MLBTR is holding live chats specific to each of the 30 teams as the offseason nears. In conjunction with the recent offseason outlook for the Padres, Darragh McDonald held a Padres-themed chat on 11-2-22. Click here to view the chat transcript.
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It’s the GM’s job to make the team fun/exciting it’s their job to make them a winner. And a consistent one.
It’s not* the GM’s job to make the team fun/exciting
The Padres are a very fun team. They’d be a lot better with Ty France, Andres Munoz, Josh Naylor, Cal Quantrill, Emmanuel Clase, Luis Castillo, Max Fried, Eric Lauer and Trea Turner
“I don’t hate it from a pure baseball perspective. But there’s also a human element at play. It’s tough to know the right call without being in the clubhouse. In 2021, it seemed that team cohesion played at least some part in the club’s underperformance. If moving Tatis to the outfield is going to make things miserable for the next decade, is that the smart move?”
That seems like a roundabout way of saying “Fernando Tatis Jr. is an issue in the Padres’ clubhouse.” Trade!
If he’s that much of an issue than yea just hand him to anyone willing to pay the contract. It’s been done before in a slight variation.
Failure to make playoffs with him, NLCS without him. Not saying Tatis is the problem but not having what seems to be a very immature player in the clubhouse all year seems like it did more good than harm. Hopefully Tatis reflects upon both his actions off the field and the team’s success without him on it and grows up a bit this winter
If moving to another position to help your team causes you to make others miserable, after already securing your payday, you need to get over yourself.
lol. dude would trade potentially the best player in the league because he gets upset at the idea of being moved off the premium position he has played his entire life and got paid by the Padres to play.
Kim is a better defensive SS. Pure and simple. And we have seen how a bad clubhouse guy can bring a team down.
Manny Machado had no offers in a similar range. The White Sox only offered him $250m. Not only is that $50m shy of what the Padres offered, it also fails to reach the $300m floor that Manny and his agent set at the start of his free agent offseason.
Not sure if what Preller did would qualify as “assembling a core” or trading “the surplus” from his farm. Not a single one of their core pieces is homegrown.
who says a core has to be home grown?
Everyone
A core does not have to be home grown.
Not everyone says it has to be.
Yes it does
Look at the last four World Series winners
What about the fifth?
And you said “everyone” says it, so I – somewhat tongue in cheek – demonstrated that’s not the case.
AJ Preller and his team are fantastic at identifying future, impact major league talent and drafting it.
High quality players from the Padres farm system are excelling with other teams all over MLB. Read article revisiting the Mike Clevinger trade that stated the Guardians hosed the Padres with key pieces of the Guardians AL Central Championship team from the Padres farm system.
“Mike Clevinger trade was a franchise building block for Cleveland
It’s becoming clear why San Diego is the Guardians’ favorite trade partner “. .partnerhttps://www.coveringthecorner.com/2022/5/3/23053166/mike-clevinger-trade-was-a-franchise-building-block-for-cleveland
Seattle’s starting first baseman Ty France was a 34th round pick out of the Padres farm system. The list is very long of young promising Padres players and farm hands traded away who became key contributing major leaguers elsewhere. too long to mention here, but a few examples will suffice
“.Led by France and Trammell, Mariners’ 2020 trade with Padres may be speeding up end of rebuild”https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1345757/2020-mariners-padres-trade-speed-up-rebuild/
Trey Turner and a bunch of throw ins to the Nationals and Rays for Will Myers?!
This troubling, San Diego Padres long term way of operating started way before the Preller Era.
The Indians/Guardians are grateful for landing Carlos Baerga, Sandy Alomar Jr and others for Joe Carter. Padres players became major contributors to multiple Indians/Guardians playoffs and World Series runs.
The Blue Jays are thankful to the Padres for multiple World Series Titles as a result of trades that sent Robbie Alomar to the Jays and Joe Carter to the Jays.
The Braves are thankful that the Padres gifted them Fred McGriff for a bag full of used batts and balls. McGriff lead an earlier Braves dynasty to its World Series Title.
The Marlins thank the Padres for Gary Sheffield and others who help them win a World Series Title. In the grab bag of lottery tickets in those deals was a hidden, unknown gem (Trevor Hoffman).
The Cardinals are forever grateful for the Padres gifting them Ozzie Smith in a trade.
Preller and the Padres’ problems are keeping and developing foundational talent in their system and on their major league contending team.
The Padres’ farm system has become a farm system for other major league teams.
Many of the players received by the Padres are veterans on expiring contracts or young players closer to free agency and big contracts.
It is a “welcome to the New Boss (Preller) same as the old bosses San Diego Padres.
It would be a very welcome change if the Padres could develop, held onto and play some of their best young talent at the major league level!?
Some GMs just like to trade everything not nailed down from their team and farm.
The Padres team could crater back to earth and the 2nd Division if they don’s start
keeping more of their young, great players instead of shipping them out of town in very questionable deals.
In 2023 the Padres will have a 235M+ payroll with many holes in the team because of free agency and non production?!
Not a good sign!
The analysis that you provide, however correct it may be, is true of virtually every franchise.
No team is free from cherry picking random or various trades throughout its history that benefited the other team(s).
So don’t misunderstand, I am not being critical of your analysis for the Padres trades, just your apparent short sightedness to think the Padres are the only team that it applies.
Totally agree. And wait for the players in DC to develop in the Soto trade.
Never cared much for A.J. Preller, but the Padres did have a good 2022.
The thing is – am tired of reading about the Padres farm system. Doesn’t matter, they trade the players anyway. They’re forever turning over their roster – the one commonality is that their payroll keeps rising.
I watch less Padre games each year on MLB.TV. The Padres don’t do much of anything that most other MLB teams do. If they have a good game it was nice, if not it wasn’t. It’s not like watching young players get better; seeing an opportunity and taking advantage of it. They pitch. They hit. They run the bases station-to-station.
And 12 months a year Preller is changing the roster around.
The Padres. LOL!
The draft, the minors and even assembling a winning team at the major league level is a crap shoot. Tatis hasn’t played for Bob Melvin yet, give it time. To trade him now while the ‘cheap’ portion of his contract is in play is foolish. No one is going to pay a fair market price for him. Let him gain his footing again and raise his value, if after that happens and he still hasn’t won over the clubhouse…trade him.
The cheap portion of his contract still being in play just means they would be able to get more for him.
Regarding the Padres farm system not being as stellar as it once was, Preller will restock the farm within 2 years max.. He is a great evaluator of talent, so Im not to worried about the future of the farm.
Going to take a lot longer than that without drafting in the top 10 every year like they did during the rebuild. And it won’t matter if he can’t develop those prospects into quality major leaguers.
Top 3 worst trades of the Preller era. Go.
That is a long list getting longer every year!
Nice to be in the playoffs again, but at what cost?
Scorched earth trades could come back to bite the team, again.