1:05pm: The Giants announced the signing.
11:58am: The Giants have agreed to a two-year, $25MM contract with free-agent righty Ross Stripling, reports ESPN’s Jeff Passan (Twitter link). Stripling, a client of Excel Sports Management, will be able to opt out of the contract after the 2023 season. It’s the exact same set of terms the Giants used to reel in lefty Sean Manaea earlier this week.
The contract contains a $5MM signing bonus that’ll be paid out in equal $2.5MM installments — one in 2023 and one in 2024, per Joel Sherman of the New York Post (Twitter link). Stripling will also earn a $7.5MM salary this coming season before deciding whether to opt out of a $12.5MM salary for the 2024 campaign.
Stripling, 33, is surely a familiar face for Giants president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi, whose time as Dodgers general manager overlapped with Stripling’s time in Los Angeles. The veteran righty has served as a swingman for much of his time in the Majors, often functioning as a sixth starter with the Dodgers or with the Blue Jays, who acquired him at the 2020 trade deadline.
The 2022 season, however, saw Stripling step into a full-time rotation role when the Jays lost lefty Hyun Jin Ryu to Tommy John surgery. Stripling proved to be a godsend, making 24 starts and pitching to a 2.92 ERA in 123 1/3 innings out of the rotation. That’s an average of just over five frames per start, but Stripling’s results were nothing short of excellent.
In Stripling, the Giants will add a versatile arm who’s had success in multiple roles. He won’t overpower many hitters with a fastball that averaged just 91.9 mph, but Stripling offsets a below-average 20.7% strikeout rate with a solid 43.8% grounder rate and some of the best command in the Majors. This past season’s 3.7% walk rate was the third-lowest mark of any pitcher to throw at least 100 innings in 2022, and his 11% swinging-strike rate and 37.9% opponents’ chase rate at least suggest that there’s some strikeout upside even with the pedestrian velocity.
It bears mentioning that from 2020-21, Stripling logged an unsightly 5.14 ERA and 5.52 FIP in 150 2/3 innings between the Dodgers and Jays, due in no small part to a mammoth average of 2.2 homers per nine innings pitched. However, the long ball hasn’t been a prominent source of trouble for him outside those two seasons, and he registered a career-best 0.8 homer per nine frames this past season. Aside from that two-year rough patch, Stripling carries a sub-4.00 ERA in his other five MLB campaigns.
For the Giants, Stripling adds even more depth to an already strong group of potential starters. He joins the aforementioned Manaea as a complement to ace Logan Webb, lefty Alex Wood and righties Alex Cobb and Anthony DeSclafani. The Giants also enjoyed a nice rebound from swingman Jakob Junis in 2022, giving them at least seven rotation options on the big league roster.
It’s fair to wonder whether the addition of Stripling more formally removes the Giants from the bidding on free-agent ace Carlos Rodon, who opted out of the second year of his contract in San Francisco and has reportedly been seeking a deal of at least six to seven years in length this winter. Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle reported yesterday that the Giants remained in pursuit of Rodon even after agreeing to terms with Manaea, but Stripling further crowds the pitching staff.
Regardless of whether Rodon remains in the cards, the forthcoming additions of Manaea and Stripling position the Giants well in the event of injuries arising elsewhere on the starting staff. That’s critical for the Giants, given the health track records of several of their in-house options. DeSclafani tossed only 19 innings in 2022 due to a tendon injury in his ankle that ultimately required surgery. Wood and Cobb worked a mostly full slate of starts last year, but Cobb pitched just 158 innings from 2019-21 and Wood logged only 48 1/3 innings from 2019-20 due to shoulder and neck woes. Even Webb, who worked a team-high 192 1/3 innings in 2022, missed a few weeks in 2021 due to a shoulder strain.
After bringing Stripling into the fold, the Giants are up to a projected $157.6MM payroll for the upcoming season and a luxury-tax ledger just north of $180MM, per Roster Resource. They’re still more than $40MM south of their franchise-record $200.5MM Opening Day payroll and more than $50MM shy of the $233MM luxury-tax barrier. That type of payroll space sets the stage for another marquee addition, should the Giants find a deal to their liking. They’ve already added Manaea, Stripling and Mitch Haniger, in addition to retaining Joc Pederson on a qualifying offer, but the Giants have been linked to Rodon and are one of the primary suitors for free-agent shortstop Carlos Correa, so the Stripling pact surely isn’t their final move of the offseason.
damn i wanted him to go back to the jays
Me too.
The Guardians finished as 1st runner up. They’ll now pivot to Corey Kluber.
I remember when he was traded to the Angels for Luis Rengifo. Great trade for both sides bec a u s e…….wait, what? Oh yeah, never mind…..Arte Moreno doesn’t know what the f%ck he’s doing. Carry on.
The trade also involved Joc Pederson, Andy Pages, and Taylor Ward. Arte’s meddling might be a blessing in disguise.
Pages is a huge prospect
Yes, for the Dodgers. Andy Pages would easily be the #2 prospect in the Angel’s system, He is slotted just 2 slots down on the top 100 rankings that their top prospect.
That would’ve been nice, but Bassitt fills the same role—and probably offers a slight upgrade with more of a track record.
The fifth spot is a question mark, but I imagine the Jays are leaving it somewhat in flux until Ryu returns.
Ryu probably doesn’t pitch this year
Or maybe the Jays weren’t interested in paying him $12.5 million a year.
No…..Carlos! NYY needs some competition for Rodon or they’re going to outbid themselves!
I think Rodon’s biggest hold up is Rodon. Demanding a 7 year contract for a pitcher who has an injury history, never pitched 180 innings, and is now on the wrong side of 30 gives teams even like the Yankees/Dodgers/Giants cause for pause.
According to the article, it seems that Rodon is open to six or seven years. He’s finally realized that the seventh year is what’s holding up a deal, which will hopefully will be with the Giants.
Agreed and the price was right
Yea, and this was a rare bargain in an off season of overpays. Maybe he gave them a discount so he could come back to California.
Damn. Was hoping to see him back with the Jays
Let’s just face it nobody’s lining up to play for Jays, in precious Canada.
except for springer, gausman, bassit, ryu…
Wow sounds like the makings of a championship!
Yeah ok, Captain, because your Yanks are doing so well in free agency.
The guys who have never left their moms basements always think like this
@tiredolddude- and if they sign Rodon and Benintendi? Was it a failed free agency? I taste saltiness.
the saltiness is probably from that golden shower judge gave you.
Captain, I am a Pirates fan. We’re naturally salty
Yeah that roid filled piss all over him.
@Ricetto- sounds like you want in? Whatever tickles your pickle.
your mother and i are always looking for a third.
@Ricetto- what do you want to do to your mother? You sick perv!
If that happens it won’t be a failure numbers-wise, but right now that hasn’t happened so right now tiredolddude is right.
Didn’t say my mother. Maybe spend less time trolling the boards and more time learning how to read. Your mother would want it that way.
His mother likes it any way, all holes open for access.
@Still in talks- no better hole then your mouth tough guy, let’s get off of Mothers, since I’m still in talks with yours. No worries she’s all filled up!
@Ricetto- you sound like a bitter Giants fan? I guess you finally realize that none of these stars want to play for such of a “loser organization”
@Ricetto- Deep down you want it to be your Mother. So yes it’s definitely true you can teach an “old dog” new tricks, like go fetch my bone.
*THAN
Bitter Jays fan sorry. Again if you could read, you would have known that.
@Ricetto-oh that explains everything. Enjoy 3rd place next season in the AL East. Good luck you and Mom of course.
It’s amazing how people get banned from this forum for far less than these sick perverted comments you guys are making. Stick to baseball, please.
The Giants are now the biggest winners in the free agent market. Let the 2023 season begin now!
You overpaid like hell for Manaea but this was a pretty good deal.
@aspenner27- Newsflash: Manaea is a much better pitcher then Stripling.
They both suck.
I think Stripling is slightly better.
Stripling has a 10-4 season with a 3.0 ERA I would steer away from saying Stripling “sucks” but he is questionable.
Stripling is a former All-Star.
Stripling 2020-2022 WAR = 3.6
Manaea 2020-2022 WAR = 2.5
Yeah, they’ll both probably do really well. The team is still nowhere near the playoffs, even if they got Correa.
@CaptainJudge99- Newsflash: Manaea had a 4.96 era last season compared to Stripling’s 2.92.
Stripling is the better pitcher. Manaea just eats up innings. He’s a #5 at best. Stripling is a good addition.
@JCL10- Ok let’s see who has a better 2023 investigator.
Capn, Whatever you are smoking is better than what everyone else is getting because that is not close to reality.
Either that or you are a troll that just types whatever will get peoples goat.
The alternative is that you are dumber than a rock and I just don’t think that is the case.
I will be interested to see if stripling can replicate his 2022 season . As a Jays fan I watched his starts , he was incredibly consistent but he did also start throwing the change up to both sides of the plate as a feature pitch much more then he did in the past and spoke about this quite a bit . It will be interesting to see 2023 with hitters now more aware of his 1st pitch get me over curve and his change up if he can have the same success .
Hope he can , was a great Blue Jay .
LOL! Manae is better at throwing batting practice
Sean Manaea made the worst decision of his career by sticking in the NL West. That means he has to face the Dodgers, and the Dodgers absolutely light him up.
@BaseballisLife- stop basing on last years stats that Stripling is a stud pitcher. He really isn’t. Manaea is a much better pitcher, he was just lousy last season. He’ll likely rebound. Stripling is a #5 at best. You’ll see.
Being an all-star is a weak argument. There have been some pretty bad players who’ve stumbled into an all-star appearance over the years. Not that Stripling is a bad pitcher, but all-star game selections are a lazy way to compare players.
That small sample size of games vs the Dodgers isn’t very meaningful. Player vs team stats have a lot of randomness in them.
How is Manaea an overpay? Jose Quintana, zach Eflin, and Tyler Anderson are all getting paid more annually than him all on the same or longer deals. Heck even Mike Clevinger is getting paid the same annually as Manaea. You don’t have to like the pitcher, but nothing about the current market suggests that 2yr/24m is an overpay for Manaea.
You’re comparing Tyler Anderson to Sean Manaea?
For career numbers they are similar. Anderson finally had a great season last year. Was pretty much meh before that.
Their career numbers are very similar. Anderson is coming off a career year. There’s a reason no one thinks he’s a difference maker for the Angels. So yes, I think it’s an apt comparison.
Only if the comparison is someone worth signing (Anderson) versus someone that is a very risky sign (Manaea)!
Anderson 2020-2022 WAR = 6.o
Manaea 2020-2022 WAR = 2.5
MAYBE they are saying that because all of those pitchers are better than Manaea and his 4.96 ERA?
Anderson is a risky sign as well. Will he repeat 2022 and his 4.3 WAR or will he more resemble the 1.7 WAR of 2020 and 2021? Like I said, before his 4.3 this past season he was pretty much a journeyman muddling through. The Angels will find.
He’s not an overpay at all. He just had a horrible second half last year, and that’s stuck in their minds.
2 years 25 “overpaid like hell”
I don’t think that’s even possible with a contract that small.
It is possible if it is Carlos Martinez!
But it is reasonable for Stripling.
That’s it? A lot of teams will be kicking themselves by not beating the Giants offer
He must not have liked Canada…
If he didn’t, he won’t like San Francisco any better.
At least in Canada you get healthcare
It’s not all it’s cracked up to be
If the healthcare is so great, why do many Canadians come to the US for surgeries and other treatments?
Because they can afford it and don’t want to wait.
Canada’s healthcare sucks. Look at their embrace of euthanasia. Abominable.
weird comment
SF has much better weather, and Mexican food
California is too hot in the summer.
Also toronto has Mexican food lol
SF is the coldest place to play in summer in all of MLB
Dustyslambchop, it’s 55° Fahrenheit and foggy with a cold wind off the bay most nights in the summer in SF at the ballpark
The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco – Mark Twain
Except he never actually said that.
Also the coolest, by a long shot.
Love that quote. Its one of those that probably isn’t attributed correctly, but is absolutely on the money.
I went to a game at Candlestick my first time in the Bay Area and the client said bring something warm. Coming from the San Diego area, I brought a sweater. He said Oh no, that is not enough and stopped at an REI and bought me a heavy coat. I thought he was crazy until about the 7th inning.
It may be apochryphal, but its true. Anyone who has lived there or vacationed there can attest to that fact.
Remember when everyone said the Giants were getting Judge/Rodon/Bassit/Bell/Turner
Now they’re just settling
hardly. Stripling was awesome last year
Starting to think Carlos Rodon isn’t resigning with the Giants. I guess Ross Stripling is better then Rodon?
mitch haniger is way better than aaron judge when you squint and think about it real hard guys
Better than not having Rodon or Stripling
theyre not signing rodon now
Mitch Haniger will be very good for the Giants. He doesn’t need to be Judge.
Much better at getting injured in obscure ways…
I hope so. Great when healthy. M’s gonna miss him.
Thanks Pete’sView! You are too level headed for most of the over reactors on here! lol!
Haniger was on KNBR this morning and gave a GREAT interview. You can find it as a podcast on knbr.com I think, worth a listen if you are a Giants fan!
Nice. Thanks
Starting to think? Someone’s slow in the head.
Failing to acquire top tier starters and signing Manea and Ross is settling. Giants certainly aren’t “going for it”
Zaidi trying anyway he can to get out of the Giants fans doghouse. Going to take more than Haniger, Manaea, Stripling and Sabol.
Redwolves, that Farhan is in the doghouse is rehashed online pablum. I love him, he’s doing great rebuilding our farm while still putting a competitive team on the field. Dead balls and injuries plus Buster’s retirement made 2022 a .500 year but Zaidi is fine. Judge went back to the Yanks and Senga chose the Mets but Zaidi/ownership ponied up money. That’s not on him.
Zaidi is smart enough not to be throwing money away on bad free agent contracts. He takes the correct approach. He will go all out for a true superstar like Harper or Judge. But he’s not getting stuck paying a Robinson Cano type contract that will inevitably turn into an albatross. The only free agent contracts that consistently pan out for teams are A) Huge deals for superstars like Harper, Cole, or Machado, and B) Cheap bargain deals like the ones he has signed guys for so far this month.
I’m a Giants fan and the only player from your list that we wanted was judge!! Rodon has been mentioned but not at $30 million or for a 7 to 8 year deal
Speak for yourself. Some fans understand the market and prefer to watch good players and a winning club every year. Enjoy farhan’s ragtag bunch of under .500 players though I guess. I didn’t know it was your money they could have been spending, but good for you. Must be nice to be rich and also extremely cheap.
DJboy28 2 — Speak for yourself. Judge was not the only player Giant fans wanted. In fact, many of us preferred they spread the money around. With Nimmo gone, they got to sign Correa.
Another Giants 4A League signing,
smart, i wouldnt want to play in this city for longer than a year tops either. hope they both can use the park for a year to their advantage and parlay it into big deals.
boastrogot, SF is gorgeous and it’s a great place to play. Zaidi is signing smaller deals on purpose because he doesn’t want to block prospects from the farm, it’s not that players don’t want to be here more than a year.
What prospects are those? SF ranks 18th in farm systems
boastrogot — What do you know about San Francisco? It’s one of the greatest cities in the world. And Oracle is either #1 or #2 most beautiful park in MLB.
It’s not one of the greatest cities in the world, Homer.
Absolutely incredible city. Love it. My wife and I visit there at least once every other year.
Thanks again Pete’sView 🙂
Speaking truths!!!!
Top 5 at least. Great ballpark and world class, if cold, city.
Have not visited every park, but of the 24 I have visited that are still open, the Giants Ballpark is top 6 for sure.
My top 3 in no particular order are Camden Yards, Petco Park, and PNC. Throw in the Mariners park and the Twins park in the top 6 too.
I didn’t include the historic parks, Fenway and Wrigley, because they really aren’t great parks they are just awesome because they are so old.
First time I’ve heard someone say san fran is one of the greatest cities in the world.
Must be true.
On the one hand, this is a nice depth move for the Giants rotation. On the other, it must be the final nail in the coffin on Rodon signing elsewhere. At this point, the Giants gotta sign Correa or this offseason will end up as a huge bummer
Even with Correa this team sucks
Yep. At least signing him could start to change their earned reputation as a cheap ego driven front office that won’t spend, but it’s not happening so don’t worry.
You forget the soft, whiney, snivelling fans part of that reputation.
Geez, another pitcher-friendly deal. Striping will probably pitch well with the Giants, and then he’ll opt out like everyone else Farhan signs for our rotation. Oh well, I guess this is good for one year!
Or will be traded at deadline for propects
Have we not learned from these 2yr opt out deals? Anyone finds success and we lose them.
Better to get a good performance for one year then not get it at all.
-Signed, an Orioles fan
Elias is just waiting the market out to sign Rodon… right? *sobs*
That’s by design, they want to give the illusion of trying to compete without ever having to spend any real money. Open your eyes, it hurts at first but it’s liberating to see what a grift us fans are being sold.
My god Chpsss, you need a Snickers. Cheer up. I’m a perfectly happy fan. Can’t wait to see Schmitt, Harrison, Waites, and maybe Vaun Brown this year. Reggie Crawford is going to be fun. I’d rather our kids have a spot that be blocked by some overpaid bloated contract.
Solid addition
25 million a year for 2 scrubs? Why not Rodon 3 years 105 million?
Offer Correa 10 years, 300 million. Trade Luciano, Matos, McCray, Villar for Reynolds?
Time for a new GM who will tell management this is what we need to do to compete. against the big boys.
Stripling is far from a scrub. He has a career 3.78 era and had a resurgent year last year. The Giants probably signed him in hopes that this resurgence continues so that they can TRADE him at the deadline to a contender. Sorry, but signing Rodon, Correa, and trading your best prospects for Reynolds still doesn’t make this team a contender. That would only make this team mediocre. The magic of the 107 win team is gone… and quite frankly I think it was an anomaly and quite lucky. DON’T trade your top prospects unless you area ready to win now.
Because Rodon wants a minimum 7 year contract
Because Carlos Rodon wants more than that.
Maybe the Manaea deal is sus, but Ross Stripling for a $12.5 million AAV is a terrific signing.
You think Rodon will sign a 3 year deal? Yeah, right.
Correa wants more than 10/$300. More like 10/$350+.
Clear out all our prospects for Reynolds? That’s a great way to set the team back another five years. And when Reynolds plays just okay and Luciano starts crushing it in Pittsburgh the Giants are worse than when they traded Reynolds a few years ago.
Dodgers are only getting worse at this point. It won’t take much for teams like the Giants and Padres to compete with them.
anytime ok to good pitchers go to San Fran or SAN DIEGO it’s a career win. He will now pitch extremely well in that park. His second half numbers were really good
The one year stopover deal in SF is going to continue to work out well for the Giants and the players.
I agree. Everyone’s a winner.
Looks like Rodon is moving on
Unless he accepts 2/25.
@stretch123- And why shouldn’t he be?
My gawd, the money being thrown around this offseason is enough to make my head spin……25Mil for Ross Effing Stripling???
I guess inflation is real.
Thats $12.5M a year, that is not much at all for a cromulent 4th or 5th starter.
Depends on what team you are talking about. If the eight big market teams, yes. The rest of the league, not so much.
“Cromulent.” Well done. Yankees fans will be checking their dictionaries for that one, after attempting to spell it a few times
Z man in constructing the Dodgers of the past 🙂
The Giants are loading up on no 4 SP’s. Sean Manaea and Ross Stripling. It’s not a bad strategy if you are in the you can never have enough SP camp. But $25 mill over 2 years is a lot of cash. These signings tend to be good for the regular season, but usually bomb in the post season as the Giants have no # 1 or 2 SP that you have confidence with to go against the top 3 SP of the Mets, Braves, Dodgers, Padres, Cardinals, or even Phillies.
The cardinals do not belong in the same category as the other teams you listed with strong staffs. They may have the fourth best rotation in that division behind Milwaukee, Chicago, and Cincinnati.
Slider:
Milwaukee obviously has the best rotation in the division. St. Louis absolutely has a superior rotation to Chicago and Cincy though. The Cubs rotation has had 1/2 of a good season. Jury is still out on them.
And I say all this as a Cardinals fan who does not like how our rotation is constructed.
Post season?
The Giants have to worry about the regular season first. They aren’t guaranteed a spot.
They won’t sniff the postseason for the rest of the decade with farhan at the helm.
Snickers Chipssssss! You need one!
Logan Webb is at least a #2.
Webb is a bona fide ace. Two excellent years on a row. Just rewatch his two playoff starts against the Dodgers if you have any doubt.
Giants gonna be watching the race for the 3rd WC spot with envy, won’t have to be concerned about any playoff losses IMO
Solid signing by SFG
Where is Aaron Judge?? Or Correa??
Fire Ross Atkins.
So Heaney, Stripping, and Manea get the same deal (except for incentives for Heaney). All of them seemed likely to get 3 or 4 years in Heaney’s case, yet they took this type instead. Maybe Wacha will do the same. The first 3 have excellent strikeout to walk ratios and homerun issues, though.
But we’re still in on Rodon Yankees.
So get that offer higher.
10 and 4 while starting 24 games? What’s up with that? Was he used as an opener?
Well let’s just hope we get last year’s Stripling and not the one from the previous three years, then he was turning in some pretty ugly ERAs.
Probably just had 10 no decisions
He only goes through the order 2 times. Usually 5 innings every time. Lots of no decisions.
So he’ll fit right in with the rest of the Giants rotation minus Webb.
Everyone saying he was awesome last year, and he was good, but every start he was limited too twice through the order.
To sum up the offseason for Red Sox fans:
“Red Sox are interested in A through Z” 12:47pm EST
” A through Z sign with another team” 1:21pm EST.
Anyone else win 4 of the last 19?
Nope.
Henry wasn’t being cheap those years.
2:25 PM EST: They sign players AA through AG
Strong signing. I actually think all the additions the Giants have made have been solid. We haven’t given away billions for injury-proned old dudes, and still have a good shot at Correa.
Keep telling yourself that,
Read through the lines. The Giants have zero shot at Correa, or any top line FA for that matter. The Giants will now be forced to strip mine their already suspect farm system to trade for talent because, according to Farhan, players hate the city of SF.
As a local, I get what Zaidi was saying. The city of SF is now crap. However, the Bay Area is awesome, that ballpark is incredible, and the Giants are a very successful franchise. I just think it’s hard to say ‘I’m going to SF’ when LA, San Diego and NYC (both teams) are in win-now mode and spend like crazy. The Giants are still a year or two away.
This at least gives the Giants a lot of starting options. I wouldn’t give any pitcher over 5 years. Rodon asking for 7 years is utter lunacy. Whoever pays that will regret it.
jekporkins—well said, thank you
gmenfan, you saying players don’t want to play here is a false social media narrative, players love SF and the organization. Go listen to Haniger’s interview on KNBR today. He said he spoke with tons of current and retired players before signing and he was astounded (his word) at how well the players and their families are treated here. Everyone raved about playing for Kapler and Zaidi. Spend sometime offline and stop regurgitating this same tired incorrect narrative
From Zaidi himself in the SF Chronicle yesterday …
“When we’re doing our research on free agents and we find that players aren’t really that happy even coming into town for a three-game series, they’re probably not going to be that excited to play there for a long time. So I think that’s part of what fueled our strategy of targeting guys with Bay Area ties.”
“I don’t know if we would say San Francisco is an idiosyncratic market, but I do think maybe it is more that way than it was 20 years ago,” president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi said at the GM meetings last month. “I think it’s a little bit of a polarizing place among players in terms of the desire to play there. This is sort of totally independent of the competitive situation, but geography, politics, whatever.”
I’m a Giants fan and bay area native, and I don’t believe the anti-SF rhetoric that’s propagated across the country. But when your GM is talking/thinking like this, you’re totally screwed as an organization.
There is a key word missing from that paragraph. He didn’t say “we find that players aren’t really happy coming into town”, he said “we find that IF players aren’t really happy coming into town….” There will always be the Aubrey Huff types that can’t tolerate equality and diversity and those were the players he meant.
@EBJ – I don’t think it has a thing to do with diversity and equality. I took what Zaidi said to mean players aren’t excited to come here because of what downtown SF has turned into – a haven of crime, drugs, and homeless. It’s not exactly a place you want to go as a tourist, and it’s not exactly a showcase to show potential players.
If I was showing this town to Correa I’d avoid SF. Ferry him over to Sausalito for the views, down to Hillsborough to see what type of mansions he could buy within a short drive to work, and put him up for the weekend at the Ritz Half Moon Bay.
Haniger, Manaea, and Stripling are all nice players, but what a letdown from what their fans thought they were getting.
Hey Wagner, I’m not let down at all. How many of those bloated long contracts ever work out? I’m stoked with what Farhan is doing
Go by season tickets then and tell me who else is stoked when you are by yourself at the games!
frugal, I go to a few games every year with friends. You can still get great deals. I’m not rich either.
Agnes: Then I’m happy for you and your positive outlook!
Right on Wagner, jump on the positive train with me, it’s a beautiful view from here 🙂
I’m on the train. I’m a Cardinals fan and I’ve been very happy with the Contreras signing, despite the clamoring from the naysayers lol.
SaN fRanCIScO SuCKs cAUse I haVE oPInIONs pOLitIcALly.
Literally nobody said that. Take your special needs attack to your journal
No, people are. Same with Canada.
Is this signing because the Giants know they will lose out to the Yankees?
Seems to be the going rate for a 3-5th starter about $12.5M annually…good signing unless he has injury history, which I don’t believe he does.
Uh-oh – Chaim missed this one too. He offered the same money too….only it was for 5 years. Poor Chaim
2/$25 million seems to be a popular contract this offseason.
Been ragging on Farhan, but if anything, the rotation has more depth now, and should be solid across the board.
Hopefully they are settling on these pitchers due to them going and grabbing Correa???
I’ll miss him, but I figured he’d be gone after Bassitt signed. He’s not going to strike out 15 guys a game but he’s a really fun pitcher to watch and I wish him the best.
Thanks bluejays92 for a friendly kind post that isn’t full of bitterness. You are refreshing.
Why does every FA get an opt out with the Giants? Basically using them as a springboard elsewhere. Says something about the franchise.
Please we don’t need a Oakland 2.0 team… no they are worse they actually trade and get next to nothing in return
The opt out works for the Giants because the players know up front that they’ll be issued a QO if they have a good season, so their second season salary would be approximately 20mil and if they have a great season they can be flipped or know they have a big, big payday next offseason with the Giants receiving a late second round compensatory draft pick if they don’t re-sign them.
Manea and Stripling have both basically signed one year contracts with the Giants at bargain rates, so big wins for the Giants in my opinion.
Farhan, Taylor Rogers please.
Thanks Wilmer for explaining this to those who can’t seem to grasp the concept lol! Instead they fly off the handle with conspiracy theories. It’s really not that hard to understand or that big of a deal
Say it ain’t so. Jackie retired rather than playing for the Giants. Now a good, kind hearted, solid former Dodgers pitcher is voluntarily going to wear a battery chucker uniform. Simply don’t understand kids these days. What has the world come to?
You really cannot blame Zaidi for balking at the contracts that have been issued so far this offseason. I mean, the giants’ roster has been tied up for how long with contracts of aging players. I would be a little gun-shy as well.
Dodgerfan, 55 year giants fan here. I dont believe the Giants expected the bloated free agent contracts. Maybe they should have and probably regret saying publicly that there would be no limits to signing the big names. But 8, 9 10,11 year contracts should be avoided. Hopefully, Giants dont follow suit
Are the Dodgers as weak as these whiny fellow giants fans say the Giants are? I’m pretty sure they got to their greatness by avoiding wasteful spending. So farhan/ownership are hoping to build a similar model. Yet, they get criticized. Makes no sense. The Dodgers opened up the pocketbook for Bauer and they regret it. So they learn from hindsight that there is too much risk. Hopefully, the giants can reach the Dodger success level someday but there’s a long way to go for my Giants. They definitely won’t get there with 10 yr, $300 million contracts. Padres? Tatis? How’s that working? Soto? He’ll be gone by trade deadline. Machado? He’ll opt out after 2023. Boegerts? Signed till he’s 41? Dodgers are the standard. I just hope Giants follow Dodgers lead, but yes, long way to go.
Oops, I forgot about Betts contract
Manaea, Stripling, Haniger= $93 million. Better than spending $360 million on 1 player. They won’t win if they sign Correa, same with Judge. Rotation looks decent. And Kyle Harrison is almost ready. Still have money to sign a few good players and keep developing the farm.
Stripling’s deal is similar to Manea’s, but I like it better. If Stripling pitches below 3.50 ERA in 5.0 IP stints, the Giants will be very happy with him – albeit likely just for next year. But with him plus five starters already, I don’t see the Giants give out the necessarily rich contract to Rodon either.
It is interesting that Toronto did not make more efforts to keep Stripling after this year. His role with the Giants seems to be similar to what he would have contributed for the Blue Jays; San Francisco obviously was willing to invest more.
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Good now he can finish that no hitter he started
Yep, Stripling’s major league debut he left the game in the 8th inning with a no-hitter intact. You guessed it. The Dodgers lost the game.
Instant karma
I agree, I have lived with in 50 miles of downtown nearly my entire life (was in San Diego from 99-08) and while the ball park is great the city is overpriced and dirty, it was kinda cool in the 80’s and 90’s it’s a hell hole now.
Not…Not. I went there this summer for 4 game series. First time in a while. I used to go 1 or 2 times a year. I’m not sure what the city has done to remedy things but this trip, was BY FAR, the most pleasant one EVER. I drove all around the city and did a lot of walking. I have never seen the city this clean. And efforts to curb street homelessness are working. Very few homeless in the places I used to see plenty. There were encampments near the City Center, but I was told by workers at Oracle that housing for the homeless has greatly reduced homeless in the streets. Covid has actually generated a different atmosphere there. Less traffic. Homeless housing. Less dense tourist presence. For good and bad reasons, I guess, taking in the city has changed. BTW, players who don’t buy there, and there are many, still live there obviously. And they live by Oracle in a very nice part of SF. There are many stadiums that are located in unpleasant neighborhoods. Oracle isn’t one of them. So, Not, your “hell hole” is way off.
Who’s going to hit?
Good signing. He’s very solid and consistent.
Giants are smart…not a giants fan either.
Stripling, albeit he’s not as good as Rodon, he’ll be highly appreciated eventually by Giants fans. Had the Jays won game 2 versus Seattle then Stripling would have started game 3. Was very good for the Jays as a 6th starter in 2021, was even more valuable as a starter in 2022 (pitched as the 3rd best starter on the team).
Will be missed in Toronto. Great team player. Free agency $$$ were more than Jays wanted to spend on him, but solely based on the other needs of the team.
For whatever reason when players are traded to SD they have not hit the ground running with their performance, not Bell, Manea, Hader, or Soto just in the last year.
Conversely and especially with starters the SF Giants’ staff has really helped a long line of SP, get healthy, be more productive working with the SF staff and then getting PAID. If I am Manea or Stripling, when SF showed interest, yes please.
In the case of Manea I’ve love it if he opt’d out in 2024 that means he had a great year AND SF can slap a QO on him 🙂
He’s probably not the most exciting name and I’m sure some SF fans are disappointed hoping for some bigger names, but he’s a real pleasure to watch on your team. He has excellent command of all 5 pitches. The fact he’s still a 5 pitch pitcher with that kind of excellent command while not having had a settled role for the majority of his career, really says something. He had a disastrous’20 and start to ‘21 and then remade himself between starts and was excellent from that point on.
He’s also an excellent media guy. He speaks honestly and candidly. You’ll get to know him and you’ll get to like him. There’s a reason Blue Jays fans are a little disappointed he got away even though on paper Bassitt is an upgrade.