can do their best to try and hang on to that slim 2nd wild card spot, but this isn’t a championship squad by any stretch. Too many injuries, terrible contracts, under-achievers……….
Dang, if they just had someone like Cal Quantril or Eric Lauer to fill out the rotation.
You know, a cheap controllable young guy you waited on for years while your team sucked.
#thatprellerisagenius
Oh yea. Where are Quantrill and Lauer at right now?
Quantrill has a 3.10 ERA over 100 innings and Lauer is better than any lefty in the SD rotation.
Of course this is all after they went to work with coaching staffs that can actually develop talent so……..?
Lol, Quantrill has been great this year, and Lauer has a 3.44 ERA with 73K in 73 IP. Nice try Shortboarder.
LMAO and some Padres fans defend the Clevinger trade because the Padres dumped Hedges in the trade then when you point out that Hedges was still in arb at the time so the Padres could have have just non-tendered him if he was really a problem those same Padres fans go into hiding.
baseball-reference.com/players/q/quantca01.shtml
That one hurts
It isn’t just that one. It’s virtually all the trades. He’s lost virtually every trade. A few of them look bad fairly quickly. Many of them will look bad in a few years.
I remember the Padre fans literally dancing in the streets after they traded Lauer & Urias. And, right now, Lauer would be your #2 and Urias might be your SS.
As an Atlanta fan, I know how San Diego feels. We are willing to offer you both Kyle Wright and Sean Newcomb.
I know Arrietta doesn’t cost anything but I can’t believe the Padres don’t have some AAAA filler to bring up instead. Also , for a team at the beginning of their window this is an incredibly expensive team.
Unless Camarena is hurt, just bring him up. El Paso is a bad place to pitch and his numbers are fine.
We have a lot of guys in the minors that I would have tried before signinv Arieta. He’s done.
What are the Padres supposed to do? Stand pat? There’s not a lot of options. I hope Arrieta surprised everybody, especially you 3rd baseline wanna be’s. Go Padres
Fire Preller. That’s what they should do.
How many times does he get to trade the farm and overpay for mediocre players?
Guess Seidler is one of this Mr Positive owner would rather watch amateur GM waste $ for little results. Seidler gave Preller extension this off season like there was big market for him
LOL exactly. Why do you need to give him an extension? The entire team is made up of guys they got because ownership was willing to pony up, nothing todo with Preller.
Brain dead GM Preller traded Quantrill he wouldn’t be useful now lol
In other news Padres sign Curt Schilling as pitching coach.
What happen to Gore ? now I have concerns.
Padres development department got a hold of him.
Blisters. They caused control problems. He spent a couple of months on the IL because of them and then some time in Peoria. He is supposed to be with El Paso now, but not sure when he will pitch.
It’s been 20+ years since he was Vice President. I’m sure he’s doing fine since we don’t hear his name much.
Wild Card is locked up by the Friars folks. Save your energy on the Ish talking. Regardless of this slump we are “Still in”…..EAT IT!
Just out of curiosity, without looking, do you know how far ahead the SDP are in front of the Reds & Cards? While games can be random, SDP has the look of the Mets a few weeks back, where they were ahead, but look like underdogs.
42 games left, and 22 are against teams that are ~ .600 or better. 13 are against teams ~ .500 or better. Only 6 games against bad teams. You’ve been below .500 since the end of June.
Since the end of June, the Reds have been 25-15. At the rate you’re going, you are going to lose big. What are you expecting to turn around?
Could somebody please save this hot take for reevaluation in October ?
You might want to look at how easy the Reds remaining schedule is compared to what the Padres have left. Your Pads still have 19 games left with the Giants and Dodgers and only one series with one of the MLB bottom feeders. That wild card lead is going to be 1 1/2 games before the night is over. You’re setting yourself up for major disappointment.
Padres need someone to take the ball every fifth day until Darvish/Snell/Paddack are back. If Arrieta can give them five innings per start they’ll take it. The Padres play in a bigger ballpark, have a better offense, and are far better defensively than the Cubs. You never know, a playoff race could be the thing that gets Arrieta going
Thats true Rsox. Good point here.
“San Diego suddenly finds itself desperate for innings…”
If you’re giving Arrieta a start in August of 2021, then yes, it’s obvious you’re desperate for innings.
Hard to believe his ERA could get worse but here we go, starting in Denver. Unreal. He’ll get lit up like a Christmas tree.
What a joke
Preller is realizing how much he screwed up at the trade deadline. Making himself look like a fool with this acquisition.
Haven’t any of you cretins ever heard of the phrase “what’s one team’s trash is another team’s treasure” A perfect example is Brad Hand although I doubt any of you big mouths know who is is. He struggled with the Marlins then became an All-Star with the Padres. I’ll give yall a minute to search this info into Google….Jake may very do well with us especially with the playoffs ahead he may get it together. Stop counting your chickens before they hatch.
Brad was young Jake is old and washed up. Unless they are turning Jake into a reliever he is nothing good
If we get a reliever out of him I’m ok with that. Remember when we traded Fernando Rodney for Chris Paddack? Rodney was tossing well into his early 40’s when he retired. Let’s hope we come away clean from this acquisition.
Rodney was always a reliever
Eckersley was a older guy former Cub great look what he did in the bullpen for the A’s :Go Jake Arretta your next.
Eck was 32 when the A’s made him a reliever, and he wasn’t coming off 5 straight years of steep decline. In fact, he was still a pretty good starter.
There’s really no comparison.
@ Diehard So you think all Jake needs is a change of scenery? Seems to me he’s done that a few times now to no avail. But hey, Brandon Crawford is suddenly a power hitter. Stranger things have happened. As for planning on the playoffs, Cincy, the Phills, and the Cards are all closer to the Pads than the Pads are to the Dodgers.
Hans also couldn’t close a big game if life depended on it
LOL then Preller traded Brad Hand for Francisco Mejia. And he threw in Adam Cimber too. Cimber has a 2.55 ERA and a ERA+ of like 160 this year.
#Rockstar
Preller dug himself this SP hole, but let’s be real, Arrieta probably won’t get more than a few starts.
Hell likely only get one if it’s bad!
Ummmmm, why ? Congrats, you’re now worse off, SD.
Sometimes you just need a guy with a 7 ERA
Well, it wasn’t quite at 7, but somehow J.A. Happ has turned it around with the Cardinals so far, so who knows?
Good signing……for the Reds or 2nd place NL East team chasing them for the final wildcard.
Don’t forget about the Cardinals. They’re right in there as well now.
I know the Pads need someone to eat some innings, but one would think they’d still want to be in the game after he ate them….
You could have a really good team with the guys Preller has traded away.
You could have a very expensive but sort of good team with guys Preller has opened the check book for
Quantrill, Fried, France, Turner, Margot, Renfroe
Reyes, Eflin, Mejia, Alonso, Lauer, Hand, Urias …
Which time are you speaking off? He has gutted the farm there twice now.
When Preller goes full Rockstar GM it makes Dave Dombrowski wince.
I give it another 30 days before he runs another manager out of town after convincing ownership that’s the problem.
Somebody has to be the scapegoat. But he’s the guy making the decisions. Not just the roster and pitching staff, but who plays when and where. Tinglrr is just a lineup clerk.
I would have simply parted with a few low level prospects and got a legit starter at the deadline. I am rooting for the Giants to win division. Would like to see San Diego beat the Dodgers in wild card game. I give Musgrove a chance maybe Darvish or Snell if healthy and good. Musgrove I know will give a solid start. Nothing against the Dodgers. Just they are favored by most and I like seeing a shake up.
Hope is the last refuge of the damned. The Reds take the WC. Arrieta is the anchor to the bottom.
Well, if J.A. Happ can improve with a new team, maybe Arrieta can too?
Was pitching decent until the crackdown on sticky stuff this year
I hope you guys got some of that FREE MONEY I was giving away yesterday!!!! I told you bet against the Mets and Padres and to of course keep betting against the Cubs. I think we can now say the Padres are officially toast! Another embarrassing loss. Losing to the Rockies???? After that embarrassing Diamondbacks series??????? Anybody seen Manny Machado around anywhere???????
1 homer 4 RBI’s this month Machado is not worth 300 mil
While going a whole game w position players pitching may be just as successful, baseball is odd. Arrieta was just awful with the Cubs of late. However, there is a 25 pct chance he can be average or better for 4-6 starts. I would have tried Aaron Sanchez or a lot of AAA guys first but it is not an automatic Arrieta will be awful.
I think as a Cubs fan, the tough part is he always was a bit of a jerk. I would want to root for him to have one last good run in him if he was a nice guy. I kind of want to see him get clobbered.
Gore’s last game was June 18th, not the 13th. He was removed from that game for blister problems. The same reason he had been on the IL earlier in the season and the same reason he had been removed from his previous two starts after 3 inning and 2 innings respectively.
Jesus Luzardo > Mackenzie Gore …… Ouch!
Just hoping Arrietta can give them 5 innings and 3 runs or less….if he can do that until everyone is healthy its a win win.
It would be something if Arrieta threw a no hitter in his next start on Wednesday. The odds of this happening are very high and it is not going to happen, however, everyone on this forum would be dumbfounded if it did occur tomorrow night!
I’ve been getting rich betting against Arrieta giving a run and a half every start. Glad to see he’s back so I won’t lose that weekly income.
The only thing worse than his ERA is his never ending condescending attitude / his three years in Philly (at $75M)
were torture…
The Pads are D-O-N-E.
Paraphrasing Liar Liar
Why would anyone wanna do that!?
The original quote is “Why would any women wanna do that”?