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If Not The Braves, Where Could Freddie Freeman Sign?

By Tim Dierkes | December 27, 2021 at 12:13pm CDT

32-year-old first baseman Freddie Freeman, once of baseball’s best hitters, entered the lockout without a home.  After 12 years with the Braves and coming off a championship, the assumption is that Atlanta remains the favorite.

The last information we have on Freeman’s negotiations with the Braves dates back to mid-November.  On November 12th, Bob Nightengale of USA Today put it this way, reporting from the GM Meetings in Carlsbad:

“Free agent Freddie Freeman was on the mind of every team seeking a first baseman, with Freeman rejecting Atlanta’s five-year, $135 million offer, and seeking closer to a six-year, $200 million deal. Yet, you couldn’t find a soul who believes Freeman won’t be returning to Atlanta.”

Jon Heyman of MLB Network generally concurred in a report four days later, writing, “Last heard 6th year was still at issue in Freeman/Braves talks but situation is fluid and they’ve still got to be considered the favorite.”  A few weeks after that, Heyman suggested the Dodgers, Yankees, and Blue Jays are “trying to pry” Freeman away from the Braves, even though those clubs find it unlikely.

Will the Braves or Freeman crack on the sixth year issue once the lockout ends?  Would Freeman take a lower AAV than the expected $30MM+ to convince the Braves to commit to a sixth year, perhaps at something like six years and $160MM?  Whatever needs to happen to get it done, the impending lockout did not create enough pressure to result in an agreement.  You’d have to think Freeman’s chances of leaving the Braves are around their highest point, whatever those chances are.  The Braves have let it get to a point where Freeman has no team, and other teams likely made offers.

Let’s assume something like MLBTR’s six-year, $180MM projection would be needed to lure Freeman away from the Braves.  Signing Freeman would also likely require draft pick forfeiture.  If not the Braves, which teams could reasonably do that contract?  Let’s start by assessing Heyman’s trio.

  • Dodgers: The Dodgers doing a six-year contract for another team’s 32-year-old free agent?  Andrew Friedman has been in charge for seven years now, and he’s given out four-plus years to another team’s free agent two times: four years to Brandon McCarthy in 2014, and four years to AJ Pollock in 2019.  Under Friedman, the club did go to four years to retain Justin Turner and Chris Taylor and five to keep Kenley Jansen in free agency.  They also notably did a 12-year extension with Mookie Betts before he played a regular season game with the team.  But six years to Freeman along with the forfeiture of the Dodgers’ second and fifth round draft picks?  I just don’t see it.  Signing Freeman would also require Max Muncy to spend more time at second or third base, but the addition of an NL DH could alleviate a potential logjam.
  • Yankees: The Yankees basically did nothing to improve the team prior to the lockout, so there’s the idea they could add Freeman’s sweet-swinging lefty bat in lieu of their more pressing need at shortstop.  Even if Freeman costs $180MM, that’s still likely over $100MM less than Carlos Correa.  The team could and would likely have to exceed a new 2022 competitive balance tax threshold to sign Freeman, but they may be willing to do so after staying below the line in 2021.  Adding Freeman would do nothing to solve the shortstop issue, and it would also crowd out Giancarlo Stanton, DJ LeMahieu, Luke Voit, and Gleyber Torres to a degree.  One of them could be traded to accommodate Freeman.  Still, Freeman is an imperfect fit for a team that is also in need of rotation help.
  • Blue Jays: Speaking of imperfect Freeman fits, the Blue Jays currently have Vladimir Guerrero Jr. entrenched at first base.  Assuming Freeman doesn’t intend to mostly shelve his first baseman’s glove, Vlad Jr. would have to spend most of his time at designated hitter – fresh off a second-place MVP finish and Silver Slugger award.  A shift back to third base for Guerrero would seem even more risky.  It’s also worth noting that signing Freeman would permanently plug up Toronto’s DH spot, where George Springer spent nearly half his games in 2021.  I think the Blue Jays could swing the financial commitment to Freeman, and I get the idea of replacing Marcus Semien’s bat, but this is not a great roster fit.

So we’ve looked at the three teams Heyman linked to Freeman, and none seem like a perfect fit.  Let’s look at all the other even slightly plausible options.

    • White Sox: They’ve got Jose Abreu at first base, but only through 2022.  They’ve also got flexibility in the DH spot, so the roster fit could work.  Financially, though, I’d be quite surprised to see the White Sox make this level of commitment given their current payroll situation.
    • Tigers: There’s a sense that the Tigers have finished their major spending after the Javier Baez and Eduardo Rodriguez signings.  But man, would Freeman be a game-changer in Detroit.  They’ve got Jonathan Schoop at first base and Miguel Cabrera at DH, neither of whom should block a player like Freeman.  Freeman could get in the way of top prospect Spencer Torkelson, who played more first base than third this year in the minors.  Plus, the club has Jeimer Candelario at third base.  I don’t think the Tigers will pursue Freeman, but if they had the desire to spend the money I think the roster could be figured out.
    • Red Sox: The Red Sox have Bobby Dalbec at first base, who came on very strong in the season’s final two months.  They’ve got J.D. Martinez at DH, but only for one more year.  They also have first base prospect Triston Casas.  Roster-wise, the Red Sox have good options at first for the long-term, though no established Major Leaguers.  They also have a GM who’s yet to give a free agent more than $14MM.  As with Andrew Friedman, this just doesn’t seem like Chaim Bloom’s way of doing things.
    • Astros: The Astros have Yuli Gurriel at first base, but only for one more year.  They’ve got Yordan Alvarez as the regular DH.  Signing Freeman would probably necessitate a Gurriel trade.  The Astros do have the payroll flexibility to accommodate Freeman, but they seem like yet another big market club that would shy away from signing a corner infielder through age 37 – especially since they don’t seem to want to pay Carlos Correa past age 31.
    • Angels:  The Angels are committed to Shohei Ohtani as DH for two more years, and they’d surely like to lock up the AL MVP beyond that.  And Jared Walsh took over first base quite capably for the Halos this year.  Like the Yankees, shortstop and the rotation are more pressing needs.  It’s difficult to see Freeman landing here.
    • Mariners: The Mariners have Ty France at first base, plus Evan White under contract through 2025.  They don’t have a set DH, but Kyle Lewis and Luis Torrens are projected to spend time there in 2022.  France could potentially play some second or third base, if the Mariners decided to accommodate Freeman.  The Mariners spent big on Robbie Ray and traded for Adam Frazier, but they’re known to be in the hunt for a significant position player addition.  I consider Freeman within the realm of possibility, though the more versatile Kris Bryant would fit better if the price tag is similar.
    • Rangers: The Rangers have Nathaniel Lowe at first base, and no set DH.  Lowe had a nice year for a player who hits the ball on the ground 55% of the time, but bumping him to DH for Freeman wouldn’t be problematic.  It’d be staggering for the Rangers to add Freeman after already committing $561.2MM to four free agents, though they could afford it.  Pitching has to be a higher priority for this team, but who’s to say they can’t do both?
    • Cubs: The Cubs have Frank Schwindel penciled in at first base after a strong couple of months, and no NL team has an incumbent DH.  Schwindel is 29 and there was nothing special about his exit velocity or launch angle even in his successful stint.  Pushing Schwindel to DH for Freeman wouldn’t be an issue, and the team did make a statement with the Marcus Stroman signing.  But that was a surprisingly short three-year deal, and with Freeman we’re talking about double that term to a player who is 19 months older.  Freeman just doesn’t fit with the long-term payroll flexibility GM Jed Hoyer enjoys.
    • Cardinals: The team has Paul Goldschmidt under contract for three more years, but again, an NL DH would open things up.  Signing Freeman would mean stretching payroll to a franchise record, and I doubt the team considers first base/DH a position of need.
    • Marlins: The Marlins have Jesus Aguilar under control for next year, but he’s not much of an impediment for a player like Freeman.  Here, it’s all about money.  A team with a $65MM payroll can afford Freeman, but Avisail Garcia’s $53MM deal seemed like the Marlins’ big free agency strike.  Freeman would require more than triple that commitment.
    • Mets: The Mets have to be listed here in the name of, “How crazy can Steve Cohen get?”  Crazy enough to add Freeman to the $254.5MM the club already committed to free agents this winter, while also forfeiting the 14th pick in next year’s draft?  Even with a more significant need in the rotation?  I don’t expect Cohen to steal Freeman away from the Braves, but it’d be the ultimate power move.
    • Phillies: The Phillies have Rhys Hoskins for two more years.  He’s been an excellent hitter, though he will be coming off lower abdomen surgery.  The Phillies’ needs at shortstop, third base, left field, and center field are much more stark than at first base/DH.  They also have a fairly bloated payroll situation.  I suppose Dave Dombrowski could simplify and try to sign Freeman in the name of adding the top bat, but it’d be a surprising choice.
    • Nationals: One year of Josh Bell wouldn’t block Freeman.  And should the Nats really take any kind of step back with only three more years of control of Juan Soto?  But it just doesn’t sound like the Nationals are looking to take on a commitment of this nature this winter.
    • Rockies: They’ve got C.J. Cron at first base, but could easily move him to DH for Freeman.  The Rockies have relatively modest commitments, which drop quite a bit as of 2024.  As a team with real and surprising interest in Kris Bryant, we should consider a possible pursuit of Freeman as well.
    • Padres: Freeman is an excellent roster fit for the Padres, who have an underperforming Eric Hosmer locked in through 2025.  The team’s payroll is pushing $200MM already, so GM A.J. Preller would need to get creative and move contracts to fit Freeman in.  It’s a possibility that can’t be ruled out.
    • Giants: The Giants haven’t really demonstrated their financial might yet, committing $99.4MM to four free agents without topping Anthony DeSclafani’s $36MM.  DH is the ideal spot for the injury-prone Brandon Belt.  Farhan Zaidi does seem to come from the increasingly common GM school of thought that eschews long-term free agent commitments, even in big markets.  He’d have to buck that trend to sign Freeman, but otherwise it’s reasonable enough.
    • Brewers: The Brewers are a contending team with Rowdy Tellez penciled in at first base, so they at least warrant a mention.  It’s just hard to see them outbidding the field to land Freeman in that $180MM range.  I could write something very similar for the Guardians.

You’ve seen my opinions; now it’s your turn (direct poll link for app users here).

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  1. Dodger Dog

    4 years ago

    I don’t hate the White Sox fit

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    • The Baseball Fan

      4 years ago

      At DH he would be very nice. Just have to trade Sheets and Burger in that case

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      • Please, Hammer. Don't hurt 'em.

        4 years ago

        I think the Dodgers are the best fit. They can just move Muncy over to 2nd and let Turner take Seager’s old spot. They also have money and need to add someone big after losing Seager and Scherzer. If the Yankees or Phillies decide to spend that kind of money they need to do it on someone like Correa or Story. The Giants and Mariners aren’t terrible fits. I don’t think the White Sox will spend that kind of bread. Most of the other teams are either in the same boat as the White Sox or are just bad fits. I would say chances are:
        1. Braves
        2. Dodgers
        3. Giants
        4. Mariners
        5. The Field as anyone else is too much of a long shot to rank even close to those 4.

        I didn’t realize Hosmer still has 4 years left on that deal. Wow. I predict the Padres can’t move that contract for at least 2 more years and probably 3. I don’t think any team is going to be willing to eat that bad deal for more than one year. Acquiring Hosmer now would be similar to an organization saying they don’t expect to contend for at least 4 more years. That doesn’t really excite the fans base.

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        • Please, Hammer. Don't hurt 'em.

          4 years ago

          The Braves still really make the most sense on paper. They don’t have a minor league first baseman to replace him so they would have to trade for Olson or move Riley to first.

          If Freeman leaves one way they could satisfy the fan base is by moving Riley to first and make a big push to trade for Jose Ramirez. I think they have the prospect capital to do it. What do you guys think it would take for the Braves to get Ramirez? Would a package centered around 2 or 3 of Pache, Waters and Contreras while throwing in maybe Touissaint, Newcomb and possibly Shewmake get it done? I know the last 3 aren’t very big names anymore but the first 3 are a lot considering Ramirez isn’t that far from free agency. Waters is a power hitter and Pache looks like a lock to win the platinum glove for years. Catchers of the future like Contreras are also really hard to find right now. Shewmake still has his entire contract left and Newcomb and Touissaint are both cheap arms who could have some upside.

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      4 years ago

      The only fit on the White Sox would be because of Freddie Freeman’s left-handed bat. The White Sox already have 1B Jose Abreu locked in for 2022 and will likely extend him so he can finish his career with the only MLB organization he has known. The White Sox also have Andrew Vaughn set as the heir apparent to Abreu at 1B with the pair also sharing DH duty. Vaughn will also be getting some reps at a corner outfield spot until the team settles on its core LF and RF from among a host of long term options that include Eloy Jimenez, Yoelqui Cespedes and soon to be signed Cuban Oscar Colas. Gavin Sheets would also figure in the 1B, DH and OF mix.

      The only way I see Freeman signing with the White Sox would be a scenario where Vaughn was used in a trade this offseason to acquire their future core second baseman, perhaps as a centerpiece in a Ketel Marte deal with the Diamondbacks.

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      • Aaron Sapoznik

        4 years ago

        Btw: I voted for the Yankees in this poll.

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      • Dodger Dog

        4 years ago

        Not extending Abreu is a very easy solution to this.

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          4 years ago

          Jose Abreu is the heir apparent ‘Mr. White Sox’ to fellow Cuban HOF’er Minnie Minoso. He’s one of the two current franchise faces along with SS Tim Anderson. Abreu is a fan favorite and his biggest one also happens to be owner Jerry Reinsdorf. I suspect Abreu’s next contract will be his last and it will keep him on the southside of Chicago until he retires, after which he will remain in the organization in some capacity, be it a front office role akin to Jim Thome’s and/or as their international ambassador like Minoso.

          Even in the event that Abreu departs, the White Sox still have a host of solid internal candidates to fill the role of first baseman that includes Andrew Vaughn, Gavin Sheets, Jake Burger and perhaps even 6-4, 240lb Eloy Jimenez should he continue to find ways of missing games due to his misadventures out in LF.

          The White Sox also have 33-year old starting catcher Yasmani Grandal under contract through 2023. They could use his high OPS switch-hitting bat in the lineup at 1B and DH aside from the typical 100-120 game workload he figures to get behind the dish over the next two seasons.

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      • Cosmo2

        4 years ago

        They could sign Freeman and worry about Vaughn if and when he fulfills his promise, creating a good problem to have.

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          4 years ago

          If the White Sox are compelled to find a lefty bat for their lineup in 2022 and beyond a trade for 2B Jeff McNeil might be the most sensible move. There are also a couple of much cheaper FA options available than Freddie Freeman in corner outfielders Kyle Schwarber and Michael Conforto.

          If White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf has $150-200MM dollars burning a hole in his pocket this offseason for a FA like Freeman it would make a lot more sense for his front office to pursue a versatile bat like Kris Bryant who can play all 3 OF spots, 3B and 1B. The White Sox would also be better served spending significantly less, perhaps $120-140MM on SS Trevor Story to fill their 2B hole. Many pundits feel that the keystone is where Story will likely finish his MLB career anyway with his diminished throwing arm.

          Finally, it the White Sox are actually inclined to ink a high OBP/OPS lefty bat to play 1B why not pursue former Cubs Anthony Rizzo for a fraction of Freeman’s cost. The added benefit of this deal would be to corner the Chicago Buona Beef market with both Rizzo and Frank Thomas sporting White Sox unis in their ads!

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    • Al Hirschen

      4 years ago

      YANKEES. He fits the Hal Steinbrenner Yankees player

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    • dsett75

      4 years ago

      The Giants, Brewers or Cubs would be better.

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  2. The Baseball Fan

    4 years ago

    Surprised that the majority voted Dodgers… where would Muncy play?

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    • Joe says...

      4 years ago

      Toronto?

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      • Yankee-4-Lifer 75

        4 years ago

        @Joe says… why not the Yankees for 5 years and a club option for a 6th season? I’m definitely thinking Freeman is going back to the Braves though.

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        • Joe says...

          4 years ago

          Y4L, I kinda stayed away from the Yankees on purpose. But yeah I’d love to have him in pinstripes.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      I don’t think Dodgers want a long-term contract (nor do I think that Freeman will leave) but Muncy plays 2B and 3B.
      Even if Dodgers skip freeman, this means they could package multiple elite prospects for As 1b Olsen.
      C Smith
      1B freeman (or Olsen)
      2B Lux
      Ss Trea turner
      3B Muncy
      Dh justin turner
      Of betts
      Of pollock
      Of Bellinger

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        4 years ago

        Taylor could either supplant Lux at 2B or be the super sub.

        C smith
        1B belli
        2B Lux
        Ss trea
        3B muncy
        DH Justin
        Cf Taylor
        Lf betts
        Rf pollock

        Otherwise
        Muncy at 1B
        Justin at 3B
        Belli in cf
        Taylor at 2B
        Lux at DH

        So the Dodgers have options!

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        • tstats

          4 years ago

          There will be a platoon cycle of Lux, Taylor, and Pollock. The two righties have different strengths, Taylor IMO is better at hitting breaking balls and Pollock is better on fastballs. So if you use Lux in LF which is a possibility you can toy with the matchups even more than before and still have the open DH spot so guys like Beaty and eventually the upper prospects have ABs.

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        • Dodger Dog

          4 years ago

          I’m pretty sure Chris Taylor has been #1 in all of MLB vs high velocity fastballs the past few seasons.

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      • padam

        4 years ago

        Taylor???

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    • Spare Tire Dixon

      4 years ago

      DH or 2B?

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    • to4

      4 years ago

      DH

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    • Rhyde1990

      4 years ago

      2nd

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    • BeforeMcCourt

      4 years ago

      He played 2B in 2020 quite well. Lux becomes Chris Taylor’s LH doppelgänger

      It’s shocking how quickly the writer wrote them off as a fit, honestly

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    • SpaceJamSucks

      4 years ago

      The majority did not vote for the Dodgers, the plurality currently voted for Yankees, but onto Muncy. Muncy would slot over as he has been fairly flexible in his infield positioning. Turner is older and has been a little banged up the past couple years, so basically like the Dodgers have been doing for years they would just take it on a game to game basis and rotate out a player for rest at least once every 5 games. 80% of a 162 game season is ~130 games, something of which everyone can agree not all players will do. Muncy, Taylor/Trea, Lux, Turner, Freeman easily could though and then filter in the OF with Betts, Bellinger, Taylor/Trea, Pollock. These are fairly broad numbers, but it’s easy to see the fit with Freeman once you understand the rotation of players.

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  3. Mjm117

    4 years ago

    Freeman to Marlins would be amazing but a pipe dream

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  4. FredMcGriff for the HOF

    4 years ago

    I couldn’t vote in this poll. I just don’t see him leaving Atlanta. The Braves will make it happen.I think if he truly wanted to leave it would easily have happened before the lockout everyone knew was coming.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      I agree with you. If he can get 5/150 from Atlanta or 6/192 from another team, that is the biggest spread that I can imagine. I think Freeman returns to Atlanta.

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    • RunDMC

      4 years ago

      I’ve been 60/40 that he returns to ATL since they won the WS, but I now see it as 40/60 he returns. I still can’t shake the TOR/LAA being landing spots, despite the inconvenient fits. Would be crazy to move Vlad Jr. off of 1B, but would someone like Freeman being the power move TOR needs to make to stake a claim in the AL East, as their young studs fully mature?

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        4 years ago

        A bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush (whatever that saying is). He will sign to remain Atlanta which is where he belongs. If he chooses to leave, Boston is the perfect fit. He’s the one guy who can make a championship difference in 22 and depending on the new CBA, he’s the first big move of the year for Boston or New York. injuries happen worry about roster configuration later.

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          4 years ago

          By signing Freeman, Boston would be saying goodbye to either Xander or Devers as they wouldn’t have the money to re-sign both. I believe Tristan Casas is the closest thing they’ve had to a ‘can’t miss’ prospect since Betts so I’d be shocked if Boston made a legitimate play for Freeman. The Yankees seem like a more realistic destination than Boston to me. I also wouldn’t be excited paying Freeman $30M for his age 36-38 seasons. His bat speed is bound to slow down as he ages. It wouldn’t surprise me if Colorado makes him the highest offer either. They tend to zig when they should zag and the owner is delusional enough to believe they can be a playoff team sooner than later. But if I had to guess, Atlanta wins the standoff and re-signs him for 6/$150 or 5/$140 with a $20M 6th year option and a $5M+ buyout on that option. I struggle to see Freeman getting the full 6/$180M at his age from anyone.

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        • Dodger Dog

          4 years ago

          Boston absolutely has the money to sign all three of those guys. Their ownership just chooses not to.

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        • BeforeMcCourt

          4 years ago

          Boston doesn’t have money for stars? Are you drunk?

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          4 years ago

          Of course Boston has the money to pay Freeman but even the highest revenue team (the Dodgers) have a budget they won’t exceed. We’ve seen that this offseason already as they let Seager and Scherzer walk along with another potential 3-4 contributors to their championship team. If Boston signed Freeman @ $30M/yr and extended both Xander and Devers at market rates, they would be on the hook to pay (4) players $30M+ apiece. Tying up $120M+ on 4 players for the next 3-5 seasons (Sale, Xander, Devers and Freeman) is not a recipe for success when they need to pay another 24-25 players to field a full, competitive major league team. They wouldn’t have the payroll capacity to add the Eovaldi’s, Rodon’s, Jansen’s of the league to round out their roster. They’d have to rely on a lot of pre-Arb players and try to find the next Kiki deal in order to match the quality of the other teams in the league and more importantly, the quality in their own division. Rounding out the pitching staff would be the hardest for them as solid #2’s cost close to $20M per year.

          The Sox are on the right track now. They have a nice blend of veterans in their prime, veterans on expiring contracts along with some young talent that has either already broken in or will do so this season. Bloom should continue to work around the margins and find good short term deals that even if they go over the CBT in 2022, the team is not hamstrung for years to come. The Red Sox are in really good shape right now and 2023 will see $60M+ come off their books. If 50% of their major league ready prospects pan out, Boston will be competitive for the next 4-6 seasons. Signing Freeman would put a major dent in their plans to build a long term contender. They need that payroll flexibility and farm depth to add to the team at the deadline when they are in position to win it all. I’d much prefer Boston to stay the course vs. signing a 32-year old player to 6 year, top of the market deal.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          4 years ago

          Everything hinges on the new CBA. Sox ownership took advantage of the many championships this d century to reset financially. They will spend when the pandemic ends if not when their bottom line is affected. Fannies not in seats or eyeballs not on NESN will get them to spend. They just will spend smartly this time. No panda or Hanley type moves. FF being the exception should he leave Atlanta.

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    • Brew’88

      4 years ago

      If Atl offers him 5/150 with benefits and he walks away for an extra year elsewhere, I think Freddie and the team that signs him will bear a burden of adverse negatively (not just by Braves fans). I know it’s business, but gut feeling tells me it would be a huge mistake for everyone, especially Freddie. His star will forever shine brightest in Atl,

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      • Dodger Dog

        4 years ago

        What do you mean by “with benefits”?

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        • HalosHeavenJJ

          4 years ago

          I’m kind of curios here, too.

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        • Chief Two Hands

          4 years ago

          Off-day team orgies?

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        • BeforeMcCourt

          4 years ago

          Team… or team sponsored? Two very different casts of actors

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        • Brew’88

          4 years ago

          His high standing in the community is a benefit of immense value

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    • dsett75

      4 years ago

      I don’t think he’ll leave either. I think he has a 6-year offer on the table already. He’s just waiting for Atlanta to match it basically. They knew there’d be a lockout so for all we know, Atlanta told him let us see where we’re at after the lockout ends and Freeman agreed. At least until whichever team that gave him the offer says now or never cuz we gotta move on to other business. Which could come right after business starts up again. In fact, if I’m right, Freeman may be one of the first big FA’s to sign after the lockout. But it’ll probably be with Atlanta. Essentially, they did each other a solid…..The Braves gave Freeman time to see what’s out there & Freeman gave Atlanta time to see where their finances are at after the new CBA. They’ll give him the 6th year when all is said & done.

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  5. Rsox

    4 years ago

    I still don’t see him leaving Atlanta and believe the Braves will eventually give in on the 6th year.

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    • The Baseball Fan

      4 years ago

      I agree, I just can’t imagine him in another uniform

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  6. StupendousYappi

    4 years ago

    Yankees need to do something this would be a huge boost.

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    • Yankee Clipper

      4 years ago

      They should just pivot to Story on a shorter (3 year) high AAV, get a SP (Rodon?) and Olson or Freeman. That would be huge for their performance on both sides and allow for their prospects to come up without being rushed. Bring up Cabrera as a utility IFer.

      CF? Put Florial or Dunham out there and let them learn. Florial is excellent defensively – give him a real shot.

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  7. Chipper Jones' illegitimate kid

    4 years ago

    Nippon Ham Fighters

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  8. mitchladd

    4 years ago

    I hate to say it but I think he ends up with the yankees. Voit is in no way, shape or form a roadblock to signing Freddie. He would improve the defense all around the infield, give them the patient lefthanded bat they don’t have and you could easily move Voit for an OF to fill a spot there. Them doing nothing before the lockout makes me think they were wanting to see the new CBA before making a big plunge. Maybe not, I’ve heard some yankee fans say that they won’t be spending that way any more.

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    • Ma4170

      4 years ago

      Freeman is an absolute game changer for the Yankees and a great fit for that lineup which can’t win as constructed

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      • 48-team MLB

        4 years ago

        He would definitely help the Yankees in their attempt to win now but the very thought of it makes me sick as a Braves fan.

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  9. The best23

    4 years ago

    Hoskins been excellent I don’t know who they seen

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    • Ma4170

      4 years ago

      Yeah that’s not the adjective I’d use for him

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  10. msqboxer

    4 years ago

    The CWS might be the surprise team…Reinsdorf is 85 and wants another WS and this team has it’s core signed through 2024.. If they could move Kimbrel’s $16M they’d be sitting at about $180-$185M for 2022. Not to mention Freeman is exactly the type of old school player and clubhouse presents TLR loves.

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    • LebronHatesAsians

      4 years ago

      Jose Abreu has 1b on lockdown on that side of town

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      • Dodger Dog

        4 years ago

        … for one more season

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    • PutPeteinthehall

      4 years ago

      Kimbrel will be moved. However the White Sox will probably target 2nd base, a back end starter, and or an outfielder. They already have two first basemen in Abreu and Sheets with Vaughn able to cover there too. Don’t expect a blockbuster contract from Reinsdorf. Another deadline deal if in the hunt – yes.

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      • jim stem

        4 years ago

        I see a Kimbrel deal with the Mets in some aspect. Probably moving McNeil in exchange for Kimbrel and cash. Depends what impression McNeil makes on Buck.

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        • BartoloHRball

          4 years ago

          Zero chance they move McNeil (controllable and cheap, 3 WAR) for Kimbrel bc he slumped worse than McNeil and he is expensive. I’d bet on the position players to bounce back better. Rarely so you trade an everyday player who can play 4-5 positions for an expensive reliever who’s numbers tanked in recent years.

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          4 years ago

          I see the White Sox moving Kimbrel to Boston for Matt Barnes. It would give Chicago about $7M of payroll relief this season and give them one of best late inning bullpens in all of baseball with Barnes, Graveman & Hendriks for the 7th, 8th & 9th innings. Barnes definitely ran out of gas in August but he was one of the most dominant relievers in baseball from April-July. Between the shortened 2020 season and the overuse of Barnes early on in 2021, it didn’t surprise me that Barnes was on empty to finish the year. Chicago has the bullpen depth to protect Barnes from overuse and make sure he remains fresh in September and October. It’s a trade that makes a lot of sense for both teams.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          4 years ago

          I could see them move McNeil to coddle Lindor, but maybe Buck whips them into shape. But if they do trade McNeil it won’t be to acquire Kimbrel. Maybe to the Brewers or Cubs for a prospect?

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    • 48-team MLB

      4 years ago

      The Braves will meet the White Sox in the World Series soon.

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  11. tstats

    4 years ago

    Would he pitch? Then the angels

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    • Dodger Dog

      4 years ago

      Anthony Rizzo to Anaheim confirmed

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  12. LebronHatesAsians

    4 years ago

    If I’m the Yankees I overpay for Freeman but keep the contract at 5 years. DJ stays at 2nd, Gleyber to LF.

    Now you have Gallo, Voit, the typical suspects (all those out of place pieces/failed prospects) and the Yankee checkbook to find a stopgap SS, C and a glove first CF to play the 95% of the season since 5% is all Hicks can be counted on for.

    Let the young pitching get a crack and see if they can develop into something. This is a transitional year, they will not be going all in by any accord. This is not the front office of old that is insulted by the idea of finishing anything but first.

    Look at that I didn’t even need PhD in Indonesian Anthropology from an Ivy League college to figure out a game plan for the front office.

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      4 years ago

      The Yankees number one priority is catcher, followed by SS. I believe the Yankees put together a strong trade package for Wilson Contreras. This way, they can keep Voit & Sanchez for 1st base / DH / bench bat reps. While Freeman would look great in pinstripes, 1st base is just not a major position of need for NY if they can address the catcher position. If they can’t get a catcher this offseason then maybe a shorter term deal for Rizzo makes more sense for them than Freeman. SS is a close second to catcher for NY so if they are going to spend, C or SS makes more sense than first base to me.

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  13. Spare Tire Dixon

    4 years ago

    I think he stays in Atlanta, honestly. If I’m the Dodgers, Yankees, etc. I would be pushing hard to trade for Matt Olson, who is cheaper (for now) and younger. Freddie is incredible, but Olson presents more flexibility in the long run for most teams

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      4 years ago

      The issue with Olson is that he is going to cost (2) top 5-10 prospects and another young, promising MLB pitcher or player as well. With all the talent they have traded away recently, the Dodgers or Yankees may be hesitant to do so. The only way they make this move is if Olson agrees to a long term extension as part of the deal. He has two seasons of control left, but if they are forced to part with that much young talent, it would seem they would want to ensure they have him wrapped up for the next 8+ seasons.

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      • stymeedone

        4 years ago

        Not sure of this, but I thought MLB eliminated negotiation periods before completing trades. Last time I remember it happening was the ARod to Boston fiasco, which the MLBPA overturned. Has there been one that happened, since?

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          4 years ago

          Honestly, I’m not sure but if they did indeed pass that rule, there still had to be a way to at least discuss the terms of an acceptable extension if not come to a non-binding verbal agreement on an extension prior to completing the trade. This is basically what the Dodgers did with Mookie Betts. They traded for him in Jan or Feb and then signed him to a 12 year extension before he played a single game for them. I’m willing to bet those terms were discussed and informally agreed to prior to completing the trade as they would not have given up Verdugo, Downs and agreed to pay 50% of the remaining ~$100M on Price’s contract without some certainty that Betts would agree to their extension offer.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      Olson would be perfect for the Dodgers and I think now is the time for them to use several top prospects as currency. But yes, they need to assess his willingness to be extended.

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  14. 48-team MLB

    4 years ago

    This ridiculous lockout needs to end. I obviously want Freeman back in Atlanta but I would like to know the answer one way or the other.

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  15. Yanks2

    4 years ago

    He’s not going to the Yankees (if he doesn’t sign with Atlanta). Cashman won’t pay him the money he wants. Yankees have majority just one dimensional players. They’ll wind up signing declining Rizzo to a 2 year 30m deal because it’s the cheap way out. They’ll miss out on Olson too.

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    • Zonedeads

      4 years ago

      Your comment is ridiculous. A team that just spent 300+ million on one player last year is all of the sudden a team that takes the “cheap way out”

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      • RunDMC

        4 years ago

        Good reason why they’re going the “cheap way out”, especially if they’re looking at an imminent Judge decision.

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      • stymeedone

        4 years ago

        @zonedeads
        It seems that was the one that took them to the brink. Sign Freeman and wave goodbye to Judge. Can’t have every player at $30MM per, even if you’re the Yankees or Dodgers.

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  16. tiredolddude

    4 years ago

    Jeez, not the Pirates? Ah, but where would he play? Tsutsugo has 1st locked up

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      Tsutsugo is gonna do ok!

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  17. fathead0507

    4 years ago

    Rangers can jump in on this as well

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  18. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    If Middleton is ready to bite the bullet then I say get Freeman, DH or not. If not you trade Hosk, if it is implemented then that lineup starts to look stellar.

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    • 48-team MLB

      4 years ago

      If Freddie Freeman becomes Phreddie Phreeman then all hope for this world is lost. If we’re forced to watch him leave Atlanta then Seattle is where I would want him to go so he would be as far away as possible.

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  19. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    4 years ago

    Hey Freeman to the Orioles is higher than six or seven other teams

    I would take Freeman at first

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    • kingbum

      4 years ago

      The one spot on the Orioles that is set is 1B lol, you could use Freeman to DH though.

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  20. to4

    4 years ago

    It could be a pipe dream, but realistically, Toronto has the payroll flexibility to land both, Bryant and Freeman and just go with in-house option Pearson as the 5ft starter or trade for one. Maybe the Sox also accept a straight up Kimberly for Grichuk trade but if they don’t, Romano has done a great job there.

    1.Springer CF
    2.Bichette SS
    3.Freeman 1B
    4.Vladimir Jr. DH
    5.Bryant 3B
    6.Teoscar RF
    7.Lourdes Jr. LF
    8.Moreno C
    9.Biggio 2B

    1.Jin Ryu
    2.Berrios
    3.Gausman
    4.Manoah
    5.Pearson

    Guys like Groshans and Moreno are likely to make the jump in 2022. So maybe the Jays could turn Groshans into a CF or trade him for a SP. Teoscar could also be traded away to Cleveland for a SP or perhaps land Ramirez if they only decide to sign Bryant/Freeman/or neither one. I would assume they sign Bryant and his versatility and leave Freeman along to keep the DH open and let Vlad Jr. handle 1B.

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    • to4

      4 years ago

      Per my previous comment, this would be the scenario which I’m fine with it as well!

      1.Bichette SS
      2.Biggio 2B
      3.Vladimir Jr. 1B
      4.Bryant RF
      5.Ramirez 3B
      6.Springer DH
      7.Lourdes Jr. LF
      8.Moreno C
      9.Groshans CF

      1.Jin Ryu
      2.Berrios
      3.Gausman
      4.Manoah
      5.Pearson

      I could work with this too to start the season!

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      • Dorothy_Mantooth

        4 years ago

        If the Bluejays were to sign both Bryant and Freeman, they wouldn’t have the money to lock up their young stars down the road (Vlad, Bichette, Manoah, etc.). To me, Toronto currently has enough offensive firepower to compete with any team in baseball. If Toronto is looking to spend more money, it should be used to improve their bullpen or their starting rotation. Since most of the elite FA starters have already signed, Toronto might have to pivot to the trade market to add a starter but they still have plenty of talent in the minors to make that happen. They could trade one of their better catching prospects, Pearson & another well thought of prospect/player for a solid #2 or #3 with a proven track record. The Bluejays may wait to see if Biggio can rebound this year before going all in for another IF, but if they are hesitant to do so, a FA deal with Story or Bryant would make sense. I don’t see them adding multiple, offensive FA’s to the team. A couple of expensive missteps by Toronto could really derail their goal of being perennial contenders for the next 4-5 years so they need to be careful with their spending as they try to round out their club.

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        • to4

          4 years ago

          Make sense. I would just sign Bryant, trade with the A’s for Montas, Laureano, Olson by sending Pearson, Groshans, Jimenez and one of the better C as the main pieces. Then swing another trade with Cleveland for one of their SP by sending one of the OF and perhaps acquiring Kimbrel for Grichuk straight up as a salary dump as well.

          1.Springer RF
          2.Bichette SS
          3.Vladimir Jr. 1B
          4.Bryant 3B
          5.Olson DH
          6.Teoscar CF
          7.Lourdes Jr. LF
          8.Moreno C
          9.Biggio 2B

          1.Jin Ryu
          2.Berrios
          3.Gausman
          4.Montas
          5.Manoah
          6.Quantrill

          Cimber SU
          Merryweather SU
          Romano SU
          Kimbrel SU

          A much deeper line up, an improved back end of the bullpen and a deeper rotation.

          Let’s Go !

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        • to4

          4 years ago

          Sorry, Kimbrel is the CL

          They should add an edit bottom here!

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        4 years ago

        Signing freeman and Bryant would give them over $100 million in 4 players in 23, then if you extend bichette and vladdy it would be around 150 million for 6.

        It would be a terrible use of assets for a team that won’t get much higher in payroll. It’s not just a pipe dream it’s a nightmare.

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    • DarkSide830

      4 years ago

      2020-21 offseason – Blue Jays are interested in everyone

      2021-22 offseason – Blue Jays fans are interested in everyone.

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      • LordD99

        4 years ago

        It’s not a bias, but I’d say the Blue Jays get more “digital ink” than any other team on MLBTR.

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      • Best Screenname Ever

        4 years ago

        Except Gausman apparently. This is the one if I remember correctly, who was trashing his playpen and tossing the dolls out when Toronto signed Gausman and not Ray.

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      • to4

        4 years ago

        We did walk away with Ryu in 2019, then Springer in 2020, and now Gausman in 2021 and likely are not done!

        What exactly are you implying?

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  21. ❤️ MuteButton

    4 years ago

    The Astros would N O T trade Gurriel to accommodate Freeman – they would simply move him across the diamond to third and put Bregman at shortstop. You don’t trade away a guy that just won a gold glove and a batting title while making only $8 million a year. Yuli was a third baseman when they signed him. Come on people dig deeper, cross your t‘s, dot you i’s.

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      4 years ago

      Gurriel will turn 38 in June so his playing days are coming to an end. I know Houston loves what Gurriel brings to the table, but a deal for Freeman would be more about the future than just the 2022 season. If Houston (or any other team) knew that Freeman will be able to perform as well as Gurriel has in his late 30’s, he’d have been signed already. It’s still a risky deal for any team but Houston is as good of guess as any non-Atlanta team out there, Gurriel or not.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        4 years ago

        Except that I think Houston will be spending their money on Correa. Correa to Houston, Freeman to Atlanta, sort of the natural order of things.

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  22. jim stem

    4 years ago

    It doesn’t really matter WHO wants him. Any team bidding fir his services is only driving up the eventual Braves’ winning contract bid.

    If no one offers more than four years, Atlanta gets him for 5. If no offers more than five, they get him for 6. If, say, Seattle offers a top non-Atlanta bid of 4/120, Atlanta offers 5/150 and he signs back with the Braves. Whatever the highest AAV per year is, Braves just have to offer one more year at the same AAV. There just isn’t any way he leaves the Braves unless they really screw this up.

    Any team on need of 1b can has less expensive free agent options. How many teams can truly add another 30mil/year player on a guaranteed 5+ year contract?

    Braves are a perennial contender. They have a great farm system. They are willing to trade for the necessary pieces during the season to win.

    Braves will end up giving Freddie some kind of deal that will guarantee him a roster spot for 6 years and pay him very well deferred over 10 years.

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    • jim stem

      4 years ago

      Sorry, didn’t proof read.

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    • kje76

      4 years ago

      Honestly, that would be a win for most NL teams, too – drive up the Braves’ price, limit the Braves’ options.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      Based on your theory, the Dodgers should offer 6 years at 160 million

      $30 million per year for years 1-5, and a player option for year 6 at $10 million.

      The more the Braves have to pay the better for the Dodgers and everyone else. And if Freeman wound up signing with them, it would help the first four years enough that they could live with him as a part-time DH in years 5-6.

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  23. Old York

    4 years ago

    Yomiuri Giants.

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  24. Angels & NL West

    4 years ago

    I love Freeman, but have never felt like there was a market for him at 6/180. I just don’t think anyone is going to get there. Nor do the Braves need to extend that far to re-sign him.

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    • ❤️ MuteButton

      4 years ago

      I don’t see the logic behind a lot of the contracts that are being handed out right now though. I’m an Astros fan, and obviously lots of teams would love to have him. At the same time, I’d hate to see Atlanta lose an icon.

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    • Herc33

      4 years ago

      The 6Y/200M and 5Y/135M are just negotiating numbers being thrown out by the two sides. The 6Y/180M projection kinda sits in between the two public numbers so while it seems high, it’s probably not terribly unrealistic in my view.

      It seems like a huge difference, but when you’re looking at the current numbers that each side has thrown out there, it’s really just 1 extra year and an AAV of $33.3M in Freeman’s ask as opposed to an AAV of $27M and a year less in the Braves offer, that separates the two sides.

      If you split the difference on the AAV to $30M and give him the 6th year, that’s right on the projection.

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  25. NickL 3

    4 years ago

    “DH is the ideal spot for Brandon Belt”. Why? He’s one of the Giants best defenders, and one of the best defensive first basemen in baseball and none of his injuries have been caused on defense.

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    • Tim Dierkes

      4 years ago

      That’s fair, but I do think DHing generally reduces injury risk, and he’s injury-prone.

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  26. JoeBrady

    4 years ago

    I don’t think anyone but Atlanta will seriously bid on his services. The only team with some money, and an opening, is probably the Yankees, but they have other needs to consider, and are already over the cap.

    The minimum years, outside of a crazy AAV, would be 6 years, if a team wants to outbid the Braves. The era of 37 year old 1B/DH players is likely in the past.

    But given that I had to choose a team, I chose SD. It just felt like a Preller move. He’ll count on being to move Hosmer, and like everything else, it’ll blow up when he realizes that he has no leverage.

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    • BeforeMcCourt

      4 years ago

      So no one will seriously bid on Freeman, but you choose the team that has not one but two high priced veterans in the way? Hahaha okay Joe

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      • JoeBrady

        4 years ago

        That’s why I said it’s a Preller move. He had 4 2Bs on the roster last year, so why can’t he have 3 1Bs?

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          4 years ago

          Because after finishing just 6 games ahead of the Rockies, Preller is now going to have both ownership and a new field manager more involved in such decisions.

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  27. Dustyslambchops23

    4 years ago

    In order for most of these teams to be interested his price needs to fall. If it falls the advantage goes back to the braves, no team should want to overpay in year for a 32 year old first baseman.

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  28. HalosHeavenJJ

    4 years ago

    Never underestimate the likelihood of Arte signing a guy we don’t really need. OC native, MVP, does lots of charity work. That’s Arte’s type of guy.

    That said, I’ll take the Mariners in this case. There’s a job opening, payroll flexibility, and I think having a guy like Freeman around as you bring up a young core is a great thing. Plus he can visit his OC home/family a few times per year on road trips and play in the Cactus League where his family and friends can see him.

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  29. LordD99

    4 years ago

    I doubt the Yankees are trying to pry Freeman away from Atlanta, although I’m sure they checked in to kick the tires. They didn’t even make an offer on a SS, which they need. I don’t see them putting big money into a 1B‘man.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      Ho do you know that the Yankees did not previously make an offer to a shortstop, either Trevor Story or Andrelton Simmons, for example?

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  30. amk1920

    4 years ago

    Liberty Media is going to use the title as an excuse to not re-sign Freeman despite having Acuna and Albies on extremely team friendly deals.

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    • samthebravesfan

      4 years ago

      Liberty Mefia doesn’t care. They really don’t. It’s all up to Terry McGuirk.p

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      • stymeedone

        4 years ago

        Liberty Media, like most teams, has a budget. I would not say that offering to pay Freeman 27MM per, as a 1B, is an insult. Cron gives good bang for the buck for $8MM, and while Freeman is better, I question it being $19MM better. Sign Rizzo to a 2 yr, and spend the money elsewhere.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          4 years ago

          Put Freddie in Coors and you will see how much better he is than Cron. Just sayin’.

          To me, Cron is neither high nor low at $8 million for 2022. Freddie is a 32-33 million player for 2022.

          The issue is how much should the AAV go down if the number of years is 6 or more. I have no doubt Atlanta would pony up 5/150 for Freeman. He is popular with the fan base and he will probably continue to produce at a high level for 3-4 more years.

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  31. hersch

    4 years ago

    Not worth $20 M per season never mind $33 M per till the age of 38 that he wants. The only team that will give him that is Atlanta if AA is forced by ownership to do it. And Atlanta doesn’t have that type of ownership. So he’ll have to take less from someone else. And depending on how much they give him they could end up regretting it.

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  32. samthebravesfan

    4 years ago

    Anyone that wants to give him big money, great. He’s the best first baseman in Braves history and has a World Series. He can do whatever he wants now.

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    • 48-team MLB

      4 years ago

      Breaking the drought is great but we could use another title in the next three to five years.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      You say that now, but if the Mets give Freeman 7 years at 35 million per year and make Alonso the DH, I am not sure Atlanta fans will be as forgiving.

      But I see the odds of this as rather low.

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      • RunDMC

        4 years ago

        LOL…even ATL fans know he’s not worth that. Go for it! He’d be the Trojan horse that helps tune the tiny violin so many Mets fans love to play.

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  33. cleve1969

    4 years ago

    Yuli Gurriel use to play 3rd base before coming to the Astros … move Bregman to shortstop, Gurriel to 3rd base and sign Freeman for 1st base

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  34. padam

    4 years ago

    Dodgers or Yankees. Great fit for the Yanks with the short RF porch and ability to trade Voight. Dodgers as well, with Lux and Muncey being the casualties, though solid bench players.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      If Muncy regains his health he is no bench player, he plays 2B and 3B just fine. And Justin Turner is better suited to be a DH at this point in his career. The only issue for the Dodgers is the amount of money and the length of the contract, not fitting him into the lineup. Trading top prospects for Olson makes more sense for the Dodgers. Atlanta is the natural place for Freeman to end up.

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  35. tercera_base

    4 years ago

    Voted for funsies, but there is no better fit for player or team than Atlanta.

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  36. lumber and lighting

    4 years ago

    SD would be scary if they could figure out what to do with Hosmer and Myers and land Freeman.

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  37. 48-team MLB

    4 years ago

    NEW POLL: Which team will the Braves beat for their next World Series title?

    A) White Sox

    B) Yankees

    C) Rangers

    D) Red Sox

    E) Mariners

    F) Tigers

    G) Rays

    H) Blue Jays

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    • msqboxer

      4 years ago

      None….because they aren’t going to be in it.

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      • 48-team MLB

        4 years ago

        I’m pretty sure they just won it all. They have a great chance of being in another World Series sometime this decade.

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    • tercera_base

      4 years ago

      H)opefully the Jays

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      Las Vegas

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  38. kingbum

    4 years ago

    I picked the Padres….adding Freeman would give San Diego one hell of an infield. Tatis Jr, Machado, and Freeman in the middle of your lineup? It will compensate some for how their pitching fell apart because of injuries last year. The Giants are not as good as they played last year and San Diego is not as bad as they finished.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      I think every team is as good or as bad as their actual record. But it is fair to say that the Padres injuries to starting pitchers is partly poor acquisition decision-making and partly bad luck. But the Padres are not going to add that much to their payroll. They might be able to unload Wil Myers but Hosmer is not going anywhere unless the Padres pay 75% of his contract or, worse yet, throw in CJ Abrams. That won’t happen and Freeman won’t be a Brave. The Padres would sooner trade Abrams, Hassell, Gore and Lange, for Olson, Manea and Bassitt. And the As but not the Padres would ok that deal.

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  39. stymeedone

    4 years ago

    There’s a big difference between needing a 1B, and having $30MM+ per year to spend on the easiest position to fill on the diamond (unless you’re the Yankees). Just move Sanchez to 1B and see if he’s worth $8MM there. C are cheaper.

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  40. ammiel

    4 years ago

    San Francisco need to replace Posey’s bat. This is one of the clear options that they must consider, especially if the NL gets the DH slot.

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  41. acmeants

    4 years ago

    Good grief. Give t a rest. Freeman will sign when the lockout is over. We don’t need more speculation.

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    • acmeants

      4 years ago

      Give it a rest. I’m watching football till the lockout is over.

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    • JoeBrady

      4 years ago

      We don’t need more speculation.
      ======================================
      How ironic that someone signs onto a site whose name contains the word ‘rumors’, and says we shouldn’t speculate.

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  42. miltpappas

    4 years ago

    The fact that people have voted Pirates, Orioles and Marlins makes this an entertaining poll.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      It is possible, but I doubt that ownership changes could be approved in time. Because the present owners of those teams are not spending that kind of money on Freeman.

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  43. leftcoaster

    4 years ago

    There’s no way the Dodgers would agree to a 6 year contract with a 32 year old. Check them off the list.

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    • NashvilleJeff

      4 years ago

      leftcoaster: In their 12 year deal, LA has Betts signed through age 39. From age 32 – 39 he’ll earn 350 mill in salary (including the 5 mill per year signing bonuses.) So they actually already HAVE “agreed to a 6 year contract with a 32 year old.” They’ve even got Mookie for a 7th year that takes him to age 39. That 350 mill that Mookie will “earn” is approximately twice as much as Freeman is reportedly seeking (if his demands for 6 @180 mill are accurate) for the same age/time period that Betts is under contract (not quite because 32.5 mill is due Betts for his age 39 season). I’m a Braves fan, btw, so I’m not an LA homer trying to justify a Dodger signing of FF. Just refuting your “logic” that LA should be “crossed off the list.”

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        4 years ago

        Plus Atlanta has the toughest post-season competition for the Dodgers the last two years, you are not just improving the Dodgers in 2022, you are also making the Braves weaker. Especially if most of the free agents have signed by the time the Dodgers sign Freeman.

        But I put the percentage at 90% that Freeman re-signs with the Atlanta and about 2% that he signs with the Dodgers. By the way, that does make the Dodgers the team I see second most likely to sign Freeman.

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  44. AlienBob

    4 years ago

    Freeman is a west coast guy raised in LA. If he leaves Atlanta I think it would be for a west coast team.

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    • 48-team MLB

      4 years ago

      If he actually does leave then I think it’s Seattle. I think he wants to stay in Atlanta though.

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  45. lumber and lighting

    4 years ago

    Dodgers 3 yrs 100 million.Overpay with less long term risk.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 years ago

      No chance that anyone will get Freeman for that sum. None.

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  46. phillyballers

    4 years ago

    If the Phil’s could build a trade of Rhys for a CF, they could go after Freddie and still potentially target Bryant. Just stick about in LF, Pat did it and he was terrible in the field. Stupid money right? Just put some sandbags out at short it would be the same as DiDi.

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    • 48-team MLB

      4 years ago

      Why would he want to be known as Phreddie Phreeman when Freddie Freeman has already made a name for himself?

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  47. Tomahawk Takeover

    4 years ago

    The answer is very simple. He’s a Braves lifer. There’s your article.

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  48. Dorothy_Mantooth

    4 years ago

    Freddie Freeman decided 8 years ago to take the money (8/$135M) rather than bet on himself and become a free agent in his late 20’s. You certainly can’t fault him for doing so, but after seeing what these younger free agents who waited through arbitration are getting paid, it seems like Freddie asking for $30M over 6 years at age 32 is his way of trying to recoup some of the money he ‘lost’ by signing a long term extension during his arbitration years. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way. He really should get Goldschmidt money (maybe $2M more per year) but he’s digging his heels in on that 6 year term and large AAV too. Good for him if he gets it but I don’t see it happening. $135M is a huge amount of money, but you’d have to say that the Braves ‘won’ on that early contract extension.

    I foresee a similar approach coming from Wander Franco when his mega-contract extension expires. He going to see Soto get close to $500M as a free agent and he’s going to want a piece of that pie too when his deal is up. It’s just not going to happen. He locked in life changing money at age 20. He too will be a free agent at age 32 and won’t be able to match the other mega-salaries signed between now and then. I can’t blame either Freddie or Wander for locking in a 9 figure deal at such a young age. For the few that end up having this work against them (Acuna, Albies, Freeman etc.) there are countless Nomar Garciaparra stories of players who turned down this life changing money early on, only to see them get hurt or tail off and they never came close to matching those original offers again. Freddie should feel blessed that he’s still going strong at age 32, but he also needs to set the proper expectations for his next contract given his age and his earlier decision to lock in on an 8 year deal prior to becoming a free agent.

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    • NashvilleJeff

      4 years ago

      Agree with you that the “Braves “won” on that early contract extension”, but at the time the Braves and FF agreed on that deal, it made him the highest paid 1Bman ever at that point/age in an MLB career. Read that recently, so I could be mistaken—-but I don’t think so. Think the source was Talking Chop, iirc.

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  49. dsett75

    4 years ago

    As I’ve said for weeks now, I think Freeman already has a 6-year offer on the table. He’s just giving Atlanta the respect by waiting for them to offer the 6th year because it’s home to him. So he’s going to give them every chance, at least until some team threatens to pull their offer off the table. I think that’ll be when Freeman finally gives Atlanta the now or never ultimatum. So, I STILL think he’ll resign with the Braves. I picked San Francisco in the poll. Them, Milwaukee & the Cubs would be heavily improved with him. He’d look great in a Tigers uniform too & as a Tigers fan, I’d absolutely love it, but there’s no way Detroit is signing him even if he was determined to leave Atlanta.

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      4 years ago

      He may very well have received a 6 year offer from someone but I doubt it was for the full $180M he is seeking. 6/$150M feels like the absolute ceiling for him, with $30M-$35M per year over the first couple of years and then declining salaries as the deal (and Freddie) ages. I’ll be shocked if he’s able to find the full 6/$180M he’s looking for at age 32.

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      • dsett75

        4 years ago

        Dorothy, if Castellanos gets the ridiculous 7 that he’s asking for, then teams should be lining up to give FF 6, imho.

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          4 years ago

          Not disputing he could get the 6 year term from Atlanta or another team but I highly doubt he gets $30M per year over the full 6 years. I equate it to the DJ LeMahieu deal. He too wanted 6 years from the Yankees (and got it) but he had to settle on a lower AAV to get that 6 year term.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        4 years ago

        Marcus Semien got 7 years, $175 million. Freeman is one year older at a less demanding defensive position, although he plays it really well. Over the past three years, the pair have hit, cumulatively, roughly the same number of homers but Freeman hits for a much higher average and has a much longer track record of success. So I could see a team offer 6 or even 7 years for Freeman. To me, Freeman is worth $30 million per year in years 1-5 and $10 million per year for year 6, and $5 million for year 7. So I would be ok with offering 5 years/$150 million, with a player option of $10 million for year 6, and a player option of $5 million for year 7.

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  50. mrnotsoniceguy

    4 years ago

    Wait, Belt should be a DH?! The hilarity!! One of the best fielding 1b in baseball should be a DH? Lmaoo. Btw, his injuries have come from hitting, nothing to do with fielding.
    .

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    • dsett75

      4 years ago

      Good thing you added the injury explanation in there cuz I was about to comment that very thing, lol. Still, injury prone is probably how evaluators are looking at it. Although, I’m sure that the little “statistician” that stands behind the GM in the conference room has mentioned how/why Belt gets injured, lol.

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    • Tomahawk Takeover

      4 years ago

      Freeman is as good on defense as Belt if not better. If you get great defense either way, you move the player with health issues to DH. It’s just common sense.

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  51. dsett75

    4 years ago

    If Castellanos wants 7 years, and as a Tigers fan, I appreciate what he’s accomplished so far, then teams should be lining up to give Freeman 6, imho. It’ll be interesting to see if Castellanos gets it.

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  52. thickiedon

    4 years ago

    Let’s see the bidding war for Olson play out first.

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  53. GarryHarris

    4 years ago

    Freddie Freeman will return to Atlanta.

    He would be a perfect fit for Milwaukee and I think he would put them over the top. Their already great defense would be improved with Freeman at 1B and his left handed bat would eliminate their biggest weakness in their offense.

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  54. lumber and lighting

    4 years ago

    I couldn’t stop thinking about Freeman’s options tonite at work.So I looked at every team.San Diego would be very scary and might be a favorite in Vegas to get a ring.Ditto with the Dodgers,Brewers,& Braves.If I’m Freddie I’m kinda pissed i undervalued myself with ATL.Now it’s time for them to step again after he brought the city another WS.They didn’t step immediately and I think Freeman feels disrespected.I predict he takes the biggest offer and never gives ATL a chance to match those dollars.Too freaking late!

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  55. lumber and lighting

    4 years ago

    Bean will cash in on every assets.Ownership will make him be compliant with the budget.Does he trade for prospects or yrs of control and try to stay competitive?His best player and best starting pitcher & bullpen option.Plus a 3b looking for a comeback who has shown signs of his stroke coming back and a bunch of pitching.His trade values are so good he might get a mlb ready and prospects in return.Nobody would blame him if he went with prospects only and rebuild his minors system.Dudes brilliant,they made a movie about him.Ideas?

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      4 years ago

      @lumber & lightening…bonified screen name and I thoroughly enjoy your posts , cheers.

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  56. Texas Outlaw

    4 years ago

    What if the Padres trade Hosmer and a young pitcher to the Rangers and sign Freeman?

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    • RunDMC

      4 years ago

      Better be a darn good pitcher with deep pockets SD can fill with gobs of money to counteract those 5 years left on Hosmer’s deal. Does TEX really need a pitching prospect that badly to take on an average 1B worth 1-WAR/season? Why not just sign Schwarber who is younger and comes with a higher ceiling and lower cost?

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  57. msqboxer

    4 years ago

    I previously posted that the CWS would sign him….I have come to my senses and realized that the CWS won’t sign someone outside of the organization for $100+M.

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  58. Ignorant Son-of-a-b

    4 years ago

    Freeman’s obvious home is Atlanta but if that doesn’t happen he would look perfect in pinstripes. Yanks add Correa and lookie lookie you’re going to the World Series. That’s how George Steinbrenner would have gamed it out.

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    • Rsox

      4 years ago

      But its not how Hal Steinbrenner would.

      I don’t see the Yankees signing either Freeman or Correa, let alone both. These Yankees are not likely to carry four $30+ million per year salaries when they are so worried about staying below the luxury tax.

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  59. AlienBob

    4 years ago

    My gut tells me Freeman would do more to boost the Mariners offense than any of the other alternatives. SD, LAD, NYY and SFG all have pretty good offensive lineups now. Freeman would certainly help these teams but doesn’t have the impact of replacing the 40 HR’s the M’s lost by Kyle Seager’s departure. Freeman would also bring veteran leadership to a rather young Mariners team. Still, I think it unlikely he goes to Seattle. Certainly, Dipoto and his staff are so tight lipped we will not know it is being considered until after it happens.

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    • 48-team MLB

      4 years ago

      Honestly I don’t see why he would want to leave Atlanta if they’re offering him at least $150 million. That’s still a great contract and the Braves are in contention every year now. Plus, he could be the Chipper Jones of this generation by staying with Atlanta for his entire career…and he has a chance to surpass Jones in World Series titles in this city.

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      • AlienBob

        4 years ago

        @48
        The only reasons I could see him leaving are:
        1. a blow out offer from another club ATL will not match or
        2. he wants to be closer to his off season home in LA..

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  60. 48-team MLB

    4 years ago

    Thoughts on this kind of deal? It might be an overpay but that might be what it takes…

    Seven years/$190 million

    Years 1-5: $30 million per year

    Years 6-7: $20 million per year

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    • AlienBob

      4 years ago

      @48
      Despite their recent success the M’s haven’t made the playoffs in 20 years. Freeman wants to play for a winner. He would need to be convinced they could get there. So, if the M’s sign Seiya Suzuki and they sign a good SP2 to pair with Robbie Ray, then maybe he sees himself as the last piece of a championship team. He is already on a championship team. So the offer would have to push him to change teams especially if we are talking about the Mariners as the landing spot. I could see 6/$180 if Atlanta will not go there.

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  61. cheapgm4hire

    4 years ago

    I’m a Braves fan who hopes Freeman takes a hike & I’m not alone.

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    • 48-team MLB

      4 years ago

      I want whatever is best for the team’s chances to win another World Series. Freeman would definitely take up a lot of payroll and he’s on the wrong side of 30 but Atlanta has no legitimate first base prospects and trading for Olson would likely require an overpay in prospects and then he would be a free agent after only a couple of years.

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