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The Opener: Gray, Maeda, Twins, FA Market

By Nick Deeds | November 27, 2023 at 9:39am CDT

After a busy morning on the hot stove, here are three things we’ll be keeping an eye on around the baseball world throughout the day today:

1. Gray, Maeda finalizing deals:

It was reported earlier this morning that the Cardinals are finalizing a deal with veteran right-hander Sonny Gray worth a reported $75MM over three years. That leaves Gray poised to become the second free agent who placed in the top 10 of MLBTR’s Top 50 free agents list to sign this offseason following righty Aaron Nola, who re-upped with the Phillies earlier in the month. Gray isn’t the only free agent starter in the process of finalizing a deal, however. Per reports last night, the Tigers inking veteran right-hander Kenta Maeda to a two-year deal worth $24MM. That contract is pending a physical, which is expected to happen later today. Both Gray and Maeda will require 40-man roster spots upon their deals with St. Louis and Detroit becoming official, though both clubs have spots available meaning no corresponding transaction will be necessary to finalize either pact.

2. How will the Twins address their rotation?

Both Gray and Maeda pitched for the Twins in 2023. Maeda provided the club with 104 1/3 innings of back-of-the-rotation production following his return from Tommy John surgery this year, posting a 4.23 ERA and 4.02 FIP over 21 appearances (20 starts). Gray, meanwhile, had a career year with Minnesota and posted a 2.79 ERA across 32 starts. The return of right-hander Chris Paddack to the rotation in 2024 should help alleviate the losses, though 25-year-old youngster Louie Varland, who posted a 4.63 ERA and 5.02 FIP in 68 major league innings this year, likely represents the club’s internal fifth starter.

Given that, an external addition who can join Pablo Lopez, Joe Ryan, Bailey Ober, and Paddack in the rotation could make plenty of sense. While the club is expected to reduce payroll this offseason, the club’s interest in a reunion with Maeda prior to the righty signing in Detroit suggests Minnesota can afford to add a mid-tier free agent arm this offseason. There’s plenty such starters available, with Michael Wacha, Nick Martinez, and Mike Clevinger among the names expected to fall in a similar tier to Maeda this winter.

3. When will the hitting, relief markets start heating up?

As the hot stove has begun to heat up, the focus has largely been on starting pitching. Maeda and Gray join Nola, Kyle Gibson, and Lance Lynn as free agent rotation arms who have signed big league deals this month. Meanwhile, right-hander Reynaldo Lopez inked a three-year deal with an Atlanta club who intends to stretch the reliever out for a rotation audition of his own come Spring Training.

All of that buzz on the rotation market stands in sharp contrast to the position player and relief markets, which have been relatively quiet in the offseason’s first month. Joe Jimenez’s three-year deal with the Braves on the first day of free agency still represents the most significant relief contract of the offseason, while infielder Paul DeJong’s one-year agreement with the White Sox represents the lone positional signing of significance of the winter to this point.

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  1. LambchoP

    2 years ago

    Bummer, I was hoping the Twins could have brought back one of Grey or Maeda. I’d be fine with them signing Wacha or Stroman. Maybe they can trade for a decent #2 type pitcher. I’m worried about our rotation, Say Lopez goes down, we’re gonna rely on Ryan Paddock and Varland to get us back to the playoffs?

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    • slidepiece

      2 years ago

      Easy division. Twins will make a move or two and will easily win the division, but not a 1st round bye.

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      • CO Guardening

        2 years ago

        Well the Guardians look unlikely to add a RH power bat which they sorely need. But given the state of the division, it’s definitely the Twins to lose. My bet is they will.

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      • martras

        2 years ago

        “Easy division” and “Twins to lose!” are pretty common comments.

        Well, the Twins have watched 11 WAR walk off the 2023 team into free agency and they won the weak division by 9 games over the Tigers. The 11 WAR included 2 of the Twins’ 3 best starting pitchers. Maeda is “back of the rotation” according to the author, despite having a 3.36 ERA after returning from the IL. The Twins were 38-38 when Maeda returned, 49-37 after and the Twins were 10-6 in games Maeda started.

        The Tigers added Maeda to offset Rodriquez, they have lots of free money to spend and don’t need to do too much to be an over .500 team.

        While the Twins might be the favorites, they weren’t a great team, they lost a ton of production in free agency, they’re cutting payroll (if only maybe $20MM) so I don’t see the need for their fans (I’m a season ticket holder) or other analysts to be arrogant about their position in 2024.

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  2. B1G City

    2 years ago

    Hard to put that much faith in Paddack after being out the last 1.5 seasons with his 2nd TJ surgery. The Twins are loaded with tradeable assets, I believe they’ll address their rotation that way. Gilbert (SEA), Keller (PIT), or Burnes (MIL), in that order would be my preference.

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    • CO Guardening

      2 years ago

      Paddock never looked particularly good before TJ. 5th starter at best.

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      • ohyeadam

        2 years ago

        He looked good in the bullpen late last year. If they the FA route I like clevinger

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      • Notabandwagonfanlikemost

        2 years ago

        Lol you know nothing, I can guarantee you won’t be saying that next year at this time.

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        • gbs42

          2 years ago

          Notabandwagon,

          Maybe you could share your knowledge instead of just telling someone “you know nothing.”

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    • martras

      2 years ago

      I agree. Paddack’s performance before the TJ was spotty at best. I wouldn’t want to count on him to be better than a #4 type of guy. The Twins need to add 2 starters right now, and it doesn’t seem like they have much urgency.

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  3. spudchukar

    2 years ago

    Still believe the Red Birds will be in on Yamamoto.
    6-man rotation!

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  4. jdgoat

    2 years ago

    Seems like it’s almost guaranteed that the Twins bring in one of those mid tier guys you listed. They’d be fine replacements if not improvements over Maeda.

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    • LordD99

      2 years ago

      Replacing Gray’s production is the challenge.

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  5. twins33

    2 years ago

    The FA pitching market is unappealing if you go below anyone who is expected to make around 20M per or more.

    I think, and probably even hope, they go the trade route again. Find another Gray or Lopez. It sucks to keep trading away assets, but since they haven’t snagged or outright don’t want to go after the bigger FA SP fish it seems like the only way to go.

    I don’t want anymore Archer, Bundy, Happ, Bailey etc types. They always end up being terrible which is never a surprising result.

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    • martras

      2 years ago

      The Twins need 2 starters and they lost their ace. The most sensical target to replace Gray in a trade would be Corbin Burnes. That’d probably cost the Twins something like Bailey Ober and Simeon Woods-Richardson. That’d leave the Twins needing to fill 2 pitching spots still, but at least they could look to fill those spots with lower caliber targets in free agency or additional trades.

      Honestly, the Twins are not in a good position to trade away prospects for a top of the line starter.

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  6. Finlander

    2 years ago

    Hard to believe that a division championship team with the 4th richest owner in MLB is brought to its knees by a regional broadcast company.

    I’ve been steamed ever since Jim Kaat was dumped by MN and then went on to have two 20 win seasons with rival White Sox.

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    • martras

      2 years ago

      …@Finlander – Given you’re still holding pent up anger for a trade from, literally 50 years ago, of a 34 year old pitcher in the middle of a rough campaign, who had 1 above average season in the previous 6 years, I’m going to go ahead and take your comment as maybe a little irrational.

      The Twins are expected to field a payroll around $135MM, which would be their 2nd highest payroll ever. Maybe time to let go of the rage…

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      • Finlander

        2 years ago

        Check your research. First, Kaat, after having probably the greatest September in pitching history in 1967, blew out his UCL in his last game that year. No TJS available then, so he battled through the healing process for years. Kaat was finally having another Cy Young caliber season going in ’72, but broke his hand sliding into 2B to break up a double play. He pitched a couple innings more, then finally had to come out due to the pain. He rehabbed but didn’t have feel for his pitches yet in ’73. He was NOT traded. He was put on waivers. His command finally came back, and he won 21 and 20 the following 2 years.

        My comment didn’t use the word “rage” either. I actually thought it was a little humorous to lump the spending habits of notoriously stingy Calvin Griffith with the billionaire banker Pohlad. It’s a bit of a mismatch.

        And finally, it was a comment about the effect of a TV broadcast deal. I can’t believe for a minute that there won’t be another broadcast deal installed to replace the loss of Bally Sports. I hope all of this is a game of playing possum by the Twins before they actually make some solid moves.

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        • stymeedone

          2 years ago

          There will be another broadcast deal, but it won’t be for as much. Paying the amount that put Bally bankrupt isn’t going to happen. Fewer subscribers means less revenue and lower payments.

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      • Finlander

        2 years ago

        And finally, I realize you didn’t make the connection between the word “steamed” and my “Finlander” moniker (sauna, for those unfamiliar with Finnish cleansing rituals).

        I hope there is a #1-2 type starter or two in the trade target sights to replace Gray and Maeda. It feels like Ryan has slipped below Ober now. We can’t get it done with Pablo Lopez and a bunch of 4-5s.

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  7. martras

    2 years ago

    The Twins’ ownership has been very averse to long term pitcher signings and that really limits their potential free agency targets. Gray and Maeda were probably the two of the 5 best options.

    Considering Lopez is not an ace caliber pitcher, the Twins really need a guy who could be that if they want to have a shot at advancing in the playoffs. Gray was probably the only guy in their free agency price range who might fit the bill of low years.

    Ohtani, Snell, Montgomery, and Yamamoto will all be way above the conservative front office and ownership’s targets for contract lengths.

    Maeda was one of the best short term options who would fill a middle rotation spot.

    Leaving the Twins with reclamation projects or at the very least, rebound candidates.
    Severino and Giolito are the best ace stuff candidates.

    The remaining middle rotation options are:
    Eduardo Rodriguez (pushing Twins’ years comfort), Marcus Stroman, Michael Wacha… maybe Lugo if you’re buying high.

    The front office’s seeming confidence in Paddack seems… highly optimistic.

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    • Steve(shs22)

      2 years ago

      Ask the Blue Jay’s and Astros about Pablo’s post season performance

      It was ace worthy
      Sure he may not be the typical #1 guy but he s pitched like a top 20 or 25 starter in the game since the arraez trade

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      • martras

        2 years ago

        Not sure why you’re arguing for and against Lopez as an ace at the same time, but I guess you can’t be wrong that way…

        Jack Morris 1991 playoffs. Everybody remembers that outstanding WS performance. 2 games, World Series MVP 1.17 ERA. Absolutely lights out. Clearly an ace caliber pitcher. Nobody remembers his 4.05 ERA in the 1991 league championship series or the fact he opened the series allowing 4 earned in 5.1 innings pitched or that the next year Morris got obliterated in the 1992 ALCS and WS with Toronto.

        Lopez is a good pitcher and he had a great season. Regardless of whether or not you consider him an ace, the front office has banked on Paddack. Paddack is their next line of defense in the rotation.

        In Paddack’s last 4 years, he’s pitched 194.2 innings with an ERA of 4.85 and an FIP of 3.91.

        Joe Ryan last 2 years 4..05 ERA and 4.07 FIP.

        Does Bailey Ober slot in as the #2?

        The Twins need a front of the rotation arm.

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  8. Enregistre

    2 years ago

    Good lord, Deeds is brutal. “There’s plenty such starters available” come on. Edit your work. That group of words is a disaster. Seriously, three articles he’s made this same grammatical mistake in the last few days.

    Then “meanwhile” can’t come in the middle of the sentence; it has to come at the start. How does he mess this up and then get it right later in the article?

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