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Padres, Mets Reportedly Stalled On Hosmer Trade Talks

By TC Zencka | April 2, 2022 at 4:57pm CDT

4:57PM: Jon Heyman of MLB Network reports that talks may have stalled entirely after the two sides “hit a snag” in negotiations.  Sherman is even more blunt, saying the proposed trade “is not going to happen.”

8:50 AM: A potential deal between the two sides would be a little more complex than initially presumed. Per Joel Sherman of the New York Post (via Twitter), the Padres would unsurprisingly need to eat a fair amount of the money owed to Hosmer in order to make this deal work. Specifically, the Padres would cover roughly $30MM or more of Hosmer’s deal, bringing Hosmer’s per annum down to $6-7MM per year, per Sherman.

The Mets would also get reliever Emilio Pagan in the deal. Pagan has at times looked like a premier bullpen arm during his five seasons in the bigs with the Mariners, Rays, A’s, and Padres. The 30-year-old is an option to close games if he stays in San Diego, whereas in New York he would slot into a fairly deep collection of right-handed setup arms that includes Adam Ottavino, Drew Smith, Miguel Castro, Trevor May, and Seth Lugo.

7:55 AM: The Mets have spent the offseason pushing full-bore towards fielding a competitive squad, but the fragility of an offseason win became clear yesterday with the news of ace Jacob deGrom being shut down for the next four weeks. The panic alarm has sounded, but the Mets are not without solutions.

In fact, they just so happen to have been in conversation with the Padres for the past couple of weeks about different trade scenarios, at least one of which could bring another arm to New York to help plug the leak. Per The Athletic’s Dennis Lin, Ken Rosenthal, and others, a potential deal could center around Eric Hosmer and Chris Paddack heading to the Mets, while Dominic Smith would go to San Diego.

The Padres have been trying to move off of Hosmer’s money for quite some time now, and the freewheeling Mets may now have a big enough need in the rotation to consider taking him back. There’s some urgency for the Padres here, as Hosmer’s partial no-trade clause turns into full 10-and-5 rights at the end of this season. Of course, if he is traded, Hosmer’s contract has a clause that says he cannot be traded twice without his consent, so he will essentially get his no-trade clause by the end of the 2022 campaign regardless for whom he plays.

With $59MM over four years left on his deal, Hosmer does not have positive trade value – not after fWAR totals of 0.0, 0.9, -0.3, and -0.1 over the past four seasons. Entering his age-32 season, one doesn’t expect Hosmer to flourish overnight. Furthermore, the Mets absolutely have no need for him, not with Pete Alonso on the roster.

Acquiring Hosmer would mean pushing the Mets deeper into luxury tax territory with a payroll nearing $300MM, notes Joel Sherman of the New York Post. The Mets might be willing to take him if they can reinforce their rotation at the same time, however.

Enter Paddack. The 26-year-old has three years of team control remaining and significant upside. He’s far from a sure thing, however. His numbers declined for the third consecutive season last year when he finished with a 5.07 ERA across 108 1/3 innings. A slightly torn UCL might be the cause of the decline, but that’s not necessarily a situation that has totally resolved itself. Paddack would, therefore, be an option to slide into deGrom’s rotation spot, but he’s far from a panacea for the Mets’ long-term concerns.

In the short term, he might not even be an upgrade over Tylor Megill, the presumptive fifth starter in deGrom’s absence. Megill posted a 4.52 ERA/4.69 FIP over 18 starts covering 89 2/3 innings in 2021 – his first taste of big league action. The Mets could certainly begin the season with Megill in the rotation and see how things go from there.

For the Padres part, their motivation would mostly be to shed Hosmer’s contract. They have enough rotation depth, theoretically, to weather the loss of Paddack, and in Smith, they’d be getting back a comparable bat that’s cheaper, more versatile, and with more theoretical upside than Hosmer. He’s also under team control for two more seasons beyond 2022, though those seasons aren’t guaranteed, should he continue to struggle at the dish.

For the first part of his career, the story on Smith was that he needed at-bats, but his natural position of first base was spoken for, so his ceiling was no more than that of a bit player. Then the designated hitter came to the NL in 2020, Smith starting taking flyballs in left field, and the offensive promise came to fruition with a .316/.377/.616 line over 199 plate appearances during the shortened campaign.

He again saw fairly stable playing time in 2021, but the numbers cratered to an 86 wRC+ by way of a  .244/.304/.363 line across  494 plate appearances , more than doubling his previous career-high in that regard. The Padres do need a left fielder, and Smith could step right in at first base were this deal to go down. Still, for San Diego, this deal is mostly about moving off of Hosmer. There are options out there for left field – including former Met Michael Conforto – but Smith would certainly be worth rostering if acquiring him meant removing Hosmer from the payroll.

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  1. Rsk3228

    3 years ago

    This is a no-brainer for the Mets. Addresses their pitching depth question for no downside except for money. Cohen has already shown he doesn’t care about spending money.

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    • bravesfan

      3 years ago

      I mean, it’s not a smart move. Lol. I suppose if money is never an issue, no brainer. But that’s a lot of money committed to a guy that has been terrible for a while now and can only play 2 positions (1B and DH). Paying him that much to sit the bench would be a nightmare. If I’m the Mets, I’d rather keep smith and find another trade partner to fill a rotation spot. Plus, I think CP is legit, but he’s been a bit brutal the last two years. So absorbing that much money for a guy who may struggle significantly and have a 5+ era is hard to take.

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      • Ma4170

        3 years ago

        It would be a terrible move by the mets

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          3 years ago

          I’m thinking it’s more the Mets doing their due diligence. Expect they will get another pitcher but not having to saddle themselves financially. Even if they can, why? They can use their chips elsewhere.

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      • CHS O'sFan

        3 years ago

        I’ve got to imagine that those are the MLB names being considered but there’s more to the deal including prospects from SD. Could also get a 3rd team involved too, especially an Oakland type that could send Manaea to NYM get Paddack and a prospect from SD plus maybe something from the Mets too.

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      • rundmc1981

        3 years ago

        Ironic that they were considering another dead contract (Cano) some time at 1B and this will be a mighty — hold my beer moment — bringing in Hosmer’s dead weight. And for Chris Paddack…?? Gore? Sure. This won’t end well.

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        • AJ the Rastaman

          3 years ago

          zero chance in hell you’re getting gore, abrams or hassell. put down the crack pipe. if Preller is that dumb, that’s a fireable offense.

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        • Noel1982

          3 years ago

          Dom smith has net zero trade value and that’s what he’s about to get back in this trade

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      • Chin Music

        3 years ago

        Becomes less bad if Padres eat a bunch of money

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      • rocky7

        3 years ago

        Bad move by the Mets….Paddock hasn’t shown anything but inconsistency through the last 2 years with no reason to believe he’s figured anything out plus you let the Rock Star GM of the hook on a player he’s been trying to trade since signing him to a ridiculous contract based on his skill set…….the Mets would be better off playing with what they have and staying close enough to pounce on much better pitching once teams play enough games to realize they are out of it again and look to shed money for assets.

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        • closetball

          3 years ago

          “Rock Star” GM equivalent…. Electric Light Overpay? Bad Company Contract?

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      • libertyfighter

        3 years ago

        At $6 or $7 million per annum, Hosmer would be a cheap DH option and have some value. Paddack has potential to bust out as a Pitcher.

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        • rocky7

          3 years ago

          I don’t think the Mets need another “cheap” DH “option” in Hosmer who the Padres have been falling over themselves trying to trade for at least the last 3-4 seasons….couldn’t the Padres afford a “cheap option at DH in Hosmer….no they don’t want him which is a big blinking RED light as far as this guy is concerned.
          And as far as Paddack…whouda, couda shoulda….as a replacement for DeGrom he pales in comparison and hasn’t shown anything bu inconsistancy over the last 2+ seasons….5+ ERA…Please tell me there are better options as teams break camp.

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        • User 2079935927

          3 years ago

          3 or 4 years? You’re saying the Padres have been trying to trade Hosmer since the 1st year they signed him? Not likely Bub.

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        • ukpadre

          3 years ago

          They haven’t, but they should have been. The only people who thought that Hosmer was worth signing were in the Padres org. Everyone else was saying what a stupid move it was. Now the hens have come home to roost. If the Mets get Paddack and he can find his groove again, for what is essentially some money, they will be very happy.

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        • Cosmo2

          3 years ago

          I’d guess that the Mets would just release Hosmer. He adds nothing, although I guess you could say he’d replace Smith in this scenario.

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      • phenomenalajs

        3 years ago

        If SD is paying half his salary, it’s not a terrible move for the Mets. I’m not positive that gets them into the final luxury tax tier if their cost is $6M-$7M per year. I’m guessing Smith and Paddack’s costs offset though I don’t know how much Pagan makes. Of course, it’d be wonderful if the Friars took Canó instead of paying down Hosmer’s contract in the deal, but that’s a pipedream.

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        • agentx

          3 years ago

          A better deal to me would be Canó, Smith, and a prospect or two to San Diego for Myers, Paddack, Pagan, Hosmer, and enough cash to make it an even-money deal so far as the Canó + Smith and Myers + Hosmer contracts are concerned.

          Canó for two more years in that scenario really would not be any worse to San Diego than Hosmer for another four.

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        • SoCalBrave

          3 years ago

          if it’s even money, why would the Padres do that deal?
          Make their team worse, the Mets better and financially be on the same boat?

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        • Cg141

          3 years ago

          They prob believe Dom Smith has a higher ceiling than Paddock

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      • Oddball Hererra

        3 years ago

        It’s not a half bad way to get pitching depth if you would rather spend money than prospects

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      • Confortoismyspiritanimal

        3 years ago

        6-7M for a bench player isn’t a bad deal. Padres would cover 30M.

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    • Mystery Team

      3 years ago

      No brainer for the Mets?? Lol!! This would be about as bad of a move as possible for the Mets. Yeah sure take on another horrible contract when they’re just about done with the horrible contract they took on with Cano. I get that it’s nice to have an owner that’s willing to spend but there comes a point that it crosses the line into stupidity. Paddack has done nothing to warrant taking Hosmer as well just to get him and I mean nothing. I don’t get the fascination with Paddack in trade talks not one bit. The Padres would do this deal in a second and then once it’s done I’m sure they’d all have a great laugh at the Met’s expense. I question Met fans that think it’s a good idea. Like where are your heads at? Paddack is NOT going to relieve the loss of deGrom not even close in fact I’m willing to bet the fan base would be destroying him within a month.

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      • Hurricane Sandy

        3 years ago

        Good point. Paddack also famously started useless beef with Pete Alonso over who should be rookie of the “month” back in 2019, So he’s already marked. That would seem to indicate that he is easily flustered and perhaps not a great fit here.

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        • Mystery Team

          3 years ago

          It’s crazy right? I look at his numbers and he’s had one small stretch at the start of his career but other than that he’s not even average. He’s a long relief guy at best.

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        • Noel1982

          3 years ago

          Jd davis and dom smith are medicos talents ve geen trying to say for the longest time nobody wants to trade anything of value for mediocrity! I say Padres lose the trade if anything by taking on dom smith no matter how much money they shed

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        • Mystery Team

          3 years ago

          The Mets would gain literally Hosmer’s contract and nothing else so how can you see a Met’s win here? Mind boggling to say the least. Paddack brings nothing but a good chance of hitting the IL or pitching like garbage. Dom Smith is a better hitter than Hosmer right now and costs pennies in comparison. The Padres have found a team even more desperate than they are and are trying to pounce like a cat on a mouse. The funniest part is that the Mets will win nothing again this year. Make no mistake even if deGrom doesn’t get hurt they still win nothing. Mets gonna Met that’s what they do.

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        • Cosmo2

          3 years ago

          They’re not mediocre talent, they’re both very good. Problem is they have limited use. Both bat first, first base only guys. They’re good, but what they are is like the least valuable commodity.

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        • closetball

          3 years ago

          Problem is he only uses 2 pitches. And his bread and butter is a letter high fat ball. What could go wrong?

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      • ukpadre

        3 years ago

        The Mets aren’t trying to relive the loss of De Grom, and I don’t know how any fan with half a brain can think that. There is no replacing him – you can’t just go out and get another ace at this stage of the spring. What they are trying to do is minimise the impact by improving their back end and depth, which is a smart move. This would be a good deal for the Mets and a poor one for the Pads (but they’ve put themselves in this position so they deserve it).

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      • DrDan75

        3 years ago

        Paddack is one of those guys who has some talent but doesn’t appear to be able to make the necessary adjustments when the hitters start to figure him out. He really has just two pitches, fastball and changeup. He doesn’t have a good breaking pitch with a healthy spin on it that he can use to get hitters to chase. So, they just wait for something in the zone, then whack it hard once they get it.

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        • Brew88

          3 years ago

          So Dan, how do expect the Pads to trade him for value when you keep telling the truth, eh?

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    • teddyk

      3 years ago

      Not sure how this is a no brainer. Paddack has not looked good at all as a SP outside his first full season, players adjusted and he couldn’t due to the fact that he is lacking a quality 3rd pitch. He is a future bullpen arm just impersonating a starting pitcher at this moment. Hosmer is a shell of what he was toward the end of his KC days both with the bat and defensively. Pagan has been subpar since he left TB. Yes it isn’t costing them top prospects to do this deal but does it really help them? I think not. I would hang the phone up with Preller and get Billy Beane on the phone ASAP to land either Montas or Manaea.

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      • Mystery Team

        3 years ago

        They’d have to give up the few prospects worth anything in their organization to get either one of those two. At some point they have to stop being dumb and making dumb moves. Their tax penalties are going to push their payroll to the moon making a title, if they’re lucky enough to win one look almost foolish. Robert Kraft Steve Cohen is not. He comes off as incredibly naive in the world of sports. He’s like a little kid with a huge bank account. If we can’t do it the right way I’ll just buy the title outright, who should I make the check out to?

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        • Noel1982

          3 years ago

          Mets fans didn’t want to believe me when I said they would hate any jd davis or dom smith trade ! Those guys are irrelevant! You can find them anywhere

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      • Javia135

        3 years ago

        You do realize that Montas and Manaea will be exponentially more expensive, right? Dom Smith doesn’t get you close to either one.

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      • Cosmo2

        3 years ago

        Yea it’s basically trading Smith and taking on Hosmer in exchange for Pagan and a young SP who looks like a bust. No brainer? I think not.

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    • ChrisMonte

      3 years ago

      Oh god no don’t do this

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    • carlos15

      3 years ago

      This move is dumb, you get a first baseman you don’t need, who isn’t good and is owed a ton of money. In return you get a team controlled starter who is coming off of 2 bad seasons. And all you have to give up is a team controlled player who can hit and play multiple positions. None of this makes sense to do.

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      • Mystery Team

        3 years ago

        There’s fans on this thread that think it’s a good idea lol. Meth is a hell of a drug.

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        • Padres2019ha

          3 years ago

          Can’t spell Meth w out Met

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        • tstats

          3 years ago

          Cant spell Padre without Dre, what’s your point here, that the padres have Dre inside of them?

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    • seamaholic 2

      3 years ago

      What on earth would you do with Hos? Cut him?

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      • Cosmo2

        3 years ago

        Could cut him. But if you trade Smith His could be the lefty off the bench. (Of course that defeats half the purpose of trading Smith who is already a bit of a redundancy).

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  2. jt33nym

    3 years ago

    I’d be curious to see if there are some other pieces involved if they make a deal happen. Not quite sure where Hosmer would fit into the Mets plans with Cano at DH and Alonso at first.

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    • jim stem

      3 years ago

      @jt33
      Agreed, I think a 3rd team would have to be involved where the Mets, if they could grab two of the Padres YOUNG bullpen arms with Hosmer and his contract, then flip Hosmer (eating half his contract) to another team in return for some minor leaguers, then this might not be so bad.

      For instance: Washington currently has Josh Bell at 1b who is a natural DH. Nats need bats. Bring Finnegan to NY, give Vientos a good shot with Washington. Hmmm

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      • tstats

        3 years ago

        Wow that’s worse than the irl trade that’s happening…

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  3. Ha-Seong Kim

    3 years ago

    If the padres pull off Hosmer and paddack for dom smith, I will be shocked to say the least.

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    • mookiesboy

      3 years ago

      it would be horrible for Mets – another Cano deal

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      • Y2KAK

        3 years ago

        I had the same reaction

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        • Noel1982

          3 years ago

          Jd davis and dom smith have zero trade value bd they are bit players ! Mets didn’t turn down deals with one or both of them for Castillo or montas just to possibly make this dea! Smith and Davis aren’t any good

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        • seamaholic 2

          3 years ago

          Davis has trade value. He’s a born DH and that dude rakes.

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        • Mystery Team

          3 years ago

          Hosmer? That is all.

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        • Cosmo2

          3 years ago

          Oh stop with these exaggerations. They are both good players, especially Davis who has a good track record. There are reasons that they have low trade value but they are good players.

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      • Vegasnightlife

        3 years ago

        Dom smith is crap, if WAR is such a great stat to go by DS is -.7 and Hos is 1.0, rather have Hos, after this year Hos contract is 3/39…

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        • Cosmo2

          3 years ago

          It’s a good stat but you have to use it intelligently and not intentionally cherry pick data to make a point that isn’t there.

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  4. Hurricane Sandy

    3 years ago

    Under no circumstances should the Mets take on the last 4 years of Eric Hosmer’s contract, and especially not for a pitcher that is no guarantee to upgrade your rotation. Hosmer Doesn’t even fit this team, and I don’t even think he’s better than Dom Smith to begin with. Billy, please look elsewhere. Hopefully this was just floated out there by some Padres intern or something.

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    • Very Barry

      3 years ago

      Bad couple of days for Mets fans. DeGrom goes down with a serious injury ….. then news that the team is discussing a trade to acquire Eric Hosmer, and the 4 years, $59 million left on his contract.

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      • kc38

        3 years ago

        Thank you for just rewriting everything the article already said

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        • Hurricane Sandy

          3 years ago

          It was an impulsive fan reaction, Born out of this being the first thing I looked at this morning. I guess it was missing the 20 or so !!!!!!!!! Needed to indicate that it was a desperate fan reaction.

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    • rct

      3 years ago

      All three players are at their lowest value. However, with Hosmer, you know exactly what you’re getting, he’s not going to get any better, and he’s making a lot of money.

      With Paddack, there’s a high risk, high reward with some years of control but an injury history. Dom Smith, same deal but less of an injury history. He’d improved each year since he came to the big leagues and looked on the verge of really breaking out before last year’s disastrous performance.

      Overall, given Paddack’s injuries and back-to-back poor years, I think Smith has the best chnace to provide the most value going forward. He was uncharacteristically awful last year, but so were a number of other Mets hitters (McNeil, Conforto, etc), lending credence to the idea that it was an organizational issue. I could see him bouncing back pretty easily.

      Bottom line, I would not make this move if I were the Mets, even if the Padres pick up a bunch of Hosmer’s salary.

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  5. THE downvoter

    3 years ago

    Nightengale with more fake news???

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    • Brew88

      3 years ago

      Yep

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    • Brew88

      3 years ago

      I know, let’s talk about Hosmer some more

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  6. trog

    3 years ago

    Since Conforto has a QO attached to him, can MLB teams do sign and trades? Like if NYM signed him, could they ship him out to SD as part of a trade?

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    • Bearded Murloc

      3 years ago

      Free agents can’t signed this year can’t be traded until June

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      • bhambrave

        3 years ago

        I believe they can be, with the player’s permission. I could be wrong.

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        • Ma4170

          3 years ago

          I think you’re right on that

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    • windmill_noise_causes_cancer

      3 years ago

      sIgN aNd TrAdE

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    • sfes

      3 years ago

      Why would any team want to trade actual young talent for Conforto when they’re not even willing to give up a draft pick for him?

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  7. notnamed

    3 years ago

    mets bought a bigger shovel, to dig a deeper hole

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  8. joeyrocafella

    3 years ago

    Paddack isn’t worth the Hosmer contract. This may be a bit of an overreaction.

    There is a scenario tho where Paddack reaches his full potential in a rotation with Jake and Max, eventually.

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  9. Hurricane Sandy

    3 years ago

    Can’t we just let other teams sweat out their bad contracts for once??

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  10. Ma4170

    3 years ago

    This would be the worst trade for the Mets since dykstra and McDowell for Samuel… I wouldn’t trade Smith for either straight up… not sure why Eppler would even entertain this insanity

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    • ♪

      3 years ago

      But out of fairness, Dykstra’s performance with the Phillies was aided by steroid use.
      Dom Smith for just Paddack would be a good trade for the Mets. Paddack is still young with upside potential.

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      • rct

        3 years ago

        What I’m getting from this is that Dom Smith should start taking steroids.

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    • Pedro 4 Delino

      3 years ago

      Don smith isn’t worth paddock
      It’s not like teams are lining up for a DH who can’t hit.
      I understand not wanting Hosmer but getting rid of smith isn’t bringing back value unless the Mets take on a lot of $

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      • phenomenalajs

        3 years ago

        Don Smith might not be, but Dom Smith is. Dom is a good-fielding first baseman with an inconsistent bat. He might fare better at Petco Park than at Citi Field. I don’t know a lot about Petco Park, but if Bartolo Colon can hit the only home run of his career there at age 42, that should say something.

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      • Cosmo2

        3 years ago

        Dom plays first base and although he had an off year last year he was excellent prior to that. Even with his struggles last year and as a rookie he’s still a 104 OPS+. He can hit. A lot of misinformation in your post.

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  11. Sourhaze

    3 years ago

    DeGrom has a bum arm and now they wanna trade for another bum arm and take an añbatross contract like Cano isn’t enough.

    Lol mets and I’m a mets fan. WTF

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      Do they really WANT to do this or is this just a rumor? We don’t know what they are thinking just what some reporter thinks he scooped. Nine out of ten times it amounts to nothing yet still fans panic or ridicule every rumor as if rumors aren’t most often false.

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  12. Moonlight Graham

    3 years ago

    This would be good for Dom Smith, but that’s about it. I’m not sure what the Paddack appeal is—he hasn’t been good since the first two months of his rookie year.

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    • solaris602

      3 years ago

      With his numbers trending downward and a partially torn ACL, Paddack would probably join deGrom on the IL a week after arriving.

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  13. beyou02215

    3 years ago

    As a Padres fan, I’d be down with that. Finally she’d done it that Hosmer contract. Can they use the savings for Conforto?

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    • beyou02215

      3 years ago

      Finally shed some of that…. Goodness!

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    • 377194

      3 years ago

      If I were a Padres fan, I too would be thrilled. It’s a steal.

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    • phenomenalajs

      3 years ago

      Padres would likely be paying for half of it.

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  14. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    3 years ago

    If it was Myers and Paddack, that would make more sense. It’d be super desperate of the Mets to take on nearly $60M of dead money to get Paddack, not to mention losing a capable hitter.

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      So if they trade Myers, that would make Profar the RF and Beaty the LF, but it makes more sense?

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      • Pedro 4 Delino

        3 years ago

        He means for the Mets. Most feel it’s an overpay for NY to take hosmers contract

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        • phenomenalajs

          3 years ago

          The Mets would most likely be taking half of his contract with the Padres paying the rest. The Padres are worried about his reaching 10-5 status with them which would give him a full no-trade clause.

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    • CHS O'sFan

      3 years ago

      Agreed. Myers would make a good bit of sense in this deal if Dom Smith goes the other way though I would say it that likely NYM may have to add a prospect albeit a low tier one to make the scales even. Paddack has a good bit more value than Smith (SP vs 1B type) and Myers doesn’t hold too much negative value.

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      • Javia135

        3 years ago

        The Padres aren’t trading the only RF on their 40-man roster to save the Mets $10 million dollars.

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  15. raisinsss

    3 years ago

    Makes a little sense. But just a little… Need some $ as well though.

    Would prefer one of the A’s starters but might be cost prohibitive.

    Like Paddacks upside for sure, but hate to sell low on Dom. You’d also be taking ABs from JD / Cano presumably.

    I’d hope there are more/other pieces here. Or maybe this is just posturing for the A’s…

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    • CHS O'sFan

      3 years ago

      A 3 way trade where the Padres send out Hosmer to NYM, a prospect or Paddack to OAK and OAK sends Manaea or Montas to NYM would be an interesting framework.

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      • SoCalBrave

        3 years ago

        Manea or Montas would take a hell of a lot more than Paddack or a prospect. Bean will probably hang up the phone if he hears the name Paddack.

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      • vtadave

        3 years ago

        No, actually it wouldn’t.

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  16. Robrock30

    3 years ago

    I smell the reek of desperation emanating from Flushing this AM. LOL

    That Huge Flushing Sound you are hearing is the Mets Season being over with the unsurprising DeGrom news, Shocking

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      Amazing to me how terribly adults can misconstrue the slightest bit of information. There is no desperation here, it’s a trade rumor. Chill.

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  17. Metscansuckthis

    3 years ago

    Haha. The Mets. They haven’t don’t it yet, but if they’re past is any indicator they’re gonna do something really dumb. Taking on that Hosmer contract is right up their alley. I just don’t see the potential upside on Paddack being worth that kind of a burden.

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    • phenomenalajs

      3 years ago

      It’d be half the burden with the Padres eating the other half.

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  18. Ha-Seong Kim

    3 years ago

    Cmon Steve Cohen make it happen for all us met fans out here

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    • Gwynning

      3 years ago

      Agreed! Us Mets fans need Paddack in our rotation and wouldn’t mind seeing a half price Hos at first base! Fingers crossed by us Mets fans this gets done today! >.<

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      • Ha-Seong Kim

        3 years ago

        #MetNation

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      • barryr

        3 years ago

        Speak for yourself. This will be a terrible trade. Hosmer is worthless and there is no evidence that either pitcher being discussed is even an effective major leaguer. Paddack had two good months and hasn’t been good since. Pagan gave up 16 HR in 63 IP last year – you really want that coming out of the bullpen?

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    • Cg141

      3 years ago

      Keep Dom all it takes is one position player injury and then we need Dom.

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  19. bravesfan

    3 years ago

    Smith is good enough to trade for almost anyone else with a 5+ era and not having to absorb a massive contract in the meantime. No reason for the Mets to take this commitment and hope for upside from a pitcher that hasn’t pitched well in 2 years

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  20. yup 2

    3 years ago

    Horrible trade for Mets, go back to Oakland and get a real pitcher. Where does Hosmer fit in here, much rather keep Dom Smith, he can bring in a better pitcher if the Mets really want to trade him.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      I think Mets fans overrate Smith because they’ve seen him rake for brief stretches, but he’s a DH at best. I think the return is fair, but taking on the Hosmer contract would be foolish.

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      • Ma4170

        3 years ago

        Disagree… he was one of the best hitters in baseball 2019-20… sure it was only 175ab each season, but it’s there… he played hurt all last year… he’s a good fielding 1b when he plays regularly (not where this idea came from he can’t field)… this would be selling low at its worst, and paddack doesn’t have upside, I’m sorry… and Hosmer is trash… you tell me Myers and morejon? Maybe then I think about it… otherwise, keep Smith and watch him bounce back

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          Exactly what I mean though. You saw him rake briefly in a shortened season. He struggled last year. I think he’s a DH/1B type. Mets already have Alonso. Smith isn’t needed.

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        • rct

          3 years ago

          I think it depends on why Smith struggled last year. Was it injuries? Was it the same organizational approach (that several players complained about as too confusing, too inconsistent, and too reliant on analytics) that led to other players struggling last year? Or was it just Smith regressing to his mean, and he’s not actually that good of a player? I tend to think it’s a combination of the first two and not the last one.

          Plus, Dom is a good glove at first and can (mostly) adequately play the outfield. There’s value there.

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      • jim stem

        3 years ago

        @Von
        I respectfully disagree, but can only speak for one Mets fan.

        Dom is a FAR superior glove at first. Pete is passable because he works hard at his defense and hits 40 homers.

        Dom makes the entire infield better and probably saves 30 errors on throws alone, plus he has a LOT more range. His glove work compares to the best in the game.

        With 550 at bats, I would be content with .280/18/85 with 35 doubles. When I watch a healthy, well rested (sleep apnea under control) Dom, he reminds me of Mark Grace and John Olerud. Not so much Keith, because Dom has more gap homerun power and Hernandez had a better arm and more on-field leadership.

        I think Dom deserves his full shot this year to really show the Mets how he can help this team. Plus, a solid season only increase his trade value next year.

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        • sfes

          3 years ago

          John Olerud was an elite hitter for a stretch

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      • raisinsss

        3 years ago

        Anyone who calls Dom Smith “a DH at best” is better off not sharing their opinion.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          I meant in the context of the Mets roster where he’s completely wasted. Alonso blocks him. A trade makes perfect sense to me.

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  21. chief 2

    3 years ago

    This must have been an April Fool’s Day post. I’m a Braves fan and, while I’d love for the Mets to make this deal, even I know the Mets aren’t this dumb.

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    • Ma4170

      3 years ago

      Thank you, couldn’t agree more

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  22. VonPurpleHayes

    3 years ago

    Lol Cohen blowing over the Cohen tax for Hosmer and Paddack? Yikes

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    • Robrock30

      3 years ago

      Mets needed to sign Schwarber for DH. Cano, Dom Smith & JD Davis aren’t good enough.

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    • Sourhaze

      3 years ago

      Mega yikes.

      Just roll with what you have. MeGill has a lot of promise. Mets don’t need to make this trade. So desperate. I’d be so dissapointed in Cohen if he approves this. Paddock is just damaged goods and a 5rh starter. They have plenty who they can try there

      This also smells like something else is going on with DeGrom

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      • 2006_wbc-dice-k

        3 years ago

        Good point.

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  23. hernandezhofer

    3 years ago

    The only way this deal makes sense is if Cano is in it too. It’s a wash in this year’s salary but the Padres may be interested in getting out of the bad contract 2 years earlier.

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    • Pedro 4 Delino

      3 years ago

      Good call. Cano for hosmer and Paddock makes more sense

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  24. Franco27

    3 years ago

    So you want to trade 1 bad player for 2 bad players?

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  25. eddiemathews

    3 years ago

    Might be able to get Adrian Houser from Milwaukee, but now that deGrom is out the Mets will have to pay a premium no matter who they deal with. But…in for a penny, in for a pound.

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  26. RonDarlingShouldntBeInTheHallOfFame

    3 years ago

    Padres should throw in Campusano, and the Mets should throw in Davis. Seems fair to me..although no idea why the Mets would take Hosmer.

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    • eddiemathews

      3 years ago

      They could just release him, I suppose..

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  27. Milwaukee-2208

    3 years ago

    Thought the Mets had all this pitching “depth” and who would went Hosmer!? The Mets need to calm down and start the season without Degrom and go from there. Relllllax Cohen. If anything, trade for Castillo

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    • Gwynning

      3 years ago

      Do the Mets have the MiLB pieces to obtain Castillo? Serious question as I thought their farm cupboards were mostly bare…

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      • raisinsss

        3 years ago

        Not quite. Highest upside guys are far though.

        Alvarez is likely untouchable.

        At least one of Mauricio, baty, and vientos should be expendable.

        Not sure if they’d trade Allan, their lone high end arm.

        Beyond that, barring a surprise there isn’t too much. They’ll have a handful of pick this year though.

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  28. Silent Bob23

    3 years ago

    Unless the Mets are unloading Cano as well this deal makes zero sense for them.

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  29. 377194

    3 years ago

    Bad trade for the Mets. Hosmer? Are you kidding?

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  30. DarkSide830

    3 years ago

    “no one would be willing to trade for Hosmer”

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      “No one in their right mind would be willing to trade for Hosmer!”
      Fixed it for you.

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  31. JoeBrady

    3 years ago

    Get me some popcorn, this should be fun. Two desperate teams watching their respective windows closing. I think the way to look at this is, if Paddack was a FA, how much would you pay him for a three-year contract? Let’s say his arb worth is $15M/3. Assuming that Hosmer is worthless, that means trading for Paddack is like signing Paddack for $75M/3, plus whatever value Smith has.

    Maybe if SD kicks in an additional $35M?

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    • Herc33

      3 years ago

      Don’t really think windows are closing but in terms of the money Rosenthal is saying NYM would get $25M so you’re not that far off.

      Without prospects to sweeten the deal the Padres eating half of Hosmer’s money seems right.

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    • SoCalBrave

      3 years ago

      The Padres window isn’t closing and the Mets was never open to begin

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  32. Central Valley

    3 years ago

    Not a fan of either team here, but I’m curious as to why the Mets are not considering Johnny Cueto?

    Or maybe they are, who knows. Cueto is a solid innings eater that I’m sure wouldn’t be too expensive.

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  33. Very Barry

    3 years ago

    If Mets are willing to take on 4 years and nearly $60 million for Eric Hosmer ….. The best move would be to wait. As early as 1 month into the season you will start to see some teams seeing a rebuild as much more attractive, and a much better package of players become available. Why not call the Cubs … Take Jason Hayward contract with Kyle Hendricks attached.

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    • PutPeteinthehall

      3 years ago

      Heyward gets a ticket home. Cubs send a little money to the Friars and a fourth/fifth outfielder that would have been released or optioned. The only team that could take on Hosmer would be doing so in a swap of bad contracts.

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  34. 2006_wbc-dice-k

    3 years ago

    This would be awful for the Mets. Even if $ is neutral and Mets get Pagan I would not make deal.

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  35. fba0017

    3 years ago

    Anything SD is working on gets leaked. They def have a Chatty Cathy in the front office.

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      I was thinking NYM leaked it. Gotta win the back page!

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    • Herc33

      3 years ago

      Not really, a lot of times SD’s deals just happen out of nowhere.

      They’re “interested“ in like every player out there and I do think they intentionally put info out about Hosmer/Myers deals to make it seem like there’s some actual interest though because those guys are so hard to move

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  36. solaris602

    3 years ago

    Why not skip all this nonsense and just sign Johnny Cueto? He could be had on a one year deal for maybe $10M max. Do you really want to be shackled with Hosmer for 4 years?

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  37. letsgomets 2

    3 years ago

    The only way this works is if it is Mackenzie Gore and not Paddack, but I don’t think the Padres would move Gore.

    The options (according to Baseball Trade Values):
    Cano
    Diaz
    Dom Smith
    For
    Hosmer
    Gore
    Morejon

    OR

    Dom Smith
    Edwin Diaz
    A Ball Prospect
    For
    Hosmer
    Hassell
    Gore
    Morejon

    There just isn’t any need to get an injured and clearly declining Chris Paddack.

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    • Milwaukee-2208

      3 years ago

      You ain’t getting Gore for any of the above lmao Mets fans on one

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      • Ma4170

        3 years ago

        Why not? He’s barely in the top 100 anymore. His value is about as high as Mauricio’s at this point, which isn’t much. Lmao padres on consistently overrating all of their prospects the last five years except for Tatis.

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        • Padres2019ha

          3 years ago

          How about we throw in Abrams too lol

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        • PadreB2011

          3 years ago

          Mets fans are beginning to become as dumb as Yankee fans…there’s got to be something in the water! #WatchTheWater

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  38. Robrock30

    3 years ago

    Mets are going to do something really stupid here as a PR move to deflect the DeGrom debacle. You can just feel it coming. Am I Right?

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    • Oh Boy Here We Go

      3 years ago

      What Degrom debacle? Serious question as im not up to date on whats going on other than he’s having shoulder issues.

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      • PadreB2011

        3 years ago

        Read the article!

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        • Oh Boy Here We Go

          3 years ago

          K. Still didnt answer my question.
          The Mets have spent the offseason pushing full-bore towards fielding a competitive squad, but the fragility of an offseason win became clear yesterday with the news of ace Jacob deGrom being shut down for the next four weeks. The panic alarm has sounded, but the Mets are not without solutions.

          Im not seeing what the debacle is the mets need to deflect from. Did the mets do something to cause degrom to get injured?

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  39. Milwaukee-2208

    3 years ago

    Cohen doesn’t have a clue how to run a team besides writing checks. This is a bad baseball move if this goes through. Plenty of other places to get pitching without having to take on a terrible Hosmer

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  40. johnnieleeboo

    3 years ago

    There’s an update. The Padres are going to throw in a Bridge. The Mets are going to look at it today.
    Conveniently it’s in the New York Metropolitan area.

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  41. Shrutefarm

    3 years ago

    If the names in this article are, in fact, the main pieces in a trade, it would be terrible for the Mets.
    Being a fan of the NL West, I have seen a lot of Paddack. He has had 3 years to show something, and all he has shown is his ability to be inconsistent and give up the long ball. I don’t see him moving the needle from the options the Mets already have. Plus, you add in the fact that the Mets take a player they don’t need (Hosmer) and any amount of his contract?
    For me, if I’m the Mets, I politely say “no, thanks”.

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    • solaris602

      3 years ago

      Then you factor in that Paddack is pitching in SD which is a pitchers park. That’s like a position player turning in a .205 BA at Coors. Fools gold at best.

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      • Herc33

        3 years ago

        Petco plays neutral after they moved the fences in.

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  42. jim stem

    3 years ago

    Honestly, the Mets need to use the leverage of taking on Hosmer’s contract against the Padres.

    At this stage in their respective careers, Smith and Hosmer are fairly equal. Being the home grown talent, affordability, age, talent, attitude and ‘team first’ mentality, I check all these boxes for Dom.

    With the DH in the NL now, I think Dom is in line for 500+ at bats in 2022 unless Cano gets 200 of those.

    I’m not sure Paddack is ever going to live up to the hype, but adding 1 or 2 quality, healthy arms is always a positive. This deal makes a heck of a lot more sense for the Padres, though. The Mets could tap other organizations for more options without compromise, like Oakland, Baltimore or the Reds.

    I just think the Mets defense needs Dom at first and letting Pete DH 400 at bats should really help keep him strong all season. He will still get his 650 plate appearances while playing 1b two times a week.

    Now, all that being said, if the Mets can pry Lamet AND one of those younger bullpen arms…

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  43. PadreB2011

    3 years ago

    Paddack, Pagan and Hosmer (along with $18-20 mil) for Smith…it’s more than fair for both teams! It’d bring Hosmer into the $7-8 mil/yr…both teams getting what they need. Young players with great potential, that have dealt with recent injuries. A new environment just might be what they all need!

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    • Ma4170

      3 years ago

      Yeah, sure, it’s the Mets fans who are delusional… where is the potential for Paddack who keeps trending downward as a two-pitch pitcher? Hosmer is a net negative. Yes, Pagan I like… should just do Dom for Pagan without having to take on additional money if you want to make it more equitable

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      • PadreB2011

        3 years ago

        With SD eating 1/2 of Hosmer’s deal, he easily worth 8-10 mil/yr…Paddack and Dom have both struggled with recent injuries…I’m sure that deal works for both sides.

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  44. Crunchtime1969

    3 years ago

    As a Padre fan the Mets can have them both for nothing. I would support that move. No return is necessary.

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    • Crunchtime1969

      3 years ago

      The three although Pagan has some value. Hosmer is dead weight. Paddock never reached his potential. Maybe New York will be a benefit to them.

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    • Noel1982

      3 years ago

      Don smith is nothing ! Sounds fair to me

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  45. Oh Boy Here We Go

    3 years ago

    Id send Campusano, Paddack, Pagan along with Hosmer to the Mets for Smith rather than eating tons of cash.

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    • Padres2019ha

      3 years ago

      Why ain’t your money and Camp is a great hitting catching prospect

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      • Herc33

        3 years ago

        I think they haven’t been able to pull a deal off because they’re not willing to put in a legit prospect. If they can get someone to do it for Paddack + like half of Hosmer’s contract then they might as well do it.

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    • Datashark

      3 years ago

      makes more sense Padres have 4 catchers to fill 2 spots

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  46. gavilan

    3 years ago

    Don Smith, for Paddack, Hosmer, Canpusano, and 20 M.

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  47. batman123

    3 years ago

    not my money

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  48. Padres2019ha

    3 years ago

    Please take Blane Snell that guy is a TOOL

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    • PadreB2011

      3 years ago

      Blake!

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      • agentx

        3 years ago

        Flake?

        MLBTR Comments version of Wordle coming soon to MLBTR Comments…

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        • PadreB2011

          3 years ago

          Flame?

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  49. Sheesh

    3 years ago

    I absolutely hate this this move for the Mets smh

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  50. jim stem

    3 years ago

    If the Mets want to truly make a big deal, get Means, Mullens and Mancini from Baltimore. I’d empty the farm for that, short of Alvarez.

    Mauricio, Matt Allen, Dom Smith and either JD Davis or Vientos going the other way with cash.

    Of. Marte, Nimmo, Canha, Mullens, Jankowski, Mancini
    IF. Escobar, Lindor, McNeil, Alonso, Mancini, Guillorme, Cano

    Sp. Scherzer, deGrom (IL), Bassitt, Means (much needed lefty), Carrasco, Walker, Megill, Peterson (AAA to start season)

    …Orioles get some top prospects, cash and their every day 1B (Dom). Mets get the gifted, young center fielder they need, a very good left handed starter, a veteran 1b/rf/lf proven run producer.

    Orioles aren’t paying any of these guys to finish last in the AL East for the next three years. But they get their future SS, starting 3b, a starter and a minimal payroll.

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    • danumd87

      3 years ago

      That’s not nearly enough for just Mullins. Don’t quit your day job.

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    • danumd87

      3 years ago

      It’s unlikely there’s any realistic trade package the Mets could put together for Mullins without starting with Alvarez and adding significant pieces. For Mullins, means and Mancini you’re looking at Alvarez, Baty, Mauricio to start with some combination of Allan, Diaz and Davis. Basically what you suggested gets Means and Mancini and no mention of Mullins.

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  51. Winner962

    3 years ago

    there are a few teams with pitchers to spare that don’t come with a dead weight.

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  52. Mitchell Page

    3 years ago

    Or Mets could give my A’s Brett Baty for Frankie Montas .

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  53. MLB Top 100 Commenter

    3 years ago

    Anything is possible. They report that Max Scherzer was scratched from his start today. Wow! Perfect storm. But totally expected.

    Padres take Cano in deal?

    Padres pay half of Hosmer’s salary.

    Padres include Campusano.

    If I were Mets, I would rather get Castillo or Mahle from Reds and swallow’s Moose’s contract instead. Or trade prospect Mauricio plus lesser prospects for Maneaa or Montas. But A’s might insist on Alvarez or Baty, which I would not do.

    I think this one has legs. Paddack, Pagan and Campusano would be about right to dump half the money on Hosmer’s contract and get Smith back.

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  54. fred-3

    3 years ago

    Paddock is a gas can, but I don’t think Preller should be trading starting pitching

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  55. Camden453

    3 years ago

    Taking on salary for Chris Paddack is a bad idea

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  56. angt222

    3 years ago

    Make it happen Mets! Hosmer’s AAV decreases the next 3 seasons to a reasonable salary and helps give the Mets more SP depth in the wake of deGrom’s injury. If it only costs us Dom, I’m ok with it.

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    • revolver

      3 years ago

      Joel Sherman reports that the Padres would be sending 30 million the Mets way.

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  57. roywhite

    3 years ago

    Uncle Steve, I know you’re on here somewhere…

    PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS TRADE. The only thing Hosmer is good for is giving haircuts and trimming beards and eyebrows.

    For the sake of Pete Alonso’s sloppy but endearing facial hair DO NOT TRADE FOR HOSMER!

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  58. sfes

    3 years ago

    So best case scenario for degrom is that he comes back mid season and dominates the 2nd half instead of the first? Not that I’d count on it, but a rested deGrom coming out throwing like that in the 2nd half would be a real boost. See where he’s at in 2 months before making any serious trades. I really hope this is just BS and they sign like Cueto or something and relax. A lot can happen over 162. Tylor Megill earned a shot after his performance last year. His ERA before he was overworked along with solid peripherals were promising. No need to panic YET…

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    • teddyk

      3 years ago

      Scherzer scratched today due to hamstring issue as well. So hasn’t been able to throw and get stretched out the past week either. Still no need to panic? I don’t see him missing much, but a 10 day IL stint makes sense rather than pushing an old guy who ended the playoffs with a dead arm…just saying. The Braves, Phillies, and even the Marlins won’t feel sorry for them as they snag an early division lead against those metropolitans.

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      • sfes

        3 years ago

        The Scherzer situation is more cautious than anything. They need to keep him fresh early on anyway. So, no. No panic, NL East was always going to be a battle]. The Marlins aren’t “pesky” anymore. They’re in position to pry open a legit window of contention.

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  59. Rafael Santana

    3 years ago

    Trade Cano with Dominic Smith, take on Hosmer full salary and pay Cano’s salary this year and allow the Pads to pay Cano next year. Still a cost savings for the Padres and the Mets don’t seem to care how much they spend. Padres would be on the hook for $20 million of Cano’s final year, Mets pay $20 million this year of it and start the $18 million per on Hosmer. They don’t need Cano and Hosmer. Otherwise the trade does nothing for the Mets. Maybe Pagan can be a reliable reliever but they need a lefty. Paddack is going to be another talented pitcher who spends most of his time dealing with MRI stress reactions and inflammation then suddenly when the pennant race heats up needs another Tommy John. No thanks, unless they can get rid of Cano. And if that happens, then sign Conforto back.

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  60. SaintChris

    3 years ago

    Just start Megill or Peterson or use an opener until DeGrom gets back. Don’t trade for Hosmer to get a crap 5th starter.

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  61. VegasSDfan

    3 years ago

    Smith -.7 war?
    Wow I dont think this is the type of move that will make our team better.

    Hosmer is better than Smith, if they made the same amount I would take Hosmer.

    Paddack for Smith is more equal. He is going to settle into becoming a solid rotation piece.

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    • Ma4170

      3 years ago

      Or the guy when not injured had a 134 WRC+ In 2019 and 166 in 2020… hard pass on Mets part

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  62. Noel1982

    3 years ago

    Now this this is the trade value of jd davis or dom smith ! They have net neutral value ! There’s free agents still available better then them including a current Mets free agent with a qualifying offer ! Don’t give up anything of value for these bit players

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  63. stevenam

    3 years ago

    I wouldn’t sign Hosmer at the major league minimum to replace Smith, and Paddack is a bad pitcher with a good arm. He’d be #7 on the Mets rotation depth. Hard pass.

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  64. PitcherMeRolling

    3 years ago

    I don’t like this deal at all. The Mets need someone who stabilizes their rotation, not adds more questions.

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  65. Datashark

    3 years ago

    as it stands Hosmer/Paddack for Smith

    Seems like an AWFUL trade….Paddack cannot be the only available pitcher out there that they could get he does not look good in a pitchers park.

    Hosmer is a waste does not fill any need and a high cost for nuthin’

    They could do better Smith is more versatile than hosmer but they need a pitcher am sure they could dangle a few more players for a better pitcher without bringing back hosmer.

    I dont see why they don’t talk to the A’s and send a heap of load low cost of players for 1 pitcher.

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    • Wisdom shared

      3 years ago

      The Yankees wanted an Oakland pitcher and the opening name to start the conversation was Volpe, with more pieces attached for only one A’s pitcher. Exactly what makes the Mets believe they have anyone close to what the A’s wanted from the Yankees and based on rumors read here, the A’s wanted a teams 1st and 2nd top prospects for one of their pitchers. They don’t want players like the Mets could offer like Dom Smith, etc.

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  66. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    3 years ago

    Jed please stay as far away as possible from this guy. Nows not the time to add 60mil to the books. If the Padres pay 80% and they send Gore and 2 others over. I’d say yes. The cubs send heyward back then pay the other 20% pf Hosmers salary. Then they can fire him.

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  67. Say Hey Now Kid

    3 years ago

    Dom Smith for Eric Hosmer and Mackenzie Gore

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  68. Best Screenname Ever

    3 years ago

    Although they’re not my team I actually like the Mets. And I don’t normally like the “LOL Mets’ stuff. But if the Mets end up with Eric Hosmer I’ll be among the first to “LOL Mets!’.

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  69. Mystery Team

    3 years ago

    $300 million dollar mess of a team that even the Padres and AJ Preller see as desperate and easily duped. Every team in the league will be calling the Mets trying to unload their sixth or seventh best starter and their worst contract knowing the Mets just might bite. Keep throwing money at it Steve I’m sure that’ll work out for you.

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  70. Noel1982

    3 years ago

    I’ve accurately and without the right for anyone to ever disagree have accurately stated the value of dom amith and jd davis is absolutely nothing more then cash and a 4a player ! Time is proving me right it’s not hate for the Guys it’s just reality you can find a jd davis or dom smith anywhere! Jeff McNeil is the Only one or the 3 player’s Mets wheee dangling with trade value

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  71. AdamGe

    3 years ago

    The Mets have a poor track record with pitchers like Paddack who are constantly injured. Smith is much better than Homer at this point, I just do not get the reasoning behind this.

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    • Noel1982

      3 years ago

      You should understand you can find jd davis or dom smith anywhere they are nobodies! If Mets ever traded either it wouldn’t ever be for anything Mets fans would like

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  72. 99socalfrc

    3 years ago

    LOL at the Padres thinking they have enough rotation depth. No team in MLB has enough rotation depth. Anyone thinking they do is an idiot.

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    • Brew88

      3 years ago

      Agreed. Don’t understand at all why they would part with one of their healthiest pitchers….unless they have another trade in the works for (Montas)?

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  73. Brian Petti

    3 years ago

    The difference between Hosmer and Dom Smith is that Smith has a pulse. If you can afford to release Hosmer and let him play somewhere else, and you can get two major league caliber arms, go ahead. But I can’t see Cano and Hosmer both occupying a space on the roster. That said, having Paddack as a depth piece with guys like Carrasco and Scherzer one hamstring tweak away from the IL isn’t the worst idea in the world. The Dodgers have guys like Paddack lined up ten deep.

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  74. RGR

    3 years ago

    This is like Dumb and Dumber getting well, Dumber and Dumbest lol…..both teams already made idiotic moves in acquiring Cano(Mets) and signing Hosmer(Padres), so this is just the 2 of them competing to see who gets the Dumbest title!!! And the title for most wasted money in a season bc both hv no chance of winning their respective divisions tbh

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  75. padam

    3 years ago

    Not sure I see the value in such a deal when the current 5th starter has better numbers than the pitcher you’re trading for – who pitched in a better pitchers ballpark. Then taking on a player who has 4 years remaining and nowhere to play/go other than DH isn’t a smart move, even if a portion of the salary is absorbed by the Padres. And if DeGrom does come back and is healthy, the Mets basically inherited the Padres problem.

    Looks to be a panic deal. Hard pass.

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  76. bhoops

    3 years ago

    I would be curious why the Mets would want this trade. Pagan may be the only useful piece if Paddack is damaged goods. From the Padres side, unless they know Paddack is shot I don’t understand their side either.

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    • Brew88

      3 years ago

      Paddack is damaged goods? Where did you hear that. He’s a 4-5 starter on most teams. If he develops a slider he’ll be much better.

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      • bhoops

        3 years ago

        The article itself said “A slightly torn UCL might be the cause of the decline”.

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        • Brew88

          3 years ago

          he’s healthy now. But it’s moot point. The article also said there was something to this rumor, when there isn’t

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  77. wallabeechamp

    3 years ago

    The anticipation/possibility of this deal going down has Pobres fans harder than a fistful of blue pills endorsed by MLB. Not going to happen though. There’s only one GM/POBO dumb enough to make a move like that for Hosmer, and he already has him.

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  78. DiehardFriarsFan

    3 years ago

    Still chewing on the scenarios…..Let’s see what happens!

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  79. DiehardFriarsFan

    3 years ago

    Even if the deal goes down, Left Field is locked up with a permanent platoon of Jurikson Profar and Matt Beaty, as Smith would take over at his NATURAL 1st Base duties, (with Luke Voit @ DH). I am ok with this setup.

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    • libertyfighter

      3 years ago

      Pickup Upton to platoon with Beaty once he clears waivers.

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      • DiehardFriarsFan

        3 years ago

        Upton? That could be interesting. Hmmmmmm.

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  80. Bob Sacaman0

    3 years ago

    If I here someone in Mets brass say they can “fix” Paddock I will really lose my mind.

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    • DiehardFriarsFan

      3 years ago

      How is the quality of the pitching coaches for the NYC Metropolitans? (I honestly don’t know).

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      • Bob Sacaman0

        3 years ago

        Doesn’t really matter…referring to the infamous Scott Kazmir for Victor Zambrano trade.

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        • padam

          3 years ago

          You realize none of those folks, including ownership, are even around from that time. That’s decades ago.

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  81. Cosmo2

    3 years ago

    Amazing to me how many around here don’t understand the concept of RUMOR. Everyone is acting like the Mets are desperately working to force this deal through. It’s a RUMOR people. It might not have any real substance or traction to it. It may have been an idea merely floated by one side and simply not yet rejected by the other. It might be nothing at all. Do people not understand how media works? Anyway just a message to all the ignorants around here prematurely doing a pathetic Lol Mets dance. There is no indication that they are actually desperate to do this trade.

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    • rct

      3 years ago

      Some people are just itching to rip the Mets. On twitter, Joel Sherman and others tweeted that the deal was not going to happen and still tons of people replied with low-energy nonsense like LOLMets and ‘Mets gonna Mets!’. No matter what, there’s going to be people ripping the Mets.

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      • Brew88

        3 years ago

        This rumor was the perfect storm for rumor writers. There’s a false rumor about both teams every other day. Hosmer should get royalties

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  82. Rsox

    3 years ago

    If I’m the Mets i would be looking into Johnny Cueto or JA Happ while watching the waiver wire/minor league free agents. It makes zero sense to take on Hosmer, even with the Padres eating salary just to get Paddack.

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  83. jakec77

    3 years ago

    Only way I would do this if I’m the Mets is as a three way trade where Hosmer is landing somewhere else, with the Mets acquiring some other negative value player in exchange for Hosmer, or having to attach some money themselves to Hosmer.

    But, I can’t imagine who would be the third team.

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    • Javia135

      3 years ago

      Perhaps the Cubs.

      sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/mlb-rumors-cubs-linked-pa…

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      • jakec77

        3 years ago

        What salary are the Cubs looking to dump?

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        • Javia135

          3 years ago

          The link is right there.

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      • Simm

        3 years ago

        This would make the most sense. Paddack and pagan from the padres + a prospect from the cubs to the Mets.

        Hosmer and cash from padres (perhaps cash from the mets as well if the value of pagan and paddack are greater then smith) to the cubs.

        Smith to padres.

        Either way I now believe hosmer will be dealt soon. It’s pretty clear now the padres want to trade Hosmer (yes it has been) with a ton of cash. So it just a matter of how much a year a team is willing to pay Hosmer per year. Via reports it sounds like between 6-7m per year, which isn’t much. Not sure this makes any sense for the Padres unless they just need to clear some tax cushion. Other wise paying hosmer 6-7m a year would seem worth the padres to pay to keep him.

        Then again I could see the cubs having interest in paddack as well.

        So who knows…think we will find out soon.

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        • Simm

          3 years ago

          Or not lol

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        • Rsox

          3 years ago

          Honestly a three team trade between the Mets/Padres/Cubs could work.

          Let the Mets get the players they were supposedly getting so it would look like:
          Mets
          Chris Paddack
          Emilio Pagan

          Cubs
          Eric Hosmer

          Padres
          Jason Heyward
          Dom Smith

          The Padres could decrease the amount of Hosmer’s salary they were going to pay by taking on the remainder of Heyward’s contract

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  84. Tacoshells

    3 years ago

    Trade for Montas!

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  85. CentralPABuccos

    3 years ago

    Great time for a team like Bal, Cle, Pit, Oak, Mia, KC to jump in as a 3rd team take on $$$ for two cash strapped teams to receive a +50FV rated prospect.

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    • Cap & Crunch

      3 years ago

      Yes Yes Yes Yes !

      If we had a salary floor you’d be seeing so many of these interesting trades go down and rebuilds a lot quicker

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  86. Moneyballer

    3 years ago

    Padres need more back in this deal. They would be giving up way to much and paying to ship out Hosmer. It makes very little sense for the Padres.

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    • Ma4170

      3 years ago

      Now that’s funny

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    • rct

      3 years ago

      Hosmer was the worst part of this deal. He’s worthless and expensive. This trade made tons of sense for the Padres.

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      • Moneyballer

        3 years ago

        Not at all. They were paying to trade him. Terrible deal for the padres!

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  87. Peter Pan Damme

    3 years ago

    I’m going out on a limb and saying the snag is “The Mets acquiring Eric Hosmer”

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    • phenomenalajs

      3 years ago

      Yeah, especially if SD is not eating most of his contract.

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      • Marcus was already taken

        3 years ago

        34 million out of 59 is most of his contract

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  88. BigFootsFart

    3 years ago

    This trade is trash and needs to be squashed. Hosmers absurd contract + a partially torn ucl? Stop. This is an overreaction by Mets brass. Chill

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  89. bjhaas1977

    3 years ago

    Good it shouldn’t happen

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  90. krumbledkookie

    3 years ago

    Glad it’s not happening. Never made sense anyway. Pitch Peterson or Megill. Paddack was hardly an upgrade.

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  91. Mitchell Page

    3 years ago

    Well the Mets better get on the Frankie Montas , Lou Trivino deal . I’m going to need Brett Baty plus more .

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  92. Enzosrevenge

    3 years ago

    Well now what? gotta get rid of paddock pagan & hoz or face resentment what a mess

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  93. You are wrong

    3 years ago

    Paddack has not breaking ball and Hosmer’s contract is an albatross. Failing to see how this helps the Mets at all.

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    • Javia135

      3 years ago

      m.youtube.com/watch?v=45MRRm9dQP0

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  94. Noel1982

    3 years ago

    Best for Mets to just keep all three of McNeil smith and Davis ! They have more value to the Mets especially the latter 2 as bit players then other teams ! You can find a jd davis or dom smith anywhere this kind of trade is what they would always bring back

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  95. Enrico Pallazzo

    3 years ago

    The Mets and Padres are the meme of spiderman pointing at himself. Both are living in the shadow of a much better more storied team in their region. Both desperate to be considered as part of a classic rivalry but aren’t and never will be. Both have had recent spending spree overhaul attempts go spectacularly awry.

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  96. foppert

    3 years ago

    Outside of the cash he banks, it must be tough for Hosmer to turn up to work each day. Knowing so much effort goes into trying to offload you has to be seriously bad for your mental health. Throw in the public nature of it all and it’s just a death spiral of a situation for the player. Feel for the guy.

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  97. Deleted Userr

    3 years ago

    Sometimes all you can say is “lol”

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  98. jvent

    3 years ago

    No thanks to Hosmer and Paddack, Megill can do the same as Paddack
    I would take Snell straight up for Smith, if not forget the Padres and go after Means or Manae, they Mets can use a lefty.

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    • Javia135

      3 years ago

      Unfortunately for the Mets both the Orioles and As will demand prospects in return. Good ones. Smith ain’t gonna do anything for them.

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  99. Mikel Grady

    3 years ago

    Cubs will take on all of hosmer’s salary to get elite prospects

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  100. Dock_Elvis

    3 years ago

    Hosmer is the most overrated player for a career in my memory. Analytics have never liked him.

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    • Brew88

      3 years ago

      He’s the most heavily criticized player in recent memory, at this point he might be underrated?

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  101. beyou02215

    3 years ago

    Padres stuck with Hosmer and his contract. As I’ve said many times, everyone in baseball knew that Hosmer was a bad idea except for the Padres.

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  102. Lemonade24

    3 years ago

    Instead of trying to eat the Padres contracts. The Mets should just buy out Cano. Smith will be a great player with a full time job. Make Alonso the Dh and Smith the 1st basemen. Or share the position.

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      They don’t need to buyout Cano to do that. Plus why would he agree to a buyout?

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  103. Tomas7

    3 years ago

    I’m glad this trade didn’t go through, the Mets dodged a bullet in Paddock, I’ve seen him play a lot, he is very erratic and not consistent, overconfident, something the Mets don’t need, and Hosmer I don’t understand either. With the A’s in sell mode maybe the Mets should consider buying Sean Manea, a good starting lefty whose looking extremely well in spring training…..Plus Don Smith is having a good spring as well…..Just a thought.

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  104. txman22

    3 years ago

    Mets need to go after Frankie Montas & don’t expect Carrasco to be his old self. Nobody knows how Peterson, Walker or Williams will perform based on last year. What about their farm system. Nobody there who could help?

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  105. Willy Smith

    3 years ago

    I guess the Padres aren’t getting Gavin Sheets either?

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