Jean Segura is the Marlins’ biggest addition of the offseason, even though Miami is known to have looked into several other options before inking Segura to a two-year, $17MM contract. Some of those other free agent and trade targets are already off the board, and it appears as though signing Segura ends any chance of an Eduardo Escobar trade, as Barry Jackson and Craig Mish of the Miami Herald report that the Marlins had some talks with the Mets about a possible swap.
Timing is everything in trade negotiations, and it seems as though the Marlins checked in on Escobar after the Mets reached their 12-year, $315M agreement with Carlos Correa. Had the Correa deal been finalized fairly quickly, there would’ve been a greater chance of Escobar being moved, as the veteran infielder suddenly would’ve been out of a starting job in New York’s infield. However, the Mets’ issues with Correa’s physical have led to stalled negotiations in finalizing or perhaps even reworking the deal, to the point that other teams have reportedly re-entered the picture. As such, it isn’t surprising that the Mets have opted to hang onto Escobar, leaving the Marlins looking elsewhere for a more immediate lineup fix.
More from around the NL East…
- Phillies president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski spoke with reporters (including Alex Coffey of the Philadelphia Inquirer) about his club’s trade with the Tigers today. Moving three players was “not easy for us,” Dombrowski said, but the Phillies were tempted by the chance to add a quality, controllable reliever like Gregory Soto. The Phillies first talked Soto with the Tigers during the Winter Meetings, but negotiations seemed to cool until this past Thursday, when Dombrowski said that Detroit PBO Scott Harris called to revisit a Soto deal. In regards to the other players involved, Kody Clemens figures to take over one of the bench spots left by Nick Maton or Matt Vierling, and Dombrowski said the other spot could be filled by a future smaller acquisition, or perhaps by a player already in Philadelphia’s system.
- Sean Murphy’s six-year, $73MM extension with the Braves made him the latest Atlanta player to sign a long-term deal within the last year, giving the Braves yet another key player locked up for the majority of the decade. It is a strategy that president of baseball operations Alex Anthopoulos has pursued “for the parameters that we have, for the market we have, for what we have to work with,” and also because of the players’ own buy-in. “These guys are choosing to stay here, and they don’t have to. I think that’s important, and it’s a credit to Atlanta and the organization across the board,” Anthopoulos told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Justin Toscano and other reporters earlier this week. “There’s risk to this, no doubt about it, when you lock yourself into this…But we do like the fact that guys can just worry about going out and playing. They don’t have to worry about making a certain salary, getting certain statistics and so on, and they know they’re going to be here.”
Incoming Mets fans, mad that Cohen has to overpay for anyone to wanna play there…
Mets rhymes with Jets, Mets.
Mets rhymes with Jets, Nets
What an astute observation
Actually 2 astute observations.
Is there success in repetition?
You can say that again. And again.
Well if the last 30 years are an indicator then no repetition does not lead to success but Billionaires spending a lot and plenty of preseason newspaper headlines.
Wow…didn’t realize that Soto was -0.1 war. Must be all those walks…
The extensions the Braves have given to C, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, right, centerfield, and Strider could blow up–sure anything is possible. I believe this team are set up to win for the next 6 years at least. Really really amazing.
Your front office continues to amaze me with these trades and extensions. You guys are gonna be good for a while, and for steals.
I dont see the Cubs paying the money to keep Happ.
Especially with players like Davis, PCA, Canario, Cassie, Alcantara all between making squad in Spring to 2 to 3yrs away at most (Cassie)
The Braves extensions may be the new ideology, or the demise of the present. It’s a great idea but injuries & behavior remain to be seen. Have at it AA, I like the risk.
While there is risk in any extension or FA contract the risk is born on both sides of these deals. Moreover, most of the players who took these deals are very young so injuries are less likely. Lastly, as they start to get a bit longer in the tooth ATL can hedge new players come up from a rejuvenated farm system since they don’t need to draft for much specifically right now and the penalties from the Coppy era of Braves baseball are gone. So draft pick compensation is back and so too is their normal spending limits on the international market.
It’s what the Indians did in the early-mid ’90s. Sign the young core for long term (cost controlled) contracts. Most of them worked out for both the players and the organization. Is it possible for some of these deals not to work out? Yes. Even so, I’m pretty excited to watch the Braves for the foreseeable future.
The Cardinals have been bying out the arbitration years of the players they view as core for decades. They did it with Albert Pujols which was probably the best contract extension in history. On the downside, they did it with Paul DeJong and he immediately cratered at the plate. Matt Carpenter was another one who cratered the last 3 years of his extension.
I understand that Miami has been In talks with Cubs about a package of Ian Happ and Nick M with the hope that Miami Marlins can get both players under. Long term contract
I can only think that return to Cubs on trade both young superstar would be very high. Maybe 3-4 Top prospects would have to been coming to Cubs
Jed Hoyer said in November his plan is to try to get an extension done for Happ. Madrigal I could see going though.
Makes ZERO sense.
If Cubs can’t sign Happ, the Marlins certainly aren’t going to be able to, and trading any talent for one year of Happ when the team has to leapfrog Mets, Braves and Philliies is ridiculous.. Furthermore, Madrigal brings nothing to the table given Miami is trying to upgrade its power and offense., and already has Chisholm, Rojas, Wendle and Berti..
I would think that Miami Marlins only make the deal for Ian Happ and Nick M If they can get both players sign on new long term Deals.
I think It would take about 175-200 million to get both players on new deals
Happ 6yrs = 120 Million
Nick M = 6 yrs = 70 Million
Lol
Who in their right mind would give Nick Madrigal 70 million dollars?
He’s worth about half of that. &im not sure why you’d even given him that. You have him in arb for 4 more years and he’s not the type of player who gets expensive in that process.
What happened to the Bauer comments section?
@chipper – The thread was suspended for disciplinary reasons, and then designated for oblivion.
Probably a wise idea from the little that I have seen on here (the comments sections) thus far..
Looks like smarter heads prevailed….Admit I went to the bottom of the article after the first paragraph……….
In hindsight asking the “moderators” to police the comments might be too much….
Either way, I’ll be looking forward to see who signs him….He was a jerk before all THAT came up….but it will still be interesting….
I think he’s going to Asia.
Agree with you Braves83. This offseason as we all have seen has been ridiculous with the yrs/dollars these players have secured. Great for the players, however, I feel more than a few are going to be horrible down the road. Paying a SS 25M plus at age 37 plus is ridiculous.
What happened to the Bauer comments section?
The site always suspends comments on that type of topic. Imo, it’s a good idea to do so. Always turns into a virtue signaling free for all on other sites that allow “discussion” of domestic violence issues. Just how many times do we need to read opinions that Bauer’s and other DV offenders behavior was/is despicable?
It’s been moved to the dark web.
Postponed due to stormy opinions on both sides,
Head for a shelter, & avoid any sexual innuendos
I’m not going to post a Bauer/innuendo type pun..I’m sure it was on the banned thread anyways
There’s probably an ongoing, lively discussion over at 8kun (the former 8chan).
NYM need one more pen arm and a 4th outfielder that can spell Marte and Nimmo. Odds are both with spend reasonable time on IL. Unless he has remarkable turnaround, Khalil Lee doesn’t look like he can adjust to MLB pitching. Those things are still available now on FA. Would expect them to make at least a modest deal before pitchers and catchers.
As for the Marlins, Marlins fans have already figured out the front office effort. Supposedly be in on so many players that they don’t land for one reason or other, then when they show up to Spring Training in several weeks, they’ll say, “We tried.”
And right now, the Segura signing looks every bit like a move to silence the fans the certain members of the local media.
Detroit trading relievers (Jimenez and Soto) for prospects. That’s how you raise your floor and build depth.
AA is a monster, has proven so much that as a baseball fan makes me confident his decision making shouldn’t be questioned. And sure you can question his decisions, but I think the chances of him proving you wrong (generally speaking) are very high.
Man I hate the Braves. I’ve noticed hate = respect in sports.
Without a doubt, a schizophrenic answer.
You’re kinda different dude
Lots of truth in this comment. I completely respect AA and the Braves while also hating them.
As much as I didn’t like the Soto trade at first I think I like it more and more. Should’ve gotten more in return but he walks a lot of batters and is always rocky when he comes in for the save. Kinda like Roller Coaster Todd Jones was. Tiger fans were joking about rebuilding the rebuild and that’s exactly what is happening with this trade. I almost bought some tickets the other day but was like not at that price. I mean I’ll still go to a couple games just because it’s Miggy’s final season and there’s still Torkelson and Greene.
ActionDan;
Tigers coaching staff is questionable…
The new POBO traded a few bullpen guys that with proper handling can be very good. They weren’t going to mean much to that Tigers team. Fixing the bullpen isn’t the what the Tigers need to address now. Getting some decent position players is. The Tigers are 2 years away from even being respectable.
Scott Harris made some nice moves.
I remember the “lean” yrs in ATL late 2000’s early 2010’s it was brutal watching. The past few yrs I’ve watched and experienced Truist Park. Fans have showed up and packed the place. No 3 in attendance in 2022 even with a smaller seating capacity. AA and the rest of the the leadership has these guys buying in to the organization. Players want to play there and know they May leave some dollars on the table.
The Braves have a very curious model. I wonder how these Contracts will look in ten years. I like what they’re doing. It seems cost controllable and the players seem to like it there. Freddie Freeman is pissed he Left. I say good luck to them.
All I care about the Marlins doing right now is adding 2-3 bullpen arms, preferably at least 2 that can pitch in high leverage situations. Everything else doesnt matter until that happens, unless of course they were to make 1 or 2 incredibly short sighted/at best questionable trades, which it does seem likely based on the reports of their involvements
Looking forward to what the Mini Roidrocket can do in Philly.
How long until one of the players the Braves extended holds out until they renegotiate his contract?
My bet is on Acuna.
You don’t hold out to renegotiate in MLB. This isn’t the NFL
Oh and why not? What exactly is stopping him?
If a player tried to hold out, the team would put him on the restricted list and he wouldn’t get paid anything. That would only be done in an extremely toxic situation, which the Braves don’t have. Derek Bell initiated Operation Shutdown, and it ended his career, which was mostly over anyway.
Acuña and Albies are already barely getting paid anything. At some point their respective agents aren’t going to just let them play for like no money.
Their agents work for them, not the other way around. I’d be really surprised if they welshed on the deal they’ve got.
@jim: When Acuna signed that deal, it was the largest contract ever signed by a player his age. What should the Braves do now? Pay him more because the economics have changed since the deal was signed? If they think he deserves more, the organization can pay him more by adding years to the deal. Can’t hold out on guaranteed contracts. Their “respective agents” have no right to entice players to welch on their deals. “Play for no money”? What a childish pov. They’re being paid millions of dollars. They signed those deals for guaranteed money vs the risk of injury and non-performance.
Love the ATL template
Can only Imagine that front office is chock- full of winners all the way down to the interns
Next Braves extension Bryan Reynolds.
@Neon Cop
Weren’t the Phillies a wildcard team? Didn’t they make it WS?? All playoffs are real.