The Diamondbacks have added a key arm to the bullpen. Arizona and Seattle announced a trade sending Paul Sewald to the Snakes for infielder Josh Rojas, rookie outfielder Dominic Canzone and infield prospect Ryan Bliss.
Sewald was one of the top bullpen arms available. The right-hander has broken out as one of the game’s best relievers since landing in Seattle two and a half years ago. A minor league signee over the 2020-21 offseason, Sewald cracked the Seattle roster by May ’21. He had an excellent run in the Pacific Northwest, pitching to a 2.88 ERA over 171 2/3 innings. He kept his ERA at 3.06 or better in all three seasons.
He has paired that run prevention with very strong swing-and-miss numbers. Sewald punched out just under 35% of opposing hitters with Seattle. That includes a 35.5% strikeout percentage with a 2.93 ERA over 43 innings this year. His fastball only sits in the 92-93 MPH range but has well above-average spin despite a lower arm angle. That movement profile has translated into big whiff tallies. Sewald has gotten swinging strikes on over 14% of his offerings in each of the past three seasons.
Among 176 relievers (minimum 30 innings), Sewald ranks 10th in strikeout rate and 39th in whiffs. His 8.3% walk rate is acceptable and he has dominated hitters from both sides of the plate. Sewald is a fly-ball pitcher who has given up some homers in past seasons, but this year’s 1.05 HR/9 rate is almost exactly league average for a reliever. That well-rounded, consistent production quickly pushed him up a strong bullpen hierarchy. He has worked as the M’s primary closer this season, collecting 21 saves in 24 attempts.
Arizona has searched for that kind of reliability late in games for a while. The Snakes had one of the league’s worst bullpens in 2021-22. It hasn’t been quite so disastrous this season, thanks in part to free agent additions of Andrew Chafin, Miguel Castro and Scott McGough that have all worked out reasonably well. The D-Backs didn’t have anyone of Sewald’s caliber to lock things down, though. Kevin Ginkel and Drey Jameson (the latter of whom is out for a while with an elbow injury) are the only Arizona relievers with a sub-3.00 ERA. Left-handers Chafin and Kyle Nelson are the only pitchers with a strikeout rate above 30%.
Bolstering the pitching depth has been a priority for an Arizona club that has dropped eight of its last 10 to hold a 56-50 record. The D-Backs have fallen out of the projected playoff picture after leading the NL West for a good chunk of the season. They’re only a game out of the final Wild Card spot, though. Sewald will presumably step into the ninth inning for skipper Torey Lovullo. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweets that Arizona could look for another bullpen addition and is unsurprisingly still searching for rotation help over the next 24 hours.
Seattle’s position in that standings isn’t that dissimilar from Arizona’s. The Mariners are 54-51 and 4.5 games out in the AL Wild Card picture. They’re certainly not buried, though president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto acknowledged two weeks ago the club hasn’t played well enough to be aggressive deadline buyers. They’re reportedly open to offers on the likes of Teoscar Hernández and Ty France and have given some consideration to dealing from their stock of talented young starting pitching.
The primary purpose in all those talks is to subtract from an area of surplus to add controllable offensive help. The bullpen certainly qualifies as a strength. Seattle relievers are fourth in ERA and trailing only Houston in strikeout rate. Sewald was a big part of that success, of course, but the likes of Andrés Muñoz and Matt Brash are thriving in high-leverage capacities. Muñoz seems likely to take over the ninth inning with Sewald headed out.
In exchange, Seattle nets the kind of upper level hitting talent they’d been seeking. There’s perhaps no clear “headliner” of the deal, but all three players could factor into the mix in relatively short order. Rojas and Canzone have big league experience, while Bliss had recently worked his way to Triple-A.
Rojas, 29, is the most well-known of the trio. Originally acquired in the Zack Greinke 2019 deadline blockbuster with Houston, Rojas developed into a productive bat-first utility option. The left-handed hitter combined for a .266/.345/.401 batting line in over 1000 plate appearances between 2021-22. He’d never rated especially highly as a defender at any stop but had enough flexibility to move throughout the infield and into the outfield corners.
While not a franchise building block, Rojas looked like a quality role player. However, he has had a difficult 2023 campaign that pushed him into more a depth capacity of late. Rojas has hit only .228/.292/.296 over 216 trips to the plate and remains without a home run on the season. A walk rate that had sat north of 10% is down to 8.3%, while his strikeouts are up a few points to 23.6%. The D-Backs optioned him last month; he spent the bulk of his Triple-A time on the minor league injured list before returning to the majors when Evan Longoria went on the IL over the weekend.
Rojas has primarily played third base in Arizona but has a clearer path to playing time at the keystone in Seattle. Kolten Wong’s struggles have left the M’s with very little out of second base this season. Righty-swinging José Caballero has had a fine debut campaign but is nearly 27 and was never a top prospect. Rojas adds a left-handed complement to Caballero and Dylan Moore and could occasionally see some reps behind Eugenio Suárez at third base.
It’s a buy-low flier for Seattle that also helps to balance the trade financially. Sewald is making $4.1MM this season, his second-to-last year of arbitration. Around $1.37MM remains to be paid out. Rojas is playing on a $2.6MM arbitration salary, his first of four arb years as a Super Two player. He’s still owed around $867K through season’s end. Arizona will take on roughly $500K in salary, thereby preserving a decent amount of financial flexibility for further deadline pickups.
Rojas could be a non-tender candidate after the season, though he’ll get a couple months to try to secure his roster spot at T-Mobile Park. He could be joined immediately by Canzone, a left-handed hitting outfielder nearing his 26th birthday. He has struggled over his first 41 big league plate appearances but has had a monster year in Triple-A. Canzone mashed at a .354/.431/.634 clip with 16 homers through 304 trips to the dish in Reno, making him one of the top hitters even in a favorable offensive environment.
Canzone is limited to the outfield corners but clearly an accomplished minor league hitter. He could factor into the short-term left field mix. Jarred Kelenic is out into September after breaking his foot, while AJ Pollock is on his way to San Francisco. Canzone still has all three minor league option years remaining.
Bliss is not yet on the 40-man roster. A 2021 second-round pick of Auburn, he’s a right-handed hitting second baseman. Bliss struggled in his first full professional season but had a monster .358/.414/.594 showing in Double-A this year. That earned him a spot in the Futures Game and a recent bump to the top minor league level. Baseball America had ranked him the #16 prospect in a strong Arizona farm system, crediting the 5’9″ infielder with a hit-over-power approach and quality range as a defender.
Arizona gets a year and a half of control over the impact late-game arm they’ve been seeking for some time. Seattle is clearly open to reshuffling some veteran talent on the roster but is following through on their stated goal of adding upper level hitting. The M’s aren’t completely throwing in the towel on 2023 while adding more controllable talent.
Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic first reported the D-Backs were making progress on a Sewald trade. Jeff Passan of ESPN reported the deal as being finalized, while Piecoro first had the return of Rojas, Canzone and Bliss.
Images courtesy of USA Today Sports.
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
DBacks are getting a great one. I’m a bummed out M’s fan but hoping the return is good!
Rickover50
30 something soon to be free agent. Makes sense
wayneroo
Seattle had one more year of control over him.
Degaz
Still way too much for him
Pete'sView
It looks like Seattle’s return is solid.
ddj05
This looks like it gives you a 2b over Wong and now allows you all to trade Teo and replace him with Dom. Everyone will win w this trade. Up to the players now.
freeland1787
The Mariners would still need to cover RF for Canzone when a lefty starts on the mound in the interim. Rojas gives them an immediate plug and play option at 2B after getting squeezed out at 3B by Emmanuel Rivera. Bliss is a guy who could become a very good 2B if the bat plays, his defense is that good.
drfelix
Now can we FINALLY DFA Wong…Jesus
Thank_God_Im_Not_Tim_Dierkes
Anybody who gets his 1st career homerun on a Strider fastball up and inside at 96 mph, probably will be a solid player.
Degaz
More than solid. Mariners made out like bandits. I still don’t get it…
Ejemp2006
DBacks just spent some great prospect capital on a decent closer. I don’t know why they didn’t get something more top shelf for that payout. Like Hader or a package of ERod and Lorenzen.
Motor City Beach Bum
I’ve been reading up on Arizonas prospects hoping the Tigers might ship one of their pitchers there. Canzone and Bliss were two I liked the looks of. Nice pickup and Rojas is a good add too.
ddj05
I keep telling people Detroit will be next years Reds. I dont get trading Erod, unless you force Baez into the package too. But still. Detroit is up and coming imo.
Motor City Beach Bum
He likes Detroit do they still might rework his deal and keep him. Guess we’ll know in less than 24 hrs!
freeland1787
E-Rod is probably opting out of his contract this off-season, which is why they’ve put him on the market. It isn’t that absurd to think he could earn more than $49M on the free agent market.
Motor City Beach Bum
With his stats he’d be nuts not to opt out for more money. Only way the Tigers keep him is to throw more cash his way or he gets hurt and opts in.
Degaz
Solid reliever buy GEEZUS that’s a haul for a reliever…..that would be a decent haul for Hader.
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
Sewald has been one of the best relievers since 2021 and is having yet another incredible season. Isn’t a free agent until after 2024. DBacks have a solid lineup and great system. Makes sense for them to push some chips in and make a run.
sadmarinersfan
Thank goodness he sucked so bad he is a liability
wayneroo
Someone hasn’t been paying attention..
Selah Rick 2
You said what?
Louholtz22
Hader to SD, D. Williams steps in. Sewald to AZ, Munoz steps in.
rdiddy75
What about Brash?
vtadave
How did he suck so bad? Was it the 35.5% K% or the 2.93 ERA?
Louholtz22
Sewald was excellent but Seattle has a closer, Munoz. Gambling the prospects pan out. In the Brewers case, they traded Ruiz, who they got from SD to Oakland for William Contreras. I’ll take that all day long.
mkeving
Sewald has been the M’s closer, he has 21 saves this year compared to 2 for Munoz. Munoz is solid but Sewald’s a better high leverage reliever.
Primitive Screwhead
True, but Munoz will grow into the role. I have no trouble seeing him as a lights-out closer for years.
Thank_God_Im_Not_Tim_Dierkes
Down vote. You are rationalizing Servais’ poor bullpen usage with results. Choosing Sewald over Brash or Munoz is poor process and good results most of the time. Sewald is 33 years d and is a soft-tossing flyball pitcher. Those are not the guys tou want to depend on long-term. I know Sewald has hit 94-96 sometimes, but he’s usually 92-93. The best closers induce lots of groundballs, Rivera, Hoffman, Eckersley, etc.
Selah Rick 2
Munoz was injured most of the 1st half.
Selah Rick 2
It’s worked for 3 seasons.
Thank_God_Im_Not_Tim_Dierkes
Did you see the playoffs last year? When you say works are you considering how many games he coughed up? Bregman owns him. He was one of seven pitchers with multiple saves for the Mariners and in 2021 the saves leader was Steckenrider, had Graveman not been traded, he would’ve had the most saves for the Mariners in 2021 as well. The Mariners also had seven pitchers with multiple saves in 2021, so two years in a row they had no defined closer. This year he was the only guy doing it really.
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
I’ve seen some garbage takes but holy shiiii
Fred Park
This should be interesting.
It will tell us more about Dipoto&co’s thinking.
Thank_God_Im_Not_Tim_Dierkes
Guessing this makes it possible to trade France.
solaris602
Does anyone know with certainty what happened to Ty France this year? It looked like the sky was the limit, but now he’s suddenly wallowing in mediocrity.
dbdmack
He hasn’t been the same since his last injury. He doesn’t drive the ball.
samtb13
France looked like he had put on weight coming into this season and remember how he delt with injury 2nd half last year. I think he needs to work on discipline both at the plate and the dinner plate. Get back to going OPO and make the defense get you out.
Fred Park
Yes. Also makes it all look like more of a next-season approach, too.
Not to say this season is totally lost, just that there is no big push as of right now.
We need bats and these guys are nothing special at hitting so far.
Things could change. Sometimes a change of scenery helps a guy starting hitting. I will be watching Rojas and Canzone to see if they get into a game right away.
lesterdnightfly
“Guessing this makes it possible to trade France.”
If you trade France, you have to throw in Napoleon “Nap” LaJoie and Danny Napoleon.
drfelix
Yep it allows Seattle to trade Teo and France, and DFA Wing and Pollock
Rexhudler86
Who’s wing, and pollock was traded
BabyBoyBlueDiamond
The thinking is “we have no minor league depth and way too cheap of owners… so this might be one of our only chances to find a needle in the haystack and give us a chance next year”.
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
That the bullpen is strong but the position player side has had at least 2 huge gaping holes for years, while working under a cheapskate ownership? Pretty easy to see what they’re thinking.
Milwaukee-2208
Civale and him are super underrated but excellent moves
JackStrawb
Ah, Paul Sewald. Another one the Mets FO crapped the bed on.
desertdawg
Word is that the DBacks gave up Rojas, Canzone and Bliss according to Phoenix sports radio
dythomp1995
It also says it in the article you’re commenting on.
iverbure
Someone’s new here. At the time of his comment the entire trade wasn’t out yet.
sacrifice
Nice haul for Seattle
Rickover50
Utility guy and number 19&29?
Braves_saints_celts
Shows that the d-backs farm is loaded, have you not seen their minor league stats? They are killing it. I know that doesn’t mean they’ll be good major league ball players, but it shows they have a chance, and that’s all you can ask for. Good trade on both parts. Sewald is a pending free agent, did you think he’d bring in a budding superstar? Yeah that’s not happening.
Green Mamba
Sewald isnt a FA till after next season.
Braves_saints_celts
My bad I thought he was a pending free agent. He’s controlled through 2024, still though this is a good haul
Rickover50
loaded? They are ranked 20 th. Let’s be real
l9ydodger
Ha, talk about someone getting their panties in a bunch. Lighten up Francis!
sidewinder11
Bliss has been on fire this year. The rankings are still based on preseason projections and he would have shot up into the top 10 for them once the list is updated
freeland1787
Bliss isn’t a Top 10 prospect IMO, but he’s much closer to 10 than 29.
freeland1787
MLB List is severely underrating Canzone and Bliss. Canzone is a LF/DH type who’s best utilized in a platoon situation. Could hit as many 20 HR in about 400-450 PA, consistently makes hard contact. Bliss has taken a big step forward with the bat in Double-A and put up video game numbers, even accounting for the fact his home park is a band box. Rojas was a guy who more or less got squeezed out of playing time, his value is lower as a utility infielder who can’t play short and not a lot of power upside in the bat. However he’s a guy who hustles, catches pitchers napping on the bases, very likeable guy in the clubhouse.
Degaz
#11 and #12 per midseason SI list. Most lists aren’t updated.
lloyd_christmas
can anyone tell me anything good about the three in the return? All I see and smell is calzone
Milwaukee-2208
I hear all 3 are an absolute hoot at any gathering and always bring potato salad
Rickover50
19@29 and a utility vet
seamaholic 2
Don’t rely on public rankings. They are better than that. Also AZ has a very deep system. Canzone is a prize. He may be the best hitter in the PCL this year. He’ll help Seattle, more or less right away. Bliss is a teeny tiny 2B with lightning speed who is also tearing up AAA. It’s unusual to get three major league ready dudes who can all hit for one relief pitcher. I’d say Seattle did very well.
Pete'sView
lloyd_christmas — Check Baseball Reference. This was a good haul for Seattle.
Rickover50
He was a rental reliever. Not a great haul
Green Mamba
Sewald isnt a rental. He isnt a FA till after next season
Rickover50
Arb eligible . Explains it even more as he could command something stupid
NineChampionships
Rojas put up 3.2 bWAR last year but has slumped this year.
Canzone is rdy to play 1B.
Bliss is a former 2R pick having a nice breakout year at AAA.
Kinda hard to hate the upside they landed here.
Rickover50
Then Arizona must have the best farm system if neither was top 18
NineChampionships
Lol @ MLB pipeline ratings. The folks behind those are decent but not good enough to work for an MLB scouting dept. I stopped taking those seriously when they had Matt Olson ranked 18 in a weak A’s farm system.
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
Farm rankings don’t mean anything. Hell, even MLB scouts get it wrong a lot. Just gotta play the games and see who wows you as they make their way up the levels.
Green Mamba
2 of the following perhaps?
Blaze Alexander
Deyvison De Los Santos
Jordan Lawlar
Jm207* 2
Hah! No
Rickover50
Or none ….
mdbaseball05
Why would the Mariners make this trade… this is insanely dumb.
There must be something else coming immediately after…
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
They’re in 4th place for the division and they have to pass like 3 or 4 other teams just to squeak into WC3. They’ve got gaping holes in 2B and OF/DH. Sewald pitching a lights out inning every other game isn’t going to get them there when the lineup can barely scrape runs together at an average rate. Rojas plugs 2B for now, and then Canzone/Bliss have a chance to develop as potential regular players for 2024.
mdbaseball05
That division is still very winnable, and the Mariners have been the hottest team in baseball the last two months and have already made up like 4.5 games on the Rangers since the break. Texas has dropped 7 of their last 10 and the Mariners have made up 4.5 games on them since the break. Their solution to their pitching injuries was also to get what are essentially two #4 pitchers in the Scherzer of today and Montgomery, and their rotation is still worse after the moves than the Mariners is now. The Mariners also have 10 games remaining against the Rangers and Astros.
The Angels have a rough stretch here too after getting some false confidence by beating the Pirates and Tigers and a beat up Yankees team. Now, they dropped 2 of 3 to Toronto and go into what could be a rough August schedule featuring the Braves, Mariners, Giants, Astros, Rangers, Rays, Reds, Mets, and Phillies.
Mariners have:
3 against Boston
4 against the Angels
2 against the Padres
3 against the Orioles
3 against the Astros
7 against the Royals
3 against the White Sox
3 against the Athletics
My point is more that this move was not necessary… not now. Rojas is a 29 year old with back issues that has been worth -0.4 WAR this year, so I guess that’s an upgrade from Wong’s -1.0 WAR. Awesome. The others are prospects that are interesting, but probably don’t help this year. Sewald could have just as easily been dealt this next off-season, or paired with someone like Gilbert for a bigger return of better prospects. He is controlled through 2024.
And with the Wild Card standings… you’re right, 4 teams are ahead of them for the 3rd spot, but it’s not nearly as bad as you make it seem. Toronto holds the 3rd spot for the time being, but just lost Bichette. Boston is 2.5 games behind Toronto, and then the next 3 teams behind them are separated by 1 game.
Look even further into it, and it seems better. Toronto is in a series versus the division leader Baltimore and lost last night. The Mariners are playing Boston right now and beat them last night, gaining a game on them. The Angels are in Atlanta playing the Braves and could easily drop a few games in that series, especially having to face Strider tonight, and the Yankees are playing the Rays right now and lost last night. If the Mariners keep up their hot play and the Rays, Braves, and Orioles keep their winning ways, the Mariners could find themselves a game back for the 3rd WC spot by the weekend.
hiflew
Seems like a light package. A big league bench player and the #19 and #29 prospects for Arizona. Seems more quantity than quality to me.
Motor City Beach Bum
Check their minor league stats this year. Pretty good from where I sit. I like the looks of both Bliss and Canzone.
hiflew
Minor league stats are about as useful as a hammer made out of glass. Sure it is pretty to look at, but if you try to use it for anything the whole thing explodes.
dumper
This is pathetic. I am done with Dipoto. I hate everything. Somebody please make me feel better about this.
Braves_saints_celts
I don’t see why people don’t like this return for the M’s bliss is having a great year in the minors, so is canzone, and he’s already had taste of the majors this year. Rojas is serviceable. For a pending free agent in sewald, the M’s I think did great, and this also definitely helps out the d-backs. Great trade on both parts.
mdbaseball05
Sewald is controlled through 2024
Braves_saints_celts
My bad I thought he was a pending free agent. Still a good haul though.
dumper
Sewald is not a pending free agent, he has another year of control. But after looking at the stats of these players, i’m more ok with it.
Braves_saints_celts
Yeah I realized that, my bad.
Green Mamba
Really? You have Civale going for a top 50 prospect, and we get this crap, when Sewald is better? Seriously, wtf?
HatlessPete
Civale is a sp with an additional year of control. Nobody is giving up a top 50 prospect for a good but not elite reliever with one more arb year after current season.
Gwynning
dumps- although it’s giving off strong Graveman 2.0 feels here, take solace in the returns and the fact that Munoz is ready as ever!
M.C.Homer
Dumper, Well, if you are a Mariners fan…
He crippled the Angels then and started a domino effect still looming today.
Hope that makes you feel better.
Can he move to Houston?
That would make everyone feel better
zack novotny
As a Dbacks fan I love this but wish it was sooner. Rojas wasn’t doing anything, and Bliss would never get playing time so good thing they used his value, same thing goes for Canzone as well. Bliss and Canzone will both be a great addition to Seattle. I think this is an A+ for both teams.
Rickover50
If they ever make it
marinerfan
Very bummed. Not a happy camper.
Joshy
Kinda hoping we could get Walston from this but return doesn’t seem too bad
lesterdnightfly
Yeah, but Walston’s busy with My Favorite Martian.
Joshy
Thats Ray Walston. Twice as funny, but half as sexy.
Cras951
Since Rojas is gone, I can see DBacks going for Candelario
freeland1787
I don’t think Arizona will be targeting any bats at the deadline. Third base isn’t necessarily a big need position, although Emmanuel Rivera has never been asked to play everyday in his career.
Cave
Canzone was great watching him come up through the minors, I think this is a great pickup by the Mariners.
Dbacks44
as a diehard dbacks fan we gave up to much. Canzone could have been for a starter. Rojas and bliss I’m fine with..Love Paul but Seattle and Arizona are different parks. Not sure I love this
SnakeWit
Remember Sewald isn’t an Ufa till 2025.
Dbacks44
I love Paul. have him on my fantsay team. but arizona like chafin seem to have problems pitching in arizona. just feel.we didn’t need to include 3 guys. canzone can play.
Goodog
This bull. When are the mariners ever going try and go for it. We could have him for another year. Now we have prospects who will literally do nothing for us probably for their entire career. I think it’s time to fire jerry, he’s only good for building a team farm system. He’s never had a team that goes for it. He’s always low risk think about the future never the present. God I’m soooo mad.
Pete'sView
Relievers are up and down. Sewald could be the 2018 0r 2020 version. Great haul for Seattle.
R.D.
Mariners just got a haul, damn
Larry Bernandez 1324IM
Hoping we move Jerry Dipoto before too long.
King of Cards
I guess it’s fair. I think the Mariners shouldn’t be selling but I think the trade is fair. Diamondbacks had extra outfielders Seattle needed one so it makes sense. If Canzone is more of a 1b that’s still a need long term for Seattle.
mdbaseball05
I agree Cards, not really a fan of this trade overall. Sewald fit well for the team next year as well, and all of these guys seem like the same, repeated crap that happened when we got Frazier and Wong… the “let’s buy low and hope they turn it around instead of actually finding a legit long-term solution”
We got a bench guy in Rojas who has had negative value this year and a couple of prospects that weren’t even close to the top of their org. Not a fan at the moment. We’ll see what else he does now.
King of Cards
I believe Canzone can hit but his defense is questionable.
It does feel like the Mariners are filling their holes with cheap question marks instead of legit players.
I guess you still got all that pitching so thats good. But as I have tried to tell Mariners fans having too much of one thing and not enough of another doesn’t add up. Cardinals have everyday players sitting on the bench daily and no pitching. Mariners will have too many pitchers and not enough position players.
Mariners I imagine aren’t done yet. I know the Cardinals aren’t done. We will see what happens when the dust settled I guess.
mdbaseball05
Honestly, I’m going to be more upset if they aren’t done. Now, if they turn around and go trade Gilbert for Gorman or something, I’m gonna be like “well, why the crap did we just acquire Rojas for Sewald then”.
Filling with questionable players hasn’t worked for us, ever. If Sewald was a free agent after this year, then fine. But he is a closer on a team making a push for the playoffs now.
King of Cards
I think the trade proposals we had with the Orioles both made a lot of sense. This to me is going cheap and patching things up with questionable talent.
I think it’s tough to hit where the Mariners play. You need a legit bat or 2 and Kjeratad is legit I know he is I am sure of it. And gosh the Orioles need pitching they haven’t done squat yet.
Yeah kinda meh but I don’t think the deal was unfair. And you can always go buy a closer in the offseason.
mdbaseball05
Yeah, I agree that our proposals with the Orioles make the most sense. And, it makes a ton of sense for both teams.
It is weird that the Orioles haven’t done anything, given their needs and leading the division. Should be an interesting next 24 hours here.
Blackouts are racist
The Cards are toast.
samtb13
Frazier and Wong were established players before coming to Seattle and have been unable to live up to expectations. I’d love to see Mariners give a youngster a shot at 2nd base and I believe Bliss could be a great asset to the team! He’s extremely fast with a ton of pop for his size. If he can carry on what he did at A, AA and AAA into big leagues he reminds me of young Altuve.
King of Cards
It sounds like that stadium is tough to hit in. Of course when I was talking about getting Gilbert very few people if anyone would mention it but that’s what it appears to me from the outside looking in. That stadium makes the pitchers look better and the offense look worse.
The Marlins stadium is like that. Those pitchers while good are not as good as people think they are. Ans that offense while meh is not as meh as people think it is. Arrraez is a great fit for them because he doesn’t hit homers.
Pete'sView
To be fair, both Wong and Frazier clearly had warts prior to this season.
Ziskmania
It really is not a hard stadium to hit in… Did you see the Home Run Derby? The problem is it is next to the ocean and the marine air causes the ball to hang up. So if you want home runs you may struggle ,but line drive hitters like Edgar Martinez or left handed power hitters do very well. So the Mariners never sign left handed power hitters and never get RH line drive hitters. Go figure why they have never been to the WS.
King of Cards
Sounds like it’s a hard stadium to hit in……
squishy
That’s actually a really good return for Sewald.
desertdawg
Heard that Bliss ranks 29th and Canzone was 19th on D’backs prospect rankings list.
Edelapena08
TY France on the move? Rojas could take over at first…
Buzz Killington
Smart move.
letsplaytwo
Sell high on relief pitchers every time!
Echopark
Mariners trying to find a Chris Taylor that they gave away!
King of Cards
Mariners fans were telling me they didn’t need Brendan Donovan
Well now you got Rojas instead. Enjoy lol.
mdbaseball05
In all fairness, that was in return of Gilbert. Not the same by any means.
King of Cards
Nootbaar
Donovan
For
Gilbert
Kelenic
That was my proposal. Maybe I added Sewald but you could have talked me out of that.
Nootbaar has been on fire lately. He does everything well he looks like a 4 or 5 win player long term and he’s got 4 more years of team control after this one.
mdbaseball05
I already broke down that one and how it makes no sense though for the Mariners in the other thread. As the Mariners, I would not even trade Kelenic straight up for Nootbaar, which makes the rest of it make even less sense.
If it’s the Cardinals, Gorman is the only one that interests me.
mdbaseball05
I’ll just post that part of it here as well for discussion. Here is what each of Kelenic and Nootbaar was doing at the same ages:
Age 21:
Nootbar: hitting a combined .264 between A+, A, and AA
Kelenic: hitting .320 at AAA Tacoma before being called up to the Majors where he hit .181 with 14 HR’s
Age 22:
Nootbar: 2020 season, didn’t play
Kelenic: hit .296 in AAA and .141 in the MLB
Age 23:
Nootbar: hit .308 in AAA before being called up and hitting .228 in the MLB with 14 HR’s
Kelenic: hitting .252 with 11 HR’s in MLB this year.
Nootbar then went on to hit .228 in his age 24 season before becoming what he is now at age 25. Kelenic is just now the same age Nootbar was when he made his debut in 2021.
For the sake of this argument… that is essentially making this a Donovan for Gilbert + deal, which is very lopsided in favor of the Cardinals.
Kelenic is a 2 WAR player now at age 23, makes 729k, and isn’t ARB eligible until 2026. Nootbaar is a 2.3 WAR player now at age 25, makes $1.7M, and is ARB eligible in 2025
King of Cards
Nootbaar is a really good player. Kelenic might be. If you wouldn’t trade Kelenic for Nootbaar you are crazy.
mdbaseball05
Never said Nootbaar wasn’t good, just that I’d prefer Kelenic over the next few years. Kelenic also has higher Hard Hit percentage and Exit Velo than Nootbaar and steals more bases.
Point is more that it’s close enough to where we don’t need Nootbaar in a trade, and giving up Kelenic to get him makes zero sense.
King of Cards
Well you got Canzone and Rojas now instead. We will see what else happens. Ready for more trades. Cardinals need some help for 2024 no more prospects.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
KingofCards is always trying to gyp us M’s fans. He thinks we’re a bunch of rubes up here in Seattle. Always trying to steal our pitching for pennies on the dollar !!!
King of Cards
Lol I live in Denver Seattle is similar from what I understand. Nootbaar and Donovan are good players I ran this trade by Cardinal fans none of them liked the deal.
BigRedMachine
No we did not need Brandan Donovan for Logan Gilbert. You’re correct.
King of Cards
Ok big teal machine
That wasn’t what I suggested. Maybe you should stop assuming thats what I said when it wasnt.
Kyle T
Well…i mean we are a reliver manufacturer….so i feel like this was a steal for seattle
SnakeWit
I’m absolutely stoked. Bliss was never going to crack our lineup and Rojas is completely lost. Canzone is a bummer I figured they were show casing him. We still need another bullpen arm and starter. DFA Davies he’s absolute rubbish! Go Snakes!
mlb1225
Seems like a good deal for Arizona.
Primitive Screwhead
The Mariners can Frankenstein awesome relief pitchers on command, so selling high on their rebuilds is The Right Thing To Do.
With Canzone, this smells like there’s a Ty France move to come.
leftykoufax
Nice pickup for the snakes for the stretch run.
BigRedMachine
Goodbye Kolten Wong? Rojas plays 2B and is a left handed bat……So is Wong…..
mdbaseball05
Rojas has still been a -0.4 player this year though. So we traded terrible for slightly less terrible? And gave up our closer to make that upgrade
muskie73
FWIW Josh Rojas and Kolten Wong both played collegiately at the University of Hawaii,
BigRedMachine
Wong not in the M’s line-up tonight against a RHP. I think he is gone.
samtb13
Sewald is streaky and is very good when he’s hot but also very bad when he’s not. He is friendly and talkative for media but as a Mariners fan I’d rather give Munoz more opportunity anyway and was fully aware that Sewald would be moved today or tomorrow. As for the return I think it’s obvious M’s are fishing for a stopgap at 2nd base. Ryan Bliss has moved up the minor league ranks quickly and has surprising power in a small frame. I don’t know much about the other 2 players so I think it’s a good even trade both ways …maybe favoring the Mariners depending on how these guys play in years to come.
touch_the_floor
Ugh.
This is the sequel of the Graveman trade a
That led to a thrashed club house. Same deal. Trade your closer for a good prospect right in the middle of a playoff push. Nothing demoralizing about that.
Mariners are talented but GMJD doesn’t get that this is not fantasy baseball. They won last year bc they were galvanized and had great team chemistry. Sewald was part of that and those guys all fought for each other and we’re doing the same this year.
Now that’s busted up.
Smh.
This better be part of a bigger plan.
Tired of this.
Primitive Screwhead
Word is the clubhouse has been expecting Sewald to get moved, so I don’t think the situation is the same at all. Graveman was a complete surprise.
YourDreamGM
They are used to it now. Not a big deal. Trade closer next year or 2025. No biggie.
I like trading expiring players and replacing them with as good or close enough and seeing what happens. Trade Teo next.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Might be good for both sides
BigRedMachine
Agree with you TTF, Team Chemistry is so important and if you break it up a bit ,you had better be making the team a lot better, not sure that this move does that.
Oddball Hererra
Longoria on the IL and Rojas gone, wonder if we have a Lawlar callup imminent
scottaz
Oddball
Lawler isn’t ready yet, if anyone gets the call it will be Blaze Alexander.
freeland1787
I don’t see Lawlar getting called up before the final week of August, if at all this season.
Mekias0
Mariners seem to like going after low-end prospects having good years in the upper minors. They did well on Haniger & France with this strategy. Canzone & Bliss both have had amazing years in the minors. Hopefully they figured some things out. Don’t think much of Rojas (reminds me a bit of Abraham Toro). He’s already becoming expensive and may never be more than a bench player again. I’ll miss Sewald but if any of these guys pan out, the trade will be worth it.
Reynaldo
This has Abraham Toro vibes all over again
good vibes only
I think trading Sewald is probably the right move. Not sure this is the return I’d be looking for but it’s interesting at least. More moves coming I’m sure.
scottaz
This is exactly the kind of trade I predicted 3 weeks ago, a quantity of MLB or near MLB position players in exchange for a Closer. I actually named all 3 of these players among the group of players I predicted the Dbacks would trade. I think it’s a smart trade. I think it’s aggressive without being overly aggressive or foolhardy. Just what I thought Hazen would do.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Wow! What a bug deal!
desertdawg
I see the D’backs looking for another bullpen piece and a contract controlled starter. Could it be maybe Pittsburgh they have a eye on..
YourDreamGM
Are they willing to trade elite prospects? I don’t think any team is. That’s a SD MIN move. Probably not happening this year.
DFForReal12
Canzone and Bliss – good OBP guys (this season) – so this would seem to fit the Jerry DiPoto design. Rojas seems like a “change of scenery” guy that HOPEFULLY flourishes in Seattle – fingers crossed.
And honestly – this is probably the peak of Sewald’s value. There are a lot of teams who feel they’re in the mix and arms seem to be in high demand. I don’t think we get 2 of the 3 of these players in the offseason or next season.
Overall feelings – I like the move. I’m a Seattle fan and I think you have to strike when the time is right. Last season was an amazing feeling, but I feel it was safe to feel there would be a little bit of regression this season… load the coffers/depth for next season.
That is all…. carry on.
touch_the_floor
There are a lot of teams in the mix and mariners are/were one of them.
If GMJD is thinking about maximum value now………I mean……what is wrong with this year?
Sewald was tradable after season
their BP is good but now everyone shifts up an inning. Saves can get blown in the 6th and 7th innings.
DFForReal12
They MAY have been in contention,.. 4 back in the division/4.5 back in the WC… you’re right. However, our pitching staff will not/can not maintain this workload with Woo and Miller most likely with an innings limit, Ray out, Flexen dealt, and Marco hurt. Kirby threw 130 innings last year and currently sits at 123 innings… I don’t feel Castillo AND Gilbert can shoulder the load. And honestly, I don’t want them to. I like this team… I like it a lot. This season is super unfortunate but hats off the Texas, and Houston is Houston…. If we can load up on young, controllable talent for next season and years to come, I feel that’s the best approach. I really would prefer to not deal away some valuable, young pieces for rentals in “hopes” to make it happen. Just one man’s opinion… I know it doesn’t make it right. Just enjoying the discussion.
YourDreamGM
If their playoff hopes are done it isn’t because of this move. Trade Teo as well. Fill any holes cheaply and see what happens. Not in position to go all in but still close enough to get lucky.
sufferforsnakes
Rojas has been a dump this season. Bye.
Bliss broke out big in AA, not quite yet in AAA. But if the kid gets on base, he’s ready to steal a base…..or two.
Canzone is the loss here. Solid player. I’ll miss the Buckeye, but we have plenty of outfield depth.
scottaz
Next 24 hours, if any team needs a SS or a C in exchange for cash, a PTBNL, a low minors flyer or a bag of peanuts, the Dbacks will offer Nick Ahmed and Carson Kelly.
34Hernandez34
Bummed that we lost Sewald. Ya’ll can say what you want about him. He got the job done for us the last 3 years. He has been impressive and to be honest. I am not sure what the Mets were doing with him. That said, I am glad he got a second shot at becoming a pitcher. What a great story for him and I hope he does well for Arizona. I will be watching AZ games to see how his success continues.
I am glad that it was Sewald though and not Logan Gilbert. I am hoping we do not trade anything more. I am good with this one trade and we can ride out the rest of the year. Bitter sweet day for Mariners fans. Best of luck Dbacks! Give the Dodgers hell!
YourDreamGM
Trade Teo. Kid in this trade can take place.
scottaz
Hazen just checked off trade priority #1
Next, trade priority #2 is a starting pitcher. Same as this trade for Sewald, it will be a quantity of MLB or near ready MLB talent in exchange for a #3 type starter with a bit more than rental time available. Dbacks have a number of players available including some on the current active roster (Gurriel, Rivera Carson Kelly, Ahmed); and Prospects as high as #9 Cecconi SP, #14 Dominic Fletcher CF/OF; and AAA players former ROY Kyle Lewis OF/DH, former 1st Round Draft Pick Pavin Smith OF/1b, and several others.
Dbacks will NOT trade Lawler, Druw Jones, Brandon Pfaadt, Christian Robinson or any other of their Top 10 Prospects. Especially not for a Rental.
YourDreamGM
Looks like a back end rental then.
miltpappas
Mariners fans should be thrilled with this deal.
34Hernandez34
Not really, we dont feel we got better. Maybe we are wrong but it doesnt feel like we made a move that helps us now or for the future. Feels more like meh than, HELL YEAH! I think for most Mariners fans are just glad we didnt trade Logan Gilbert. Sorry to see Sewald go but I do not think we did well in this trade. I feel like AZ got the better part of the deal. Unless, I am missing something.
Zissou
It’s a wash. Mariners boosted a bit on offense fronts, while having a solid pen to rely on still.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I am actually totally fine with this trade. Sewald always made me a little queasy when he entered a close game because he has to be so fine. He doesn’t throw hard enough for a closer. He misses by an inch and it’s gone. Also at 34 and maxing out at 93/94 mph , he can turn into a pumpkin at any time. We traded him at his highest point, and at the right time. Could have we garnered better players from another team? Possibly, but I trust Jerry that he got the best deal available at this time. I think you should feel pretty good about this trade as an M’s fan.
YourDreamGM
D for SEA. Not much better than teams got for a rental. Went safety over upside. They got their mlb 2b they will try to get back to average or above. A prospect 2b that haa a ceiling of average or above. MLB ready outfielder average or above. Helps them now this year and even more next but not really move the needle players.
A plus to infinity for ARZ. Traded spare pieces. Lil scraps they don’t need. Other teams parted with more for rentals. I hate parting with prospects but even I wouldn’t mind doing this. Sent away a awful performing utility player. 2b only prospect. Probably future utility without enough arm. Bat with some pop but probably not enough for lack of defense.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Yeah but Sewald is 34 years old with a fastball that maxes out at 92-94. He has to really be on to hit his spots or else it’s goodbye baseball. Don’t you want a closer who relies more on gas and power instead of crafty precision? Because when Sewald is not exactly precise with his command it’s home run city. Clear win for the Mariners selling high on a reclamation project.
YourDreamGM
I want one that gets the job done. Don’t care how they do it.
Kassiedog
I’m glad you’re not the Mariner’s GM.
YourDreamGM
Who are you?
D Backs GM
The anatomy of a trade. Seward upgrades dbacks bullpen immediately. Rojas was in the trade to partially offset the money the rest of the year. Better for Seattle to have Rojas than sending cash to dbacks as part of deal. He may rebound and be the player he was. Bliss is a breakout this year and will be a very good player but dbacks have 5 other higher ranked prospects in our system. Canzone same but dbacks have 4 higher ranked outfielder prospects as well. All in all good for both sides. Don’t be surprised if Canzone is a really good player this year
brooklyn62
I appreciate the astuteness of your evaluation. Good trade for both teams- Snakes needed a lock down reliever. M’s have not been blessed developing hitters. I’m not the biggest DiPoto fan, but I tip my cap to him on this one. He dealt a reliever at his height to a team that needed him and got back not 1,not 2 but 3 players that will be able to contribute in the very near future. Good trick to pull off at the trade deadline.
holecamels35
Any relation to an Alexa Bliss??
SupremeZeus
Solid 2024 move for the snakes. Canzone might blossom, value for value. Diamondbacks had a great first half. I expect them to continue to sputter and finish 4th in the NL West. Hazen & Kendrick must make some major trades and drop some serious FA cash this offseason to roster a World Series contender in 2024 & 2025. The Gallen window is 2 years. The time for prospect talk and looking to the future ends in a few months.
YourDreamGM
Get a starter. Doesn’t have to be costly. Just someone who gives them a chance. If they do that they have a shot in 2023.
34Hernandez34
I still dont see how this is better for the Mariners. But if you guys didnt feel great about those guys to begin with and felt that you had more in your prospect pool. Not sure if this makes me feel better about the trade. Cause I certainly do not feel like this is a win/win. That said, time will tell, i guess.
kdevry
Feels like the Graveman trade all over again. Hopefully Rojas>Toro
YourDreamGM
Much better than Graveman trade. Rojas is 3rd piece.
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
I love the trade deadline, even if it isn’t my favorite team making the moves.
StrandedM'sFanInL.A.
Thus is actually a steal for Seattle…
First you get Cazone who just proved he can hit MLB pitching by going 2-4,2-4,0-4 against us without a strikeout…thank god
Secondly, Bliss was a 2nd rd. Pick who’s had great success in AA and is blocked thank goodness so we could pry him away…
Third but not least Rojas is a MLB player. Look at his numbers prior to this year… he’s still got a .277 split which we can use immediately…
Let’s be honest, Sewald was never a closer. He’s only been used in that situation because we lack a power arm closer. He’s never good in tie games only with leads and only has 2 pitches. He’s done a great job for us but next year we need a legit CLOSER… I wish him well but he’s really a setup guy we used to close games. I’m actually suprised by the return we got for a setup guy and excited to see Bliss and Cazone Lefty Bat in the lineup that has lefty Pop missing…
GO M’s… fill up the upper tiers of our farm system because one bat isn’t going make a difference in a 162 game season… we need toncontinue to add to our farm system because we aren’t catching a healthy Houton, upgraded Texas, or adding Anaheim
Stevil
I don’t have time to read through all these comments tonight, but I wrote about Canzone in early June, suggesting Seattle should have some interest. I just didn’t expect Sewald to be the cost.
Rojas has been injured half the season, but I would guess that he’s seen as a potential platoon partner for second or third moving forward, or as a utility player if they can find a regular.
Canzone is probably the bigger piece for Seattle. He’s a disciplined hitter who put up monster numbers in AAA, which of course has to translate to MLB success.
I like both players. I just don’t like that Sewald was the cost. Seattle must be really high on Canzone, because Seattle’s bullpen takes a significant hit here, and their ability to churn out relievers makes this make some sense.
But Sewald was a huge part of Seattle’s success. I hate that they place more value on possibility than the proven.
This move also suggests Teo is as good as gone, but that’s been anticipated.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Seawald has been a bonified setup man who came here as a reclamation project; two-pitch 34 year old who maxes out at 93/94. You sell high on guys like this. Our pitching development program finds guys like him every season. Dipoto did a good job. And you forgot to mention Bligh the 2nd base prospect. So him, Canzone, and Rojas is a decent haul. Be happy for once.
brooklyn62
Amen brother! M’s fans pisss and moan way too much, especially over trades.
Stevil
He’s 33, and he’s the most dependable/capable closer Seattle had.
Seattle has found numerous relievers and I noted their ability to find arms, but high-leverage arms that can close is far more unique.
Ryan Bliss, the name you misspelled, just arrived at AAA. He’s interesting, but not MLB ready.
How about I say whatever I feel like saying and you ignore me, or give it some though and quit trying to tell fans how they should be fans?
One more BS comment from you and I will mute you.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Fair enough , sorry my bad for the misspelling. Not trying to be difficult, you’re OK in my book Stevil. Thnx for not muting me earlier.
Stevil
I don’t think you realize that I actually like the return. I do think they sold high.
I just hate that it was Sewald. Two things can be true at once.
brooklyn62
I apologize to you Stevil.Thought your previous comment was directed at me.
nstale
Bliss is going to be the jewel of this deal. I watched him play a few times with Amarillo this year.. kid is going to be a star