The market for shortstop Dansby Swanson has begun to heat up, according to Russell Dorsey of Bally Sports. He lists the Dodgers, Giants, Twins, Cubs, Red Sox and Braves as teams with interest. Jon Morosi of MLB Network reports that the Giants have been in touch with Swanson’s representatives, but that it doesn’t appear any decision is imminent.
The Twins, Cubs, Red Sox and Braves have all previously been connected to Swanson this offseason, though the mentions of the Dodgers and Giants are new. This offseason featured a group of shortstops known as the “big four,” with Trea Turner already signed with the Phillies and Xander Bogaerts with the Padres. That leaves Carlos Correa and Swanson as the two of that group left for all those shortstop-needy teams.
Though Correa and Swanson are connected in the sense that they are the two surefire everyday shortstops remaining, there’s a significant difference between the two. Both have strong reputations for their glovework, though Correa’s overall body of work at the plate is stronger. At the start of the season, MLBTR predicted a nine-year, $288MM contract for Correa but a seven-year, $154MM deal for Swanson.
Most teams would surely prefer Correa in a vacuum but the price might be an issue. Both Turner and Bogaerts got at least three years longer than projected and each secured a larger overall guarantee as well. With that context, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see Correa and Swanson also end up getting deals larger than their projections.
The Giants were seen by many as the favorites for Correa after they made an offer in the $360MM range to Aaron Judge that he declined in order to return to the Yankees. However, it stands to reason that they would also reach out to Swanson and see if there’s a significant difference in the respective markets. Since the Judge non-signing, they’ve agreed to some smaller deals for Sean Manaea and Ross Stripling, bringing their 2023 payroll up to $164MM, per Roster Resource. It’s unclear how far they want to push spending this offseason, but they are still sitting on a competitive balance tax figure of $180MM, leaving them over $50MM of room before reaching the lowest luxury tax barrier of $233MM.
Giving Correa a salary in the $30MM range wouldn’t push them into the luxury tax on its own, but they do have other needs on the roster as well. They are reportedly still interested in retaining Carlos Rodón, who will also require a contract somewhere in the vicinity of $30MM on an annual basis. Adding both Rodón and Correa would start pushing them into luxury tax territory, whereas the dropdown to Swanson could lead to something closer to $20MM annually. If the CBT barrier is something they’re trying to avoid, then it’s possible the difference between a Correa and a Swanson deal could be significant for them.
For the Dodgers, they have lost their incumbent shortstop in Turner, who is now with the Phillies. The club is reportedly comfortable with moving Gavin Lux from second base to be their new shortstop, though it also makes sense for them to explore what else is available. However, they are apparently not pursuing Correa, given both his ties to the scandal-plagued 2017 Astros team that defeated the Dodgers in the World Series, as well as his high asking price. Perhaps Swanson is an attractive backup plan for the club, though they might also prefer to wait until they get clarity on the Trevor Bauer situation before making firm commitments. He is appealing his suspension and if he is successful in overturning it, the club’s CBT figure would jump from around $189MM to over $220MM. A decision is expected in the next month or so.
If that scenario were to come to pass, even a slightly more modest deal for Swanson would push them over the line into tax payor status. Since the club is reportedly considering dipping under the line to reset their status, that could be an issue. The CBT features escalating penalties for paying in consecutive seasons, meaning that the Dodgers could stay under the line in 2023 but go into 2024 as “first-time” payors.
Though he’s likely to secure a lesser contract than Correa, Swanson is no slouch. He hit 27 home runs in 2022 and produced an overall batting line of .277/.329/.447 for a wRC+ of 116. That was his first time being above-average at the plate over a full season, though it showed that he is capable of being an all-around contributor. He also stole 18 bases and posted excellent defensive marks, leading to 6.4 wins above replacement on the season, in the eyes of FanGraphs.
Milwaukee-2208
Whoever tosses superstar level money at this dude will surely regret it. He’s just not that guy
Bryzzo2016
He really isn’t, I agree.
CaptainJudge99
The Giants have been in contact with Arson Judge also.
gfan
It’s getting old now
fre5hwind
He’s just a pawn-ish kind of “ok” player.
Big whiffa
He’s got potential to be the next Brandon Crawford. So why not SF ??
dubtastic
because there’s still Correa available whose offensively better than both.
case
Both of them seem like extreme overpays. I’m hoping the Giants go after Rodon, can never have too much pitching.
JoeBrady
But more importantly, so far, no one has been talking about superstar money.
websoulsurfer
For Swanson. Yes. Correa has multiple offers for superstar money and he deserves it.
cbraves
I just don’t see Correa being worth $35MM+ a season.
Redwolves3
Team that signs Correa will include a “trash can”
Mystery Team
Yeah because Correa bats .325 with 40 bombs and 120 RBI a year. Come one man he deserves superstar money just like Corey Seager did. I think Correa and Seager are both good players but great they are not even close to. Xander Bogaerts is a better player than either of them.
prov356
Redwolves – Please shut up about something that happened in 2017.
yallhaters
Xander Is not better than Carlos
cbraves
He is somewhat underrated to people outside of Braves fans. He has power that has always been there. Great fielder and great speed. And if he can sustain the plate discipline and continue to cut down on strikeouts like he done this past season, he would be a very nice all-around type shortstop.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Braves fan here. He doesn’t have great power or great speed. He has good power and solid speed, and he’s a pretty good base runner. I believe that his defense, his arm specifically, will have a tougher time playing without the shift. He still strikes out a lot. He is clutch and a solid all around player, and a good guy in the clubhouse though.
braves fan 138
This is the best analysis on Dansby I have seen written, he is worth in Braves money 18 million a year; in everyone else in the league he is worth around 24 million a year imo.
SoCalBrave
Another Braves fan here to agree with this assessment. Dansby isn’t fast, but he’s a smart runner and defender. What he lacks in reach and arm, he makes up with instincts and excellent decision making. He is a club house leader, moreso than Freeman ever was. And he is a clutch player that isn’t afraid of the big moment.
I want him back to the Braves, but not at 25M per year on a long term contract
Jean Matrac
No doubt Swanson is a good player, maybe even very good if he can sustain, or come close to his 2022 performance. Most any team should be happy to get him. But objectively he is still inferior to Correa. Too many people let subjective things like the trash can, and supposed ego/attitude issues cloud their judgement. If Swanson was the top SS it would be one thing, but signing Swanson will seem like a disappointment if the Giants fall short of signing Correa, and sign Swanson.
LonnieB
He’s getting better every year. I don’t think he’s reached his ceiling. That being said, no way he deserves superstar money.
amk1920
Surprised no one has replied “but his WAR!!!!” like we don’t all know he’s a solid defender with a limited bat
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Completely agree.
skip55
or, but he’s not a left handed batter
WAR overrated... shows how bad is the replacement? Assigned by?
Same comment should be applied to CC. He is an average defender, mediocre range, expected future production is 19hr/60rbi and declining with a glassbody type.
Four4fore
Just above, above average.
cpdpoet
Correa back to the Twins on a 10yr 325million dollar deal, with player opt out after every season….?
AND then a new opt in option with a 15% salary bump for each further campaign….
CaptainJudge99
@cpdpoet- I definitely like the opt out’s after every season. My guess is $375 for 10 years with Minnesota, Chicago, or San Francisco with all the above opt outs. Thanks for the laugh! Just as long as this taint doesn’t end up on the Yankees!
rememberthecoop
All this talk about the Cubs spending money and they are going to get shut out. Hoyer is too risk-adverse to play in this FA world. Even Swanson will get a huge overpay. Twins or Giants for Correa and the Braves or Dodgers for Dansby.
ForeverGiantsFan
I think Braves are out at this point.
rememberthecoop
I thought so too, but if he really wants to come back they can make it work.
SalaryCapMyth
Ya, at this point I’ll be surprised if Swanson returns to the Braves. I think they already offered the contract they were willing to pay. AA has demonstrated that he will not pay more than the line he sets. He didn’t do it for Freeman so he won’t do it for Swanson either.
rememberthecoop
He raised his offer to Freddie. He just wouldn’t cave on the years.
SalaryCapMyth
So he raised it. That just means he got to the line he wouldnt cross. That also includes years.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
The Dodgers are obviously still one of MLB’s best teams, but why are they suddenly letting guys like Jansen, Seager, Turner, Bellinger, Turner 2, and Heaney go (along with others I may have forgotten)?
FredMcGriff for the HOF
@deGrom. Unless the Dodgers make a big splash they seem to have gotten much worse. It really does seem they got a Bauer Outage.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Rodon is basically Bauer in that he had 2 good seasons out of his last 3, with severe inconsistency and was a former top prospect. Bauer had a good shortened season in 2020, and Rodon had an injured 2021 season. I never understood the Bauer contract, but at least it was short. They obviously aren’t cheap, but they replaced Jansen with Freeman and Seager with Turner, who they didn’t resign? Something is strange. Maybe they decided after last year to be more efficient at spending.
Pete'sView
DeGrom Texas Ranger — It’s been written that the Dodgers want to start infusing some of their top prospects into this year’s roster. Makes total sense. And except for Trea Turner the Dodgers had better options.
CJML
Dip back below the luxury tax threshold? Nothing else makes sense. They will be interesting after losing a lot of good players.
SFBay314
Ohtani gonna get 10/500M from Dodgers next year
Edp007
I think the bidding will start there. Based on this year , add 33% to the max u think a guy can get.
websoulsurfer
Not unless the Dodgers decide to go with a 6 man rotation.
JerseyShoreScore
With the gross overpays this off season and the fact that Ohtani could argue he is a top 10 bat and top 10 starting pitcher. $500 million may end up being light. I could see 12 years $600 to $750 million for Ohtani.
ArchRivals
In a vacuum, Ohtani might be worth this. That being said, there is too much risk and no value at that level. Remember ALL your eggs are in one basket. Essentially, your best hitter AND your best pitcher go down at the same time if he gets hurt. At that price, you cannot sign insurance plans for the what-ifs. I think teams will be willing to go top end pitcher money, plus top end DH money, minus risk. 10 years/$450M is my guess.
l9ydodger
And the end of baseball!!!
Mystery Team
Heaney?? Lol!! I’m sure it wasn’t very hard to let Heaney walk.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
I wasn’t talking about the top guys; just everyone that I can recall.
ForeverGiantsFan
Seager because they had Trea. Trea I believe wanted to play with Harper in Philadelphia. I think they will sign Justin Turner to 1 year contract.
PGM
Tyler Wade on a two-year with an opt out is a more probable
Milwaukee-2208
Swanson is a complementary star to a team who’s one or two pieces away. He’s not the guy you build an offense around
Ma4170
Agree… bad fit for the giants
rememberthecoop
Agree.
JerseyShoreScore
Agreed on Swanson. Not sure why the Dodgers would want him, he is a better defensive shortstop, but if the Dodgers want Swanson’s offensive skill set, just play Chris Taylor everyday… Pretty much the same player!
skip55
maybe freddie told the he didn’t like swanson
Braves83
I luv me some dans —but before last year he was rated the 15th best SS bat for the last 4 years. Dead sold middle of the pack bat at SS—he had a great year last year but anything close to over 150 seems just crazy even in this market—il glad he is getting paid though.
pohle
yeah- a couple offseasons ago this guy is looking at more than five years, 90-130 mil to be a good team’s still youthful, but veteran everyday shortstop with potential to provide above average offense, now it could be that he approaches 200 million and will be labeled as a star addition
clubber_lang84
Nobody wants to pay Correa lol
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Correa wants to blow past Trea Turners contract and it isn’t happening…
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Yup. Correa wants more money than anybody to the point that there is no actual number attached to his demands. He is always waiting to top everybody else and anticipating the next record breaker.
I keep joking he will simply retire and explain that there is no dollar amount or number of years on a contract that would properly convey his value so he’s retiring early rather than be underpaid no matter how much he might actually get paid.
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I can definitely see him not signing and sitting the season out 100%. Just to show everyone who’s boss. Guarantee he is demanding Judge $$$!
Edp007
I think Yanks gonna sign him for big bucks
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007, I don’t think he’ll do it unless he can peacock around the Yanks clubhouse as the highest paid player…I just don’t see it unless they give him more than Judge…Nobody puts Carlos in a corner!!
Edp007
Watched parts of Rookie of The Year other night. Thought of you Trumbo. Sooo funny
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Hahaha I am soo pissed they took it off Amazon Prime at the beginning of the month!! Next month I may have to get a Brickma profile pic going! If you like Daniel Stern check out “Bushwacked” sometime. A little known comedy gem from him (1995).
TrillionaireTeamOperator
Or he will try to sign for 1 year/$40.1M or 3 years/$130.2M etc-basically anything to break the AAV record for position players or players overall. I think he cares more about that than the total and he figures if he can string this year to year AAV record breaking business along he can make more than he’d make on a long term deal. Why accept 10 years/$325M when you can make a total of $449M over 10 years by breaking the previous record by $100k or $1M etc. on successive 1 year deals that look cost effective on paper because they’re only one year at a time for the teams?
The crazy part is that strategy might be more successful than any multi year pact he could get from a team.
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Yep. And even if he does get a long term deal he is going to have opt outs after every year so it will all be the same. He wants SD to come in with 50mil more than they offered Turner and a year longer.
Ma4170
He’s just not the impact player he thinks he is
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Pay him $400,000,000 or don’t get the pleasure of having him play for your team.
websoulsurfer
He is the impact player you think he isn’t.
Ma4170
suuuure
cwsOverhaul
A couple things he does bring that are important include solid defense and durability. The latter is where some of the glitzy position player and starter signings are likely to burn clubs in spectacular fashion. That aside, kudos if if being a decent player gets him around $200mil in the hot market.
Richard Alicea
Doubt very seriously that the Braves are in on Swanson, they just made a deal and need to lock up Murphy long term, they have not changed their ways when it comes to payroll. This team will not exceed the CBT and prefers to be way below it. Swanson is no longer a fit regardless of what you may read on social media and sports pages, and you can take that to the bank. With that said, the Braves have been very efficient with their payroll and continue to be the envy of other clubs, particularly those that exceed the CBT and have nothing to show for it.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Dude, Braves have a top 5 payroll and are close to the CBT already. Get a newer narrative.
SFBay314
Can’t wait for the story to come out in 2 years that these players just didn’t want to play for Kapler i.e. platoon system. Farhan supposedly blaming the city is a joke. Players are signing in Minnesota!
disadvantage
I suppose anything is possible and maybe they don’t like Kap, but SF has always had trouble attracting top free agents. Sabes had similar complaints during his tenure as well.
greatcaru28
Thankfully we have AA.
CravenMoorehead
Not gonna lie he’d look mad handsome in Giants colors but then again he’s a ridiculously handsome man 🙂
worthington
Swanson might be more willing move to 2b for a year as well which would work better with Crawford.
tedtheodorelogan
Crawford isn’t good enough to move younger players in their prime off of their natural position.
ericl
Swanson is a better defensive shortstop than Crawford. Why would you move Swanson to 2nd?
Old York
If they sign this guy, it better be for low dollars. The guy isn’t a superstar.
positively_broad_st
Swanson just got married this past weekend. His wife is a pro soccer player on a Chicago team. She also grew up in the Denver area. I wonder if these are factors on where he will sign. Swanson is more of a complimentary piece on a good team with an already deep lineup, so I don’t see him improving the Cubs but so much. It wouldn’t surprise me though if the Rockies did another big contract signing after last year’s addition of Bryant. Who ever knows what the Rockies are thinking? Personally I see the best fit is either back in Atlanta or with the Dodgers where he lengthens a lineup and provides a strong defensive achor at shortstop.
Mr_KLC
Astros may be looking for a backup shortstop behind our MVP. The name sounds familiar. Is this guy any good? 🙂
Appalachian_Outlaw
Who is this MVP you speak of? I thought Montel Vontavious Porter was a professional wrestler.
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AKA “The Great Hambino.”
websoulsurfer
Well, he can hit and he was a better defender than Pena, so yeah, he is good.
The Big Yo
Dodgers get permission to annul Trevor Bauer’s contract due to extreme circumstances. Bauer is now a free agent with an arb value of just $1.2mil. Sources say he’s signing for the Oakland A’s. Crazy world out there kids
case
I don’t think the Oakland market is where Bauer’s gonna find a fanbase that doesn’t care about his background because he’s good at baseball. Astros seems like a more logical landing spot, maybe Atlanta since they keep resigning Ozuna.
DTD/ATL1313
Atlanta re-signed Ozuna one time…
BigFred
Oakland had the Raiders for many years.
case
True, and they did become a haven for players with assault and DUI convictions, but the baseball fans aren’t really the same. Nearly every fight i’ve seen at an A’s game or in the parking lot involved some aggressively drunk guy in Raider’s gear.
DTD/ATL1313
A haven? Ozuna had already signed a long term deal when it happened. Who else exactly has been an issue for them?
case
Referring to the Raiders. Though note that a team always has an option to dump or trade a player, much like the Blue Jays did with Roberto Osuna. Fans appeared to support the decision as he was heavily booed his first time back.
tedtheodorelogan
To be fair, nobody is going to find a fanbase in Oakland.
case
They might find that Oakland doesn’t even exist. Reliable sources tell me it’s a government conspiracy to conceal the true size of Sacramento.
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Why is Bauer’s appeal process going to take a “month or so?”
websoulsurfer
It started in May. It may go a few more months. After a decision the Dodgers have the right to appeal.
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Wow I had no idea it started in May…What have they been doing all these months?? Specifically I wonder?
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Curious how many man hours have been allocated to this appeal…And what 7 months of day to day work looks like for all involved in the appeal.
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Does the MLBPA have 50 people working 12 hour days on this for him???
websoulsurfer
No. The MLBPA is not involved in his appeal. Bauer wanted his own lawyers to handle it.
The depositions, testimony and evidence have long ago been finished. Now it’s just a matter of making a final decision.
A buddy that still works in an FO in the NL Central said he would not be surprised if MLB drags it out until May of 2023 to make sure it’s too late for Bauer to catch on with another team to start 2023. Bauer is a cancer no team needs. A PR migraine. He also said that if the decision comes soon, Manfred may suspend him then for use of foreign substances on baseballs when he pitched. Bauer admitted that in multiple videos and tweets. He even demonstrated how he did it. He has no defense.
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Oh lovely. Then we get to look forward to the appeal for using banned substances. I can’t wait.
Edp007
He (Bauer ) Maybe a jerk and A-hole , but imo he got railroaded . The chick was a liar and set him up.
She liked banging Tatis better anyways.
case
His lawyers sound pretty sketchy to me. I googled the appeal case and a result popped up saying they posted a youtube video of the accuser smiling the next day. Your average incel might see it as proof of innocence but anyone in the court system will just see it as a juvenile attempt to appeal to his fanbase that’s putting an accuser at further risk of harassment.
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“Average incel” HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Case you just made my top favorite poster list with that remark!
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Perhaps 007. Perhaps my friend. IMO, once those initial pics came out it didn’t matter. They took on legs and a life of their own regardless of all else.
Gmen777
As critical I and 99% of the fan base have been on the FO I’d rather get nobody this year roll with Crawford for his last season, or look internally, and revisit SS next year. Swanson had a career year this year and I have zero faith he replicated it
goob
It’s a contentious legal process.
yan-key
Am I the only one who would take Swanson over Correa in a vacuum?
bag o ballz
maybe not the only one but certainly one of the only ones
websoulsurfer
Yes. Correa is head and shoulders above Swanson in talent level.
C Yards Jeff
I’d take Swanson over Correa and Bogarts. Much less tread worn off his tires when you add in minor league playing time of the three.
Jean Matrac
Seriously? You’d rather have Swanson, an inferior hitter and fielder, simply because he played 61 fewer games over a 7 year career, than Correa, over his 8 year career?
cbraves
I agree with Jeff. Dansby has got better each and every year. He may take it up another notch next year too. I truly think Correa is overrated. Not saying this because of his past or anything like that. Correa may have the better numbers in the past, but Dansby may have the better numbers in the future.
Jean Matrac
So you prefer Swanson over Correa, not because of his stats, but because you think Swanson will “take it up a notch”? And that Correa’s overrated because his stats are wrong or misleading?
websoulsurfer
I was in contact with him too. To ask for an investment in an idea I have once he signs his mega deal with the Cubs.
ericl
I’m interested to see if family plays into Swanson’s decision at all. His wife plays soccer professionally in Chicago. If he signs there, he’ll have more time with his new wife. Family is a factor for some players and not a big factor for others. Not sure where Swanson fits into this.
websoulsurfer
They just got married during the Winter Meetings, so it may be a huge factor. We will see.
olereb
Defensively consistent ss, offensively he is very inconsistent. He strikes out a ton, my thinking is AA has figured he could get similar results for less money.
TrillionaireTeamOperator
1) Dansby Swanson is probably the prime example of a player over performing in a platform season and wanting to get paid over nearly a decade for a performance he almost certainly will not repeat. He’s a lifetime 3.4 WAR player over 162 games a season and closer to 2.8.
He averages 146 games a season.
Basically he’s legitimately worth like $18M a season and I’d understand 2 years at $25M followed by 3 years at $19M and a 6th year at $18M for a 6 year/$125M deal or maybe 7 years/$145M but anything beyond that is an overpay.
2) Carlos Correa ain’t worth a thang. The guy is so overrated and his ego is so over inflated there’s no dollar amount or number of years or AAV that will ever satiate his ego, so there’s no offer that will satisfy him, even if he does take an offer rather than walk away with nothing.
I kinda hope Correa presumptively retires early under the logic that he’s too valuable to assign a dollar amount or total number of years to and that he’ll claim forever he’s the most valuable player and we can’t prove him wrong because there was never a finite contract attached to him that could be equaled or topped.
JoeBrady
prime example of a player over performing in a platform season and wanting to get paid over nearly a decade for a performance he almost certainly will not repeat. He’s a lifetime 3.4 WAR player over 162 games a season and closer to 2.8.
He averages 146 games a season.
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Not really.
His OPS+ was only slightly higher than his previous two years. He got higher marks on defense, but those metrics are inconsistent in the short term. K/W slightly worse, EV slightly better.
His career bWAR is only 2.8/650 PAs, but it is 4.2/650 over the past three years.
The 146 games per season might be accurate, but over the past 3 seasons, he leads MLB in games played.
utah cornelius
His OPS+ topped out at 115 last year!!! 115!!! His platform season. That’s all you need to know. Everything else is a distraction.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
If Mike Elias does not make a serious attempt to sign Dansby Swanson, he should be flopped lower than Whale Schiste
BStrowman
Disgusting.
I would hate if Mike Elias pissed money away on Dansby when we have multiple SS in our system that could be big league regulars for Pennies
websoulsurfer
In one hand you have a guy that has proven that he can play at an elite level in the other hand you have 2 guys that might someday turn into a decent player or that might completely flame out.
You know the old saying, don’t you? It applies.
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
@B Stowman
Disgusting??
SMH
Are the Orioles going for the playoffs or clipping coupons and pinching pennies??
BStrowman
Mateo was worth 3 WAR last year.
Dansby has had exactly one year that was substantially better than that.
In addition to that, we have two minor league SS prospects that could be regulars. Joey ortiz might end up developing into Dansby Swanson.
Pretty good placeholder in the interim. If we’re going to add—make sure it’s a pitcher or somewhere we don’t have guys coming. Dansby is not a 1 year move. That’s 6-7+ years of that payroll.
websoulsurfer
Elias was instrumental in the Astros drafting Correa, so if they approach either of the remaining SS on the FA market, it will be Correa.
I don’t see them making a push for either. The Orioles are going to go the AA route. Short term contracts unless it’s the kids. FA are already too old.
JoeBrady
IMO, it would be stupid to pay big money to replace Mateo. The O’s would be better maybe locking up a couple of younger guys. Or replacing someone like Watkins, with a guy like Rodon, will add more wins than replacing Mateo with Swanson.
BleedzBlue
padres should sign him. go on… give him 10/250! really round out that infield.
websoulsurfer
11/200. Put him at 2B.
JoeBrady
It’s always about price, but he’d be a good pickup for the SFGs. If they signed Swanson. they could still add Rodon, and still not bust their budget. I think they are a lot closer to the Phillies & SD than people think.
brat922
Let’s go Giants, offer on both SS’s and hopefully we will get one?!
cash3w
If he truly stays around $20M AAV, I think the Braves will give him that over six years and likely would’ve already (they’ve already offered $100M). Swanson is no Turner, but Turner is also not worth his deal, IMO. My concern is the amount of money teams are offering this year.
AndyWarpath
Signing Swanson and Benintendi would go nicely with their Haniger signing and go a long way towards shoring up both their offense and their defense without playing at the tip top of this sellers market.
flyinhawaiian
All this talk about Swanson signing/not signing with teams is hilarious! Bunch of geeks on this site trying to sound like they know better than any agent or GM!!
gfan
Yup bunch of geeks.
Move along then, nothing to see here, buh bye.
flyinhawaiian
Already have geek
JoeBrady
Bunch of geeks on this site trying to sound like they know better than any agent or GM!!
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You sound damaged.
1-If you think that the folks in here think they know more than the agents, then you are delusional.
2-Do you ever have conversations with other people?
*I’d I like the Raiders to draft Hooker with a high 3,
*I think inflation will be cracked by Q4 23.
That’s just conversation.
bravesnation nc
Cash3w is correct. Teams are giving all these years just to circumvent the CBT. The dollars and years handed out is ridiculous. The Baez/Story contracts started all this last year. No way Baez is worth that contract but the Tigers were desperate and they still suck. The Story contract too, he had shoulder issues and they were looking at moving him off of SS and he is a Coors Field guy. AA has a number and will not pay retail or overpay. Swanson needs to just stay in the A.
bravesnation nc
The Giants are buried in the west! Heck Arizona is making a little noise. They are a old team and are more than just a Correa/Swanson from competing with LA/SD.
Datashark
SD on paper is a World Series team, like the Dodgers have been for years – it took a 60 game season to make it a reality.
I would say in 2010, 2012, 2014 Giants on paper were never a WS team
Datashark
Lets face it – Carlos will go after bigger $$$ where Dansby is the one on sale on isle 10
Stats wise: they are very close but Carlos will give you more power with less K’s, but Dansby will give good power with speed on the basepaths.
Am not sure who the better fielder is because they have to match Crawford’s range to unseat him at least next year at that position
The Human Toilet
Cubs might actually whiff on both Correa and Swanson. Ooof!
SupremeZeus
It appears that if Swanson is interested in the Dodgers he will have to wait until the final disposition of Bauer’s appeal. This one might stretch out another month or more.
RobM
Buyer’s remorse will be quick to any team signing Swanson to a big contract. He’s a fine fielder, but I don’t see his bat as being anything more than average. Career year in 2022 that I don’t expect he’ll repeat.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I hope Bloom doesn’t sign him. He’s very overrated as a player.
Jean Matrac
My fear is the Giant’s interest in Swanson is due to pessimism about Correa. Swanson seems like plan B. Boras or Correa might be signaling that he’s leaning toward going elsewhere. For me, that would be a much bigger disappointment than not signing Judge, since I always felt Judge would stay in NY. On top of losing out on Senga, signing or losing out on Correa would be the difference between a good offseason and a disappointing one.
troutfishing
Dude why does Correa get thrown in with such big numbers? The dude really isn’t that special. Literally was dropped 3 times in our fantasy league because he was underperforming for most of the year then had one good month at the end of the season haha.
No way this guy should be making Nolan Arenado money.
bravesfan
I thinking the giants are out of this race now lol. But hey, maybe they want two great ss and just find places for them on the field and have a payroll that’s crazy
OhioDodger
Why not. The Padres did it.