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MLBTR Poll: Will Lack Of Extension Interest From Cubs Lead To Marcus Stroman Trade?

By Anthony Franco | June 12, 2023 at 5:46pm CDT

A little over six weeks from the trade deadline, contending clubs are beginning to identify target areas for midseason upgrades. Pitching is always in demand in the middle of the summer. D-Backs’ GM Mike Hazen has already gone on record about his desire to upgrade the staff; virtually every playoff contender surely feels they could use another arm or two.

On the rotation front, few candidates stand out more than Cubs’ righty Marcus Stroman. The sinkerballer has a $21MM player option for next season. Given his current trajectory, re-testing free agency seems the likeliest course of action. Stroman is pitching well enough he’s on pace to handily top a one-year, $21MM contract as a free agent. He’s angled publicly for an extension that’d take the opt-out off the table, though recent comments from the player cast doubt on that possibility.

Over the weekend, Stroman tweeted the Cubs currently “(weren’t) interested in exploring” an extension despite multiple attempts from his camp at Roc Nation Sports to initiate talks. He followed up in a chat with Patrick Mooney of the Athletic, saying “there’s been nothing from (the Cubs’) side. No offers, no talks, really, at all.” While there were reports that preliminary conversations had taken place during Spring Training, those evidently haven’t progressed. Stroman made clear the lack of negotiations haven’t resulted in any animosity towards the organization and stated he’s still hopeful talks will get off the ground.

“Yeah, I have no problem with them. There’s no problem. It’s just, like I said, there’s been no offer. There’s been no extension talks,” he told Mooney. “My agent and I have been very open, pretty much multiple times a month, saying, ‘Hey, let’s sit down. Let’s talk. Let’s get something done.’ There’s been nothing from their point (of view). … Yeah, I would truly love to stay a Cub. You never know how it’s going to play out. I’m also very aware of that, too. That tweet wasn’t like a shot.”

The situation has some parallels with last summer’s Willson Contreras saga. Contreras had angled publicly for an extension for months but the Cubs never seemed keen on getting a long-term deal done. Chicago wound up holding onto the catcher beyond the trade deadline but allowed him to depart in free agency, recouping a compensatory draft choice once Contreras declined a qualifying offer.

Of course, the team isn’t obligated to pursue an extension simply because the player is seeking one. Chicago wasn’t alone in having questions about Contreras’ defense. There’d similarly be risk in a long-term investment for a pitcher who recently turned 32. One can make a reasonable case for the Cubs preferring to go in different directions in both instances.

Yet the lack of extension talks raises real questions about whether Stroman will be donning a Cub uniform in August. Few viable rotation trade candidates are having as productive a season. Over 14 starts, Stroman has pitched to a 2.42 ERA across 85 2/3 innings. His 21.7% strikeout rate is narrowly a career high and almost exactly league average for a starting pitcher. Average swing-and-miss is more than enough for Stroman, who’s one of the sport’s premier ground-ball specialists at his best.

This season, the 5’7″ hurler has kept the ball on the ground 61% of the time opponents have put it in play. That’s back in line with the peak numbers he posted as an upper mid-rotation arm for the Blue Jays. Stroman’s grounder rate had dipped to a “merely” very good 50-54% range between 2019-22. It has been elite again this year, tops among the 102 starting pitchers who’ve tallied at least 50 innings.

Stroman’s arsenal isn’t much different than it was in prior seasons. He’s averaging a career-low 91.3 MPH on his sinker, while the velocity on his breaking ball and cutter aren’t much changed. He’s more consistently locating at the bottom of or below the strike zone than he had over the past few seasons, however. Hitters are having a tough time elevating the ball, diminishing the amount of damage they can do. No starter has allowed a lower slugging percentage than Stroman’s .277 mark.

Even in the absence of eye-popping whiff rates, Stroman would be an upgrade for any contender seeking starting pitching help. He’s at least better than any team’s back-of-the-rotation options and would be a strong candidate for a postseason start elsewhere.

A playoff appearance looks unlikely to come with the Cubs this year. Chicago enters play Monday carrying a 28-37 record. The dismal NL Central picture leaves them within shouting distance — they’re six and a half games behind the first-place Pirates — but they’ve dropped 24 of 38 since the start of May. They haven’t looked much better than last year’s 74-88 club. Projections from FanGraphs, Baseball Reference and Baseball Prospectus place their playoff chances between 8% and 14%. The season isn’t over, but the Cubs are longshot contenders as things stand.

The Chicago front office isn’t going to pull the plug yet. President of baseball operations Jed Hoyer said last week the team was still uncertain about its deadline direction, no surprise with a month and a half of intervening games to potentially crystalize their position (link via Maddie Lee of the Chicago Sun-Times). Selling looks likelier than buying barring a surge from the team in the next few months.

If the Cubs are reluctant to engage in extension discussions with Stroman, there’s little reason not to put him on the trade market if they fall out of contention. Whether the Cubs made the right call in holding onto Contreras last summer is debatable, but they at least weren’t left empty-handed when he departed. The QO ensured they’d receive a compensatory pick, which landed 68th overall in the upcoming amateur draft.

That fallback isn’t available in Stroman’s case. The collective bargaining agreement prohibits players from receiving multiple qualifying offers in their careers. Stroman received and accepted the QO from the Mets over the 2020-21 offseason. That prevents the Cubs from making one. If Stroman tests free agency and signs elsewhere, Chicago wouldn’t get any compensation.

The player option complicates his trade status somewhat. Teams considering a Stroman deal would have to anticipate him declining and going to the open market. He’s not a true rental, though, as the option looms as a potential downside for clubs in the event his production collapses or he gets injured down the stretch. That’ll diminish the return the Cubs could’ve expected were Stroman simply in the final year of his contract. Still, there should be plenty of interest from contenders given his current form and a potentially lackluster trade market.

There aren’t many slam-dunk rotation trade candidates. The likes of Lucas Giolito, Jordan Montgomery and Jack Flaherty could wind up being available. Perhaps things eventually become dire enough for the Phillies or Padres to entertain moving Aaron Nola or Blake Snell, respectively. Eduardo Rodriguez has a tougher version of the Stroman option issue; the Detroit southpaw is guaranteed three years and $49MM beyond this season but can opt out at the end of the year. Corbin Burnes, Dylan Cease and Shane Bieber are all controllable beyond 2023.

Stroman may wind up being one of the summer’s biggest names to watch. Unless the Cubs change course — either by playing well enough to get back into the postseason mix or showing a genuine interest in an extension — he figures to find his name in plenty of rumors during deadline season.

What does the MLBTR readership anticipate happening? Will Stroman still be a Cub two months from now?

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  1. roiste

    2 years ago

    It’s going to be an absurd seller’s market for starting pitchers this deadline. If the Cubs don’t want to keep Stroman and continue to be well out of contention, there’s really no reason to hold onto him – because he can’t be QO’d they wouldn’t even have to take the draft pick into account

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    • rondon

      2 years ago

      On the surface, that makes sense. But I think Hoyer really believed they were past the ‘let’s trade vets for farm help’ stage. Wisdom, Mancini and Barnhart among others, were always gonna be placeholders, but he has to be disappointed in where they are at this point. I think trading Stroman would have the same effect on the Cubs that trading Hader had on the Brewers last season. No, the Cubs aren’t contenders like the Brewers were/ are, but I think it would demoralize the guys they CAN build around.

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      • avenger65

        2 years ago

        It’s a little different. Stroman can win you a game every five days while Harder can hold onto a win several days a week. Losing Hader from a team close to making the PO demoralized the Brewers and they couldn’t hold onto a PO spot without arguably the best closer in the game. If Stroman left, it wouldn’t have anywhere near the same effect on a non-contending, rebuilding team.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          2 years ago

          My comment does not relate to Marcus and Josh, but more generally, I think starting pitchers are more valuable than closers. The Brewers traded Hader but they eventually picked up Contreras out of that deal. And they had Williams.

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      • roiste

        2 years ago

        Well, if he’s serious about moving on from that phase then he should just extend the guy. Letting him walk for absolutely nothing isn’t gonna help team morale either

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    • LouWhitakerHOF

      2 years ago

      This is exactly what the Cubs were hoping for when they signed Stroman. The best case scenario for the Cubs then trading him

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        2 years ago

        It all depends on how much Stroman wants. Re-signing him is the best option is the payout ids based on his results over the past three years rather than just one-third of this season – and takes into account his age at the end of the contract’s term. If Stroman wants to replace his one year at $21 million with four years at $100 million, then I am all for adding the three additional years.

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  2. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    The Cubs really seem to believe they can contend in the short-term, which I find silly, but whatever. To this end I’m not sure they are serious sellers at the deadline.

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  3. The Natural

    2 years ago

    Stroman has no business negotiating in the media. Bad juju. In addition, the Cubs would be idiots to negotiate now while he’s in the middle of a non repeatable career year.

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    • MagRupe

      2 years ago

      He also did this in Toronto. It’s what he does. And it’s crappy.

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      • Spaced-Cowboy

        2 years ago

        Publicly airing feelings or showing a desire/commitment to a team?

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        • Curveball1984

          2 years ago

          It’s not just that. He’s trolling Twitter agreeing with critical tweets of Jed and the Cubs FO for not extending him. Not only did he do it in Toronto, he did it in NYC as well. Now Chicago. It’s childish & toxic at worst and unprofessional at least. He remains a prima Donna. But he has been KILLING IT on the mound. Cubs should trade him for a nice piece or two “Rays style” and Stro should be able to net the big payday he always wanted this off-season. Both sides get what they want.

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        • BeeVeeTee

          2 years ago

          A player airing out that you want an extension when he is ready under a contract he already signed is a selfish thing and not focusing on the team. Once Stroman does not get his way then it will get to his head and it will effect him while taking the mound. This reminds me of Tim Anderson’s nonsense asking for an extension the last few seasons when he is under contract until 2024 that he signed back in 2017. Look at how this is effecting Anderson now. In a nutshell, the best thing is for the Cubs to trade Stroman when he is publicly airing how he wants a contract extension.

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          2 years ago

          The public comments are not a big deal – it is all about whether his asking price is reasonable or not. Cubs should not overpay but if they can get a good deal that only goes through age 35 then why not?

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  4. sacrifice

    2 years ago

    Stop handing out money MLB, Most are bums after the big payday.
    We can’t afford to watch, lower your ticket prices and cable fees instead.

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    • Tigers3232

      2 years ago

      I got news for you. If they started paying the players less tomorrow the fans would b lucky if 5 of the teams passed a penny on each dollar of the savings on to fans.

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    • YourDreamGM

      2 years ago

      Player salaries don’t increase prices unless those players increase winning and makes more people want to watch. Even then that number is capped by cities demographics. Most people aren’t paying cable bills. Most cities you can go to games for free or cheap. Many season ticket holders don’t attend every game. Get mlb tv for 100 bucks a year. Go to friends house or bar. Take a road trip to a cheaper city. Try ballpark pass thing if available. Avoid expensive concessions.

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  5. angelsfan4life

    2 years ago

    Either him or Hendricks will be on the Angels by August

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    • jacl

      2 years ago

      the Angels will be out of contention by then. they may be out of it before July even starts. they always finish a few games above or below 500. Never truly bad but not any good either

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    • jacl

      2 years ago

      there’s no place for him in the Rangers rotation, not even as a fifth starter. maybe they can put Heaney in the bullpen to accommodate another starter. much rather have Stroman in the rotation than Heaney

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    • kellin

      2 years ago

      Who are the Angels giving up for Hendricks or Stroman? Rengifo, Walsh and Adell?

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      • Curveball1984

        2 years ago

        Hendricks needs some more starts to up his value. I could see the Rangers going after Hendricks for P.O. depth.

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  6. bigjonliljon

    2 years ago

    It’s more than possible that during the preliminary spring training talks, the Cubs learned his cost demands and felt it was not a number they liked.
    Therefore, what’s the point in talking?

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    • avenger65

      2 years ago

      bigjonliljon: The Cubs can’t have known Stroman would have this kind of year so far during ST. Things change. The cubs have not.

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      • Curveball1984

        2 years ago

        And they shouldn’t. Other than Darvish, the Cubs have been smart in not keeping some of these guys. The Cubs should’ve kept Rizzo, but not @ $70M+. He’s a DH at this point, and if the Yankees weren’t loaded with DH’s, he’d be there. Had Rizzo taken 2yrs. / $32M, I’m sure the Cubs would’ve reupped him. Schwarber is the left-handed Wisdom… at $20M a season for the Phils. Pass. Bryant is making $185M… on the Injured List. Pass. And Baez has turned into Jose Hernandez… with less power… @ 140M. Pass. Willson Contreras bat has evaporated as well. Cubs were smart as hell not to resign them.

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  7. Fred K. Burke

    2 years ago

    I would like to see Jed Hoyer traded at the deadline. How about Jed Hoyer for a case of Old Style and a case of Vienna Polish Sausage.

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    • Cohen’sLastWhiteTooth

      2 years ago

      Vienna Polish Sausage!??

      My Babcia would beat you senseless for saying something so insulting.

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      • Fred K. Burke

        2 years ago

        Sorry to offend my fellow Europeans.
        My dad was born in southern Austria. My mom in southeastern Poland.
        For those who may not be aware Vienna Sausage is a company around Chicago known for sausages, hot dogs and condiments.
        viennabeef.com/

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  8. ThatOneCubFan

    2 years ago

    I feel the cubs can really easily go to being a .500 ball club by the end of the year, but no one cares how they do this year. They are a team to watch for next year, and can easily be division champs. But they need something that resembles a bench to have any hope of being competitive, so they absolutely need to trade off Stroman and bellinger

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    • drasco036

      2 years ago

      Exactly, if either player loves playing for the Cubs enough they can sign back here as a free agent. A four man outfield of Bellinger, Happ, Suzuki and PCA while rotating through the DH spot doesn’t look bad at all depending on the cost.

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    • pt57

      2 years ago

      Cubs aren’t going to contend next year.

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      • drasco036

        2 years ago

        I wouldn’t bet my house on them contending but I also think it’s short sighted to say they won’t.
        PCA I believe could be up late this year or at least be in AAA with the inside track at center next year. Wicks and Brown both have a chance to crack the big league roster this year or next, Heuer should be back this season to help shore up high leverage situations in the pen.
        Without pulling up cots, I believe the Cubs have around 70 million coming off the books? With the luxury tax increasing, that’s plenty to make significant improvements to the returning roster.

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  9. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    2 years ago

    As N Orioles fan, I am interested

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  10. Not the real Sports Pope

    2 years ago

    If I’m the Cubs I’m in no rush to rearrange and trip over the furniture in my office to accommodate him

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  11. drasco036

    2 years ago

    Weird title for an article considering its Stroman that is going public about an extension, not the Cubs so a lack of extension interest from the Cubs perspective won’t lead to a trade, the fact the Cubs are well below .500 is what will lead to a trade.

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    • avenger65

      2 years ago

      Drasco: On the other hand, why should Stroman take the fall? If he said nothing about the cubs disinterest in signing him to an extension, next year when he’s on another team, cub fans can’t say he didn’t want to stay in Chicago. This way, the blame will fall on hoyer.

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      • Spotswood

        2 years ago

        Take the fall…? How do you know Stroman isn’t asking for $125 over 4?

        Kris Bryant wanted $30-$35M. I didn’t blame the Cubs in the least for passing.

        This is why it’s a problem when players try to negotiate through the media. You don’t have to be real savvy to knows there’s 2 sides of a story. To accept Stroman as the good actor blindly is silly.

        If the Cubs don’t extend him, fine. The “blame” is on them. If he wants to stay, he has $21M on the table and time to discuss the situation with Hoyer. The moment he came out whining, I immediately became skeptical of his motives

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        • MLB Top 100 Commenter

          2 years ago

          I agree it is all about the money as to what makes sense. If Stroman wants three years added on at $21 million per year, twenty teams in the league should jump at that that. If he wants four years added on at $27 million per year, no one should call him. Two and a half months does not define a career. But if you look at his body of work over the past two and a half years, it has been quite good.

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        • Spotswood

          2 years ago

          I guess my point has nothing to do with Stroman being able to throw a ball, and everything to do with knowing both sides of the story.

          Cubs tried to extend Bryant early. He didn’t want to discuss. Then Bryant said they hadn’t offered him anything. Then the story was they didn’t offer $200M. Then the story was “Well, it wasn’t waaay over $200M”. Then all the fans cried cause the Cubs didn’t want to win cause they wouldn’t give Bryant $280M. And Rizzo $125M and Baez $200M and it was a crime that they didn’t offer Contreras $100M.

          The team really can’t say anything at this point. The player (Stroman) can run around to any reporter who will listen and tell the narrative that he wants. And there always seem to be a bunch of fans that blindly jump to eat it up… Rabble, rabble, rabble the GM sucks, the team is cheap. All the while there’s a zero chance we have a true understanding of the situation.

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    • Spotswood

      2 years ago

      Drasco, agree, this is a headline and article you see on Fansided. This type of article only diminishes the quality of a typically solid site.

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  12. Texas Outlaw

    2 years ago

    The Cubs will probably do a full fire sell if they fall any further back.

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    • avenger65

      2 years ago

      They already did that. How do you like the cubs now?

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  13. EBJ

    2 years ago

    Hope it’s to my team.

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  14. FullMontilla

    2 years ago

    Trade and build – signing him for the term and $$ it will take won’t make any sense for the Cubs, or most other teams for that matter

    He’s hot and the Cubs can capitalize on that – take the bird in hand with Stroman!

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  15. pt57

    2 years ago

    The Hoerner and Happ extensions make to sense if they have no interest in re-signing Stroman.

    If the lose Stroman, they’d have to find 3-4 reliable starters. That will take some time, especially if they expect to fill internally.

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    • Spotswood

      2 years ago

      Cubs could extend Stroman for 4 years and get zero prospects.

      The Cubs could trade Stroman for prospects and sign Giolito ( or anyone) for 4 years in the offseason.

      So what do the extensions for Hoerner and Happ have to do with Stroman’s contract?

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        2 years ago

        He is just saying if you do not intend to compete, why extend Hoerner and Happ. I agree on that with Happ, but Hoerner was a cheap early extension the way that Atlanta does it so well. And yes, if the return on Stroman is good enough – say like Diego Cartaya from the Dodgers for rentals of Stroman and Leiter – then pulling the trigger on the trade could be even better than a sensible extension.

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        • Spotswood

          2 years ago

          I read the initial comment to mean, without Stroman the Cubs don’t want to compete, so the Happ/Hoerner extensions are a waste. I’m trying to explain that trading Stroman has nothing to do with the Cubs wanting to contend next year or in 2025, or 2026. And completely independent of the extensions to Happ/Hoerner.

          Let’s say the Cubs trade Stroman. This winter they sign Nola, Sonny Gray, David Robertson, Chafin and Harder. Then sign Matt Chapman Bellinger and Lourdes Gurriel.

          So, if they don’t extend Stroman and trade him, why does that mean that the Happ and Hoerner extensions don’t make sense?

          How long is it going to take to replace Stroman? Sometime in December this year, so roughly 6 months.

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  16. LFGMets (Metsin7)

    2 years ago

    While Stroman is talented, his mouth and antics make him a net negative. Most fans don’t want to be called racist by their team’s own player. This guy has some Napoleon complex where hes short (compared to other players) and tries to make up for it by talking a big game. Lets not forget he got suspended for steriods when he was in the minors. Not a nice guy

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    • drasco036

      2 years ago

      A.) Napoleon was not short.
      B.) Stroman is a great guy and has been embraced whole heartedly by the fans and team. Really, only racist fans dislike him and they attempt to hide their racism behind the comments you’ve previously made about him in other posts.
      I haven’t seen a single Cub fan say they dislike Stroman, nor have I seen Jays fan say anything negative about him.

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      • avenger65

        2 years ago

        lfgmets: How tall was Napoleon? How tall is Stroman? What’s your proof that he called fans racist? Do you have a quote or an article or recording of the incident? Do you know when it happened? Unless you can answer all of these, you wouldn’t make a very good investigative reporter. I personally hate the cubs, but fair is fair.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          He doesn’t like Stroman because he speaks out on social injustice and supports black rights on social media. He claims he isn’t a nice guy despite having a charity in New York, that he spends times chatting with fans before his starts, that he helped inner city youths get food during Covid when they didn’t have school. He claims he is a bad teammate despite him constantly complementing his teammates and giving credit to them for his success. He hates Stroman shows emotion on the mound and wears a bandana even though him and some other players have made the conscious effort to show more emotion, to show more personality and make baseball more fun and entertaining for young fans. He hates he opted out of the 2020 season, calling him selfish and hates he accepted the QO even though he made no money for the 2020 season and spun a terrific 2021 season for the Mets.
          Napoleon was estimated to be between 5’5 and 5’7 which was average height for the time and Stroman is 5’7 per baseball reference.

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        • LFGMets (Metsin7)

          2 years ago

          @avenger 1. A Napoleon complex is a common term refering to short people who act like they are the biggesr in the room. It doesn’t matter how tall Napoleon really was.

          2. Stroman is one of the shortest players in the league

          3. Link to the tweet where Stroman called the Met fanbase a “racist fanbase”. images.app.goo.gl/m6BNkVwidC5PGZGM7

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        • LFGMets (Metsin7)

          2 years ago

          @drasco036 Stroman is not a team player. He opted out during the covid season because it was a contract year and he was coming back from an injury. He decided he didn’t want to risk ruining his stats meanwhile the team needed him. He didn’t opt out because he was scared of getting covid, it happened a month into the season. Average height for an MLB pitcher is 6 foot 2. Stroman is 5 foot 8. After games he wears his wrestling belt when he wins a start. Hes also the most outspoken player on social media. There is something mentally wrong with him

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          Way to not defend yourself by attempting to defend yourself. Literally everything you said was judgmental and pure speculation based on, dare I say again, your bias.

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        • Curveball1984

          2 years ago

          Any player who refuses to talk to the media until he has his “swag” on is a Double. And yes he is a racist. The man called for the death of all Italian people in New York. Why? I dunno. I guess he watched The Many Saints of Newark and thought all of that historically happened. It didn’t. He’s a Moron. Great pitcher. But like Trump, Tweeting is not his strong suit. He spends a bit too much time on there.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          Allegedly liking a tweet that refers to a guy as a wop is a far cry from calling for the death of all Italian people.
          And what “swag” are you referring to? His height doesn’t measure heart apparel? Which happens to be his charity, how dare he!
          Do you have an issue with the swag chain? Or the blazer? Or the other home run celebrations?

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          “A Napoleon complex is a common term refering to short people who act like they are the biggesr in the room. It doesn’t matter how tall Napoleon really was.”
          You’re using ignorance to justify your ignorance.

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      • rocky7

        2 years ago

        The fans don’t live with him on a daily basis nor share an intimate clubhouse, or deal with him from a management perspective on a daily basis either…..any team he’s been on has made a beeline to the door when the possibility of signing him longterm comes up…..that usually means there is something there beyond the talent that a team doesn’t want to deal with.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      2 years ago

      LGGMets

      Stroman is much cheaper than Scherzer and Verlander and pitching better than either this year. The Mets might come crawling back to Stroman except they’re not in the playoff mix either. Maybe Scherzer and Verlander need to wear a du-rag.

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  17. ohyeadam

    2 years ago

    Why top dollar while he’s having a career year and you’re not in the hunt. This isn’t the year for the cubs, he’s not likely to be around next year. Trade him. It’s not like he’s an icon of the franchise or won a ring there

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  18. SFBay314

    2 years ago

    Giants should have signed him, and will trade for him. Adios Mitch

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    • Curveball1984

      2 years ago

      Are you talking Haniger? Lolz. Cubs are gonna want one of the best prospects in baseball for him. Plus the Giants aren’t getting past the D’Backs or Dodgers. 3rd Wild Card is gonna come out of the East. The Marlins are the one who should be picking up the phone.

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  19. kma

    2 years ago

    Another good Cubs starter with a player option for 2024 if he pitches 100 innings is Drew Smyly. I don’t think they’ll necessarily be trading for just prospects but players with more years of control.
    So, Bellinger, Stroman, Smyly, probably Leiter Jr. if they want to sell high could all be traded.

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    • drasco036

      2 years ago

      I hope Mancini can turn it on and the Cubs can move him. I thought it was a rotten signing at the time and he hasn’t done anything to change my opinion aside a good week or so.

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    • Ejemp2006

      2 years ago

      Hello Cubbies, this is Tiggers. We eat half of Baez contract and send him to you attached with Casey Mize. You send us Cody Bellinger. We have need at least one guy who can hit and give our Tigger youngsters good juju swing spirit. You get high upside young starter with injury history and… Baez…

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      • BeeVeeTee

        2 years ago

        Why would the Cubs take Baez when they have Hoerner at second base and Swanson at shortstop? Mize could be a good pitcher once he comes back from Tommy John surgery so it doesn’t seem like Tigers want to give up on him just yet.

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        • Ejemp2006

          2 years ago

          Baez can do 3B or 2B? I heard he wants to be your best and always contribute wherever you need.

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        • Curveball1984

          2 years ago

          The Cubs have NO REAL 3B. Baez was always destined for 3B. He’d been a great D Pickup if the price is right. Problem is his bat is anemic now. The bigger question is why the Tigers make that deal. They suck.

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        • drasco036

          2 years ago

          Baez has always been destined for 3rd base? How so?

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    • Spotswood

      2 years ago

      I’ve seen conflicting reports on the terms, but I believe Smyly just signed a 2-year $19M guaranteed with a 3rd year $10M option for ’25. I’ve seen a number of things and the 2-year plus mutual is what I found on Spotrac and multiple articles like this-

      marqueesportsnetwork.com/cubs-bolster-rotation-by-…

      I assume Marquee has the correct terms.

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  20. solaris602

    2 years ago

    The Dodgers SHOULD make a deal for Stroman sooner rather than later – like this month, but you get the sense that this year they’re only planning on using organizational depth to fill holes. They also need an OF, so we’ll see where that goes. I really believe his likeliest destination is back home to TOR. The Jays pitching depth is shallow and stretched, and they’re in win now mode. Not sure who’d be going the other way in that deal, though – maybe Varsho

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    • Curveball1984

      2 years ago

      Stro would definitely help the Jays. But what do the Cubs get? Jays aren’t gonna trade from the MLB roster, Manoah’s trade value is ‘nil right now, and I’m not sure the Jays can win. The Rays and O’s both are two of the best teams in baseball this year. The Yanks pound-for-pound have been better than the Jays, and the Jays have been neck & neck with the so-so Red Sox. So…

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  21. outinleftfield

    2 years ago

    Yes. They will trade him to the Angels for Jo Adell straight up. LMAO.

    If they hope to win anytime soon, they need pitchers of his caliber. Are they giving up or building for run in 2024?

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  22. Slow day at work

    2 years ago

    I hear the Mets need pitching help…

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  23. padam

    2 years ago

    Each team he’s been with seems to not be interested in going beyond what they signed up for with him. He was bitter leaving NY, and I’m sure he will be off Chicago forces him to take the $21M or leave.

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  24. YourDreamGM

    2 years ago

    I would love to sign extension with cubs as long as I can get paid as much as I think I will get in free agency.

    Good no extension by Cubs. If he was willing to sign at a bargain they would be interested. Trade him for prospects and sign him or someone else next year. No reason to pay free agent money and lose prospects.

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    • NicoHoerndawg

      2 years ago

      Yeah this is what I was gonna say. Trade him and get some prospects. Let him see what he’s worth on he open market and maybe the cubs still want him, or maybe someone else becomes more enticing as a replacement.

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  25. BeeVeeTee

    2 years ago

    The Cubs are going to watch the progression of Steele and his current injury before deciding to trade away Stroman. This is just my assumption since Steele can miss some time or he can come back healthy. Odds are Steele’s injury is going to have him misssome more time and the Cubs don’t want to jeopardize his future, where trying to make a push for this season does not make sense so trading away Stroman is the best option.

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  26. Curveball1984

    2 years ago

    I hope he gets traded. Cubs aren’t there yet, and his trade value is as high as it’s ever been. He’s pitching his best baseball. They need to do what’s best for DA CUBS. Not Stro. Trade him. They could always resign him in the offseason.

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  27. RodBecksBurnerAccount

    2 years ago

    Cubs would be dumb not to trade him. There won’t be many sellers at the deadline, but plenty of buyers. They will be overpaid for him.

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